C/D: Black Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell"

In general, was Dio "good" for Sabbath?

On Children of the Sea, with the guitar intro and then the lyrics "In the misty morning..." am I the only one who half expects Don Henley to be singing the begining of Hotel California right on top of that?

Finally, my only complaint about Dio-era Sabbath, washat so many songs had to start slowly and softly then build to a big heavy riff. Children of the Sea, Sign of the Souther Cross, etc... Not necessarily bad, but the song writing pattern was reduntant

Heaven & Hell's title track, Neon Knights and *cough* Lonely Is The Word are my three favorites on this album. Children of the sea is pretty fun, but the rest can be fed to the pandas for all I care. I think this might be my favorite album with Dio on it.

I should just make a CDR-comp of his best songs some day, because I love his voice, but I never feel any urge to listen to any of those albums.

Still, "Neon Knights", "Die Young", and "Heaven & Hell" rank as three essential Sabbath tracks.

the breakdown on "die young" is incredible....
guitar solo on "lonely is the word" kills me every time...
what about "walk away"? great rolling bass line, and the song has a different lighter feel than most sabb songs...
agree with all of the above re: "lady evil" "h&h" & "neon nights"...
however, "children of the sea" was always the weakest track for me...

FUCK YES

WE SAIL ACROSS THE AIR, BEFORE WE LEARN TO FLY

LADY EVIL ... EVIL .... SHE'S A MAJESTICAL MYSTERY WOMAN

I don't think there is any question as to how fucking classic this is. And Mob Rules is even better.

I disagree that Mob Rules is better than Heaven and Hell, but they're both pretty freaking great.

THE MOON IS JUST THE SUN AT NIGHT

These guys at work keep telling me that the GZR albums are awesome, and some of them are even into stuff like Headless Cross and TYR. Dare any of you?

this is so great.

honestly dudes, instead of fighting about which is better - mob rules or heaven and hell - i prefer to fantasize about them culling the hottest tracks from both, ditching the few dudes scattered on each album and releasing the GREATEST METAL RECORD EVER!!!!!!!

They tried to do that with that Dio Years comp, but then some asshole thought it would be a good idea to leave off Sign of the Southern Cross.

ooh that's a bummer, great song.

RIIIIIDE OUT! PROTECTORS OF THE REALM!

I think "Neon Knights" could honestly be the greatest Sabbath tune.

It was a terrible move to leave of Sign of the Southern Cross from that comp.

I even love what's considered filler from those two: Wishing Well and Slipping Away. The part of the latter where Iommi and Butler start trading licks is just awesome. And Falling Off the Edge of the World is simply crushing.

times like this i thank god for my ipod, i'm rocking heaven and hell as we speak.

ditching the few dudes scattered on each album

One of the funnier typos I've ever come across!

(And I'll STILL take Born Again (or Technical Ecstasy even) over either of the Dio LPs.)

u mad, at least as far as Technical Ecstasy, I still haven't heard Born Again

I just listened to this for the first time... sooo sick

Children of the Sea was the song Dio wrote during his very first rehearsal with Sabbath. Still one of the best metal songs ever.

Co-wrote anyway.

It was stuck in my head all day.

'Over and Over' sounds a little too much like 'War Pigs' to me but maybe that's the point?

I still am not sure if I like Mob Rules or this better, but "Die Young" is metal awesomeness.

Martin Birch's production work on the two Dio/Sabbath studio albums was really great and a huge improvement on the murky sound that Sabbath got on their last few LPs. Birch was one of the best at early hard rock/heavy metal production.

i think I give the nod to Mob Rules. blended all Sab eras beautifully, plus "Sign of the Southern Cross".

American metal guys in the 70s were hard to come by. Is Dio like the only one or what? I guess there's Montrose

Sometimes I think "Lady Evil" is the greatest Sabbath song of all time. It has it all...just no Ozzy. And I don't really even like Dio or Heaven and Hell.

I can listen to that guitar and bass riff all fucking day.

that song would suck with Ozzy, Dio era sabbath rules

^

cannot be overstated

I mean, I love Ozzy Sabbath but Dio Sabbath is a whole other level

My thoughts on Ozzy Sabbath vs. Dio Sabbath, written in 2007 but I stand by everything.

I agree with that totally. It's impossible to treat 'Black Sabbath' as one catalogue of music, because Ozzy and Dio eras are so completely diffrent.

dio sabbath >>>>>>>

It's kind of a shame that the Dio era Sabbath couldn't get along and finally broke up basically over mixing a live record. The whole story might have been quite a bit different for Sabbath and Dio if that band could have kept going.

I know the business reasons why the band kept being called Sabbath, but I think it might have been a totally different angle on that group if it would have been known by a different name.

I remember as a kid that version of Sabbath toured a few times with Blue Oyster Cult. I was way too young to see the show, but that would have been a killer arena metal show to have gone to.

The secret weapon on the title track is Bill’s swing