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I've suddenly realised that I love the song "Sweet Home Alabama". I also thought the Black Crowes were great when I saw them live once, and the Kings Of Leon are the great outfit of our times for this week.

So obviously, Southern Rock must be G*R*A*T*E, or at least have loads of G*R*A*T*E stuff in it. what do you think?

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Allman Brothers obviously.

Live at Fillmore East for the classic live show.

Eat a Peach for Melissa, Blue Sky, & the lovely dobro on Little Martha.

H (Heruy), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 11:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Most of it is shit

dave q, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link

For recent stuff, Drive-By Truckers Southern Rock Opera and their brand new disc Decoration Day. This is just great rock that happens to have southern flavor.

Lynyrd Skynyrd Second Helping is my favorite proto-southern-rock record.

southern lights (southern lights), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 12:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Destroy. All of it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

What about British Sea Power? Or Fatboy Slim, you can't get much more Southern than brighton without ending up in France.

tigerclawskank, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

or The Frank And Walters.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

As much as I'd like to see all of southern rock destroyed, it really has to be given some due. Everyone, at one point or another, has liked Sweet Home Alabama, Freebird or both. Skynyrd still plays a good show live, even though thats not the "real" band anymore. While I'm not a fan of the Allmans, especially for their Jamishness, I can't help but appreciate the skill of Dicky Betts.

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Skynyrd's Gold & Platinum comp is mostly great. Also look for Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus cheap (they were from California but it sounds like Southern rock.) That & the two Allman Bros. records above (Eat a Peach & Fillmore East) are all I've ever needed. Molly Hatchet is so fucking terrible it's difficult to believe. Their double live album might be the worst record I've ever heard.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The Outlaws - I haven't listened to them in ages - but the early stuff I used to like (in Junior High .. so, no accounting for taste. I used to like Chef Boyardee in Junior High too.)

Always liked the Allman's "One Way Out" and "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed"... Always wanted to hear Greg Allman sing "Tempted" (The Squeeze song.)

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck boogie rock. actually i like some skynyrd and allmans, but fuck it anyhow.

search: the compulsive gamblers/oblivians/reigning sound/cool jerks/knaughty knights, the bassholes, gibson bros, big star of course but more "like flies on sherbet", charlie feathers, tav falco & panther burns, the shows put on by the mystic knights of mau mau in n.o., mr quintron, lost sounds, hasil adkins, tony joe white goddamnit, joe south, bobbie gentry, eddie hinton, little richard & esquerita, etc. etc. etc.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I enjoy "Fear Not the Obvious" by the Yayhoos, which is Dan Baird's recent group (don't know if they're still in existence). Sort of tongue-in-cheek, but pretty good.

ham on rye (ham on rye), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Heard good reviews of Gov't Mule - although they kinda leave me flat...

By the way, it's "Southern fried Rock."

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno, Manorisms~Wet Willie is right lovely at times as is their live show stopper Teaser. Give WW some luv.

thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

destroy Decoration Day..sorry..its a letdown.

thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Do My Morning Jacket and Black Keys fall into this catergory. If so, then I recommend both.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I swear we've done this thread about three different times now.

Thy Lethal Zen Ned (Ned), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah we have.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

And yet it doesn't come close to the number of Smiths threads...

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, I didn't mind Nashville Pussy back in the Corey Parks-era, but now that she's gone, who gives a damn?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Little Feat! "Dixie Chicken" or the live album, which if I remember right is called "Waiting for Columbus."

Adam Harrison-Friday, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

what Fritz said plus the Grifters.

Will (will), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm too drunk to give up my (by now, surely predictable) defense and appreciation of southern rock. I'm on vacation. But rest assured, I'll revive this bitch next week to talk about Dragstrip Syndicate and the like.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link

black oak arkansas. black oak arkansas. BLACK OAK ARKANSAS.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 03:18 (sixteen years ago) link

go jim dandy.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 25 August 2003 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

They might be from California, but Creedence Clearwater Revival sound pretty southern to me.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 07:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Always wanted to hear Greg Allman sing "Tempted" (The Squeeze song.)

! this is inspired.

and lynyrd skynyrd has long been a not-really-so-shameful "shameful pleasure." though i never could stand the allman bros. (who seemed to be in the same league as the grateful dead, at least to my ears. and being in the same league as the dead = NOT good. though i do like greg allman's voice.)

