einstuerzende neubauten: classic or dud?

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just wondering what people think:
einstuerzende neubauten: classic or dud?

kali devi, Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic. Some hills and valleys in the quality department, but there is truly no one like them.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

cllllllllllllllllllllllllllassssicc

astroblaster (astroblaster), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

they put the ass in classic.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

also classic because my guitar teacher started yelling at me when I brought in a cassette of Drawings Of OT for a guitar lesson when I was 14.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:46 (sixteen years ago) link

"ICH BINS!"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

classic and anyone who tells you different should be fitted with a cast iron trucker hat filled with hot coals.

your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 14 September 2003 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

They could beat the shit out of Nitzer Ebb in a fistfight, that's for sure.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 14 September 2003 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I was finally going to get to see Blixa this year, but he left the Bad Seeds right before the tour started...to which I say DUD!

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 14 September 2003 06:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't listen to the early noisiest stuff except 2 x 4 which is classic as fuck. Haus Der Luege, Ende Neu = classic and I need to hear the rest.

sucka (sucka), Sunday, 14 September 2003 07:12 (sixteen years ago) link

classic! their new stuff is great also

i interviewed blixa two weeks ago -- he's a really nice guy!

geeta, Sunday, 14 September 2003 07:43 (sixteen years ago) link

love the earliest stuff, Strategien 80-83 is my fav release. they were great all the way through to Tabula Rasa, kicks the shit out of PTV, Coil and the Cabs' attempts at conventionality from the same time. Blixa's voice has since morphed into that of my old German teacher :(.

fcussen (Burger), Sunday, 14 September 2003 07:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Almost great but for Blixa's inexcusably weedy voice

Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 14 September 2003 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Almost great but for Blixa's inexcusably weedy voice


??!!!!?? - are you insane?

stirmonster, Sunday, 14 September 2003 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

yes he is.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 14 September 2003 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link

No he's not.

Herbstmute (Wintermute), Sunday, 14 September 2003 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I did a project on Einstürzende Neubaten for German when I was about fourteen, without ever hearing anything by them. Still haven't heard a note of their stuff, but now I know that they lived in a bunker and hit pieces of metal together!

cis (cis), Sunday, 14 September 2003 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic all the way. I was initially bewildered when Tabula Rasa came out (ie. suspicions of selling out arose in my 15-year old mind), but since then I've grown to rate their second period stuff as truly class. Silence is Sexy and the 3rd Strategies vs Architecture are both pretty essential.

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Monday, 15 September 2003 07:22 (sixteen years ago) link

tabula rasa is the nuts! can't stand that "by numbers" attitude where harder than thou chaps get all "oh (condescension) it's really only the early stuff that has any validity" balls!

bob snoom, Monday, 15 September 2003 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i think that blixa needs to give up on
1) english lyrics
2) that pathetic little weezy "scream"--it works when you are 20, not 40+!
3) suits that do not fit
otherwise--moments of classic, currently dud.
fm einheit--now there's a perpetual classic!

creative, Monday, 15 September 2003 10:57 (sixteen years ago) link

2) that pathetic little weezy "scream"--it works when you are 20, not 40+!

It didn't work when he was 20 either, I think this proves I'm not insane. He's weedy alright, almost as weedy William Bennett, ha ha.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 15 September 2003 12:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Totally agree on Blixa's English lyrics, and especially his own translations of his German lyrics -- his German lyrics are written with such a high level of sophistication, efficiency, and beauty that it's embarassing (but typically German) that he thinks his tortured English syntax is clever wordplay.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 15 September 2003 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link

i think that blixa needs to give up on
1) english lyrics
2) that pathetic little weezy "scream"--it works when you are 20, not 40+!
3) suits that do not fit

I cannot agree with no. 3.

