The Juan MacLean (RFI)

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I've been listening to my Six Finger Satillite cds quite a bit and have been curious about John McLean's new group/project.

I haven't heard either of the The Juan McLean singles, are they any count? Don't buy much vinyl anymore, so I haven't picked these up.

Do they play live or is it a studio group?

earlnash, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 01:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Two (i think) of the tracks are on the DFA singles CD if you don't want vinyl. The new one's not on there but it's quite good. It's all very electro if you didn't know. Worst thing the DFA has put out, actually, but still very good

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Black Dice take the cake for worst outfit on DFA.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I rather like the Juan McLean singles. Can't figure out why they've gotten the smallest portion of DFA hype.

johnny fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

They seem the least spectacular to me.. Black Dice are very charming

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm very fond of "You Can't Have It Both Ways" and "Give Me Every Little Thing," not so fond of "By The Time I Get to Venus."

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link

you can't have it both ways is really great, i'm quite surprised by it, as ive been underwhelmed by much dfa stuff, this is the best track on the label i think

... (gareth), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Do they play live or is it just a production project between John McLean and the DFA?

earlnash, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

as far as i know the juan maclean have only played once in the u.s., at the show the dfa put on at the warsaw in brooklyn in april 2002. i think it was just juan with nancy whang (also in lcd soundsystem) adding synth/vox.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Cool, I was just curious and I couldn't find any info via google.

6FS was a really good live band, their drummer could play like a drummachine.

earlnash, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
mmm juan mclean is fuckn cool no he's ice-cold if your into electronic music alot of good electronic music comes out of america
but it doesnt seem to be very popular in america... why?
dunno about other dfa shit tho... i like it sometimes

olz, Monday, 3 November 2003 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link

More people should big up "My Time Is Running Out" - gorgeous!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link

douglas OTM.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 November 2003 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

He played a gig in Detroit three days ago in a shitty little dive bar on Michigan Avenue called LJ's. I couldn't be arsed to see it, it was probably good...

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...
give me every little thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 26 March 2004 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"i think Black Dice take the cake for worst outfit on DFA. "


duke california, Friday, 26 March 2004 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

the rapture are the worst thing on DFA

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 26 March 2004 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i gotta go with the "venus" track, or whatever it's called. that shit is trance. they'll never do worse than that

duke trance, Friday, 26 March 2004 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I had "You Can't Have it Both Ways" on repeat yesterday for nearly an hour. I don't dance, but it makes me want to.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 26 March 2004 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

that is one great song!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 26 March 2004 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

"I don't dance, but it makes me want to."

no offense but that's like a DFA commercial slogan of the future

duke future, Friday, 26 March 2004 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I still think more people should talk about "My Time Is Running Out".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 March 2004 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i will when i hear it! 'Give Me Every Little Thing' and 'You Can't Have It Both Ways' have been on frequent rotation a lot this year so far

stevem (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2004 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Give Me Every Little Thing but prefer By The Time I Get To Venus and You Can't Have It Both Ways. However I really hate Typing All Those Songs And Their Annoying Long Titles.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 26 March 2004 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Golf Raver 'The Pet Shop Boys Can Get T'Fuck An' All (Neon Ronan mix)'

stevem (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2004 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

his wmc show in miami was the best thing i saw that weekend. featuring theremin!

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 26 March 2004 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Floored me:

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:25 (five years ago) link

Haven't felt a groove like this since Happy House...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:35 (five years ago) link

So excellent, yes.

Roz, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:55 (five years ago) link


how's life, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 16:33 (five years ago) link

this is pretty glorious

owenf, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:03 (five years ago) link

but it's not happy house is it?

owenf, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:04 (five years ago) link

no, it's merely excellent

Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 11:22 (five years ago) link

Not sure if I'm really so into Nancy Whang's vocals these days...

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 12:21 (five years ago) link

Especially since there's been so much great vocal house and pop dance music this year.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 12:22 (five years ago) link

Yeah I'm not a fan of her voice at all, I actively dislike the Classixx song she appears on. She works well on Happy House because it's largely confined to soundbites that enhance the rest of the track ("you are so excellent", "launch meeee intooo spaaaaace") but most of her more song-based appearances don't really work for me.

That said, Tonight is probably my favourite Juan Mclean song, although she's heavily treated on that.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:58 (five years ago) link

I'm so into her voice voice. I could listen to an album of Nancy Whang. The Classixx song wasn't really great imo. I think the lyrics to this one are pretty wack, but it's enjoyable listening.

how's life, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:17 (five years ago) link

Sorry. I got the Classixx song "All You're Waiting For" confused with Juan Maclean's "You Are My Destiny".

how's life, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:22 (five years ago) link

I like the Classixx joint and the other Juan track from this year a lot, not sure about this one. But I would be so down with a Nancy Whang album.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:26 (five years ago) link

I like this a lot - the early 90s piano house vibe is awesome. Reminds me of Edward's World's "Soul Roots".

