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Why is it so hard to get a cd copy of the new Luomo album in the US?

hector (hector), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 04:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Bad distro options due to the collapse of Safety In Numbers and a few other like-minded distros?

Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 04:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

is it actually available anywhere on cd? i was just in Barcelona and bought the vinyl version of it cause the guy at the record store said that it wasn't coming out on cd at all

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 04:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.backpage.de/bp/productdetails.do?Kuenstler_Nr=249995

Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 04:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

If you really want it, you can get it at Other Music.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 04:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I got it this w-e in Prague, of all places..
Still unconvinced, but then again I was never sold on 'Vocal City' either..

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 07:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I know it's getting a proper CD release though BMG here in the Netherlands on August 15, so maybe that's also the case elsewehere.

JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 08:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i got it on vinyl coz of lack of cd. actually, there is another thread about this somewhere

Robin Goad (rgoad), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the info.

hector (hector), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 16:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

forcedexposure.com has it on CD - it's freaking 30 bucks tho!

jason m. (jason m), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 16:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i don't see it at FE, unless everyone that just saw this thread went there and bought them all up

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 16:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I got it for $18 on CD through Force Tracks a month or two ago...

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 17:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is saw a cd-copy at a local recordstore last week for 25 Euros. Already have the vinyl version which sounds divine.

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 17:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

dang, you're right - FE is out. huh. well, they *did* have it.

jason m. (jason m), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 18:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

we still haven't gotten copies at amoeba in SF, even though vocalcity still gets restocked regularly. i listened to the vinyl and at first listen thought there were way more vocals than vocalcity...and it was a bit of a turnoff. can anyone give me a good comparison review?

heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 19:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i just got it through other music in new york on cd although it was $27.00. http://www.othermusic.com

hector (hector), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 20:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is the vers. of "Present Lover" on Digital Disco the same as the one on the album?

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ouch - maybe that's why our buyer hasn't picked it up yet -- it's tough enough getting people to buy $20 imports let alone $30. what's with the ridiculous price?

heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

No EFA to save the day.

Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Mark - it's slightly different, perhaps ever so slightly inferior... although I only say that because they extend that synth-guitar solo from its interlude right through to the end, which means it overshadows slightly my favourite riff in the whole track which comes in near the end.

Luckily there's "Could Be Like This", which is like "The Present Lover" mark 2 (slightly less vocals) and is possibly (gasp) BETTER.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 31 July 2003 00:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well I downloaded it but it has the copy-protection bleeps (I've never run accross these before) -- there's 12 hours down the drain. I hope it comes out on CD in the States eventually.

Anyway, I love it. Not sure yet how I would rank it next to Vocalcity but v. nice.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 1 August 2003 23:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i saw luomo live less than a month ago. VD signed my ticket! He is immensly beautiful :)

Sandra Georgijevska (san), Sunday, 3 August 2003 00:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Can anyone kindly tell me what (if anything) Mr Delay is up to at the moment?

adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 8 August 2004 18:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
Sure Adam!

Mutualism reports a new Luomo album in the works for 2006. Plus Vocalcity is being reissued this year on his own label as all Force stuff is out of print.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a real live British pub hooligan (nordicskilla), Sunday, 26 June 2005 05:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I get to buy Volcacity again!

a real live British pub hooligan (nordicskilla), Sunday, 26 June 2005 05:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What's up with Delay's "Four Quarters"? Any word on when it's coming out yet?

Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 26 June 2005 05:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It says August in Michael's link.

a real live British pub hooligan (nordicskilla), Sunday, 26 June 2005 05:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
from huumerecordings.com:

FORTHCOMING REMIXES:

THE BLACK DICE
LUOMO REMIX
(DFA RECORDS)


i wonder...

manuel (manuel), Thursday, 28 July 2005 18:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Jeez, for a moment I was hoping this new message was going to say something like: The Genius of Love, new album by Luomo. Release date 28 september 2005. Ah well, life goes on. :)

Omar (Omar), Thursday, 28 July 2005 19:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

maybe this is more likely to please you Omar (from the same website):

RHYTHM&SOUND
VLADISLAV DELAY REMIX
(BASIC CHANNEL)

willem (willem), Thursday, 28 July 2005 19:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm happy. :)

Omar (Omar), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh me too! where's adam?