OleM (OleM), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

OleM:
those suits, with bad vests that accentuate his mid-age spread/alcoholic paunch, are hideous! hello--stripes don't work for that guy! and they are not tailored, they make him look like he's wearing diapers. and i think he only has about 3.
Bloody hell, man! if you want to look like Nick Cave, at least invest in a tailor!!!!!!!!

creative, Monday, 15 September 2003 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

jordache

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 15 September 2003 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

(classic)

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 15 September 2003 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

It didn't work when he was 20 either, I think this proves I'm not insane.
Yes you are. his voice is inimitable!

gravitater, Wednesday, 17 September 2003 12:24 (fifteen years ago) link

indeed, that wailing, backed with some suggestive whipping, is fantastic on 'Seele Brennt'!

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Klasique.

Even better that Blixa would also be a Bad Seed.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I ranked them amongst my favourite bands when I was 17-19 or so. Actually they were reasonably popular with this crowd of people I knew in Gr 13. I didn't have that many classes that year. We watched a lot of anime, talked really pretentiously about politics, philosophy, and physics (Was I really genuinely interested in science at that age?! I can't even say for sure now.), I read a lot of Ursula Le Guin; there was a lot of Neubauten going around. I listened to SAA2 and Tabula Rasa on my Walkman a lot on spares. I thought they were totally intense and cathartic. I worshipped "Thirsty Animal", that ultra-severe track with Lydia Lunch and Rowland S Howard. The vocals are surely amongst the least 'weedy' of any postpunk vocals - I'm surprised by that comment.

I honestly haven't listened to them in years. Within some time of the initial infatuation, I more or less found them to be inconsistent and often dull. I mostly just haven't been in the mood to listen to that clunky, lugubrious sound in ages. If I was to pick a track to put on now it would be "Kalte Sternen" (it's pretty and catchy) or "Headcleaner".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

"but now I know that they lived in a bunker and hit pieces of metal together!" that alone is a hint to their classic status. worthy of worship for "silence is sexy" alone.

Felcher (Felcher), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

jordache!

Classic, classic, classic.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

The vocals are surely amongst the least 'weedy' of any postpunk vocals - I'm surprised by that comment.

Maybe not weedy so much as aiming for intensity and power and falling well short of it and sounding like someone throwing a tantrum instead (see William Bennett)

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

besides neu! and fehlfarben the only truly classic german band in my book. their later albums are pretty inessential though. my fave lyrics line by blixa:

nagel mein herz an ein fensterkreuz (nail my heart onto the crossbar)

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i recently got a copy of their "supporters album #1"--from neubauten.org
not only was it defective, but it was the most boring, infantile thing i've heard in ages...songs about drinking green tea with bags blixa remembered to bring on a trip, songs telling me that my dead friends live around the corner, and songs polluted with a whining bargeld's wheeze. he sounds like an alcoholic about to croak, and the arrangements suck, too.
once a classic band, now i giantic dud.

ironic, Friday, 19 September 2003 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

(Alex: Can not classic?)

Half Man from 1984 is the album I will treasure; the late-'90s stuff was interesting but not as exciting, and haven't seen/heard them since...

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 20 September 2003 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
I saw them at the Commodore last night. My partner's friend had extra tickets, and neither of us were too into it, but she'd get to see a bunch of people she hadn't hung around with in years; basically, the Vancouver chapter of the fan club. So, we went, and were happy for it. What a damn fun band.

derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic.

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Very very classic... Last album is one of their best, although I don't listen to it as often as I should..

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Thursday, 6 May 2004 05:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Silence is Sexy bored the pants off me. Less yappin', more zappin'.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 May 2004 06:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Just "Classic"?!?!? You can do better than that, Kaliflwr. If I asked you this question, I'd get a 40k rant about the exact quality of Blixa's screaming - is it more "boiled cats" or is it more "howling like a man whose rectum has been packed with fire ants".

Super-Kate (kate), Thursday, 6 May 2004 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Er, more like "aging alcohlolic wheeze from a washed up, bulging middle-aged man who's realized that the Bad Seeds money has long since slid down the drain". The Great Bargain Bin Im Himmel beckons, Herr Emmerlich.

Ende Neu.