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:38 (five years ago) link

Good, good stuff.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:53 (five years ago) link

good kick drum, I approve

smang culture (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:57 (five years ago) link

good track

would LOVE a nancy whang album

lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:03 (five years ago) link

melody's too infantile or something. prefer "all you're waiting for"

flopson, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:39 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

love everything I've got of these guys, but find sorting through house music in general tiresome and bewildering. did not like the Studio stuff I heard. what else is out there that's like this?

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 January 2014 17:48 (five years ago) link

a) we don't know what you've got of these guys
b) Studio are not house music
c) we don't know what you've heard of Studio

it would be fun to answer your question otherwise!

(D1CK$) (sic), Friday, 31 January 2014 23:35 (five years ago) link

I heard West Coast and was bored by it. I have Less Than Human, the Future Will Come, Feel So Good DJ Kicks, By the Time I Get to Venus and some other 12" I can't remember right now

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 January 2014 23:47 (five years ago) link

Are you a fan of DFA acts in general?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:23 (five years ago) link

Well I like LCD Soundsystem. Never listened to hot chip or their other acts.

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 1 February 2014 01:52 (five years ago) link

My EOY #1s from two different years: (longer version is on Spotify, even better)

the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Saturday, 1 February 2014 02:04 (five years ago) link


The Reverend, Friday, 19 September 2014 19:33 (four years ago) link


― The Reverend, Friday, 19 September 2014 19:33 (47 minutes ago)


The Etienne de Crecy take on "Like An Eagle"/"Comme Un Aigle" is working a lot better than the Audiojack one.

etc, Friday, 19 September 2014 20:43 (four years ago) link

album of the year candidate for me. simply gorgeous.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:33 (four years ago) link

Same here. I went on a trip last week and it was all I listened to for two days. Played maybe ten times and just did not get bored of it. There may be a couple of higher highs on The Future Will Come but I think I prefer this one overall.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 00:42 (four years ago) link

loving this more with each listen. weirdly charlotte is the song that took the longest to warm to, but now I love it. This is a top 5 DFA record, easily.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:01 (four years ago) link

What a perfectly charming record.

"The Sun Will Never Set On Our Love" is such a good look.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 October 2014 21:03 (four years ago) link

i feel like there's nothing to say about this because it's so exactly what you expect and it's just john & nancy doing what john & nancy do but every moment really hits the spot so perfectly

lex pretend, Friday, 3 October 2014 08:46 (four years ago) link

yeah that's how I feel too m/l

the Kazakh noun/adjective distinction (seandalai), Friday, 3 October 2014 08:54 (four years ago) link

I've grown to like much of it except when he starts to sing.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 October 2014 10:57 (four years ago) link

SITP needs a juan vocal-less edit, it sags so badly when his hot chip voice tramples all over the disco.

DISMISSED AS CHANCE (NotEnough), Friday, 3 October 2014 14:38 (four years ago) link

I know I'm talking shit because I like Phil Oakey.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 October 2014 14:39 (four years ago) link

ha, i am usually pretty alert to the problem of the unwanted male voice galumphing in but i felt this album dodged that pitfall

lex pretend, Friday, 3 October 2014 14:47 (four years ago) link

Right now only "The Sun Will Never Set On Our Love", "A Simple Design" and "Running Back To You" feel like all-time essential tracks to me. Not that there's anything bad here, though maybe the strike rate is a bit lower than on The Future Will Come.

the Kazakh noun/adjective distinction (seandalai), Friday, 3 October 2014 16:49 (four years ago) link

I need to listen to this album but I am always hesitant to dwelve into a new one because of his voice, despite mostly adoring their previous albums.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 4 October 2014 00:18 (four years ago) link

Keep getting "Little Lies" uncanny valley moments with "You Were a Runaway".

etc, Sunday, 5 October 2014 00:00 (four years ago) link

John's vocals have bothered me a lot before but not at all here.

goon kabuki (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 October 2014 00:42 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

christ this album is amazing innit.

piscesx, Monday, 20 October 2014 10:38 (four years ago) link

it really is! i can't think of a single interesting thing to say about it but it has given me a ton of pleasure lately.

lex pretend, Monday, 20 October 2014 12:53 (four years ago) link

me too. it's so good it makes me feel like a jerk for not giving enough time to earlier releases. i need to revisit!

Karl Malone, Monday, 20 October 2014 12:57 (four years ago) link

'ive waited for so long' is ace

johnny crunch, Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:28 (four years ago) link

Finally ordered this

Οὖτις, Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:30 (four years ago) link

still not really feeling this much, someone point out what i'm missing (besides "running back to you")

✓ out this insane nakh yall (gr8080), Sunday, 9 November 2014 20:51 (four years ago) link

fwiw I discovered yesterday that it almost becomes a different album when listened to on good headphones

legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Sunday, 9 November 2014 22:22 (four years ago) link

does MacLean's voice improve?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 November 2014 22:26 (four years ago) link

He's only noticeable on a couple of tracks anyway iirc? Thought he was more distracting on the previous album (which I still love).

legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Sunday, 9 November 2014 22:32 (four years ago) link

How are John (Juan? idk) and Nancy live? They're coming to town and I don't think it's just a DJ set (or else I wouldn't bother even thinking of going).

Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Monday, 10 November 2014 09:06 (four years ago) link

It's almost certainly a DJ set; they haven't played live since Jerry died AFAIK, although Juan says he wants to get a new band together soon.

(I saw 'em touring Happy House with Holy Ghost as the rest of the band, and they were phenomenal. There's a killer 19-minute live version of HH on vimeo w/ Jerry & Eric Broucek (iirc) that you should totally watch.)

the incredible string gland (sic), Monday, 10 November 2014 09:25 (four years ago) link

Two DJ sets.

the incredible string gland (sic), Monday, 10 November 2014 09:25 (four years ago) link

Did Jerry Play on The Future Will Come at all? I'm thinking about the drum rolls all over a track like 'Tonight', and how they really add to the emotional drive of the song, and how some of the songs on this new one would have been improved here with similar attention to rhythm. I do like it, but it feels a bit by numbers.

Matt DC, Monday, 10 November 2014 11:19 (four years ago) link

Jerry's on the title track and No Time, all other full-kit drumming is by Nick from HG!, inc Tonight. He's too busy co-writing and producing this one, so only drums on one track, with the HG touring drummer on a bunch.

the incredible string gland (sic), Monday, 10 November 2014 14:20 (four years ago) link

'running back to you' is such a jam, it's like an even more spaced-out 'i can't go for that (no can do)'

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:50 (four years ago) link

Finally listened to this and not only is it great but I would go so far as to say as I like his voice at times on this album so well done everybody

boxedjoy, Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:28 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

new mix

Juan MacLean - Pop-Kultur-Mix for Thump

djmartian, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:39 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

New song out, nice nods to "Problemes d'Amour":

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 4 March 2017 03:21 (two years ago) link

Full track:

Pretty serious DX-7 E2-E4 homage.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 4 March 2017 04:10 (two years ago) link

This new song is great. Nancy Whang 5eva.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 4 March 2017 17:06 (two years ago) link


a but (brimstead), Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:02 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

i love this

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:39 (one year ago) link

That Octo Octa remix of 'Here I Am' was good (love the original too).

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:30 (one year ago) link

Is Juan Maclean going to end up with a better 2017 album than LCD Soundsystem? Likely.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:24 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

does anyone else really love the boy ep (2016)?

macropuente (map), Sunday, 2 December 2018 08:29 (seven months ago) link

this track is blowing my drunk and high motherfucking mind

macropuente (map), Sunday, 2 December 2018 08:32 (seven months ago) link

I haven't loved everything they've done the past few years but this is brilliant, the synths are just so sparkling and I think this might be one of the best performances by Nancy Whang

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:06 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

"Tonight" is such a banger.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 00:02 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

A compilation of all the recent singles and a few new tracks is coming on September 20th. I kept thinking it was time for a new album (five years since In a Dream already!) and I guess this is the closest we're going to get for now.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:07 (one month ago) link

Haven't kept up with their singles, must remedy (and can conveniently do so come September..)

willem, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:42 (one month ago) link

the singles are all fuckin phenomenal

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:50 (one month ago) link

all the recent singles and a few new tracks

it's not all the singles, which I know just because literally hours before that story published I was retagging mp3s to make two compilations on my ipod ("mid-period" and "late period"). I think the title track is the only collected one without Nancy on it though

how I break it down to an extent:

01. What Do You Feel Free About? [2018 single]
02. Zone Non Linear [2019 single]
03. You Are My Destiny [2013 single]
04. Get Down (With My Love) [2014 single]
05. Feel Like Movin' [2013 split single]
06. Quiet Magician [new]
07. Pressure Danger [new]
08. Can You Ever Really Know Somebody [2017 single]
09. The Brighter The Light [2017 single]

not included:

Mirembe [2017 split single - as "Juan"]
Sad To Think [2018 single]
Quantum Reach [2018 split single - Amy collab]
Panic In Fort Greene Park [2018 "solo" boogie EP]
- Fine Time
- Don't Stop For Nothing
- Everybody Clap
- Panic In Fort Greene Park
Just Once More [2018 "solo" disco single]
Time Out Of Joint [2019 split single A1]
Everywhere At Once [2019 split single A2]

(bolds are explicitly by The / don't have Nancy. also of late and of interest: 2016 3-track EP by "Juan MacLean's Peach Melba," and a 2017 4-track EP of cocktail-party house with Shit Robot as Autofac. which sounds more like a name you should use for clattering machine techno imo. he also mixed all of Shit Robot's last album, and played on or produced bits of it, including a Juan / Nancy / Poopbot joint)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 21:25 (one month ago) link

Mirembe [2017 split single - as "Juan"]

turns out this was someone on Discogs being dumb

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 15 June 2019 21:51 (one month ago) link

another non-album single out next week, as a duo with Man Power called Juan Power - one of the b-sides is a remix of an otherwise unreleased track, so presumably there's more to come

(there's a soundcloud embed of the A-side in that story, but it won't load for me)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:36 (one month ago) link

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