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 28 July 2005 21:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

luomo + black dice = omgwtf?!?

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 28 July 2005 22:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I really need to buy "the present lover"!

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 29 July 2005 05:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you def need to.

nathalie's body's designed for two (stevie nixed), Friday, 29 July 2005 06:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

WHEN IS THE NEW ALBUM WHEN IS THE NEW ALBUM?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 29 July 2005 06:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If there´s anyone capable of reading Spanish i´am gonna facilitate a website from canary islands in order to enjoy a funny interview with "V" the great
http://www.dodezine.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=67&mode=nested&order=0&thold=0

You can also add a comment and vote for it if you are keen on it.

Thanks

israel duchement, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the snatch of the "smiling off" remix i heard was wunderfull

Beta (abeta), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If the promo is anything to go on, the new artwork for "Vocalcity" sucks bigtime.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 15 August 2005 03:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Imagine this, but saying "Luomovocalcityhuume04" in a slightly wavey font instead of Manic Steet Preachers:

http://www.akrue.privat.t-online.de/manic.jpg

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 15 August 2005 03:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Like this?

http://www.boomkat.com/media/image/Luomo-VocalCity.jpg

Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 15 August 2005 05:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

any extras on the rerelease?

manuel (manuel), Monday, 15 August 2005 06:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's it TT.

No extras, although the back says "Won't play on computers, huh?"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 15 August 2005 08:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

whats the "hume04" mean?

Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

pretty sure that's the label and release number

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It means it is the fourth release on Huume.

xp!

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It means Mr Huume doesn't have to work a dayjob no more. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sorry, John Huume

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i think i heard that vlad was supposedly loaded.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you reviewed it and got to keep a copy

Takeshi Kitteno (admrl), Friday, 23 September 2011 22:26 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah but it's actually out now too

lex pretend, Friday, 23 September 2011 22:28 (six years ago) Permalink

3 October I think.

Tim F, Friday, 23 September 2011 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Such is the state of my cred with record labels slash "the industry" that I have to listen to it on stream for review purposes.

Tim F, Friday, 23 September 2011 22:31 (six years ago) Permalink

the release date i was told was 18 sep?

having to stream albums sucks, i refuse to review based on them unless there's no other option

lex pretend, Friday, 23 September 2011 22:44 (six years ago) Permalink

pushed back

Tim F, Friday, 23 September 2011 22:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Re the album itself, I expect I'll end up liking it less than Convivial (and Vocalcity and The Present Lover) but a lot more than Paper Tigers.

Tim F, Friday, 23 September 2011 23:06 (six years ago) Permalink

From what I've heard of it, if Convivial was Uusitalo with vocals Plus is Sistol with vocals.

Jedmond, Friday, 23 September 2011 23:07 (six years ago) Permalink

From memory Lex our favourite tracks on Convivial were rather different and I suspect that I can see in that the basis of our convergence w/r/t the new one.

Tim F, Friday, 23 September 2011 23:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Really Don't Mind is still better than anything on The Present Lover. Albeit just.

Jedmond, Friday, 23 September 2011 23:08 (six years ago) Permalink

eh

sorry for party blogging (D-40), Friday, 23 September 2011 23:11 (six years ago) Permalink

better than "What Good"??! o_O

feel like he lost all his finesse with the vocal cut-up shtick on Paper Tigers, "Really Don't Mind" included.

handy ban (lou), Friday, 23 September 2011 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

I almost wish I hadn't read this, I may take a pill and lie in bed until October when I can maybe get my hands on it!

Die, Foghat, Die (Mount Cleaners), Friday, 23 September 2011 23:24 (six years ago) Permalink

What Good is only the fourth or fifth best track on The Present Lover (which is why TPL is still a good chunk better than PT).

Jedmond, Friday, 23 September 2011 23:36 (six years ago) Permalink

RIP Luomo
2000 AD - 2000 AD

elan, Friday, 23 September 2011 23:47 (six years ago) Permalink

It seems weird to say, but what the best material on the new album (e.g. "Make My Day", "Happy Strong") puts me in mind of is Michael Mayer crossed with Carl Craig.

What's definitely gone is the shimmer that's basically been Luomo's calling card since "The Present Lover".