Adelia, Thursday, 6 May 2004 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link

You sound like me

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 May 2004 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...
let's try this description.. a dog gets hit by a car and someone throws acid on it..
good enough.
anyway- they're classic. so classic, in fact, that i was listening to it not 4 hours ago.

AscheDjidoi, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

clizzasic.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I walked past the building that they took their name from in Berlin without realising it at the time.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
they were classic, but their obsession with polishing their sound in the studio over the last 10 years has exposed weaknesses. for instance the studio version of nnnaaammm is dull as batshit and irritating, whereas the live version captures alot of the energy they are famous for.
still, in their day (or decade) they were so good it's unexplainable.

hibernating bear, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Little boy has angst ... must listen to weedy Germans wheeze, whine and bang.

Can understand why 12-15 year-olds would say "classic", but it's harder to comprehend the notion of adults (17 and up) giving this codswollop the time of day (at least not without extreme embarrassment).

Then again, arrested development is the coin of the realm, ain't it?

P, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I disagree.

The music of, say, "Vanadium I-Ching" is the product of a quite focused and disciplined attention to objects and sounds, and the structure of the piece is pretty far removed from any kind of childish tantrum. The entrance of musical lines was determined by a temporal map of cracks in a piece of metal; this kind of conceptual compositional strategy seems pretty coolly analytic and controlled to me.

Drew Daniel, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...
This in my inbox today:

On February 20th, the ICA will stage a Re-enactment of the now-legendary ICA performance, Einstürzende Neubauten’s ‘Concerto for voice and machine.’ The original event took place in 1984 when it was seen as a reaction against music as an easily and readily commodifiable package and industry in post-punk conservative Britain. The event comprised of cacophonous but orchestrated noise and destruction with industrial machinery and tools being used to drill holes in the stage of the ICA and was called to a halt after 21 minutes when ICA technicians turned off the power! On February 20th, emerging young artist Jo Mitchell will direct the re-enactment of this seminal event in an attempt to highlight the gap between the real and the represented and to question notions of expectation, consensus and the conventions of (the different) times.

a nuclear-powered carrot (braveclub), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 11:43 (twelve years ago) link

wow, is that available through normal channels or is this another website/supporter release?

I also have not heard anything past Perpetuum. Somebody on another thread was extolling their supporter's club deal, it seemed interesting.

sleeve, Sunday, 21 October 2007 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Lol "Genre: downtempo"

baaderonixx, Sunday, 21 October 2007 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

I've never heard these guys but they sound like something I like. How are they, compared to like, early Cabaret Voltaire or Throbbing Gristle?

filthy dylan, Monday, 22 October 2007 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

more visceral, you need this stuff.

sleeve, Monday, 22 October 2007 05:37 (eleven years ago) link

Apropos of sod-all, Dingsaller is bloody fantastic.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 22 October 2007 05:40 (eleven years ago) link

Please tell me you posted that to a rolling country thread, xhuxk.

Sundar, Monday, 22 October 2007 07:21 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Turns out this album hasn't reconciled me with them. Impressive but ultimately a bit boring.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

okay this is pretty cool and then at 4:30 AW YEAH

stick around for blixa's covergirl moment

Edward III, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 01:47 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

US leg of 30th anniversary tour cancelled

It is with great regret that Einstürzende Neubauten announce the cancellation of their planned thirtieth anniversary appearances in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Toronto and New York. While the U.S. Department of Homeland Security did issue approvals for the band’s visas, it was not done in time to secure the appointments at the overseas embassies and consulates that represent the necessary final step in the process.

The band members are tremendously disappointed by this turn of events and wish to thank all those fans who purchased tickets for these performances for their support. The band would have loved to do the tour and meet their overseas fans. Because this tour was a time-sensitive production, it will not be rescheduled. Ticket holders can obtain refunds from their point of purchase.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 29 November 2010 23:17 (eight years ago) link

poop! i was really looking forward to seeing them. i'm especially miffed that it won't even be rescheduled.

borntohula, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:51 (eight years ago) link

may as well mention how great the ANBB album Blixa has done with Alva Noto is, its probably my favourite album at the moment

straightola, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:07 (eight years ago) link

seven years pass...