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 08:05 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...
sweet stuff!


nice triple guitar action.

scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2007 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

my dad used to have lots of Doc Holliday albums, and i wish i had one to listen to:



scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2007 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm surprised that chuck doesn't own all the old Doc Holliday albums. maybe he does. i don't think he does.

scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2007 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Raging Slab was wonderful.

NYCNative, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Do My Morning Jacket and Black Keys fall into this catergory. If so, then I recommend both.

seconded! i came to thread to say exactly this

stephen, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

also i like the idea of Black Oak Arkansas more than listening to Black Oak Arkansas. I have the live one and Street Party, both are "okay" to me, nothing more.

jim dandy is a real character though.

my fav. minneapolis record store has a little shrine to black oak, t-shirts, signed photos and albums in a glass case.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

eat yer heart out, diamond dave!


scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

but i get yer point.

scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i wanted to love them! they have their moments. the songs/band isn't as distinctive as jim dandy for me...

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

they were an inspiration to many though:



scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

where the fuck is RAM JAM in this thread? huh?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link

[xp] Yes, they were an inspiration to many:


NYCNative, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

that magazine cover is a hoot, I remember picking up a copy of After Darkaround 1975 cause it had Bowie on the cover and being totally bemused by the gay-without-quite-saying-so content. jd to the rescue.

m coleman, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

lol @ the signal to o_O ratio on this thread.

Kerm, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

most of the 2003 posts on this thread are so wrong it's funny.

scott seward, Thursday, 1 May 2008 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

I saw you endorse the Henry Paul Band on the rolling vinyl thread, and that's how I ended up here.

Kerm, Thursday, 1 May 2008 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

i just bought a ktel southern rock comp w/ a fried egg on the cover


deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

i am surprised that alexinnyc does not honour the southern fried fire.
also, why isn't zz top southern rock? or are they? or were they?

m0stlyClean, Thursday, 1 May 2008 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

They absolutely are... who says otherwise? Nobody mentioned them previously on this thread because it is ridiculous.

Kerm, Thursday, 1 May 2008 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

Southern rock rules-zz, blackfoot, skynryd, the new orleans metal groups. Kick ass stuff. And black oak slays.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 1 May 2008 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

Just played the first side of that Henry Paul Band LP (which I bought for $1 in Austin last week.) Pretty great -- how come all bands don't have three guitar players? (When has any extra guitar player ever made a rock band worse?)

That K-Tel Southern Fried Rock LP is pretty great; also swear by South's Greatest Hits, on Capricorn from 1977. Best CD compilation I know of is Volunteer Jam: Classic Live Performances Volume One, on Sony Music Special Products, 1999.

the new orleans metal groups

Not sure what these are, but most of the '00s extreme metal bands who supposedly sound Southern rock (Pantera, Corrosion of Conformity, Crowbar, Clutch) don't sound Southern rock at all to me. I mean, maybe they're Southern, and maybe they're rock, but so are R.E.M., right?

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

I think I fell in love with her as a teen watching BOA on In Concert or one of those shows. Go Jim Dandy!

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 28 April 2012 11:51 (eight years ago) link

I think one interesting thing about The Outlaws is that they were a southern guitar army kind of band that really wanted to be The Eagles. I got the first three studio albums and it is interesting how much they kind of went for that other kind of high harmony kind of country rock sound of that era even getting Bill Szymczyk to work on their third record (and the last with Henry Paul until later on down the road).

earlnash, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:43 (eight years ago) link

I saw them live a couple times. They were best as an opener, compelled to keep it short. Anything else and Green Grass & High Tides turned into a 25 minute endurance test. Too much pandering to a biker festival audience spoiled the soup. Had a minor hit late with a cover of "Ghost Riders in the Sky" but it didn't really help. They just had a rep as a road band with three guitarists who'd get together at the front of the stage to mow you down with finger calisthenics but no particularly memorable tunes except the Green Grass endless jam.

