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why all the jamc-luv these days? is it just because of 'lost in translation' or is there something more going on?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Some good records!

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Bad cover bands! (ie, BRMC)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh please, no. No.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I still don't understand why people think they sound like jamc - though i've kind of gone out of my way to avoid em so what do i know

what i've heard sounds more like oasis

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What track and in what context do the Mary Chain appear in "Lost in Translation"?

I haven't seen it yet.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"just like honey" - melancholy drive thru tokyo

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(also prominent in the trailers and tv ads)

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The only track I've heard associated with the flick is "What's So Funny..." by Costello (Murray karaoking it?)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I still don't understand why people think they sound like jamc

It's more JAMC filtered through Love and Rockets' attempts on same -- which I adore, but BRMC proceed to take that formula and then, well, make it suck. One Spacemen 3 ripoff aside, they're a fairly boring and joyless crew.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

According to some friends in a band that played with them, they (the BRMC) take themselves VERY seriously.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i kinda like the jamc-ishness of the raveonettes, but i haven't heard much

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The new BRMC isn't very JAMC-ish at all. I think they tried to do a more straight-ahead garage-rock album, and it turned out even worse.

I saw the Raveonettes described as JAMC meets Buddy Holly. Intriguing, but I don't know if it's worth finding their album.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I really like the first Ravonettes album "Whip It On." It's like if JAMC were into surfing. Deadpan, cruising sexiness.

I'm going to see BRMC tonight. I'm going in with an open mind. But I agree the new album is underwhelming.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

b-b-b-but JAMC were into surfing. deadpan, even.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I just don't hear the connection between bands of late and JAMC. Even BRMC look the look but certainly don't have the sound. It's the sound, GDI.

Michael G, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i dunno, i personally prefer SMC to JAMC and BRMC but maybe GHMC is better or possibiliy IFJDOMC, MCCMMCCM, or HFRUEIIMC

fds, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Alex, skip work and go see the flick today. It's a must. "...Honey" plays over the end credits, incidentally. And Murray does karaoke the Elvis Costello song, but he kills with the Roxy Music song, which he sings like Ian Curtis. Goosebumps. Movie of the year.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I just got the Raveonettes first album today. Definitely in JAMC territory. Soundwise, it reminds me of the JAMC cover of "Who Do You Love" and of their more surf-guitar stuff. Only problem: all the songs sound very much the same, and they're all in the same key (on the cover, it proudly states that all songs are in the same key). So, any given song is great, but listening to eight in a row, they really start to blend together.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

dammit, ive got the sdtrk, but the movie hasnt come out here yet. i dont know if it ever will. ive been looking forward to it for much too long to miss out.

Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the best JAMC influenced bands these days are Radio Dept and House of Mexico who both ROCK in a noisy twee sort of way

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 22:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

According to some friends in a band that played with them, they (the BRMC) take themselves VERY seriously.

That's a surprise? Even the bands who (generally) swear they are "fun-loving" (ie. in a press kit) take their craft seriously.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 22:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm a gonna ditto the Raveonettes raving. They're a *good* JAMC/early MBV rip-off band. They do slavishly know their genre, but they somehow manage to be both cool and fun-loving with it.

Otherwise, I really don't much like the post-post-JAMC bands. BRMC can suck my big hairy moose's cock, as can the Warlocks.

kate (kate), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 08:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Phoney Jesus and Mary Chain mania has bitten the dust.

My Name is William Reid, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 12:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That's a surprise? Even the bands who (generally) swear they are "fun-loving" (ie. in a press kit) take their craft seriously.

He didn't say they took their craft seriously. He said they took THEMSELVES seriously. There's a difference.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 13:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

YAY! The BBC sessions have been reissued, for release YESTERDAY! I know a lot of people were looking forward to this, so there it is...kthx

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 18:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Amid the hatin', I'm happy to report that BRMC were pretty damn good last night.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 19:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Someone must have forcefed them sugar. Did they actually move on stage or would that have hurt them?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 19:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think the closest anyone has come to the Jesus and Mary Chain recently is, *gulp*, Andrew WK's "She is Beautiful" - especially that "I ain't got nothin' to lose..." part. It's very easy to imagine Jim Reid singing that and the sound is very Mary Chain. All these other bands like BRMC and Raveonettes are basically DOA, they just have no strong tunes/hooks and no bite to the sound - especially BRMC who are just a godawful dirge (though their new record is better than the last one).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 20:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

does anyone know if freeheat are still going?

joan vich (joan vich), Thursday, 25 September 2003 08:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they seem to be (their website is still current) but maybe someone knows different? if katie g was around, she'd know

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

does anyone know if freeheat are still going?