I've been listening to the recordings of the latest tour (they are doing the Grateful Dead recording every show and selling soundboard USBs at the end of the night) and they are so so so so tight and the setlists are so so so so amazing right now. The world's best live band. Whoever said Blixa needs to stop the inhale scream and wearing suits upthread 15 years ago is a fucking idiot.

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 22 December 2017 16:17 (one year ago) link

jesus christ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxyWStLB0z0

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 22 December 2017 20:15 (one year ago) link

<3 <3 <3 bookmarking for later

Ende Neu tour I saw in 1998 remains one of my top ten concert experiences

sleeve, Friday, 22 December 2017 20:29 (one year ago) link

I saw them four times over the years: in 1989 in a tiny club in L.A., in 1990 at the (new) Ritz on 54th Street, in 1993 at Roseland, and in 2000 (I think) at Irving Plaza. Always fantastic, but the 1989 and 1993 shows were the life-changing ones.

And thanks to this thread's revival reminding me of their existence, I just bought a very rare (so rare it's not even listed on Discogs) Japanese 3CD set that contains Strategies Against Architecture Vols. I and II on eBay.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 23 December 2017 02:33 (one year ago) link

Saw them for the first time on the Ende Neu tour in London, it was incredible and have tried to see them every time they've rolled around since, that YouTube concert is fantastic but man, the illuminated perimeter of the stage is like some Trypohobic nightmare.

MaresNest, Saturday, 23 December 2017 11:00 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

So despite having invented crowdfunding 20 years ago, they're now doing the next Supporter's Project on Patreon:

https://supporter.neubauten.org/

Yes, yes, grumble moan about Patreon being terrible if you're outside the US, but there are some wonderful perks. The usual webcasts and online shenanigans (TIL that German guitarists use Vah-Vah pedals, which is what I will always call them from now on!) - a proper album in April 2020, but also downloads and 7"s of spontaneous 'Jewels' and Dave projects.

And this is the kicker - they're digitising Blixa's enormous collection of 80s cassettes, rarities, rough mixes, live soundboard recordings from the early days, source material tapes, field recordings - and they will be making downloads of that material available to supporters. Some of the tracklists they've teased are just o_0 amazing.

Anyway, I've seen almost nothing about this floating about online - so if you know anyone who would be salivating over this sort of thing, please pass it on? Cheers!

Einstürzende NEU!bauten (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:52 (three months ago) link

Weedy scream, why I oughta... saw them only last year, and at 60, Blixavoice is still powerful enough to shake building foundations. So there.

Einstürzende NEU!bauten (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:53 (three months ago) link

http://www.drinkswithtony.com/ep-16-hackedepicciotto-and-blixa-bargeld/
THis was interesting Alex hacke and partner talking for an hour about various things including her 2 books. Followed by a 2007 interview with Blixa.

Stevolende, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:57 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

there is a breathing, pulsing quality to silence is sexy that is deeply satisfying

j., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 03:25 (two weeks ago) link

i saw them in 1987 at the olof palme festival near munich. they were drilling and making other not so funny sounds. they were better than the awful toten hosen. i was pissed out of my head at that festival. but i must say that i never became a fan. later on i bought "das haus der lüge" which was less abrasive and i kind of loved it. blixa bargeld is a strange guy. my fave lyrics by him:"nagel mein herz ans fensterkreuz", ie "nail my heart at the crossbar of the window". it says a lot about him.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 19:51 (two weeks ago) link

I wouldn't call Blixa strange particularly. Perhaps the strangest thing about him is his career trajectory from emaciated, hollow-cheeked metal-basher into portly, three-piece-suit-wearing respected literary figure about whose writing conference papers are now given. He's a highly intelligent, cultured and charming man but he doesn't suffer fools gladly.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:14 (two weeks ago) link

xxp I once saw Blixa do an amazing solo set based entirely around his voice and a loop pedal, I am really feeling that description

