Search & Destroy: Sun Ra

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Chin strokers of the universe unite. Search and destroy the cosmic weirdness of Mr.Ra.

Omar, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: Strange Celestial Roads: cosmic jazz-funk in a Sly Stone stylee. Jazz in Silhouette: classic '50s large-band jazz, a la Mingus or Monk. Life is Splended: Live at Ann Arbor Blues & Jazz Festival 1973: one hell of a live electric freak-out (destroy the '72 and '74 albums from the same festival--they don't have anywhere near the spark of this one). Somewhere Else: uneven but featuring a glorious 12-minute "Love in Outer Space" that might be the best thing in his catalogue. Solo Piano: simple, eccentric, beautiful. The Magic City: half-hour title track lives up to its name; the rest is pretty great also. Sun Song: one hell of a repertory company. The Singles: because he really could do everything, albeit weirdly. Greatest Hits: because he really did have, um, "standards." The Great Lost Sun Ra Albums: getting funky a la Miles Davis--and not a la acid jazz (see the massively overrated Lanquidity--or don't). Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy/Art Forms of Dimensions Tomorrow: ambient music lives. When Angels Speak of Love: seat-of-the- pants improv lives.

Destroy: A Black Mass, a super-lo-fi you-are-there-with- earplugs-in document of a 1965 play by Amiri Baraka that Ra and co. improvised music to. Badly.

M. Matos, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Singles collection is probably my favourite.

nathalie, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

'Nothing Is', 'Heliocentric Worlds', 'Atlantis' and 'Languidity' are also great. 'Languidity' is much more Herbie Hancock circa 'Thrust', 'Headhunters' etc, than acid jazz.

I also have the tracks 'Spring and Summer Idyll' and 'Rome at Twilight' as MP3, not sure which LPs they're from, but they're both very good too.

m jemmeson, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Along with Lee "Scratch" Perry and George Clinton, one of the great innovators of black music, at least this is what most critics say... I only own "Greatest hits - easy listening for intergalactic travel" (which is, as the title implies, a "best of", even if the term "hits" sounds a bit out of place...). It's a quite pleasant listen, even excellent at times, so maybe those critics may be right for once... He was a bit weird, just like anyone who claims to be from Saturn I guess and thus I'm quite intrigued by him... I'll definitely buy something more in the near future :-)

Simone, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Search:

i've got to add "Solar Myth Approach, Vols 1 & 2", "Nubians of Plutonia", and the Evidence version of "Space is the Place".

mike j, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Pretty much all the good'uns have already been mentioned, but gotta give props to 'My Brother The Wind Vol II', where Ra farts abt with his newly acquired synths like a proto-Aphex Twin, and the Blast First rarities comp 'Out There a Minute', my intro to the Arkestra, which still works as a good overall samping of the man's many moods.

Destroy: never really heard a BAD Sun Ra disc, but the second vol of 'Heliocentric Worlds' is a major let-down after the first alb, which heavily features John Gilmore at his hard-blowin' best.

Andrew L, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I would say everything .....ok "heliocentric worlds' "atlantis" "space is the place" " magic city" but of course I've just heard a small portion of his infinite output .lots of planets yet to be discovered....

francesco, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i second the singles compilation recommendation, a good starting point, many of his styles on one purchase, from 50's big band through to the synth stuff and much weirdness,...

jk, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That 'Concert from the Black Forest' circa 1974 (?) with the 15- minute synth freakout, that's great. Can't remember exact CD title - it's in Hackney Library (Mare St. branch) if that helps

dave q, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

fuck hackney library. they wouldn't let me join because i'm not a resident of the borough (i'm 5 mins walk outside it)

gareth, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Gareth - me neither. I also cards for Camden and Islington. What you do is, bring the card you have into a library in another borough and tell them that there's stuff you need that's only found in THEIR branch, or something. (Actually, I didn't even need to give a reason.) Just fill in a form and you get a card on the same day.