Gorge, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:54 (eight years ago) link

xpost Ruby had an album backed by Grey Ghost, right? Never heard it, never saw a sign of them again, mebbe assembled studio/road pros? Think I saw some good reviews of it. Yeah, the big Outlaws radio hit I remember was def in wake of Eagles: "There goes another love song/They're singin' about me again." But the Eagles went more towards mainstream rock, only used three Glynn Johns smooth loungepoke harmony etc tracks on On The Border, I think. I guess a fair number of people still craved the earlier approach. The guitarathon was harder on wannabees, though I saw Grinderswitch on the same bill with Cowboy, of all bands. Cowboy had me thinking of a more consistently in-focus Traffic, and got some applause, even a few cheers--but lots of yells for Grinderswitch, who were good for a grunty while, and I'm all for the meat'n'taters, but jeez.

dow, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:37 (eight years ago) link

In their original power trio incarnation, Hydra could go from sounding exactly like Cream at their heaviest to the Jimi Hendrix Experience at their--well, their mean, which was pretty exacting. They had a rep as an urban Southern Rock band, supposedly jamming with BOC and the Stooges, which came to mind on their self-titled debut, esp. re the scurrying in the walls of "If You Care Enough To Survive," alongside the bulldozer bounce. But although the vocals were great on their power ballads, "Feel The Pain" and Dreams of Sweet Miriam," they got distracting on the second, Land Of Money, with the dated sub-Johnny Winter hoarse bellowing. Third album went back to the trio I think, but my copy sounded warped, so I went on to other things, ballin' on a budget etc. Here's the first

dow, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:52 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

crisp 30 minute interview w Russell Gulley, singer-songwriter-guitarist, played early on with one of Hank Williams' musicians, later w Eddie Hinton, the Swampers etc, also had a band called Jackson Highway--good detail on Muscle Shoals and before (no music excerpts)

dow, Monday, 23 July 2012 00:21 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Also: Paul Hornsby, played w Hinton in Men-its, several of whom were recruited for Hourglass by pre-ABB Duane and Gregg, later key player/producer at Capricorn, etc good interview (text of it http://swampland.com/articles/view/title:paul_hornsby">)http://swampland.com/articles/view/title:paul_hornsby

dow, Saturday, 18 August 2012 22:20 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I missed this tie-in with the Muscle Shoals doc, but prob on YouTube, as is the doc's trailer:


Tonight on Late Show with David Letterman, catch a special musical performance from the film Muscle Shoals, featuring R&B legend Candi Staton, Jason Isbell, John Paul White (The Civil Wars) and The Swampers (Spooner Oldham, Jimmy Johnson & David Hood). They will perform "I Ain't Easy To Love" which is featured in the Magnolia Pictures film Muscle Shoals, in theaters now & available on iTunes and On Demand everywhere.

About the film:

Located alongside the Tennessee River, Muscle Shoals, Alabama is the unlikely breeding ground for some of America's most creative and defiant music. Under the spiritual influence of the "Singing River," as Native Americans called it, the music of Muscle Shoals has helped create some of the most important and resonant songs of all time. At its heart is Rick Hall who founded FAME Studios.

Overcoming crushing poverty and staggering tragedies, Hall brought black and white together in Alabama's cauldron of racial hostility to create music for the generations. He is responsible for creating the "Muscle Shoals sound" and The Swampers, the house band at FAME that eventually left to start their own successful studio, known as Muscle Shoals Sound. Greg Allman, Bono, Clarence Carter, Mick Jagger, Etta James, Alicia Keys, Keith Richards, Candi Staton, Percy Sledge and others bear witness to Muscle Shoals' magnetism, mystery and why it remains influential today. http://www.magpictures.com/muscleshoals/


dow, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:41 (six years ago) link

Yeah, that might be aite, but this is what I'm gonna watch, before it's gone Happy Friday.
Lynyrd Skynyrd--complete (?) concert, Winterland '75

dow, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:47 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

Jaimoe on the radio, remembering playing with Otis, James Carr, lots of others leading up to the Allmans; music incl these and other things he was struck by, like (at the moment) Yusef LaTeef with Mike Nock and James Black (a drummer "on the edge of genius and insanity...who studied all kinds of instruments...I never heard anybody else play like that.") Streaming here:


dow, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 16:23 (six years ago) link

Doesn't sound unique there, but good.

dow, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 16:26 (six years ago) link