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:16 (two weeks ago) link

also, Neubauten on the Tabula Rasa tour was one of the best shows I have ever seen in my life

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:16 (two weeks ago) link

I spent an hour with him for Alternative Press in 2002 or so and he was like a cross between Bryan Ferry and Hannibal Lecter. One of the most fun interviews I've ever done.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:19 (two weeks ago) link

i put them on one time and was about to go in the dressing room but overheard him shouting at the other members about (i presume) how badly they had played (i hadn't noticed anything amiss and had thought they had been wonderful). he is very scary when angry.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:07 (two weeks ago) link

Blixa can, in a good mood, be very sweet and thoughtful? He recently sat down and patiently explained all of his favourite Kraftwerk albums to me, which was really quite above and beyond. I'm vaguely terrified of him, but he's actually lovely?

One of the things I've noticed about him is that he is just naturally an incredibly LOUD human being, even in his default mode, he seems like he's shouting. So if he's irritated, the irritation seems much more magnified by the volume. But him refusing to suffer fools is often when he is at his wittiest. (So long as you're not the target.) There's no putdown quite like a Blixa putdown.

I'm quite sad that the current supporter's project isn't getting any attention at all. They're still doing some really wonderful and pleasing work - funnily enough, the almost-throwaway "Dave" experiments have been resulting in some of the most enjoyable and playful, freeform, almost surreal tracks.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:06 (one week ago) link

That is very interest8nbg.

stirmonster, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:18 (one week ago) link

That is very interesting. Perhaps when I encoutered him then he wasn't actually angry at all.

stirmonster, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:19 (one week ago) link

No, I mean, he also can be scarily, incandescently angry - and the volume combined with the rapier-sharp wit makes that terrifying.

But he's also kind of weirdly (almost childishly) excitable. Which is unexpected in someone with a reputation for being so icy uber-cool. So I do think that sometimes "Blixa shouting loudly in German" is read as him being angry, when he's just begeistert and laut?

But he really, really does not suffer fools gladly. (Which is why I'm so terrified of him - I'm 110% fool.)

Branwell with an N, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:24 (one week ago) link

I don't know when I became such a Captain Save-A-Prussian. I just love him, OK?

Branwell with an N, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:25 (one week ago) link

Go on then, I'm curious – how come you sat down with Blixa for a chat?

I'm a massive EN fan but I don't care much for this supporter thing, I just want to buy the finished record. The earlier supporter projects weren't very interesting to me either as they seemed to include the possibility of creative input to the album from supporters, whereas I thought they should have been making the record free from that kind of influence. Interestingly, they seem to have dropped that aspect from the current supporter project.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 6 September 2019 12:56 (one week ago) link

It's interesting that you didn't consider, that perhaps the very thing you're disparaging as totally "not your thing" in the second paragraph, is the exact answer to your question in the first.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 6 September 2019 13:53 (one week ago) link

So what are his favorites Kraftwerk albums?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 6 September 2019 14:20 (one week ago) link

Well, I assumed that your conversation with him was face-to-face, and face-to-face meetings are not part of the supporter rewards, but maybe it was via video.

xp

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 6 September 2019 14:23 (one week ago) link

He said he was a huge fan, growing up, loved them from the first 2 albums all the way through to Die Mensch Maschine (after that he said they lost him). But the two releases he particularly singled out were Ralf und Florian and the Kometenmelodie single (with a cute story about combing all of West Berlin to find it! Sign of a true Kraftwerk nerd, tracking down that one.)

Branwell with an N, Friday, 6 September 2019 14:38 (one week ago) link

Love taht Kometnenmelodie traclk. Wish I hadn't lost the Exceller 8 lp which was my introduction to the early years, probably lost it at the same time as the Van Der Graaf generator cover double lp of the first 2 lps which I picked up several years later come to think of things.
Exceller 8 was an amalagam of the first 3 or 4 lps . I think a couple of things were edited.