I saw 'em play a coupla months back, Jim Reid now looks like a slightly portly accountant - which is fine

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

does anyone know if freeheat are still going?
I saw 'em play a coupla months back, Jim Reid now looks like a slightly portly accountant - which is fine

...and perhaps equally pertinently, Jim'n'William's sister is currently peddling her wares in a band called Sister Vanilla, with contributions from both brothers on her album.

Looks like we Londoners missed (t)he(i)r last gig tho, cos it was this Tuesday just gone. Was anyone there?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

esoj (or anyone else for that matter), can you direct me to more information on House of Mexico? My googling attempts have failed and having them mentioned in the same breath as The Radio Dept has me interested. Also, did the Sister Vanilla album ever come out? I liked the track on the geographic comp as well as the track she sang on Munki.

fffv (fffv), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
CD80 'portable' Mary Chain go!

Upside Down
Never Understand
You Trip Me Up
Just Like Honey
The Living End
Taste of Cindy
Some Candy Talking
The Hardest Walk (Some Kind of Wonderful OST vers.)
April Skies
Kill Surf City
Happy When It Rains
Everything is Alright When You're Down
Deep One Perfect Morning
Nine Million Rainy Days
Cherry Came Too
On the Wall
Don't Ever Change
Blues From a Gun
My Girl
Head On
Sometimes Always

(ok, this one is very personal and ignores their later stuff. they're one of my three favorite bands and this collection represents some of my most treasured music, but the last 3 albums just didn't do it for me. "Reverence" is the glaring omission here because I like the idea and lyrics, but the song itself is kind of a tuneless dud. I'd also like to have had "Far Gone and Out" or "Almost Gold" but they're just not as good as the tracks that fit 80 minutes on this one.

I'd love to have someone recommend a CD80 for the last three albums/b-sides.

The list is chronological for official releases per song appearance - 81:21 overburn!)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

See, I'm mad at you because _Honey's Dead_ is far and away my favorite JAMC album. Not having ANY of those tracks is not on.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

PARTICULARLY if you're going to put the DEEPLY DEEPLY OVERRATED "Head On" on there!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Don't kill him, Perry, as Just Like Honey shows taste.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Actually Dan, I was thinking partially of you when I suggested someone do a comp of their favorite tracks from the later albums!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

My comp would be Barbed Wire Kisses.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

that's why you're a mentalist!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm totally boring and unhelpful because my comp would be _Honey's Dead_ plus the remix of "Teenage Lust" from _I Hate Rock & Roll_.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

not that Barbed Wire Kisses isn't grebt/bording on perfection, but no "April Skies"? no "Just Like Honey", that's just weird, dude.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dan, I'll throw it on tonight!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it saves me a CDR spencer!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

is it me, or is the whole brmc/warlocks dress-black-dope-drone deal like basically existentially incorrect at this stage of the game? god knows i loved this shit for years, and the first two mary chain recs remain two of my faves ever, but it seems like the wrong way to sound/dress/live now. somebody smarter than me needs to put a couple of a hundred words together explaining why i am right.

dan (dan), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they just don't do it right. If they were actually cool/sexy it would work. I think the Strokes follow a similar kind of "cool" dress code and it works better for them. I guess nowadays with the pervasiveness of stylists etc, people withhold the bestowing of cool. When Jim and William dressed like the VU and spray stenciled c*nt onto their button down shirts (buttoned all the way up) it was like the coolest thing in the universe.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard the new JAMCha...I mean, Raveonettes?

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 7 November 2003 01:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Spencer, I like you, but you've finally put a foot wrong here. Up your bum for not picking "Reverence"!!!! My favorite song ever!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

And I'd include "Sundown" for

the planet's more fucked up than I'll ever be

Right on! Honey's Dead was like a coming of age for me, I can't be objective about it.

Did Hope Sandoval break it off with her Reid bro then?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I uploaded a nice pic, and voted for "Suck" (b-side of "Never Understand"), would appreciate if you did the same.

