einstuerzende neubauten: classic or dud?

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just wondering what people think:
einstuerzende neubauten: classic or dud?

kali devi, Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. Some hills and valleys in the quality department, but there is truly no one like them.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

cllllllllllllllllllllllllllassssicc

astroblaster (astroblaster), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

they put the ass in classic.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

also classic because my guitar teacher started yelling at me when I brought in a cassette of Drawings Of OT for a guitar lesson when I was 14.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

"ICH BINS!"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

classic and anyone who tells you different should be fitted with a cast iron trucker hat filled with hot coals.

your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 14 September 2003 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link

They could beat the shit out of Nitzer Ebb in a fistfight, that's for sure.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 14 September 2003 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I was finally going to get to see Blixa this year, but he left the Bad Seeds right before the tour started...to which I say DUD!

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 14 September 2003 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't listen to the early noisiest stuff except 2 x 4 which is classic as fuck. Haus Der Luege, Ende Neu = classic and I need to hear the rest.

sucka (sucka), Sunday, 14 September 2003 07:12 (eighteen years ago) link

classic! their new stuff is great also

i interviewed blixa two weeks ago -- he's a really nice guy!

geeta, Sunday, 14 September 2003 07:43 (eighteen years ago) link

love the earliest stuff, Strategien 80-83 is my fav release. they were great all the way through to Tabula Rasa, kicks the shit out of PTV, Coil and the Cabs' attempts at conventionality from the same time. Blixa's voice has since morphed into that of my old German teacher :(.

fcussen (Burger), Sunday, 14 September 2003 07:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Almost great but for Blixa's inexcusably weedy voice

Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 14 September 2003 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Almost great but for Blixa's inexcusably weedy voice


??!!!!?? - are you insane?

stirmonster, Sunday, 14 September 2003 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

yes he is.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 14 September 2003 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

No he's not.

Herbstmute (Wintermute), Sunday, 14 September 2003 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I did a project on Einstürzende Neubaten for German when I was about fourteen, without ever hearing anything by them. Still haven't heard a note of their stuff, but now I know that they lived in a bunker and hit pieces of metal together!

cis (cis), Sunday, 14 September 2003 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic all the way. I was initially bewildered when Tabula Rasa came out (ie. suspicions of selling out arose in my 15-year old mind), but since then I've grown to rate their second period stuff as truly class. Silence is Sexy and the 3rd Strategies vs Architecture are both pretty essential.

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Monday, 15 September 2003 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

tabula rasa is the nuts! can't stand that "by numbers" attitude where harder than thou chaps get all "oh (condescension) it's really only the early stuff that has any validity" balls!

bob snoom, Monday, 15 September 2003 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

i think that blixa needs to give up on
1) english lyrics
2) that pathetic little weezy "scream"--it works when you are 20, not 40+!
3) suits that do not fit
otherwise--moments of classic, currently dud.
fm einheit--now there's a perpetual classic!

creative, Monday, 15 September 2003 10:57 (eighteen years ago) link

2) that pathetic little weezy "scream"--it works when you are 20, not 40+!

It didn't work when he was 20 either, I think this proves I'm not insane. He's weedy alright, almost as weedy William Bennett, ha ha.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 15 September 2003 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Totally agree on Blixa's English lyrics, and especially his own translations of his German lyrics -- his German lyrics are written with such a high level of sophistication, efficiency, and beauty that it's embarassing (but typically German) that he thinks his tortured English syntax is clever wordplay.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 15 September 2003 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i think that blixa needs to give up on
1) english lyrics
2) that pathetic little weezy "scream"--it works when you are 20, not 40+!
3) suits that do not fit

I cannot agree with no. 3.

OleM (OleM), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

OleM:
those suits, with bad vests that accentuate his mid-age spread/alcoholic paunch, are hideous! hello--stripes don't work for that guy! and they are not tailored, they make him look like he's wearing diapers. and i think he only has about 3.
Bloody hell, man! if you want to look like Nick Cave, at least invest in a tailor!!!!!!!!

creative, Monday, 15 September 2003 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

jordache

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 15 September 2003 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

(classic)

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 15 September 2003 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

It didn't work when he was 20 either, I think this proves I'm not insane.
Yes you are. his voice is inimitable!

gravitater, Wednesday, 17 September 2003 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

indeed, that wailing, backed with some suggestive whipping, is fantastic on 'Seele Brennt'!

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Klasique.

