Destiny's Child: Classic Or Dud

As for me, well, I like some Destiny's Child songs, but not enough to call them classic.

Classic DC singles for me: "Say My Name", "Independent Women". "Hey Ladies" should have been a single. "Bills Bills Bills" is nearly classic.

And Otis is right about the lyrics.

One thing that I've wondered though is this: now that the full-on ballads are not getting single releases, are they going to keep on cropping up like bad smells in the second half of all the albums? Pink did a fairly ballad light album (three present, and only one of them didn't have a strong beat) but otherwise the onslaught has continued (see Kandi and Mya). I'm hoping they'll simply stop making the crap stuff and only put out modified beat-heavy ballads eg. "Say My Name" and "Get Along With You". I'm guessing _Survivors_ (the new DC album) is gonna clinch it.

So, in short, Destiny's Child are good but they aren't as good as everyone says they are. Neither classic nor dud. Sort of occupying that Beck area ;)

* Is it just me or do those songs look ridiculous side by side?

As for "True Pop Is Ephemeral" - as Mike said, nothing's really ephemeral, especially nowadays. I would say that the best music is generally recorded without one eye on the posterity clock, though: rock history is a distraction from the matter at hand (whatever *that* is).

Mind you, this is coming from someone who said well before their new album was forced upon the world that Destiny's Child are overrated, and nearly had an anuerism reading posts on a mailing list about how fantastic, best album ever, best song ever, etc etc etfuckingcetera.

A better question would be if Beyonce Knowles was ugly (and quite frankly, I STILL don't think she is all that), would anyone give a shit about Destiny's Child? The answer is NO in my mind but of course it's rhetorical so there's no real answer but it's just something that annoys me a little bit. The thing is, they AREN'T doing anything that exciting or fabulous or so heads and tails above everyone else that they deserve the masturbation CERTAIN PEOPLE give to them. They're just a good pop band. I can name plenty of pop bands who are more consistent or have better singles though.

So yeah, I'm almost starting to lean towards dud, even though I LIKE DC, just because of the way a handful of people regard them. God forbid Beyonce gains 20lbs, ya know?

The Destiny's Child review in the new Village Voice kinda nails Beyonce Knowles to the wall. It's all based on lyrics, mind you, but boy does she come on like a spoiled brat.

thankfully, perhaps, i read very little about beyonce and, yes, she's always struck me as a diana ross in waiting. but here's what i find interesting: she's young, she's rich, she's attractive, and she wrote and produced the album...and yet she's also, i think it's fair to say, categorized as a bitch, as a spoiled brat by the writer, and by others doubtlessly. so why isn't she just "talented"? or "aggressive"? or "tough"? why isn't she celebrated for being a young african-american woman in charge of her career, as li'l kim was in the village voice (and possibly by the same writer)? i don't really have an answer to that but i do think it's something to think about.

Diva behavior is a crime, while rock-star decadence and acting out is applauded. Lil Kim's schtick (sorry Omar!) usually falls more into the latter category, hence the critical fawning.

Of course, I love nothing so much as rock decadence.

ob: i like it when dc singles come on the radio.

Aaliyah is way better looking than Beyonce. What the hell crack are people on to call her "barely good looking"? How did I let that one slip?

Clearly, Otis should run President. :)

Anyhow, she's easily WAY prettier than anyone in Destiny's Child, Beyonce included, who looks like someone else to me but I can't place it.

Back to the subject: "Bootylicious" has begun getting play on the airwaves. I love it. How do others feel?

As for Bootylicious, it's a good song, I like it even if it's got completely naff lyrics and I'd rather listen to Play. It's definitely one of the better tracks off the album, which I find completely unimpressive (on par with their other albums then).

As for Pink, she is filthy disgusting. She looks like she has gingivitis or something making her mouth curl up perpetually. Aaliyah is smooth and sexy and exotic; Pink is a girl who works at Tower Records.

Never mind, as long as people keep saying Pink is hot and Aaliyah is unattractive, I know I have my shot still.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8142864.stm

But I'm in the freaking West End! I'm the first African-American woman to play his role in the West End!

"Don't Cry For Me Dear Beyonce..."

can anybody hit me up w/ a decent mp3 of 2-step?

lol @ me talking about Nicole Scherzinger 9 years ago

bump for peak traffic btw

why wasn't "So Good" ever a single?

Really into "girl" atm

It's kinda shocking how poorly their hits have aged (to my ears)! I really liked them at the time, compared to other stuff that was on the radio, but now the Timbaland-influenced production that was in style at the time just sounds so tinny and frenetic, like five games of racquetball being played in the same court. It was hearing Jumpin' Jumpin' on the radio recently in particular that made me wrinkle my nose and have whatever the opposite feeling of nostalgia is

I kinda see what you mean but I still find most of Survivor's hits pretty cool and so are "Say My Name", "Bills"...
The difference for me is mostly that in retrospect, I find their early stuff, and many Timbaland and other production of that time, less revolutionary/groundbreaking and more a natural evolution of New Jack and early/mid 90s RnB.

i still like most of their hits *shrug*

i may like "jumpin' jumpin'" better than i did when it was last on the radio b/c it was so overplayed back then that it had kind of soured on me