New Radicals: C/D?

In any event, I hated it then, and I hate it now.

I should add that I like Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too quite a bit, too...

I was reminded of her earlier this year when one of the songs from that record ("Just Missed the Train") turned up on the Kelly Clarkson disc. Went looking around and found out she completed an album in 1999 called Portable Life which never got released by MCA. Promo copies go on eBay for $60 or $70, so I've been scoping the used bins -- to no avail.

As for the Brisebois thing, I think she was sort of "in the band," but it was pretty much all him and sessioniers. Didn't know about the Clarkson thing.

He was also on the recent Mel C record, I believe...

He had a hand in the Justin Guarini album too...for shame!

The Alexander-in-name "solo records" are very funny.

-- Andrew Frye (andrewjfry...), August 3rd, 2003."

oh man...I have a very distinct memory of being in a car with my brother the first time either of us heard it on the radio, and we both said "is this World Party?"

singer/songwriter said he wants to focus his efforts on producing. "I view myself much the same as a just-getting-started Babyface," he said in a statement, referring to the producer of such hit acts as Mary J. Blige, Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men and Madonna. Alexander said he will produce an album, due in September, by singer/actress Danielle Brisebois, who was a member of the New Radicals. "Over the last several months, I'd lost interest in fronting a one-hit wonder to the point that I was wearing a hat while performing so that people wouldn't see my lack of enthusiasm," Alexander said.

It suddenly occurs to me I don't know if I've ever heard this song. I THOUGHT I did.

Not EVERYTHING everything. ;-) Anyway, I know I must have, it's just not sticking in the memory.

The album's first track is good, but it rips off Depeche Mode's 'Just Can't get Enough', probably winkingly. I picked it up a few months back for 2.99; definitely worth the price.

"If I could ask god just one question...why arn't you here with me...TONIGHT!?"

shivers and goosebumps all around

Yes, this song was on heavy rotation when we finally got cable and could watch music TV, along with Groovejet and Tender

I loved "Steal My Sunshine," H-A-T-E-D "Closing Time"

― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Thursday, January 21, 2021 12:33 PM (fifty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i hated most alternative pop, or at least, late 90s alternative pop with generic vocals. The Flys "Got You Where I Want You" being a prime example.

yet I liked Econoline Crush "All That You Are", *Shrug*

i am basically reliving 1999 now and it's a mixed bag of emotions.

Also, I was under the impression for a good while that the New Radicals were Canadian because I confused the Staten Island Mall in the video with the Yorkdale Mall in Toronto.

Ha, I didn't know Econoline Crush were known outside Canada. (Thought that was called "Shooting Star"?) That was probably my actual most-hated band.

might have been called shooting star.

two of their singles got played a bit here

Totally forgot about Closing Time, fuck that song

Yeah, Len is different. But speak of the devil, "Torn," the Imbruglia version, was right around this time, too. Post the peak of Letters to Cleo and Better Than Ezra, though, two bands I'm not sure I've ever heard whose names I always get confused.

I read that book about "Closing Time" long before I ever heard the song. Feel like there is at least one other thread about songs like that.

The only noteworthy thing about "Closing Time" is that the dude managed to pull off what the New Radicals guy did (and Rob Thomas?) and become a go-to songwriter for other acts. There was a really good story about "Closing Time" in TapeOp recently, though. I guess the future hit version was done, and the band liked the results, but the label wanted to give them extra money to work on it some more. The manager or producer pulls Dan Wilson aside and makes a really smart point: if there are two versions of the song, and one is the one you like and one is the one the label spent a bunch of extra money on, which one do you think they're going to pick? So they stuck with the original one.

I read that book about "Closing Time"

?!?

d40 are you sure you're not creating a micro generation out of like 4 tweets he saw yesterday

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:17 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

are you suggesting there are flaws in the methodology of whiney's hipster studies

I would have been put off by the iconography too, the twat in the hat with his big shoes - like the dude had cycled through every other style in his desperation to get noticed and had seized on Manchester 10 years after everyone else.

― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:19 AM (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a very non american perspective on an american artist lol

i still dont get what was wrong w the hat ...

id say his image overall ... the ringer tee and his age .. made me think of the slightly older / young gen x dude guiding me (i was 16 at the time) to a kind of leftist optimism ... feel like it resonated in a pretty unique way for its time

I like "closing time" tbh

in high school we sang "Farting Time"

cos we were 'edgy'

I’ll slap the face of anyone who speaks ill of the unadultered joy of “steal my sunshine”.