Tim F, Friday, 23 September 2011 23:51 (six years ago) Permalink

From memory Lex our favourite tracks on Convivial were rather different and I suspect that I can see in that the basis of our convergence w/r/t the new one.

hmm, i'm not sure - i really liked convivial overall, but i'm not really after another vocal-led pop album from luomo per se, but it's the lack of shimmer and finesse you and lou correctly identify that makes it so whatever to me. i mean, there's stuff to enjoy about it, certainly, i gave it 3/5 - "how you look" is a bit H&LA and it's a good look, love the rattling percussion on "good stuff". it's just, you know...your typical three-star album. nice moments but not special.

lex pretend, Saturday, 24 September 2011 10:33 (six years ago) Permalink

So far my barrier to Plus is the vocals. On Convivial and PL especially the vocals were so distinctive, it made them a real highlight. I'm only streaming this at the moment so I'll wait judgment until I've purchased a CD copy. It took me a few listens to appreciate Convivial anyway.

mmmm, Sunday, 25 September 2011 12:30 (six years ago) Permalink

The vocals definitely are basically just nominal structures around which to weave the grooves, which the exceptions of "Form In Void" and "Immaculate Motive" perhaps. Can't really see disliking them per se, but certainly they're not in any way haunting/charming like TPL's vocals often were. OTOH, at least they don't get in the way like they so often do on the Art Department album (which in some senses is a good point of comparison for this album).

As I said originally I can definitely get people saying "this has abandoned too many of the things that made me love Luomo to really adore it." It's really just good luck (for me) that Sasu has shifted towards another aesthetic (hyper-dense percussive layered house) that I feel very close to. If someone on Get Physical or Poker Flat or Kompakt had released this album at any time in the last 10 years I'm thinking it would have been top ten of that year for me.

I feel "Good Stuff" is the weakest track actually - 9 minutes spent barely building on its opening premise. Whereas look how much ground "Form In Void" covers in 4.

Tim F, Sunday, 25 September 2011 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

You really love hyperrhythmic percussive ish don't you Tim! Is this a thing that comes out of being a jungle fan I wonder - I was too young for any of that and it's not something I especially prioritise over texture and groove.

I thought the vox were kinda dull depeche modeisms tbh, not actively annoying a la art dept tho.

lex pretend, Monday, 26 September 2011 07:23 (six years ago) Permalink

You really love hyperrhythmic percussive ish don't you Tim! Is this a thing that comes out of being a jungle fan I wonder - I was too young for any of that and it's not something I especially prioritise over texture and groove.

Absolutely, though I got into jungle and uk garage simultaneously and think the comes from that combination more than either alone.

I definitely think this album devalues texture (at least compared to his prior best work) as part of beefing up the role of rhythm - esp. vis a vis The Present Lover which is maybe its polar opposite, quite simple rhythms but absurdly swollen textures. Paper Tigers, of course, was basically Luomo indulging in luomoesque textures but with no real purpose or function (and his weakest rhythms).

("groove" is more the unifyer of how all these things plus melody move your body)

The part of Convivial that I feel the best tracks here (especialy "Make My Day" the second half of which is just insane, esp. turned up to ear-bleed volumes) pick up on is the second half of "Slow Dying Places", that sense of endlessly spiralling upward intensity.

What I would have loved but sadly isn't here is more of the vaguely Carribean snare action from "Gets Along Fine".

Tim F, Monday, 26 September 2011 08:15 (six years ago) Permalink

well excited about the new one

i don't know how you guys can absorb this music so fast. i'm still getting to grips with the new ones. didn't like either of them on first listen.

Crackle Box, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I definitely think this album devalues texture (at least compared to his prior best work) as part of beefing up the role of rhythm - esp. vis a vis The Present Lover which is maybe its polar opposite, quite simple rhythms but absurdly swollen textures.

It's not either/or though is it? A lot of the textural interest on Vocalcity comes from changing and evolving rhythms brushing up against each other in different ways.

The second half of Slow Dying Places is my favourite part of Convivial, give or take an Apparat collaboration here or there, but actually I think this album plays it quite straight rhythmically in comparison. Admittedly there might be some elements than aren't coming through in the stream.