So a lot of that discussion had to do with the ABB's jazz influences, especially Trane and Miles: their version of "After Midnight" and Trane's "My Favorite Things" were played; also a good lyrical instrumental excursion by Jaimoe's Jasssz Band, who are new to me, and still rolling. JJB's vocalist-guitarist Junior Mack was featured on "Leavin' Trunk," with early Allmans appeal; it was on the same Taj Mahal LP as "Statesboro Blues," which got Duane into slide guitar. Can hear some excerpts of the JJB album here, plus a YouTube live shot (and a lot of other Allmans etc stuff I hadn't seen before; natch, since this is their merch etc. site):


dow, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 19:26 (six years ago) link

Im currently reading the new book. Jaimoe comes across as by far the most sane guy in the band.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 20:44 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Having since read Gregg's autobio, Ah suspect it's a low bar, but Bill's prob right.


austex Records Unleashes “Mutants Of The Monster: A Tribute To Black Oak Arkansas”
Presented by Joecephus & The George Jonestown Massacre
Featuring Shooter Jennings, Eddie Spaghetti, Greg Ginn and more!
CDs Arrive on August 19th, Vinyl on September 19th

“Mutants Of The Monster” is the new 17 track album tribute to ’70’s arena rock legends Black Oak Arkansas. The tribute is a labor of love that began one night in Tennessee over six years ago. The album’s co-producer and Joecephus & The George Jonestown Massacre main man Joey Killingsworth and band played an opening slot for BOA. He was a huge fan of the band and was unable to get a t-shirt in the size he wanted. He was given their manager’s number and with one thing leading to another it was soon decided that Joecephus & The GJM would record a single of the BOA tune “Fever In My Mind” with Jim “Dandy” Mangrum himself singing, to be backed with a standalone version of “Hot Rod” by the band. Enter Shooter Jennings, who had been playing Joecephus and the GJM a bunch on his Sirius/XM radio show. Joey mentioned to him that they had a version of "Hot Rod" in the can and Jennings was game to add vocals. The single release never materialized, but after hearing an interview with some members of Black Flag saying how they used to listen to The Stooges and Black Oak Arkansas, and another interview with BOA guitarist Rickie Lee Reynolds saying how they had toured with bands as diverse as Black Sabbath, KISS and King Crimson, Killingsworth decided his heroes were not getting their due and had the inspiration to pursue a BOA tribute album, a feat never attempted before. After announcing that the project would be a benefit for Memphis area animal rescue The Savior Foundation, interest grew and an impressive roster of guest stars joined the cause.

Stream "Mutants of the Monster" here: https://soundcloud.com/saustex/sets/mutants-of-the-monster-a

The album is co-produced by studio owner and drummer Dik LeDoux. Joey credits him with getting the best performances out of the various musicians who appear on the record as well as keeping project rolling by providing demos to potential guest players. Killingsworth (aka Joecephus) and his band The George Jonestown Massacre (in various configurations) provide the backing on all tracks except “Rock’N’Roll” which is anchored by Nine Pound Hammer and “Keep The Faith” - a bonus track donated to the project by Nashville P*ssy offshoot The Kentucky Bridgeburners.

But as they say, the proof is in the pudding and the results in this case are most tasty. LeDoux and Killingsworth’s genuine love for the band’s material really shines through in the arrangements and treatments of the songs, which were tailored for the guest vocalists and instrumentalists. There is a heavy and grooveful thread that runs throughout, breathing new life into and updating the classic Black Oak favorites.


Although Black Oak Arkansas is still a going concern anchored by Mangrum and original BOA guitarist Rickie Lee Reynolds (with a recent album for Atlantic Records), modern recognition of the band is limited to their being lumped in with period southern rocks acts such as Lynyrd Skynyrd and The Marshall Tucker Band. While other acts had a lot more chart success and radio play, they were unmatched as a live act in their heyday (though BOA have one platinum and three gold albums to their credit, and, hold the distinction of being one of only five acts ever personally signed to Atlantic Records by founder and music business hyper-legend Ahmet Ertegun). The band was a top-grossing act, relentlessly touring the arena circuit as a headliner throughout the mid-seventies, performing in front of millions of fans. Jim Dandy’s wild-eyed, backwoods Romeo stage antics, combined with the band’s classic three guitar attack (and the later addition of Ruby Starr to the live show) was not only visually compelling but also just plain fun; in an era that became typified by increasingly stultified performances. Perhaps the greatest testament to the pervasiveness of the band was Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth’s whole-hog co-optation of Mangrum’s look and stage moves… Axl Rose might owe some of his vocal stylings to Jim Dandy as well (witness “Fever In My Mind”).