Think you can hear some echoes of that early stuff in early EN longside Pink Floyd. Kollaps has a backcover that seems to be a tribute to the back sleeve of Ummagumma

Stevolende, Friday, 6 September 2019 15:24 (one week ago) link

ha, I never thought about that cover connection!

sleeve, Friday, 6 September 2019 15:25 (one week ago) link

Hahaha, I had not noticed that, but yeah. Dude clearly had a Floyd stage. For a Punque Rocke Icon (tm) he has such dirty dronerock boy taste in music. He loves him some NEU! too.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 6 September 2019 16:56 (one week ago) link

Kollaps has a backcover that seems to be a tribute to the back sleeve of Ummagumma

That was the first thing I thought when I saw it!

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:01 (one week ago) link

it's funny because the one time I met Blixa he was just sitting placidly noodling at a piano, and I had come into the rehearsal studio to unlock a cabinet for another member of the ensemble (not neubauten, an experimental classical thing)

sarahell, Friday, 6 September 2019 20:57 (one week ago) link

also since this thread is active -- here's a link to a new(ish) documentary featuring neubauten

https://www.desolationcenter.com/

sarahell, Friday, 6 September 2019 20:59 (one week ago) link

So apparently during their Musterhaus phase, they attempted to entirely cover Ummagumma from memory, or play along with the record, or something stupid and ridiculous like that?

It's been really really edifying, watching them work, because you can see that they are experimental, in the sense of trying out all kinda of wild and wacky shit just to see what happens. And some of it really, really works and sounds amazing (they had a day where all of them decided to play metal springs of various shapes and sizes, which sounded fantasic, like really wild dub) and some of it just patently doesn't work - but you can't tell in advance which is going to be which?

They manage to keep a sense of playfulness and spontaneity - sometimes they're like goofy, excitable children in the studio as often as they're Serious Prussian Musicians Playing With Precision - where so many bands of their generation or type just became so po-faced and tedious and wank. Which, unfortunately, doesn't always come across on the Official Finished Records, but is much more apparent in the webcasts, the Daves (which turned up in compilation on The Jewels - the re-release of which really rekindled my interest in the band) and the supporter-only stuff. Which is why it's worth it for me, being a supporter, because the random stuff they produce when they're not working to produce The Official Album is a lot more fun and a lot more interesting.

Branwell with an N, Saturday, 7 September 2019 09:53 (one week ago) link

Blixa has been playing guitar again, which is... a treat.

He was really cute about it, too. They said he bought a guitar - which surprised him as much as it surprised us - and we were all very disbelieving. We kept being told about this guitar Blixa was buying, and I kept going "I don't believe you, pics or it didn't happen" and then 24 hours later this picture mysteriously appeared:

https://66.media.tumblr.com/e2b635f2f189da499f08fd8632a75963/tumblr_ps6fi6l9Ly1rjw8sqo1_1280.pnj

He is such an adorkable cutie, LOOKIT MY KOOL SPACEROCK GUITAR then he went in the studio and ran it through 8000 wibbling delay pedals and I was in heaven.

Branwell with an N, Saturday, 7 September 2019 10:05 (one week ago) link

Did he get anywhere with learning pedal steel guitar? I heard he was trying to learn back around the mid 00ies.

Stevolende, Saturday, 7 September 2019 10:13 (one week ago) link

I really want a CD of The Jewels, thanks for the reminder

sleeve, Saturday, 7 September 2019 19:54 (one week ago) link

So apparently during their Musterhaus phase, they attempted to entirely cover Ummagumma from memory, or play along with the record, or something stupid and ridiculous like that?

So someone somewhere must have a recording of them doing "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict"?

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:14 (one week ago) link

JUst seen this for the first time, is it well known?
https://neubautenshrimpscampi.tumblr.com/image/115381123404
are EN well know bronies?

Stevolende, Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:54 (one week ago) link

https://neubautenshrimpscampi.tumblr.com/image/115381123404
is what i was trying to post

Stevolende, Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:54 (one week ago) link


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