Charlie Rich - Behind Closed Doors

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Just wondering what other people generally think of this album. When I first heard it, a year or so ago, I unfairly and incorrectly clumped it in with all the schlock that I blamed for helping to injure country music (a topic for another thread maybe - Kenny rogers, Destroyer of Country Music - but, damn if he didn't do it with sparkle and flair). But, I played it again the other day and now I can't stop listening to it.

I put it on one side of a tape, with Kristofferson's "Silver Tongued Devil & I" on the other side, and now I just want to drive and drive and drive.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Haven't heard the whole album, but I love everything Rich put out. (Especially "Life Has its Little Ups and Downs," "Feel Like Going Home" and "Who Will the Next Fool Be.")
Arguably the most versatile popular musician ever -- he played rock, R&B, jazz, blues and country all in convincing fashion.
And he dissed John Denver during an awards show, so that's a plus.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ha! What did he say, anyway?

Not heard the album, just the singles -- I tend to prefer "The Most Beautiful Girl" because I actually remember that one from the radio, never actually heard "Behind Closed Doors" to my knowledge (and when I did hear it recently I had no sudden rush or realization of it being some song of my youth or anything).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ned in loving Billy Sherrill shocker!

I think of "Behind Closed Doors" as the start of a downturn in quality: the material CR had been issuing in the five or six years up to that point was so insanely great (search: the "Boss Man" LP, anything on Smash) and this stuff didn't quite measure up.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Thanks, Tim. I don't know any other CR albums. Yet, that is. But, like I said, I've really recently warmed up to "Behind Closed Doors". It's got all the right hyperbolic countryish depressing themes. But with more strings.

I think I'll head over to the record store and see if I can't find some earlier albums.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I loved it when I was about 8. That indicates to me that it was crap/schlock.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ned in loving Billy Sherrill shocker!

It's weird! That's about the only example of what Sherrill was doing I can stand (well, that and George Jones -- I think he's one of those producers that works better when there's a voice that either cuts through the arrangement [Jones] or is clearly the lead instrument straight up [Rich]). Most of the other Sherrill stuff that I've dealt with just doesn't work that way and settles into metaglop.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It's a good record. "Behind Closed Doors" and "You Never Really Wanted Me" are excellent songs.

David Gates of Delirium, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Regarding Charlie Rich's John Denver diss -- this was written by Chet Flippo:

"For me, probably the all-time greatest CMA Awards moment came at the 1975 awards show as a result of that 1974 split. An obviously well-lubricated Charlie Rich ended his reign as 1974’s entertainer of the year by announcing the new recipient of the CMA’s top prize. Charlie, who had been drinking a little backstage, pulled out his Zippo lighter and set fire to the card holding the announcement of sugary country-pop singer John Denver's win as 1975’s entertainer of the year. Rich held the burning card up for the cameras on the nationally-televised live show and he smiled a big smile of triumph. It's the sort of unscripted moment you will probably never again see on a CMA Awards show."

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I can quite happily listen to just about anything that Charlie Rich put out - he's not far off being my favourite singer.

I'd agree that he made better records (I'd particularly recommend The Complete Smash Sessions, The Complete Charlie Rich on Hi Records, and Pictures and Paintings - his final album) but Behind Closed Doors has still got some great songs.

I Take It On Home is a classic country song about the responsibilities and difficulties of being in a marriage, of a type that he seemed to make his own (Life's Little Ups & Downs etc). And You Never Really Wanted Me is heartbreaking.

(xp)

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

God, I would kill to see that CMA tape.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

My god, that's a brilliant story.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think he greatly regretted it afterwards. It's a good story, but the problem is too many people remember him for that rather than his songs.

(And his "big smile of triumph" was probably a big smile of inebriation.)

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

That story makes me like Charlie Rich even more. How could it do anything else, I guess.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, I'm sure he regretted it after he sobered up, and it certainly didn't help his career any. But years later, it makes him appear heroic! I mean, SOMEONE's got to take a stand against mediocre music.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 16:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Am I the only one to offer the blasphemous opinion that 'Pictures and Paintings' is a boring dud?

I mean, rerecording 'I Feel Like Goin' Home'???? Sick. The demo version of that is as good as it gets.