“Mutants Of The Monster” captures the essence of BOA’s fun spirit and showcases the sturdiness of the material and will hopefully serve as a breeding ground for a new generation of Black Oak fans. With any luck, the album will raise the profile of Black Oak Arkansas, among not only contemporary fans of Classic Rock and Outlaw Country, but critics as well.


1. Hey Y'all 4:10 
feat. Blaine Cartwright and Ruyter Suys

2. Uncle Lijiah 4:19 
feat. Jimbo Mathus and Robby Turner

3. Hot Rod 2:54 
feat. Shooter Jennings

4. Swimmin' in Quicksand 3:18
 feat. JD Pinkus and Nik Turner

5. Hot and Nasty 2:43 
feat. Eddie Spaghetti

6. When Electricity Came to Arkansas 5:46 feat. Jeff Clayton, Greg Ginn and Rickie Lee Reynolds

7. Short Life Line 3:43 feat. Bill Davis

8. Fever in My Mind 2:14
 feat. Jim “Dandy” Mangrum

9. High 'N' Dry 2:49 
feat. Whiskeydick

10. Lord Have Mercy on My Soul 4:15 feat. Jeff Clayton and Paul Leary

11. Mutants of the Monster 7:03 
feat. CT and Micheal Denner

12. Mad Man 3:39

13. Strong Enough to Be Gentle 4:47 feat. Ruyter Suys and Jimmy Henderson
14. Jim Dandy 2:33 
feat. Jello Biafra and Ruyter Suys

15. Rock 'N' Roll 3:42
 Nine Pound Hammer feat. Joecephus
16. The Wild Bunch 4:49 
feat. Kyle Turley and Mickey Raphael
17. Keep the Faith 3:00 
The Kentucky Bridgeburners


Blaine Cartwright and Ruyter Suys (Nashville P*ssy)
Jimbo Mathus (Squirrel Nut Zippers)

Robby Turner (Sturgill Simpson)

Shooter Jennings
JD Pinkus (Honky, Butthole Surfers)

Nik Turner (Hawkwind)

Eddie Spaghetti (Supersuckers)
Brian Venable (Lucero)

Jeff Clayton (Anitseen)

Greg Ginn (Black Flag)
Rickie Lee Reynolds (BOA)
Bill Davis (Dash Rip Rock)
Jim "Dandy" Mangrum (BOA)
Paul Leary (Butthole Surfers)

CT (Rwake)

Michael Denner (Mercyful Fate, King Diamond)
Jimmy Henderson (BOA)

Jello Biafra

Nine Pound Hammer

Kyle Turley

Mickey Raphael (Willie Nelson Band)

The Kentucky Bridgeburners

For more information visit www.saustex.com

dow, Thursday, 28 July 2016 20:29 (three years ago) link

Pne more time---Go Jim Dandy!


dow, Thursday, 28 July 2016 20:31 (three years ago) link

I like Randall Bramblett's records--all of them--a lot, especially this song from his first album, back in 1975. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXeVHBRxwnQ

Edd Hurt, Friday, 29 July 2016 01:04 (three years ago) link

Black Oak Arkansas' Original Albums Classics collection is a good one to pick up. I've said it on other similar threads, but they are by far the most hippy strange of the classic southern rock groups. The vintager live clips of them at the California Jam are really great too.

Blackfoot is another Original Albums Classic to pick up. They got popular a bit later than the other bands. Their live record cut in the UK is really good. It of course might be doctored, but the crowd is sounding like they are going batshit to them. Kinda wild considering it was cut in '82 during the NWBHM times. Got to wonder if they ever shared the stage with Motorhead in those days...would have been a heck of a show if it happened.

earlnash, Friday, 29 July 2016 05:13 (three years ago) link

Any Southern rock bands with female vocalists who are worth checking out?