Only drawback is that having 3 library cards and living in a pigsty, I usually have about 35 CDs out at any one time, they get mixed up and I right now I have £60 in fines to pay off

dave q, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

yes i suffer from this problem, with camden, islington and barnet cards. and at parents house somewhere i have bradford, calderdale, leeds and kirklees cards!

gareth, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

he's about the only jazz guy i can stand in large doses. if for nothing else i would remember him for _cosmic tones_ (chamber noise whose only real contemporary is the third ear band's _alchemy_), _atlantis_ (clavinets falling down the stairs), _concert for the comet kouhoutek_ (anything dedicated to kouhoutek rules, see also yahowa 13, best track here though is "journey through the outer darkness" which sounds like a saxophone is being chewed to pieces as it's played), _strange strings_ (more unearthed ur-drone/noise/improv for eastern string instruments). honorable mention for backing up yochannon on "message to the earthman," one of the craziest thing i've ever heard. "shut the door! waaaaghhhh!!!"

your null fame, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

>he's about the only jazz guy i can stand in large doses.

Destroy: jazz recommendations from soul-less people.

matthew m., Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

In that case ;)I'll just add one S and one D.

Search: Atlantis. Title track finally fulfills fantasies I had of what Sun Ra would sound like: alien, cold, forbidding, etc. The rest of the album is pretty good too.

Destroy. Pictures of Infinity. Not really bad, but also not spectacular live album. Classic wrong entry album that makes you go "is this what all the fuss is about?"

Omar, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The album Dave Q's talking about, is that "Nuits de la Fondation Maeght" (I prob'ly spelt that wrong)? yeah & 1 of my favs that I didn't notice anyone mentioning here is "Astro Black" (early '70s, Sirone on bass)...Hey Omar "Pics of Infinity" is GOOD.

duane, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Destroy: jazz recommendations from soul-less people.

feh. i guess it would be better if i walked around blathering the names of dead black guys like i knew them personally and pretending to enjoy the endless wank. got yer soul right HERE.

your null fame, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Destroy: jazz recommendations from soul-less people.

in that case i had better not mention that i quite like Shamek Farrah

gareth, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Today is Sun Ra's Arrival Day. If you came from nowhere here, why can't you go somewhere there?

Additional recommendations: Monorails and Satellites, Sun Ra playing solo piano. Like many Sun Ra recordings, this took a few listens (in this case separated over a number of years) before I came to appreciate it.

Other Planes of There. I don't know why this seems to be considered less accessible than Atlantis or the Magic City, both of which are too chaotic-sounding for me (at least in their title tracks). This starts off a bit more spare than the title tracks from those albums. There are some difficult moments, but overall I like it. The recording quality on the title track is perhaps "cruder" than that on "Heliocentric Worlds vol.I:," but I find it warmer, though I can't explain how such lonely and alienated sounding music can also be warm. At times I think I hear echoes of Varese (sp?). It includes "Pleasure" which always blows my mind. The last rack, which maintains more or less a waltz rhythm throughout is probably my least favorite on the album, but it's pretty good.

Angels and Demons at Play/The Nubians of Plutonia is a pretty accessible and enjoyable CD. (Did I just say anything there? Probably not.) Fate in a Pleasant Mood/When Sun Comes Out is also good. The first album is relatively straight, while the second one gets into more "uncompromising sonic exploration" sort of territory. The rediscovered bonus track of Marshall Allen playing clarinet is a treat. It sounds like he is work on a theme very close to one that appears on one or more other tracks (elsewhere), possibly "Next Stop Mars."

Destroy? I'm reluctant to say destroy anything, since Sun Ra albums I didn't like have often grown on me. I am less keen on his live albums in general than a lot of Sun Ra fans seem to be, though I love seeing the Arkestra live.

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Janus is nice too, though I wouldn't recommend it as a starting point. Island in the Sun is an airy, accessible piece. The Invisible Shield and Janus sort of run together. The beginning is pretty unrelenting, but it moves into a sound similar to "Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy," but more organic, with Art Jenkins on wordless vocals, trying to connect with his ancient African roots. There's a really nice live version of Velvet recorded some time late in the 60's. Joy is pretty challenging at times, but on a recent listen I realized that Sun Ra's piano playing was far more structured on this piece than I had realized before, so I think there's more there than what I first heard.

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The rediscovered bonus track of Marshall Allen playing clarinet is a treat.

Correction: John Gilmore plays clarinet on this track.

Incidentally, Marshall Allen's Arrival Day is this Saturday (the 25th). It will be celebrated at the Tritone in Philadelphia.

DeRayMi, Thursday, 23 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Search: John Szwed's fantastic biography, surely one of the best musician bio's ever.

I just found out that Szwed has a Miles Davis book coming out this year. Oh happy day!