Everybody dumps on Billy Sherrill but he made great records with Rich, Tammy Wynette and Jones. GREAT. Ever heard 'Right Now I'd Come Back And Melt In Your Arms' 'I'm Not Ready Yet' 'On the Back Row' 'I'm All She's Got'?? The singing on the remakes on the Jones greatest hits vol I haunts in a manner like 'Slim Slo Slider.'
Tammy Wynette RIP

rumple., Tuesday, 23 September 2003 16:56 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Life's Little Ups and Downs" is one of the best vocals ever.

chris herrington (chris herrington), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

YES. Great songwriting as well. Rips your guts out, that one.

rumple., Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

A truly lovely song.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

maybe not his best album, but it's a work of pop country genius from start to finish. agreed, too, about "life's little ups and downs," which is on the quite aptly named "the fabulous charlie rich" and which charlie didn't write; his wife did. he was blessed not only with one of the greatest voices of all time and an amazing head of hair, but also with a wife who (a) put up with his drunken behavior, (b) loved him anyway, and (c) wrote a few stone-cold classics for him. you can't ask for much more than that!

if you're looking for a place to start with charlie rich, i wouldn't suggest any album. i'd start instead with peter guralnick's amazing essay about him in the book "feels like going home."

and then once you start buying his albums, take rumple's advice to heart and avoid the final dud, "pictures and paintings," a horribly misguided attempt at respectability.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

and do not forget 'A Woman Left Lonely' which at this very moment is wafting out from the other room and causing the neck-hair to stand at attention.

The fires of the night, they can burn an Unloved Woman, y'know.

And what a great piano player this motherfucker was. He and Skip James have a certain element of sad insanity to their playing.

rumple., Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The Fabulous Charlie Rich is one of my fav albums ever....Life Has it's little ups and downs....plus.....his ultra gem-
San Francisco is a Lonely Town

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 19:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, "The Fabulous..." may be his best album.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 19:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

and then once you start buying his albums, take rumple's advice to heart and avoid the final dud, "pictures and paintings," a horribly misguided attempt at respectability.

Have to disagree there. I don't think it was an attempt at respectability, I think it was an attempt to make a much more jazz-inflected record. He'd described himself in the past as more of a jazz musician than country, and I think he felt he was making music that was closer to the 'true' Charlie Rich than what he had been doing before.

Whether it was better is a moot point. I love the record, but if push comes to shove I'd take the Smash compilation first.

I heard the full gospel choir version of 'Feel like going home' before the demo and it sounds perfect to me. The failure is still there in his voice, but by the end, when the choir comes in, it's almost like he's being borne aloft. Like he's been forgiven for all the failure and he's on his way to the Lord despite it all. It's a song that never fails to move me, and it moves me all the more because it stirs contradictory emotions.

I agree with fact checking cuz's comments about Margaret Ann Rich. The fact that she wrote some great songs for him about their marriage makes them resonate all the more.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 08:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I heard the gospel version first, too. I'll stick with the demo. The last version is not worth comment.

A jazz record by Rich would've been a natural thing. He should've gotten some real producers instead of "sympathetic" scribes. It sounds like a Rounder Records effort to me, which to these ears is one step above CMC International. As in the boneyard.

And how about that 'Set Me Free'...

rumple., Wednesday, 24 September 2003 20:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not really interested who produced the album or what record label it sounds like - to these ears it sounds fine, but we'll have to agree to differ. (And whether you like it or not it's a little arrogant to claim the second version of FLGH is "not worth comment".)

'Set Me Free' is definitely one of his finest though.

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 25 September 2003 07:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

woah there, nellie...I said the THIRD version of 'Feel Like Goin' Home' is the one not worth comment. The one on that 'Polaroids and Watercolors' thing. The first version is pretty good.

arrogance? on this list? be still my cold, cold heart. actually, I think it was arrogant for anybody to think they could top the two versions of 'Home' captured by Sherrill.

rumple., Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

As long as this keeps coming up, can I put in my vote for the Walkabouts version of "Feel Like Goin' Home"? Sheer goddamn brilliance.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I now need to try and find all of these songs, which, considering I'm currently stranded in Nebraska, you'd think wouldn't be so difficult. But it's surprisingly hard to find even good country music here.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm a big fan of Rich. I like of Sherill-produced stuff, actually.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 25 September 2003 17:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i miss this record, i have it on vinyl and couldn't take it with me. i adore charlie rich. i didn't like his comeback album produced by peter guralnick though. "life's little ups and downs" is great, it's like his "i walk the line"--it was written by his wife.

everyone should read guralnick's profile of charlie.... actually there are two profiles. one is in the book "feel like going home" and the other is in...i forget. they are incredibly poignant.

under his high school yearbook photo it read "charlie 'stan kenton' rich"!