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/13/books/sex-no-drugs-no-panic-attacks-yes.html

Dan Wilson has been behind some music I like, but the lyric of "Closing Time" is so clunky that its kinda surprising that he became this big journeyman songwriter (or maybe not, since that song was huge).

every twat at a british music festival had been wearing that exact hat for the previous decade, it was a handy shorthand for who not to talk to.

xp

Ah, ok. I was thinking there was some book-length critical analysis of "Closing Time" out there...

the melody was ear-wormy and the type of thing you could hum. it was one of those songs like Staind's "It's Been a While" where people only knew the main refrain so they'd just be at school/working humming:

"Closing time
mumbabumbanurphur
dahdahdahdahdahdah something's end

I know who i want to take me home!"

"It's been a while
Since muddabuddabrruhburrrburrrr
It's been a while
Mubbbadduddaaburrbrrburrr"

Have to agree that the image of a guy in Adidas trainers and a buckethat singing a sunny power-pop song about smashing the establishment felt like a strange juxtaposition

There is a book about that band’s rise & fall, by the drummer; it (naturally) discusses “Closing Time” at length: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/168438/so-you-wanna-be-a-rock-and-roll-star-by-jacob-slichter/

are you suggesting there are flaws in the methodology of whiney's hipster studies

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, January 21, 2021 1:18 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Here's the graph

Here's the "You Get What You Give" micro-generation line graph

• Most passionate number of likes from 34-38 y/o group
• Biggest dissension in the 40-44 y/o group
• Highest concentration of clueless ppl are 43-48 y/o pic.twitter.com/M4gq0jG09L

— Christopher R. Weingarten (@1000TimesYes) January 21, 2021

always thought he sounded like one of the Sifl & Olly dudes

There is a book about that band’s rise & fall, by the drummer; it (naturally) discusses “Closing Time” at length: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/168438/so-you-wanna-be-a-rock-and-roll-star-by-jacob-slichter/

― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Thursday, January 21, 2021 1:05 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've read this - it's pretty amusing

"in need of a miracle" is my fav deep cut

― boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 2:23 PM (yesterday)

This is correct.

too many notes

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, January 21, 2021 4:52 AM (five hours ago)

I appreciate this.

I showed my dad this performance and he laughed and laughed. We're going to listen to this album again on my next night off.

i... didn't foresee this song being like a dad / son thing?

My dad liked "You Get What You Give" as well. I'm pretty sure I remember him thinking it was Mick Jagger at first.

Yeah, I can hear that.

I thought it was World Party.

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nothing
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no way is the vocal on "Got You Where I Want You" generic --- dude is giving his all to a very specific imitation of Chris Cornell

and somehow, it rules

(why Samson loved Delilah)

i... didn't foresee this song being like a dad / son thing?

― satanist of size (map), Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:31 AM (fifty-nine minutes ago)

Maybe it's an age thing? I'm 31, and my dad is 70. I definitely think he thought it was older than it was, and so did our radio station, because it was on the classic rock station when he first heard it when it came out.

Isn't the whole reason they reformed for the inauguration that the song was a father/son thing for Joe and Beau Biden?

Great reason, honestly.

I hated this song at the time, but that's because I hated most things at the time-- I was a fat queer kid who was really into hardcore and crustpunk.

Now I think it's pretty good.

And I'm 36, fwiw

Feel like the inaugural performance was really missing the piano. It was too quiet. That song is all about the piano to me.

yeah it was definitely low in the mix

so this had to have been the most dad rock version of this track -- at least live

not that the world is clamouring for more controversy, but totally omitting the last part was lame

woulda made the song sound even more dated.

Beck? Hanson? Manson?

throw in a Everlast ref and we complete the cycle

so, not necessarily singing it word for word, but changing it up to fit with the times while still keeping the same intent

but considering this was a song beau used to listen to a lot, maybe biden had other reasons to have them perform

pretty sure 50% of my love for that song is dedicated to the fact of my upbringing and seeing that inside-out Mickey Mouse shirt I used to wear when I was 7.

Let’s talk Fuel.

woulda made the song sound even more dated.

yeah, keeping the bit about the US' twisted health insurance system directly leading to preventable deaths would have totally sounded out of date

I was referring to the musician part of that coda but i take your point

Feel like the inaugural performance was really missing the piano. It was too quiet. That song is all about the piano to me.

Old Gregg was weird to see, his front teeth are still cute, but:

Yeah, "You Get What You Give" was used in an episode of Glee, but that almost a decade ago.

THIS is what made me ponder my own mortality, holy fucking shit

I just came here to make a point about the bucket hat— my friend's kids who are in high school have been rocking these. The kids are into late 90s fashion/shit from right before they were born, from what I can tell.

I am about Brian Johnson's hat