Even better that Blixa would also be a Bad Seed.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I ranked them amongst my favourite bands when I was 17-19 or so. Actually they were reasonably popular with this crowd of people I knew in Gr 13. I didn't have that many classes that year. We watched a lot of anime, talked really pretentiously about politics, philosophy, and physics (Was I really genuinely interested in science at that age?! I can't even say for sure now.), I read a lot of Ursula Le Guin; there was a lot of Neubauten going around. I listened to SAA2 and Tabula Rasa on my Walkman a lot on spares. I thought they were totally intense and cathartic. I worshipped "Thirsty Animal", that ultra-severe track with Lydia Lunch and Rowland S Howard. The vocals are surely amongst the least 'weedy' of any postpunk vocals - I'm surprised by that comment.

I honestly haven't listened to them in years. Within some time of the initial infatuation, I more or less found them to be inconsistent and often dull. I mostly just haven't been in the mood to listen to that clunky, lugubrious sound in ages. If I was to pick a track to put on now it would be "Kalte Sternen" (it's pretty and catchy) or "Headcleaner".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"but now I know that they lived in a bunker and hit pieces of metal together!" that alone is a hint to their classic status. worthy of worship for "silence is sexy" alone.

Felcher (Felcher), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

jordache!

Classic, classic, classic.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link

The vocals are surely amongst the least 'weedy' of any postpunk vocals - I'm surprised by that comment.

Maybe not weedy so much as aiming for intensity and power and falling well short of it and sounding like someone throwing a tantrum instead (see William Bennett)

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link

besides neu! and fehlfarben the only truly classic german band in my book. their later albums are pretty inessential though. my fave lyrics line by blixa:

nagel mein herz an ein fensterkreuz (nail my heart onto the crossbar)

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i recently got a copy of their "supporters album #1"--from neubauten.org
not only was it defective, but it was the most boring, infantile thing i've heard in ages...songs about drinking green tea with bags blixa remembered to bring on a trip, songs telling me that my dead friends live around the corner, and songs polluted with a whining bargeld's wheeze. he sounds like an alcoholic about to croak, and the arrangements suck, too.
once a classic band, now i giantic dud.

ironic, Friday, 19 September 2003 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

(Alex: Can not classic?)

Half Man from 1984 is the album I will treasure; the late-'90s stuff was interesting but not as exciting, and haven't seen/heard them since...

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 20 September 2003 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
I saw them at the Commodore last night. My partner's friend had extra tickets, and neither of us were too into it, but she'd get to see a bunch of people she hadn't hung around with in years; basically, the Vancouver chapter of the fan club. So, we went, and were happy for it. What a damn fun band.

derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic.

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Very very classic... Last album is one of their best, although I don't listen to it as often as I should..

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Thursday, 6 May 2004 05:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Silence is Sexy bored the pants off me. Less yappin', more zappin'.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 May 2004 06:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Just "Classic"?!?!? You can do better than that, Kaliflwr. If I asked you this question, I'd get a 40k rant about the exact quality of Blixa's screaming - is it more "boiled cats" or is it more "howling like a man whose rectum has been packed with fire ants".

Super-Kate (kate), Thursday, 6 May 2004 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, more like "aging alcohlolic wheeze from a washed up, bulging middle-aged man who's realized that the Bad Seeds money has long since slid down the drain". The Great Bargain Bin Im Himmel beckons, Herr Emmerlich.

Ende Neu.

Adelia, Thursday, 6 May 2004 10:33 (eighteen years ago) link

You sound like me

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 May 2004 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
let's try this description.. a dog gets hit by a car and someone throws acid on it..
good enough.
anyway- they're classic. so classic, in fact, that i was listening to it not 4 hours ago.

AscheDjidoi, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

clizzasic.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I walked past the building that they took their name from in Berlin without realising it at the time.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
they were classic, but their obsession with polishing their sound in the studio over the last 10 years has exposed weaknesses. for instance the studio version of nnnaaammm is dull as batshit and irritating, whereas the live version captures alot of the energy they are famous for.
still, in their day (or decade) they were so good it's unexplainable.

hibernating bear, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Little boy has angst ... must listen to weedy Germans wheeze, whine and bang.

Can understand why 12-15 year-olds would say "classic", but it's harder to comprehend the notion of adults (17 and up) giving this codswollop the time of day (at least not without extreme embarrassment).

Then again, arrested development is the coin of the realm, ain't it?

P, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I disagree.

The music of, say, "Vanadium I-Ching" is the product of a quite focused and disciplined attention to objects and sounds, and the structure of the piece is pretty far removed from any kind of childish tantrum. The entrance of musical lines was determined by a temporal map of cracks in a piece of metal; this kind of conceptual compositional strategy seems pretty coolly analytic and controlled to me.