Ben Williams, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Bought a couple of Ra records a couple of months ago.

The ideal starting point is the soundtrack to the Ra movie (can't remeber name). There's a lot of varied material there and it serves as a sort of Ra comp.

I like the group improvisations and the stuff he does with his moog (big slabs of noise: a take no prisoners approach there). Will have to get more records and the biog. Swzed is a good writer.

Julio Desouza, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

'space is the place' on impulse you mean?

Josh, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The CD was not on impulse (I can't check the record: it's on the other side of the atlantic!).

Julio Desouza, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

in the credits to the ra movie (remake: Queen of the Damned) is the name WILLIAM DHALGREN: this has always intrigued me

mark s, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that movie available on video, mark (anybody)?

''in the credits to the ra movie (remake: Queen of the Damned) is the name WILLIAM DHALGREN: this has always intrigued me''

Why?

Julio Desouza, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It's "Soundtrack to the film 'Space is the Place'" on Evidence. Mostly excellent stuff.

rw, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate to admit it but the "Space is the Place" soundtrack is one of the only Sun Ra CDs I've ever gotten rid of. I still don't consider it a good place to start. (The Greatest Hits does a pretty good job, though it doesn't really cover the full range of Sun Ra's career, just the stuff that evidence has the rights too, though that's plenty. "Out There a Minute" is a good introduction for the more adventurous.) I'd like to get a copy again. Seeing part of the movie (played before the Arkestra's 2001 New Year's show), with June Tyson singing "Outer Spaceways Incorporated" got me interested.

DeRayMi, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The soundtrack isn't a classic but it drives home the message that the arkestra covered a lot of differen things. The arkestra was an incredible experiment and that's what i got from that CD.

THESE records shop has a rack fully devoted to Ra (one of the guys who runs it absolutely worships him). That's where i got that CD from. Google it, they run a mail order service.

Julio Desouza, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
This is not my home!
This is not my home!

DeRayMi, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I've been listening to "Nuits de la Fondation Maeght, Volumes 1 & 2" recently. I got them in New York in this famous Jazz shop which is hidden halfway up an office block. The Sun Ra experts at http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~moudry/disclist.htm describe these as "miserable sounding pirates" - but I've heard worse, including some official Sun Ra releases! I love the 1st Volume, I much prefer the version of "Shadow World" to the version on "Magic City" and I think "Cosmic Explorer" is the single greatest piece of electronic music I've ever heard from Mr. Ra - it is simply ferocious. I'm trying to imagine what it must have been like for the French audience to go along to another freaky jazz gig by another freaky Black guy from America and being confronted by this electronic hurricane - must have been astonishing. "Friendly Galaxy No. 2" on Volume 2 is one of my favourite Ra pieces, it doesn't sound like anything else he ever did - it's a kind of floating piece with lots of atmospheric flute (apparently there are 5 or 6 flautists playing), it somehow reminds me of music for a late 60s sci-fi film. Apparently, Ra wrote a unique arrangement of it for that evening's performance based on the auditorium they were playing in.

In a similar vein, I recently got "Black Myth/Out in Space" - "Out In Space" being another electronic maelstrom, this time lasting almost 38 minutes! Believe me, not a CD for the faint-hearted!

I have to confess however that I'm not a tremendous fan of his so- called "great" albums from the mid-60's: "Magic City", "Heliocentric Worlds", "Atlantis". I think these albums are remarkable but I don't find myself listening to them very often - they're more to be admired than loved. Certainly, if you're looking for jazz don't look at the "Heliocentric Worlds" albums - these are probably the least "jazz" jazz albums I've ever heard, closer in fact to Varese or even Boulez.

KCoyne, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Nuits de la Fondation Maeght, Volumes 1 & 2" I've heard a lot of good reviews of this on the Saturn mailing list.

I have to confess however that I'm not a tremendous fan of his so- called "great" albums from the mid-60's: "Magic City", "Heliocentric Worlds", "Atlantis". . . . Certainly, if you're looking for jazz don't look at the "Heliocentric Worlds" albums - these are probably the least "jazz" jazz albums I've ever heard, closer in fact to Varese or even Boulez.