beamish13, Friday, 29 July 2016 05:53 (three years ago) link

Dale Krantz was strong w Rossington-Collins Band---better live, but I've got both albums on an ancient CD, and they have some good tracks. Krantz later married Rossington and became a backup singer for the early semi-revived Skynyrd, dunno if she's stil with 'em. (Speaking of Blackfoot, Rickey Medlocke, whom Van Zant talked into being Skynyrd's pre-Artemus drummer, came back as singer-guitarist for the Skynyrd revival, don't know if he's still there either
The only other band with a female lead singer I can think of is Grey Ghost, fronted by Ruby Red. Saw her duet w Jim Dandy somewhere once, but don't remember how that was or what Grey Ghost sounded like.
Yeah, Randall Bramblett! Played sax with Cowboy, right? Aand still puts out good albums, singing and songwriting and playing sax, guitar, keys, kind of a backroads, backstreets Steely Dan sometimes.

dow, Friday, 29 July 2016 15:02 (three years ago) link

Blackfoot came along when new wave was becoming the hot trend, used to hear their cover of Spirit's "I Put A Line On You" on college radio around '79, '80, don't know how that first(?) album was, but '83's City Slicker was pretty decent.

dow, Friday, 29 July 2016 15:07 (three years ago) link

Mother's Finest was from Atlanta and had a female lead singer but their sound was more funk/soul hard rock than 'southern rock' in the Capricorn records/Skynyrd way. Like the Isley Brothers it's not hard to hear Mother's Finest as a 70s rock/funk version of the 60s soul sound.

earlnash, Friday, 29 July 2016 21:19 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Yeah they funk-rocked and Baby Jean Kennedy sure did sing lead, but also yeah not Southern Rock in the bandwagonesque sense.

These guys certainly were bandwagon, and could be satisfying that way when guitar urges pushed around the country-rock harmonies etc;current line-up seems like non-nonentities, especially Chris Anderson, and this album might be worth checking out, if live really is still the Outlaws thing:

For The Outlaws, it´s always about the music. Especially live music! For more than 40 years, the southern rock legend has celebrated triumphs, endured tragedies and survived legal nightmares to remain one of the most influential and best-loved bands of the genre. It's a band of brothers bound together by history, harmony and the road. It's about a group that respects its own legacy while refusing to be defined by its past. But most of all, it's about playing live, playing for their audience. The sextet proves just how well this combination works with Legacy Live, its brand-new double live CD, scheduled for release on November 18th via Steamhammer/SPV.

"I want people to hear this album and see our show and realize that The Outlaws are still there," says founding member and front man Henry Paul. "Our goal is to unite the fans and bring the group back into the limelight." Legacy Live consists of two CDs, full to the brim with classics such a ´There Goes Another Love Song`, ´(Ghost) Riders In The Sky`, ´Green Grass & High Tides Forever` and ´Freeborn Man` as well as more recent material like ´It´s About Pride`, ´Hidin` Out In Tennessee` and ´So Long`. A total of 20 songs, every one of which proves: the gritty southern rock by The Outlaws mark 2016 is as intense and passionate as it's always been.

nd what is more: On stage, the band burns hotter than ever. "The Outlaws helped define Southern Rock for me and for generations of fans," wrote American music journalist Bill Robinson in June 2012 in The Huffington Post. "Seeing them onstage with The Charlie Daniels Band, Marshall Tucker Band, Allman Brothers, Lynyrd Skynyrd or countless others was, for a long time, one of the best experiences I could have." The Outlaws' live shows are blazing tributes to the band's rich history and fiery rebirth. Classic tracks and fan favorites from the first three albums - as well as The Henry Paul Band's definitive "Grey Ghost" - share the spotlight with songs from the newer discs. "I think the fans are coming away from shows feeling a part of the Outlaws experience."

Along with founding members Henry Paul and Monte Yoho, the band features several of Southern Rock's most respected veterans: Co-lead guitarist and longtime Outlaw Chris Anderson is well known for his collaborations with artists that include Dickey Betts, Lucinda Williams, Hank Williams Jr., and Skynyrd. Steve Grisham is a former member of the Soldier Of Fortune era Outlaws, a noted songwriter whose tracks include The Henry Paul Band top 40 hit "Keeping Our Love Alive" and a co-founder of the Southern Rock all-stars Brothers Of The Southland. Keyboardist/vocalist Dave Robbins is a co-founding member of Blackhawk and has written hit songs for artists that include Restless Heart, Kenny Rogers and Eric Clapton. Bassist/vocalist Randy Threet has performed with Pam Tillis, Trisha Yearwood and Blackhawk, and is familiar to TV audiences from USA Network's 'Nashville Star'. "From the very beginning, our band had a heart," Monte Yoho says, "for The Outlaws, it's still about the music. And more than ever, it's about live music!"