Drew Daniel, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
This in my inbox today:

On February 20th, the ICA will stage a Re-enactment of the now-legendary ICA performance, Einstürzende Neubauten’s ‘Concerto for voice and machine.’ The original event took place in 1984 when it was seen as a reaction against music as an easily and readily commodifiable package and industry in post-punk conservative Britain. The event comprised of cacophonous but orchestrated noise and destruction with industrial machinery and tools being used to drill holes in the stage of the ICA and was called to a halt after 21 minutes when ICA technicians turned off the power! On February 20th, emerging young artist Jo Mitchell will direct the re-enactment of this seminal event in an attempt to highlight the gap between the real and the represented and to question notions of expectation, consensus and the conventions of (the different) times.

a nuclear-powered carrot (braveclub), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

xp to Branwell: the problem with that approach is that hardcore fans and Supporters are not necessarily the same group of people. I've been a massive EN fan for many years and have all the Proper Albums but, as mentioned upthread, I have no desire to take part in their supporter projects (that's not a diss on those like you who do, different strokes for different folks). I infinitely prefer the curated, polished final work to the raw, provisional, open-ended Supporter releases; I found both Grundstück and Jewels to be really heavy going and have no desire to ever hear them again.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 14:05 (two years ago) link

We can spend all day arguing about who is a 'hardcore fan' versus who is a 'supporter' because, come on.

But at the end of the day, you might be surprised to find that a band with such a rich DIY history are simply more interested in meeting the needs of the fans who *are* willing to engage with them, and support them, and come along for the ride, and participate in the experience, than they are in so-called 'hardcore fans'... who will not.

And I'm grateful for that.

Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 14:18 (two years ago) link

ok

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 14:19 (two years ago) link

I wasn't aware that spending significant amounts of money on EN records, CDs, concert tickets and merch over the years doesn't count as engagement, support and participation, while not taking part in supporter projects renders null my claim to be a hardcore fan, but whatever.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 14:23 (two years ago) link

maybe next time you sit down for a chat with Blixa you can ask him where I stand in the hierarchy of EN fandom

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 14:50 (two years ago) link

I have dipped into their catalog over the years but feel like I haven't found the right starting point(s). And I love lots of 80s industrial! Suggestions?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:08 (two years ago) link

Halber Mensch and Drawings of O.T. were my gateway drugs

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:10 (two years ago) link

already got tickets, very excited, and I didn't actually know there was a new album coming so that's just a cherry on top. glad to hear they are having more fun with the work. saw them on the Ende Neu tour a little over 20 years ago and it was just fantastic, all time concert experience.

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:11 (two years ago) link

The Strategies Against Architecture series of compilation albums gives you a pretty good overview of the earlier years, while the ironically titled Greatest Hits set from a few years ago is a useful round-up of the later years.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:14 (two years ago) link

Cosign, Strategies I & II are excellent.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:37 (two years ago) link

Yeah Strategies II was my entry point. Plenty of classics not really available elsewhere too

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:49 (two years ago) link

I was a Phase III supporter but felt like the retail release of Jewels was a bit of a kick in the teeth.

I think I knew about this, then forgot about it. Kind of ambivalent about missing out.

Doubling down on out of date information (aldo), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:29 (two years ago) link

In lieu of a general Berlin-based music thread, I thought this was the next best place to park this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjqu59mF7Cc

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:05 (two years ago) link

So the first digital single will be out at the start of April. (Probably Ten Grand Goldie - which will be very interesting, as that's the one that the supporters had the most input into (quite literally.))

I've also heard that they're going to be doing a deal to get their entire back catalogue onto Spotify, which will be grand - half of it is under the Stevo Curse, half of it is just missing, and bits and bobs have turned up piecemeal over the years - so getting the whole thing in one place will quite an accomplishment.

Yes, there will be a box set for the collectors. With vinyl and CDs and a full colour glossy book and a film and bits and bobs (and LOL @ who they let do the liner notes!)

Might be going into Neubauten overload for the next few months, but I'm really excited! It's been such a surprise to discover how playful Blixa is.

::tosses a glitterbomb into thread:: HURRAH!

Branwell with an N, Friday, 6 March 2020 09:51 (two years ago) link

Are the Potomak cds still available. & did they cover all of the first major lineup's material?
Not sure if they needed to go beyond chung and mufti leaving cos I think they may have had more control of their catalogue beyond there.

Stevolende, Friday, 6 March 2020 10:06 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Glittery make-up, flower crowns and the return of SHOPPING TROLLEY in the new video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nz9t_4XLcc

^^^probably one of the most evocative and salient songs of the album, but gives a general idea of the hauntingly elegant and elegiac mood.