Mark G, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:31 (four years ago) Permalink

Of course, I shall be most agrieved if they use my pic and I have to pay £130 to get the crummy poster!

Mark G, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:53 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

, Thursday, 20 November 2014 13:27 (three years ago) Permalink


Brio2, Thursday, 20 November 2014 14:44 (three years ago) Permalink

And Jim took the picture, clearly!

Mark G, Thursday, 20 November 2014 16:01 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Picked up a bundle of the deluxe expanded editions. Listening to an interview conducted by a disinterested Tommy Vance who sounds incredibly like Alan Partridge.

michaellambert, Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:23 (two years ago) Permalink

Janice Long used to get fairly decent interviews out of them.

I mentioned uploading a pic for the poster in the box set, never heard owt from them so I assume it wasn't used

Mark G, Friday, 16 January 2015 08:12 (two years ago) Permalink

the story in psychocandy about young douglas hart is hilarious. "Hey Jim, that wee toddler's looking for you"

brimstead, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:09 (two years ago) Permalink

Touring Psychocandy over here in May:

Tickets on sale Fri. Jan. 30th at 10am PST


05/01 Toronto, ON - Canadian Music Week
05/03 Detroit, MI - St Andrew's Hall
05/05 Chicago, IL - Riviera
05/07 Dallas, TX - The Bomb Factory
05/09 Austin, TX - Levitation / Austin Psych Fest
05/11 Denver, CO - Ogden Theatre
05/13 Vancouver, BC - Vogue Theatre
05/14 Seattle, WA - Showbox
05/16 San Francisco, CA - Warfield

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:18 (two years ago) Permalink

East coast can suck it, apparently... :(

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:27 (two years ago) Permalink

and the Electric Ballroom

Mark G, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:28 (two years ago) Permalink

This has been noted in other threads: if you're a JAMC fan, you'll probably like this.

clemenza, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:32 (two years ago) Permalink

I wish it were a little more whimsical.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 January 2015 22:04 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

This kind of looks like the 120 Minutes set, but I don't remember this happening during a JAMC interview...

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 March 2015 01:04 (two years ago) Permalink

cock chirea, Saturday, 14 March 2015 01:27 (two years ago) Permalink

Ahhh, thank you!

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:57 (two years ago) Permalink

Haha, I just read the part in the Zoe Howe book about that interview.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 14 March 2015 20:37 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

really, wow! i recently signed up to their artist poll, so a new album before that poll is great news.

Bee OK, Thursday, 17 November 2016 02:00 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm hopeful for it. saw them a while back where they were doing a little greatest hits bit then all of psychocandy and it was actually a bonafide great show which i generally don't expect from not particularly active baby boomer bands.

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 17 November 2016 19:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Wow, finally the The Jefferson Airplane cover!

Spencer Chow, Friday, 18 November 2016 00:16 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

god that cover is bad

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The drop shadow...

koogs, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink


harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Song is also bad. Drums are really terrible. Lyrics, chords etc all sound like a JAMC-bot created them. If someone said it was Primal Scream I'd have laughed at it. Mind you there's a certain kind of Jesus and Mary Chain badness which the fans seem to want so what do I know?

everything, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:48 (eleven months ago) Permalink

a bit like a parody of a jamc song that you could imagine in a 90s channel 4 comedy show

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

just heard a snippet on the radio - same line repeated 4 times.

koogs, Friday, 9 December 2016 19:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

'just like honey ...."

Mark G, Friday, 9 December 2016 19:54 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It was all downhill from that point.

everything, Friday, 9 December 2016 20:24 (eleven months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

So... Damage and Joy. It's not bad but kinda unnecessary imo, but anyway - they're back.

oh, and "The Jesus and Mary Chain Announce North American Tour"

Next (this) month, the Jesus and Mary Chain will release Damage and Joy, their first album in 18 years. In addition to their upcoming European dates behind the record, the band have now announced a North American spring tour. This May, they will perform in Brooklyn, Chicago, Toronto, and more. Find their upcoming shows below.

Damage and Joy is out March 24 via ADA/Warner Music. It follows the band’s 1998 LP Munki. The new album was recorded with producer Youth. It features contributions from the band’s touring drummer Brian Young, ex-Lush bassist Phil King, and Youth on bass. They’ve so far put out “Always Sad” and “Amputation” from the album.