I don't really like those albums either. (I have only heard one of Heliocentric volumes, but I own the other volume and the other two titles mentioned.) Have you heard "Other Planes of There"? The title track covers somewhat similar material to "Heliocentric Worlds" but is much warmer and less rigid sounding. I don't mind jazz that doesn't sound much like jazz, per se, but I share your lack of enthusiasm for these albums.

DeRayMi, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Magic City" is great, and sounds much more like jazz than Boulez to me (not that it matters).

Ben Williams, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

julio: because dhalgren is a book by noted black SF writer samuel delany from the same era as space is the place, and it is never clear (at least i have never worked out) why it is called dhalgren

mark s, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

This is a late late answer but here it is. Just been reading Ra's biog (space is the place) and of course, it isn't the only that isn't clear with Ra.

Julio Desouza, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Just finished listening to 'Nothing is...' again and its not the 'chaotic' or anything. to these ears its a very organised piece of music. There are two brief 'free for all' moments. 'Imagination' on side 1 and midway trough to the final track on side 2.

I enjoyed 'Exotic Forest'. A constant bassline but lovely 'middle eastern' blowing (cliche alert!) and rolling percussion. And whenever sun ra plays on that piano (he sounds like a classical pianist who had burnt his hands but was still able to play) the music would change direction.

Definetely need to listen more. There's much more but i need to go to sleep.

anyway, will get some more recs soon...

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Julio, I would love to convince you to try some Arabic music, for actual middle eastern sounds. I'm telling you, "Salo Ko'os" or "Ana Fe Entezarak" performed by Oum Kalthoum are challenging pieces of music that could appeal to free jazz ears. There are plenty of others, but I think these would be most likely to appeal to your ears, of the ones I've heard. Of course, I don't really know what you have or haven't heard.

Generally when I read that something sounds "middle eastern" in a published review, I find that it either sounds only very vaguely middle eastern or it doesn't sound middle eastern at all. (For instance "Circe" from "When Sun Comes Out" doesn't sound like anything a middle eastern singer would do, though the liner notes describe it that way.)

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

deraymi- I'd love to try it some middle eastern music. I'm already interested to some flamenco after listening to derek bailey's guitar playin on 'aida' (there's so much on that album).

I'll try to track some of this stuff down (yet some more for the record pile but I need to visit the 'world music' section at tower anyway).

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, i meant there's so much to lo listen to on 'aida' not 'so much flamenco', in fact there's a little bit of it (it's all incorporated into his playing).

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

He has a chapter on Flamenco on his book on improvisation (but I guess you probably own that, of course).

I don't care much for Flamenco singing, which sounds to me like degenerate Arabic singing (not that I am saying it really is, but to my Arabicized ears, it kind of sounds that way); but I do like the guitar. Where I take salsa classes, there is also a Flamenco dance class. The teacher's husband is a guitarist who plays for the class. When I first heard him playing I was amazed by how good he is. I did kind of a double take, like, wow, this guy is actually really good, not just the teacher's husband who happens to play a little guitar or something. In fact, do you know much about Flamenco guitar, because that's something I'd be interested in hearing recommendations for? (I probably should get off my butt and be daring and go to a little bar at the edge of what used to be the barrio, where this guitarist sometimes accompanies his wife, etc.)

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

god but I do have my half dozen pet topics.

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, flamenco guitarists is definetely what I'm after. about flamenco singing it depends how much you've heard. if you haven't heard much then it depends what you've heard.

yeah...i've looked into flamenco guitarists but I can't remember any names (i think there was a webpage somewhere, I suppose I feel a thread coming).

Julio Desouza, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Sun Ra thread, as (sort of) requested.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Related question: Sun Ra for beginners? What would you recommend for a novice (me) who knows the legend but has never (knowingly) heard any of the music?

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

j.lu, I still think that all in all the "Greatest Hits" that Evidence released is as good a one-CD introduction as any. It might spend a little too much time on material from the 50's for people coming to Sun Ra from an essentially non-jazz background (like me), but it does a nice job of showing the variety in his work, and giving some good examples of it. I would make different choices here and there, but overall it's good. My personal favorite Sun Ra comp. is "Out There a Minute," which draws exclusively from the 60's, and contains a lot of smaller ensmble things. It's not as generally representative as the Greatest Hits, however. Despite the rave reviews for the "Singles" collection, I would steer you away from that as an intro.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"Jazz in Silhoutte" is a good intro. Sounds trad and experimental at the same time. Also one of his best ever.