Album is out on the 15th. I know distribution is... tricky at the moment, but they've finally come round to digital streaming, and it will be on all the major streaming platforms, too. (I'm just hoping the whole postal system holds together long enough for the box set to get here!)

Branwell with an N, Saturday, 2 May 2020 07:55 (two years ago) link

It's a nice song, but it's made me realize that I don't want to grow old with Einstürzende Neubauten. Their elegiac phase does not speak to me. I miss the EN of roughly 1980-1992, even knowing that I came to them relatively late (didn't see them live until 1989, but saw them four times in four years - 1989, twice in 1990, and again in 1992). That's the group I love - the manic, junk-smashing, power-drill-shrieking, dropping-an-anvil-through-a-concert-hall-stage EN. I'm glad they're still out there, still making work that speaks to them and to others, but I'm never gonna feel about anything after Tabula Rasa the way I feel about the stuff from their first dozen years.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:30 (two years ago) link

"Ten Grand Goldie," the other new song released so far, is much closer to what I was hoping for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIjTHkN21Zo

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 May 2020 13:57 (two years ago) link

I quite like 10 Grand Goldie, more than most of what I've heard from them over the last 20 years, but nothing really new to be honest.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:41 (two years ago) link

So this has leaked and is sounding pretty great so far. "Zivilisatorisches Missgeschick" is amazing.

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:58 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I've heard the whole thing now and it's really good. Probably gonna review it somewhere.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:00 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Re-homing this, from an inappropriate thread on ILE:

Neubauten just released a newer live version of Sehnsucht where Blixa (still currently at 'punch myself in the face' levels of crush) very deliberately sings the untranslateable punning German part of the lyrics in English, going into a chant of "addicted to desire, addicted to desire" which is very much where I'm at regarding crushes. Crushes are a huge source of energy - (I no longer believe they are the only source of energy, but I don't think B does, either any more) - but they are also an addiction. Addictions can both sap and feed one's energy.

Also, Neubauten are in the process of setting up a Bandcamp. They're undecided if they're going to concentrate on older stuff, newer stuff, weirder unavailable stuff (e.g. the Musterhaus era experiments), live stuff (they are sitting on a powderkeg of amazing, well-recorded live material that blows some of the 'official' versions out of the water) or what they're going to do with it.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 07:49 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8OSBMy-940

brimstead, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:00 (one year ago) link

Or lord, a baby Prussian, hasn't changed at all in some ways. Still just a big overenthusiastic puppy! Blixa and their ~album of love songs~ bless your little rubber wellies.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:15 (one year ago) link

I was hoping to see some more reactions to Alles In Allem. Like, I feel like I almost know *too much* about this album, at this point, and I was really hoping to read some more reactions of people coming to it with fresher ears?

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:40 (one year ago) link

It's a funny thing but I feel a time-lag of appreciation with Neubauten's music, some of their records have taken years to sink in, those ones often tend to end up as my favourites.

Lament, for instance, still feels really fresh and detailed and in need of more listening time, which is a bit ridiculous as it's like, 6 years old?

I know it's silly as the music isn't as complex and demanding, especially these days, I think it might just be that they're so significant, culturally speaking, that the longer they roll the more my brain tells me that they need proper attention and not just cursory listening in the car or while reading.

Maresn3st, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:58 (one year ago) link

Lament didn't really fully click for me, until I saw it live and understood it as ~the soundtrack to a theatre piece~ as much as a complete album. I was listening to it as a complete album around the time of all the 1914-1918 WWI centenery stuff, as a very necessary corrective to all the jingoism in my own country, and it worked for that perfectly.

There's a thing with Neubauten albums, where they are often working on multiple levels at once. There's an immediate hit of how the music and mood hits you because they are super talented musicians who communicate emotion through noise really effectively. There's a deeper level as you spend more time with the lyrics (often there's translation involved, and not just translation from German, but understanding Blixa's complex allusions and symbolism). Then there's a whole nother level that takes place on a cultural context level. Levels 2 and 3 can take years!

But that doesn't mean that the enjoyment of listening on level 1 is cursory or invalid or ~bad fandom~. They are still amazing on an "I listened to this and it hit me in my hips and my heart" level. If they *weren't* amazing on that level, no one would ever bother pushing through to the deeper levels.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 09:09 (one year ago) link

I like that they're just a little less graceful and more turbulent these days, around the time of 'Silence is Sexy' and 'Perpetuum Mobile' it came across quite poised and low-key. Although I do really enjoy those records nowadays

It felt like at the gigs I saw around 'Alles Wieder Offen' they came back to life a bit more.