"Legacy Live" will be released November 11th (USA/Canada November 18th) as a 2CD digipak and download.


CD 1
1. Intro
2. There Goes Another Love Song
3. Hurry Sundown
4. Hidin' Out In Tennessee
5. Freeborn Man
6. Born To Be Bad
7. Song In The Breeze
8. Girl From Ohio
9. Holiday
10. Gunsmoke
11. Grey Ghost

CD 2
1. South Carolina
2. So Long
3. Prisoner
4. Cold Harbor
5. Trail Of Tears
6. It's About Pride
7. Waterhole
8. Knoxville Girl
9. Green Grass & High Tides Forever
10. (Ghost) Riders In The Sky

dow, Saturday, 10 September 2016 01:30 (three years ago) link

O yeah, and speaking one more time of Jim Dandy---this is from what seems to be one of the very first Consumer Guides ever, archived on xgau's site:
The Knowbody Else [Hip, 1969]
A classic white Southern rock band. Despite the terrible group name and the terrible label name (Stax subsidiary) and the terrible cover art, they really make it. Lead singer James Mangrum is a cross between Dr. John and Captain Beefheart, the arrangements are spare and evocative, the songs simple but never banal. Very nice. B
As always, gotta be about the descriptions, not the "grades"--anybody heard this album??

dow, Saturday, 10 September 2016 01:35 (three years ago) link

I've heard it before - didn't sound as inspired as the early BOA stuff. If you've heard "Early Times" I think that's more or less leftovers from the Knowbody Else stuff...

SOMEONE'S got to program the propaganda simulacra (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 12 September 2016 04:22 (three years ago) link

Downloading that Outlaws promo now. Never listened to them before. Kinda hope they're more Molly Hatchet than Marshall Tucker...

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:11 (three years ago) link

I mostly saw them at festivals: seemed like they wanted to be tasteful like Tucker, and they did have some harmonious hits, at least in the South, but the guitar boogie machine monster held forth in the arenas etc.

dow, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:46 (three years ago) link

By "machine monster", I mean something like a big ol' toy, but a loud, cross-country vehicle too.

dow, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:48 (three years ago) link

Most of The Outlaws records are more harmony led country rock. Green Grass and High Tides is kind of an outlier.

earlnash, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 04:55 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Think I mentioned Skydog, the monster Duane Allman box, when it came out on CD a few years ago---back now on ltd. ed. vinyl, and sounding better than ever, according to this extensive review:

dow, Monday, 24 October 2016 15:23 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Well dang--- ahole tendencies at least, judging by his autobio and other accounts---incl. of his earlier drunk-driving adventures-----and it was already the end of an era, ABB-wise, but still:

dow, Saturday, 27 May 2017 19:50 (three years ago) link

Bruce Hampton's sudden death onstage at the climax of his 70th birthday megajam was more upsetting, and don't know that we've ever discussed him here---good thread:
Music to Eat (Hampton Grease Band): C/D

dow, Saturday, 27 May 2017 19:57 (three years ago) link

aw man. RIP Gregg Allman :(

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 May 2017 00:42 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Southern Blood sounds a lot better than I expected, after being disgusted with his moaning and groaning almost (except for the blessed "Instrumental Illness") all over ABB's last studio album, Hittin' The Note(2009). But now I'm thinking I should try again, and haven't heard his 2011 set Low Country Blues atall. So far, some of the tracks on here may lose momentum, but since he only lived to hear four finished, it was producer Don Was's responsibility to tighten up the set. But I've only listened a couple times, and there's some choice cuts on here for sure (must check that Johnny Jenkins album he gets one of these from)

dow, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 01:52 (two years ago) link

Digging the instrumentation here too, especially *these* horns with *this* steel guitar (and the rhythm section).

dow, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 01:54 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Scott Boyer of Cowboy (and more recently the Decoys) has died---bio and comments from Isbell, Hood etc here:

Live, Cowboy could be several things, incl. in there between Traffic and Little Feat---unlike their best known track, "Please Be With Me" w Duane Allman:

dow, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 05:06 (two years ago) link


velko, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 06:07 (two years ago) link

Thanks, hadn't heard that! This 'un is like something unaccountably left off Buffalo Springfield's Last Time Around, but also holds its own---


---from Cowboy - Boyer & Talton (Capricorn 1974) Scott Boyer & Tommy Talton With Chuck Leavell, Jaimoe, Randall Bramblett, Charley Hayward, Johnny Sandlin

dow, Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:18 (two years ago) link

if that doesn't show up here, it's "Everyone Has A Chance To Feel."

dow, Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:19 (two years ago) link

Live, Cowboy eventually could sound kind of in there between Traffic, Little Feat, little bit of early 70s Van Morrison---like Talton, Stewart & Sandlin kinda do here in the studio, on "Happy To Be Alive":


one album that I know of:
T.Talton, B.Stewart, J.Sandlin - Happy To Be Alive (CAPRICORN 1976) Johnny Sandlin - Electric Guitar, Bass Guitar Ed Freeman - Strings, Strings Arrangements, Conductor Bill Stewart - Rhythm Guitar, Drums, Percussion Bill Stewart - Drums Tommy Talton - Guitar, Vocals Guest Musicians:Bonnie Bramlett, Chuck Leavell, Dru Lombar, Joe English, Joe Walk, Scott Boyer, Steve Miller

dow, Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:24 (two years ago) link

Really trying for that 70s radio play, duh, and deservedly so.

dow, Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:25 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

A couple of Cowboy albums I didn't know about, the s/t and an expanded Cowboy: Boyer & Talton, were recently reissued, haven't heard 'em yet---also, here's Tommy Talton talking about the last show with Gregg, in 2016, and a good conversation they had, along with author's mentions of the Gregg albums T played on, ditto ABB LPs (bottom of this page has a link to review of Talton's latest solo alb):

dow, Monday, 2 July 2018 22:42 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Finally got to it--said this just now on Twitter:
Cowboy, Boyer & Talton (Expanded Edition): "It's a long short highway," amen. Bramblett, Leavell, Jaimoe, Sandlin, Hornsby, Bill Stewart, David Brown, Toy Caldwell, Dru Lombar, Charlie Hayward, Giggling Heap, Willietes, 2 bonus workouts from The Gregg Allman Tour. Earned stereo.

Anybody heard the 31rst of February album, the trio's 1968 s/t? Long ago heard the demo released in '72 as Duane & Greg Allman, backed by the trio, mainly remember Greg/Gregg bellerin' "Morning Dew."

dow, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:49 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Blackfoot rawks some serious mullet. "Good Morning" that opens up their 'Marauder' lp kinda has a groove that splits the difference between thrash and the Walbash Cannonball.

earlnash, Sunday, 9 June 2019 13:42 (eleven months ago) link

Rickey Medlocke rules!

brimstead, Monday, 10 June 2019 00:10 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

Never heard a whole Blackfoot album, but they had a decent cover of Spirit's "I Got A Line On You" in the late 70s, kind of a weird time for Southern Rock (post-Skynyrd-plane-crash, for one thing). He was mainly known as a guitarist early on, I think, but Van Zant talked him into drumming for Skyn---last I heard, he was still with the current line-up, singing and guitaring.
Just got this from Big Hassle publicists:

Gregg Allman
Laid Back Deluxe Edition and Gregg Allman Tour - August 30
Allman’s masterful debut solo album, Laid Back, will be remastered and released as an expanded two-disc deluxe edition and reissue on 180-gram vinyl. The deluxe edition features more than two dozen rarities including unreleased demos, outtakes, alternative and new mixes
xpost best Cowboy line-up backing him on the Tour LP. hope there's more involving them on this.

dow, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 01:16 (nine months ago) link

nine months pass...

Outlaws, live "High Tide & Green Grass": nuthin fancy like Allmans or LS, just gettin the job done in '78, as Southern Rock bandwagon headed downhill and some were alreaddy gone:

dow, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:39 (two weeks ago) link

last misspelling unintentional

dow, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:40 (two weeks ago) link

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