Ben Williams, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the big things you miss with the Evidence "Greatest Hits" is the Free Big Band Space Chant sub-genre of Sun Ra's works. (Examples: "Space is the Place" and to some extent "Strange Celesital Roads," though that's a bit mellower and funkier.) Also, there's no live material on there at all, as far as I can remember (but I don't particularly go for the live material).

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
This new release (first time, I gather) of old material looks promising: New Sun Ra on Atavistic Label

Ra-kist Scientist, Friday, 25 October 2002 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I was into the listening thread in theory but I just dunno how you overcome organizing the catalog

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 20:40 (seven months ago) link

it is brutal

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 20:40 (seven months ago) link

like for one thing there's the issue of availability - not everyone would be able to hear everything, it's definitely not all on the 'net - and then how do you even order stuff (by date of release? recording?)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 20:41 (seven months ago) link

I use the Szwed book and go by date of recording fwiw, also file my LPs by whatever track on it was the earliest-recorded

I might be open to giving it a try if ppl are OK with that

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 20:46 (seven months ago) link

i would be very ok with that!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:03 (seven months ago) link

OK let me prep over the weekend and see what I can do!

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:04 (seven months ago) link

awesome, thanks! i think 1961 was next up, and i still have this handy collaborative playlist with an attempt to put everything in chronological order. i think it goes up to the mid-60s before i passed out in the cat food:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4dAK9bNAV6C8zrf9twZpk3?si=aX5sJqtsTwKmqTP-f-965g

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:06 (seven months ago) link

thanks! yes I have that in my Spotify playlists - did you get all the way through the Chicago years, do you recall?

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:09 (seven months ago) link

yep - looks like it ends at the same point as the thread, at the end of 1961, as he's moving to NYC

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:10 (seven months ago) link

sweet, nice time for a transition!

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:11 (seven months ago) link

http://www.cyclesbyslo.com/

this is the guy who played guitar on lanquidity and sleeping beauty (and probably other sun ra releases)

na (NA), Thursday, 30 January 2020 17:19 (seven months ago) link

Have been getting into Sun Ra for the first time in the last couple of months - thanks for the playlist, such a great resource!

bamboohouses, Saturday, 1 February 2020 09:36 (seven months ago) link

no prob! when budo was first doing the thread, it was my initiation into sun ra as well, and i followed along obediently and didn't skip ahead too much. so i'm really into sun ra, origins to 1962, and still know pretty much nothing about what followed :D

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 1 February 2020 16:57 (seven months ago) link

but even that small chunk of his career, alone, is enough to spend years in. no complains here!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 1 February 2020 16:59 (seven months ago) link

I might be open to giving it a try if ppl are OK with that

― The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Wednesday, January 29, 2020 2:46 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i've been meaning to get back to that thread these last few months but keep being stymied by life things.

would totally dig if you, particularly you, were to do it

budo jeru, Saturday, 1 February 2020 17:10 (seven months ago) link

like for one thing there's the issue of availability - not everyone would be able to hear everything, it's definitely not all on the 'net - and then how do you even order stuff (by date of release? recording?)

― Οὖτις

is it definitely not all on the net? i believe i grabbed everything from the old rlc discog back in the early slsk days, and anything that's come out since then should theoretically be online, right?

for me it's mostly a time issue

you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Saturday, 1 February 2020 17:25 (seven months ago) link

So many things done in tiny pressings tho

Οὖτις, Saturday, 1 February 2020 18:23 (seven months ago) link

budo I am planning the thread revive for Monday, thanks!

let's talk about gecs baby (sleeve), Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:11 (seven months ago) link

woohoo! can't wait, thanks sleeve!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:12 (seven months ago) link

xp I think most all the tiny pressings up to the late 70's have been reissued at this point, at least via Bandcamp

let's talk about gecs baby (sleeve), Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:13 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

Happy 96th birthday to Marshall Allen!

some infected evening (Matt #2), Monday, 25 May 2020 11:45 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Lol what??

BTW I'm also reading this - THIS PLANET IS DOOMED: the science fiction poetry of Sun Ra. Sensitive, visionary, sonorous and liberating verses. pic.twitter.com/wv7MmL2TI4

— Jayaprakash Satyamurthy (@flightofsand) June 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 June 2020 09:18 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

This is really good. I never knew of those photos (or if I had read about them I've forgotten), vivid descriptions to be found.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2020/07/23/sun-ra-everything-nothing/

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:44 (two months ago) link

Our first issue of 2020 celebrates interstellar icon and generative force of nature: Sun Ra.