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 25 September 2003 18:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

poignant and, i should say, vivid.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 25 September 2003 18:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

haha "feel like going home" is like a warning to me right now, i hope it's not prophecy.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 25 September 2003 18:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Rumple, I didn't actually know there were three versions, so you've got me there. I did mean the Pictures and Paintings one.

And sorry if 'arrogance' sounded a bit harsh. I didn't think it was arrogance that you didn't like it, more that you thought it wasn't even worthy of comment (good or bad). I still think it's a remarkable record.

Amateurist, the other profile is in Lost Highway.

This thread makes me want to play a lot of Charlie Rich this weekend.

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Will it go round in circles? as my good man Billy Preston might say. Time for Sir Charlie to have the last word:

(doomy piano note)
(slight charlie growl)
Lord I feel like goin' home
(bee deedle deedle deedle dee piano begins)
I tried and I failed
(more)
And I'm tired and weary
An' everything I done was wrong
(beedle deedle deedle dee, particularly sad)
And I feel like goin' home
(slightly bright beedle deedle)
Lord I tried to see it through
(darkness, hard beedle deedle)
but it was too MUCH
(again, slightly ironic, perhaps)
for me
And now I'm comin' home
to you
(sad sad beedle deedle)
I feel like goin' home
(88s restate the case)
Cloudly skies are closin' in
(beedle deedle)
And not a friend
around
to
help me
From all the places
I have been
(beedle deedle)
Now I feel like goin' home
(heavenly-bound beedle deedle dee)
Lord, I feel like goin' home
I tried and I failed
And I'm tired and weary
Everything I done was wrong
(regret beedle deedle)
And I feel like goin' home
(almost jaunty beedle deedle dee-dee)
And that's it.

And that IS it.

rumple., Friday, 26 September 2003 17:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

whoops. after next-to-last "feel like goin' home" insert:
(charlie touches angels)

apologies.

rumple., Friday, 26 September 2003 17:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
can someone YSI me that famous demo of "feel like going home"? i heard it once and it's haunted me ever since, but i've never been able to find an mp3 of it.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 12 January 2006 06:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

if nobody beats me to it i will rip/post this shit tonight when I get home ---- it's too beautiful ------

reacher, Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, would definitely like to hear that as well. Much thanks.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Behind Closed Doors is a great song, but it's been rather spoiled in Scotland through its use in a TV advertising campaign about domestic violence. A very effective advert, but it made the song rather sinister.

stew!, Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

that "Feel Like" is amazing. I remember getting it on a great Rich tape my friend made for me, years ago, and driving thru Arkansas on my way to Little Rock from Memphis, just overwhelmed by it. I do think Sherrill fucked Rich up aesthetically, sure, but at the same time the man needed to get some recognition. such a melancholy guy, so troubled. I'm a fan of his two Epic LPs from '70, "Boss Man" and "Fabulous Charlie Rich," which seem to me a perfect compromise between his earlier stuff and what he did later. even there, though, I think there are some missteps. but as I'm sure I've mentioned before here, there are no words to describe how much I love his "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Charlie Rich is one of my heroes--and I totally disagree with the anti-Sherrillism. "Set Me Free," "Peace on You," "Don't Put No Headstone On My Grave," and especially "Life's Little Ups and Downs" are all absolutely gorgeous and light years from the "glop" tag that Sherrill gets. They're really perfect recordings.

Guralnick's chapter on him in Feel Like Going Home (for which, Charlie wrote the song) still amazes me every time I read it.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Here's the "Feel Like Going Home" demo. Recorded in Nashville 1973. You can hear piano pedals or maybe the stool creak. I titled and built the concept of a radio show around it.

http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20WIJGMRBOG0R32FZQ8V5NW6JC

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Oh, and it comes from Feel Like Going Home: The Essential Charlie Rich (Sony/Legacy 1997). Selected and annotated by Guralnick. Two CDs of utter sublimeness.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002AB1/qid=1137093681/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/103-0227664-5327031?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Scratch "Headstone" from that list of classics; it's clunkier than I recall. Add "You Never Really Wanted Me" or "A Woman Left Lonely" instead.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

A thousand thanks for that, Roy!! You and everyone who contributed to this thread past and present are now like minor deities to me or something. I have been educated, and: It's Good.