Did you go to the weekend thing they did in 2010-ish? Oh my lord, that Garage gig was so amazing.

Maresn3st, Friday, 7 August 2020 09:45 (one year ago) link

It is to my great regret that I never got to see them before the Lament shows! I know so many people who have had such great experiences at their ~event weekends~ and the like. I wish I had gone to the Garage thing.

The thing is, I actually like Perpetuum Mobile as an album, more than Alles Wieder Offen. It has more of what I like in music - that Perpetuum was really their 'let's do Krautrock' album, musically. But the clue to their attitude was really in the name - Alles Wieder Offen was where they *felt* more open as a band again, where they felt more connected, more engaged, more happy to be ~doing Neubauten~ again? (And The Jewels, the supporters-only album that was the weirder, even more freeform and 'experimental' companion to AWO, is one of my favourite things they have ever done.) They sounded like they were more "back to life" because they were feeling more back to life.

And I know the parallel in the album names is not deliberate (they actually wanted to avoid it) but Alles in Allem is also very much a "back to life" and an opening-up record. I cannot believe how open and how personal Blixa was willing to get on the record. (And Blixa being Blixa, of course people, including myself, were looking for 8 layers of meaning, when on some songs - no, really, it was exactly what they were saying it was.)

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 10:08 (one year ago) link

Anyway, boom tish, it's just gone live:

https://neubauten.bandcamp.com/releases

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 10:47 (one year ago) link

I must get Alles in Allem. I haven't been very good at following Neubauten more recently; it's time to jump in again.

Duke, Friday, 7 August 2020 10:48 (one year ago) link

I mentioned upthread that I was going to review Alles In Allem, but I never posted the link. Here it is. Now off to Bandcamp I go...

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 7 August 2020 12:01 (one year ago) link

25th anniversary concert in Gijon, Spain on April 13, 2005.
credits
released April 13, 2005

bless them for doing this, seriously, but lol this is not how it works

(I'm biased cuz I need release dates to log radio play)

sleeve, Friday, 7 August 2020 13:56 (one year ago) link

How should they be doing it, then?

(This is a serious question, please be gentle with them - they are a bunch of middle-aged Germans who are a bit perplexed by Bandcamp.)

All of their shows got released as CDRs, memory sticks, etc. about 10 minutes after the end of the set, so that they could be sold at the merch table. So that's what they mean by "released" - it was literally available for commercial sale at the merch stand, and on their web store as soon as the show was over.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:00 (one year ago) link

haha I just mean the "release date" should be the day it was uploaded/"released"

if you could actually let someone know, that would be awesome. totally not a big deal, I was just amused, but I really do use the release dates to log "new" plays for licensing $. I want them to get their fractions of pennies!

and again, it's really cool that they are doing this, I will keep my eye on it. would love a lossless copy of The Jewels, for example.

sleeve, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:14 (one year ago) link

(uploaded to Bandcamp, I mean, although yeah if they were available aftershow then it does muddy those waters a bit but afaict Bandcamp treats reissues as having the release date of the reissue not the original)

sleeve, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:16 (one year ago) link

Thanks for the clarification! It's useful information, and I'll pass it on.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:19 (one year ago) link

Gonna give the new one a proper listen over the weekend, might dig out The Jewels too.

Maresn3st, Friday, 7 August 2020 15:59 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQoBph_FTFI

Maresn3st, Saturday, 10 April 2021 21:56 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNR1nGolZVA

Maresn3st, Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:24 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEyaGBSDpiA

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:51 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Halber Mensch time. yes this is my industrial week because there are limits to how much metal I can consume a year even for me.

this is my very first listen.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:03 (one week ago) link

Ohhhh nice, that's a great record.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:10 (one week ago) link

the intro track I coulda listened to for a half hour, if my mother wouldn't have run in screaming

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:12 (one week ago) link

my EN favourite.

so many greats; the title track, der tod ist ein dandy, seele brennt, yu gung, sehnsucht....

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:18 (one week ago) link

the intro track I coulda listened to for a half hour, if my mother wouldn't have run in screaming

amazing!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:18 (one week ago) link

yeah this fucking ruuules. anything percussive and mechanical works for me and this has that in droves.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:24 (one week ago) link

How much of their other music have you heard N?

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:34 (one week ago) link

somewhere between 0 and none

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:35 (one week ago) link

Oh nice, what a journey!

This may be worth your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=posxMfqdgIM

And if you can track down the Liebeslieder documentary also, it's some story.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:38 (one week ago) link


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