Contributors include Taylor Ho Bynum, John Corbett, Naima Lowe, Luke Stewart Thomas Stanley, and Ken Vandermark. The issue also features supplemental writing from Jessie Cox on Marshall Allen, Reg Bloor on Glenn Branca, Chris Pitsiokos on Miles Davis's On The Corner, Peter Margasak on Derek Bailey's On The Edge series, and a conversation between Audra Wolowiec and Freya Powell. The issue closes with the first exquisite corpse of the new season: a phenomenal text work by Camae Ayewa (Moor Mother).

This edition is available for preorder on our Bandcamp page and will be released on July 17th.

Sound American will host a special streaming event to celebrate this issue featuring solo performances of Sun Ra’s music by Taylor Ho Bynum, Luke Stewart, and Ken Vandermark as well as readings by and discussions with John Corbett, Naima Lowe, and Thomas Stanley. Donations will be accepted during the performance for Justice for Families, an organization dedicated to ending the mass incarceration of Black youth. Subscribe to our mailing list to receive information on how you can take part.

https://soundamerican.bandcamp.com/merch/sa24-the-sun-ra-issue-preorder

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 July 2020 11:05 (two months ago) link

New Arkestra studio album is coming from Strut:

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Release Date: October 9

The planets align this October as the mighty Sun Ra Arkestra, under the direction of the maestro Marshall Allen, release their first studio album in twenty years, ‘Swirling’.
Recorded at Rittenhouse Soundworks in Philadelphia, the new recording represents the continuation of a heartfelt rebirth of the Arkestra under Allen’s guidance since Sun Ra left the planet in 1993, gaining new generations of followers from their regular touring across the globe.
LISTEN OR BUY IN CYBERSPACE https://strut.k7store.com/sun-ra-arkestra

dow, Monday, 20 July 2020 01:41 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

^ this looks cool. they'll probably manage to release at least a few more by the time we get to 2020 in the listening thread :)

budo jeru, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 21:41 (one month ago) link

Blank Forms is pleased to present When Sun Comes Out, our first benefit exhibition including works by over 40 artists, nearly all of whom are collaborators or friends of the organization. Taking its title from Sun Ra’s 1963 album, for which a rare silkscreened cover designed by Claude Dangerfield is among the works on offer, the exhibition refers back to Blank Forms’ first gala in 2017 honoring Marshall Allen and the Sun Ra Arkestra, and also looks to the future with hope for sunnier days of music, celebration, and performance.

incl. visual art from peter brötzmann, moki cherry, and yusef lateef among others:

https://blankforms.org/viewing-room/when-sun-comes-out/

budo jeru, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 21:46 (one month ago) link

Haven't seen it yet but Uncut's new edition has an lp by lp of Sun Ra. Could be interesting. NOt sure how a magazine not dedicated to his discography could do that or what they'll boil down to 10 or 15 lps,

Stevolende, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 23:33 (one month ago) link

oooh, i love normie sun ra takes!

(i genuinely do, this is not snark!)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 23:53 (one month ago) link

lol have you ever seen a photo of robert campbell ?

budo jeru, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 23:54 (one month ago) link

anyway it seems i've misremembered what uncut magazine was — looking at the website now, yes, it seems a very unlikely publication to do such a thing. mostly they just do classic rock retrospectives and talk about oasis and paul weller, yeah ? weirder still that they've misleadingly made it seem like they're going through all the records which is just logistically impossible.

budo jeru, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 23:58 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

i've obtained my copy of the long-anticipated "egypt 1971" 5xLP box !

it rules !!!

budo jeru, Saturday, 29 August 2020 16:47 (three weeks ago) link

JEALOUS

sleeve, Saturday, 29 August 2020 16:49 (three weeks ago) link

I guess I'm gonna go to the local RSD store today after all

sleeve, Saturday, 29 August 2020 16:49 (three weeks ago) link

currently 2.5 hrs into an 8 hr dj set at my local for RSD

they're paying me by giving me an egypt 71 box 😎

the late great, Saturday, 29 August 2020 17:37 (three weeks ago) link

hell yes

sleeve, Saturday, 29 August 2020 17:43 (three weeks ago) link

People who know how to live!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 29 August 2020 19:04 (three weeks ago) link

i dunno my back is starting to hurt something fierce!!