The lyrics alone to that song are like, wow. Charlie Rich has pummeled me into even greater inarticulateness than usual.

Dell (Dell), Thursday, 12 January 2006 23:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

sublimeness sublimity

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 13 January 2006 00:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Edd needs to share with us that "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" song.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 January 2006 00:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I do, I do, and I need to figger out this YSI stuff, semi-Luddite (by necessity, not by inclination) that I am these days...with my old Mac and my manual lawn mower...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sounds like I'd have better luck asking Charlie.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

sublimeness sublimity

Whatever. sub-lime'ness, n. the state or quality of being sublime.
-- Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, Deluxe Second Edition. (My favorite.)

I have "Memphis & Arkansas Bridge" but on vinyl. Maybe I'll kill some more time and transfer.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i have that dictionary, too! edd, i don't have this Chrlies Rich, so get to ripping, or lawnmowing.

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

make that Charlie

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Charlie Rich "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" from Boss Man, Epic 1970
Produced by Billy Sherrill

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08Z1HNPH5R8PL19ZNZYLGMGB6X

If you dig, it looks like both Boss Man and Very Special Love Songs are available as a twofer on Edsel (a reissue from '05 that should have been on my list):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/tracks/B0007MAQVY/103-0227664-5327031?%5Fencoding=UTF8#disc_1

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 03:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

thank you so much!!!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 13 January 2006 04:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Sun and Groove/RCA stuff is hot, too. "Breakup," "Philadelphia Baby," "Who Will the Next Fool Be," "Big Boss Man," "There's Another Place I Can't Go."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 13 January 2006 04:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Up-thread somebody said there was a Billy Sherrill-produced version of FLGH (not counting the demo). Maybe in the vaults, but it's never been released, near as I can tell.

And if there's one demo of Rich and piano, there's got to be more--that shit needs to be released.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the Amazing Rhythm Aces do a real respectable version of "Who Will the Next Fool Be" on their first album, which I checked out of the Nashville public library recently and discovered I quite liked.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That Feel Like Going Home is magnificent, Roy - thank you. I had a version, but this is even better.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 13 January 2006 21:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That's all I needed tonight, Roy. Thanks for the upload.

And thanks to Edd for putting the bug in our ear.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I signed onto YSI. why, it's so easy...

anyway, went back and listened to those Sherrill/Rich records, and they're certainly a cut above the usual '70s Nashville gloppy shit. Rich's voice almost always makes it all really interesting. Just think what could have happened had Rich gotten on Blue Note or some jazz label; just think about him backed by Duke Ellington...he wouldn't have made as much money but I bet he would have been far less melancholy, and maybe still alive today...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 14 January 2006 14:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

...if the Duke would've made him quit smoking cigarettes.

Not so sure Charlie would've benefited from straight jazz/Blue Note kinda treatment, he was a true fusion artist intuitively blending styles, his easy listening tendencies figure as imporantly as his jazz and blues leanings (along w/the realism/sentimentality schism in wife Margaret's lyrics). Though an album of Charlie Sings Standards w/a big band sounds enticing on paper in practice it could turn out like his "legendary" Stax sessions which left me kinda cold. Long story short, I think CR's Billy Sherrill period is better than credited, arguably his peak esp. those initial 3 albums: Big Boss Man, Set Me Free, The Fabulous Charlie Rich.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Billy Sherrill years aren't so bad, but after BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, Sherrill "whitened" up Charlie's sound something terrible. As best as I can tell, that was really Charlie's last great moment before PICTURES & PAINTINGS.

I've never heard SILVER LININGS (a post-'74 gospel album that Guralnick thinks is great), but in general anything Sherrill produced on him from that year onward - BEWARE, BROTHER, BEWARE!!!