But it's really good nonetheless, and surprisingly ravey and bleepy for Luomo. The Depeche Mode-style vocals work, I think, because there's a slightly colder, more warehousey feel to the whole sound.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 08:52 (six years ago) Permalink

But yeah, to an extent this sounds like it could have been made by anyone. But if anyone had made it, it would still be really good, so...

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 08:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Also for all the talk of shimmer and finesse and texture what's rarely commented upon with Luomo is how rich and satisfying his basslines are and those are all present and correct.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 08:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah it's not either / or, and obv. by any other producer's standards Plus would seem texturally gorgeous, voluptuous et. al. These are all matters of degree.

It's not so much that Plus is rhythmically more dense or intricate than before, rather that because the grooves are more targeted at the dancefloor the effect is different - e.g. the way the groove seems to shudder with built-up friction on "Happy Strong".

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 09:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"Make My Day" is like "Slow Dying Places" with all the clicks and whirs and jitter riffs replaced with conventional kicks, snares, handclaps etc. I can see why this would disappoint some but I think it works tremendously.

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 09:51 (six years ago) Permalink

^ Except I think Make My Day is more gradual in its transition. Honestly I'm a bit relieved, I wasn't that impressed with the three that had been around on soundcloud for ages - Good Stuff, Happy Strong & Spy - but they're the weakest tracks on the album. How You Look, Make My Day & Form In Void are the repeaters for me at the moment.

Jedmond, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 10:30 (six years ago) Permalink

And yeah, Moodmusic is the perfect label for this to be on. We can only hope for a DJ Naughty remix (circa 2004-5).

Jedmond, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 10:33 (six years ago) Permalink

The drums are definitely bigger on Plus than on any other Luomo that I've heard.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 10:39 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

surprised no one is talking about Plus. "Good Stuff" is on repeat here.

skip, Monday, 14 November 2011 00:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I talked about it a lot upthread. But "Good Stuff" is def. my least favourite track.

Tim F, Monday, 14 November 2011 00:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Need to spend some time with Plus but I'm to afraid this guy is diminishing returns.

mmmm, Monday, 14 November 2011 00:22 (five years ago) Permalink

to _ too

mmmm, Monday, 14 November 2011 00:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I should learn English at some point.

mmmm, Monday, 14 November 2011 00:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Diminishing returns? Vocal City > Convivial = The Present Lover > Plus >> Paper Tigers. No diminish returns, yet. Also Plus, Sistol, and to a lesser degree the Quartet show Sasu having fun with new ideas - even if the execution isn't always quite there.

Jedmond, Monday, 14 November 2011 00:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Latoma EP on echocord is pretty great.

where is fake disneyworld (blank), Monday, 14 November 2011 01:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I enjoy "Plus" a lot, "Spy" especially. Jedmond OTM.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 14 November 2011 03:12 (five years ago) Permalink

i'd put plus over convivial and TPL over both. vocal city on top, of course.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 14 November 2011 05:06 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

enjoying this remix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNbBd-rTjF8&feature=related

skip, Saturday, 28 January 2012 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Wow, is this good. I can't believe it came out of the Arctic Circle. I might finally break down and get the import!

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners) (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:32 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

I gave up and ordered the CD. I am so excited it is coming later this week. My new speakers are hooked up and ready. Listening to the singles NONSTOP. This is the real sh--!

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Trucks of my Tears (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 27 February 2012 16:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Tim F. is right, it has a very dense sound, it's kind of weird. Certainly worth your time, but don't expect to be blown away at first. Holding out hope that it gets better.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Wendy Carlos the Jackal (Mount Cleaners), Saturday, 3 March 2012 20:03 (five years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

Want to make one of those "brain lighting up" meme images but with "Tessio" --> "Synkro" --> "The Right Wing".

Tim F, Sunday, 18 June 2017 00:46 (three months ago) Permalink

the devil's advocate in me adds a fourth image that's just the cover image of The Present Lover

mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 00:25 (three months ago) Permalink

this is where I admit I own almost all the vladislav delay releases on physical media

Vocalcity is still one of my go-to albums to throw on when I'm tired and not quite ready to fall asleep in bed. just let my mind wander

mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 00:28 (three months ago) Permalink

sometimes i have black coffee and i think "should i also have feta cheese?"

nomar, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 00:36 (three months ago) Permalink

a contrasting palate palette

mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 00:39 (three months ago) Permalink


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