The Jesus and Mary Chain
03-23 Newcastle upon Tyne, England - Northumbria University
03-25 Manchester, England - Academy
03-27 Leeds, England - Church
03-28 Leicester, England - O2 Academy
03-29 Bristol, England - O2 Academy
03-31 Birmingham, England - O2 Institute
04-01 Bournemouth, England - O2 Academy
04-02 Oxford, England - O2 Academy
04-03 Cambridge, England - Junction 1
04-05 London, England - O2 Shepherds Bush Empire
04-06 Bexhill-on-Sea, England - De La Warr Pavilion
04-07 Dublin, Ireland - Academy
05-09 St. Paul, MN - The Palace
05-10 Chicago, IL - Riviera
05-12 Toronto, Ontario - Massey Hall
05-14 Brooklyn, NY - Brooklyn Steel
05-19 Los Angeles, CA - The Wiltern
05-20 Oakland, CA - The Fox Theater
05-22 Portland, OR - Crystal Ballroom
05-23 Seattle, WA - Showbox SoDo
05-24 Vancouver, British Columbia - Vogue Theatre

StanM, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

enjoying this (even though JAMC-bot is also OTM)

StanM, Saturday, 18 March 2017 14:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

out tomorrow.

the singles have grown on me.

they also play about 10 minutes away in a couple of weeks' time. i didn't bother with the various reunion tours. do i go?

koogs, Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:09 (eight months ago) Permalink

their first album in 18 years

*vertiginous existential crisis*

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

xp. i enjoyed the show i saw on their last north american tour, like it was a legitimately solid rock show from a gang of olds and I'm glad i went.

having said that i don't think ill be going this time

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

It's about 10 years since I saw JAMC reunion now, they are playing in Bexhill which is like 15 mins on the train, am tempted.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

I enjoyed listening to it last night but I'm not sure how I feel about it in daylight.

mox twelve, Friday, 24 March 2017 18:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

This album is. . . not good.

Austin, Sunday, 16 April 2017 20:28 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah of all of the recent reunion albums, this is one that just doesn't appeal

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 17 April 2017 19:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

Its OK. Which other reunes? Pixies? Blur?

Mark G, Monday, 17 April 2017 20:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

always disappointed that this thread isn't actually called Jesus and Mary Chainia

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 April 2017 20:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

It's pretty disappointing either way.

Austin, Monday, 17 April 2017 20:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

I don't think so. This album is pretty good for them. They have always been a pretty average mediocre band and this album just continues in that vein. Absolutely ok to listen to just for nostalgia. There have been so many bad reunion albums, this one isn't.

Alex in Spree-Athen (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:10 (seven months ago) Permalink


they are an amazing band, this album is terrible

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

I don't think it's terrible, but it is pretty mediocre and definitely inessential. I was tempted to see them live the other week but I'd've had to rearrange work to do it and after listening to the new album decided not to bother.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 20:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

I saw them a few times in their psychocandy days, I'm not going now, no need.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

The Wiltern, Hollywood, CA 5/19/2017:

April Skies
Head On
Far Gone and Out
Between Planets
Blues From a Gun
Always Sad
Mood Rider
Teenage Lust
Cherry Came Too
The Hardest Walk
All Things Pass
Some Candy Talking
Halfway to Crazy
Nine Million Rainy Days

Black and Blues
The Two of Us
Just Like Honey
You Trip Me Up
The Living End
War on Peace

Encore 2:
Taste of Cindy
I Hate Rock 'n' Roll

Bee OK, Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:01 (six months ago) Permalink

"Reverence" was probably the best:

Bee OK, Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:02 (six months ago) Permalink

I was also at this show and they fucking ruled, just look at that playlist. The opening band, Warlocks, were also a pleasant surprise.

Blue Room, Sunday, 21 May 2017 05:26 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

pleasantly surprised at the new lp (whereas the slowdive one bought at the same time hasn't grabbed me yet). lots of dumb lyrics in the later songs, but hey...

they are playing the forum (town and country / o2) kentish town on sept 20th, 27 years to the month since i saw them there with the telescopes and the fury things. (31 + 4.5 + 2.5 quid though)

koogs, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:01 (three months ago) Permalink

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