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Sunday, 15 January 2006 00:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

The Feel Like Going Home demo can be bought from iTunes or Amazon. It's on an out-of-print comp called FLGH, The Essential Charlie Rich. No better way to spend 99 cents.

that's not my post, Friday, 8 May 2009 05:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Silver Linings is awesome.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

There's also some great stuff on that older Bear Family comp of his Sun Records recordings. A lot of it is just plain nuts, especially stuff like "Popcorn Polly." It seems like whenever Rich tries to write a straight forward teen hit, he can't help but take it some oddball directions. One of those guys who sound nice and conventional on the surface, but when you peel it back is profoundly weird.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 9 May 2009 18:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

at the end of the day, it's really all about that slow walkin', fast talkin', good lookin' Mohair Sam...

henry s, Sunday, 10 May 2009 16:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Nice 'N' Easy, damn, that's a sexy tune.

that's not my post, Monday, 6 July 2009 03:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

That CMA clip is on youtube now...Charlie was Fuuuuuuuuuuuucccckkkked Up...the cut to Glen Campbell after it's over is priceless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krZmHCQ3l9o

The whole show is up as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDyPmBlon0Y

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:06 (five years ago) Permalink

that clip is awesome. but poor dude who had to keep that timpani roll going for 25 seconds.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:54 (five years ago) Permalink

thnaks for posting is all i can type thru tears of laughter

screen scraper (m coleman), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 09:52 (five years ago) Permalink

kanye rich

screen scraper (m coleman), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 11:16 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

The man is so desperate, he's casual: Music Sounds Better With Two talks about Charlie Rich (and musical isolation) - http://musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/endless-quest-charlie-rich-most.html

agincourtgirl, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:30 (four years ago) Permalink

It Ain't Gonna Be That Way the Complete Smash sessions is pretty essential methinks.
Some of his early 70s stuff had me wondering if he was a conscious influence on Nick Cave, Tindersticks and a few others.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:55 (four years ago) Permalink

The most recent Oxford American music issuue has a great Rich piece:

http://www.oxfordamerican.org/articles/2014/jan/07/issue-83-dear-charlie/

Okay, there's lil' Zipper again (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 13:50 (four years ago) Permalink

That Oxford American article is fantastic. Mind-blowing to think he didn't start singing until he was 22. Would be on my short list for favorite singers.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 05:56 (four years ago) Permalink

In 1966, when Charlie Rich was at a nadir in his career, Sy moved him to Hi Records, a small-time local studio, and Natalie brought Isaac Hayes in so Charlie could take a shot at one of his songs, “When Something Is Wrong With My Baby.” As Natalie recalls, the backing band was composed of legendary session players from Stax and Hi—the Memphis Horns, Andrew Love and Wayne Jackson, along with Tommy Cogbill on bass and Willie Hall on drums. Hayes sat next to Charlie at the piano and taught him the song before they recorded it in one take. For “Pass on By,” Sy Rosenberg himself blew a meandering trumpet solo in the background.

The Hayes track was never released


Just came across this track on Spotify right before reading this. Pretty sweet.

Visions of Mojo Hannah (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:55 (four years ago) Permalink

As I said way up thread, one of the most versatile pop musicians ever. Him and Ray Charles, anyway. Going to hunt down that Oxford American issue today.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I need to see that too

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:20 (four years ago) Permalink

You can read online, I think.

The Jody Valgrind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Yup, that link right above. Maybe Jazzbo just wanted the hard copy of the magazine

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:41 (four years ago) Permalink

Is it in the latest print issue or it in the Music issue from end of last year? I have a physical copy of that but keep misplacing it.

The Jody Valgrind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Dan says its the music issue above, and I have also misplaced mine...

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Found it

The Jody Valgrind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2014 18:51 (four years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

Charlie Rich, country & western singer ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xXFqEjcuXg

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 3 December 2018 10:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Is the RCA & Groove stuff as good as the Smash recordings? There was a 2cd put out by Ace at the start of the year which was called
Too Many Teardrops: The Complete Groove & RCA Recordings. So I wonder if i need that as much as the Smash stuff.

Stevolende, Monday, 3 December 2018 10:31 (one week ago) Permalink

I don't see a big difference in terms of quality between the two; if you like the Smash stud even half as much as I do then I strongly recommend that new CD (apparently there are a few bits on the new edition that I haven't heard so there may be a few duffers on it but I know most of it and it's gold IMO.)

Tim, Monday, 3 December 2018 11:25 (one week ago) Permalink


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