the late great, Saturday, 29 August 2020 19:32 (three weeks ago) link

you should have had your manager work free beer into the deal !

budo jeru, Saturday, 29 August 2020 22:02 (three weeks ago) link

Lol, that Egypt box sounds so good!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 August 2020 22:04 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://sunrastrut.bandcamp.com/album/swirling

This should be fun

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:28 (one week ago) link

"seductive fantasy" sounds amazing

budo jeru, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:25 (one week ago) link

Found out that people are selling the 3cd Singles set for £11.50 online. That is a reduction on its initial price isn't it?

Anyway will soon have both versions of the singles.

Stevolende, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:26 (one week ago) link

Found out that people are selling the 3cd Singles set for £11.50 online. That is a reduction on its initial price isn't it?
I believe so. I noticed this on Amazon, ebay and elsewhere that it was marked down quite a bit. (Last I checked, the label itself was selling low-priced copies on discogs.) I picked up a copy from moviemars for really cheap myself. It's possible they're clearing out overstock and it's not going out-of-print, but anyone who's been thinking of getting this should do so now because even if stays in-print, it'll probably creep back up in price.

birdistheword, Monday, 14 September 2020 21:01 (one week ago) link

I was getting excited seeing all of these Egypt 71 posts on twitter and instagram, but of course it's one of those stupid fucking Record Store Day exclusives. Only $165 on discogs right now. I hate this stupid fake holiday.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:23 (one week ago) link

I thought I got a set called Egypt 71 from Honest John's several years ago

Stevolende, Monday, 14 September 2020 22:27 (one week ago) link

you may be thinking of the 80's set with Salah Ragab

sleeve, Monday, 14 September 2020 22:58 (one week ago) link

THere wee 2 sets reissued by Art Yard Horizon and a 2fer of Nidhamu + Dark Myth Equation Visitation not sure if I got one or both of those.

In 1971, in Denmark, at the end of a tour, Sun Ra suddenly decided to take his whole band to Egypt. They had no concerts and no contacts there, but Ra sold some recording rights to Black Lion to pay for the tickets and they flew out. They were stopped at customs and their instruments were temporarily impounded, but they were let through as tourists. Then they booked into a hotel facing the pyramid at Giza. Word got to Hartmut Geerken, then working at the Goethe institute, and he quickly threw a concert together at his house in Heliopolis, for which Brigadier Salah Ragab borrowed army instruments for the Arkestra to play (he was later disciplined for it). Ra's Moog had made it through customs and a Tiger Organ was hired. One of the audience (of 25) booked the band in for a Cairo TV session the following day. Then Ragab persuaded the Ministry of Culture to book a concert at the Balloon Theatre (for another tiny audience: only the first 4 rows were occupied). Two more concerts followed -- at the American University (for the cab fare) and the Versailles Club. They stayed for more than a fortnight, making a film while they were there and finally, by band-members selling various personal items, raised the money to fly home. Horizon (also known as Starwatchers and Sun Ra in Egypt Vol. 2) contains a big chunk of the now legendary Balloon Theatre concert (it burned down soon after their visit, as did the hotel in which the Arkestra stayed while they were in Cairo). The Balloon extract is an uncut block (tracks 1- 4 on the CD) and features a lot of Sun Ra's all-hell-let-loose Moog soloing, as well as a great version of 'Discipline #2.' The rest of Horizon is from the Heliopolis concert, kicking off with an instrumental version of 'Enlightenment' and 'Love In Outer Space,' (neither are on the original LP) segueing slowly into 'Space Is The Place' -- followed by drum orchestra, more Ra soloing on Moog, Tiger Organ and detuned piano (bloops, hoovering, whistles, Concords taking off) leading to a first lurching, then wild, 'Discipline #8.' Two bonus tracks, for the first time restored from the original concert, follow: 'We'll Wait For You' (with June Tyson) and 'The Satellites Are Spinning' -- which ends in full-on percussion. A classic recording of a classic band in great form."

Stevolende, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 08:42 (one week ago) link

that was from the forcedexposure page, not sure where it was being quited from but its between sets of quotation marks.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 08:43 (one week ago) link


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