The Neptunes - classic or dud?

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I've been living with a promo copy of N*E*R*D's "In Search Of..." album for two months now and it's finally coming out next week. If this turns out to be my album of the year, I'm not complaining. The first time I heard a Neptunes production was Noreaga's "SuperThug". Then Ol' Dirty Bastard, Kelis, Mystikal, Jay-Z... Classic! These days the Neptunes are everywhere and you can spot their productions a mile off. Are they getting predictable or is the world becoming a better place for it?

JoB, Thursday, 2 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Both.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Thought there must be a thread on this. Time to revive. Perhaps post- I'm A Slave 4 U there'll be more responses.

Heard the second Kelis LP yesterday, and immediately bought it and played it through twice in succession at home (v. unusual for me). Kelis herself has more co-writing credits than on 'Kaleidoscope', but the songs themselves barely register. What does register strongly are the arrangements and production. It's a Neptunes showcase, basically: an endless string of quality pop/R&B moments. On the basis of this alone, Classic.

Jeff W, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Jeff's comments on Kelis = almost exactly what I thought from what I've heard, and I've heard about half. The songs aren't that strong, but the hooks, the vocals, the production and the, er, 'aura' all work separately to make up for it. In that sense, maybe the new Neptunes + Kelis stuff is closer to the R&B Moroder + Donna Summer equation that people throw at Aaliyah and Timbaland (Aaliyah's songs are generally too fully-formed and involving, methinks) than it actually is to A + T. I can almost imagine Kelis improvising a lot of her stuff on the top of these grooves.

I want to get the album before I pronounce judgement on this stuff - of what I've heard only "Popular Thug" totally arrests me. I still think Kelis is the Neptunes' best vocalist though (maybe tied with Mystikal) - she invests even the weakest stuff with her own personality, and I love the way her vocals work against the groove in the music. The inability to do the latter is why so many other artists' Neptunes productions sound formulaic.

Tim, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

best Nep voxist = Ludacris shurely? works his voice against, with, crawlin all over and around it, poppin his head out. having never heard the kelis.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Indeed, Ludacris does work well, but while on something like "Southern hospitality" where he'd be snatching the groove up and launching it towards you, Kelis sort of disappears and becomes an internal mechanism of the groove itself. So on "Young Fresh n New" or "Digital World" (2 of my fav. off Wanderland), the Neptunes and Kelis become a reciprocal collaboration rather than an instance of headstrong artist riding over beat. Rather than spearheading the productions (as a proper songstress may) Kelis embodies them, and when we're talking about the Neptunes, this is most often a very good thing.

Honda, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Southern Hospitality" is indeed marvellous, but what else have the Neps and Luda done together? At any rate, Ludacris doesn't need the Neptunes like Kelis and perhaps Mystikal do.

Tim, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a Neptunes mix of "Fatty Girl" although Ludacris is only 1/3 of that track.

Honda, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Best neptunes artist = ODB. They should do more for him. He should do more. Tim is right about Luda, he has Organized Noize.

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Please somebody tell me why I should like these guys. I've been listening to that lapdance song, and other stuff off of NERD, and I just... I can't... I don't get it at all.

Dan I., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Neptunes are no doubt classic. There is no other producer with as nearly as many hits made as the Neptunes. As far artists go, I'd say Kelis and ODB absolutely need beats to thrive off of in order to make good music, but skilled artists like Jay-Z and Ludacris can make their music move regardless of producer. Regardless, Neptunes are the ilest producers in the hip-hop industry to date.

Noyze, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't the Neptunes do some work with Britney Spears? I seem to remember Kruder & Dorfmeister turning down Madonna or something like that... Anyway--to hell with N*E*R*D and any band that forces my fingers to hit shift/8.

Tim DiGravina, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There is no other producer with as nearly as many hits made as the Neptunes.

But is that always the best standard? (aka, Eternal Question about Art #130) Does remind me that I need to dig out the original mix of In Search Of again...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I've always liked them, but what makes them classic? They produced "Rump Shaker"! Or at least that's what I've read. They've been around longer than I thought.. yikes.

Bobby Gray, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

they're ok. they dont make my dick hard or anything. they're pretty stupid and pretentious when they comment on society and politics. i give them a 5 on my funk-o-meter.

chaki, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i think the neptues does a good deed to the hip hop world out there, p.diddy's song "diddy" would be hopeless without the vocals,and jayz too even rayj's song wait a miute peace out signed by a bbbiiiiiggggggggggg ja rule fan

natesha rowe, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I've always liked them, but what makes them classic?

They produced "Rump Shaker"!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Neptunes are the phatest producers in music. Sure, their beats are all similar and predictable, but who cares? You can listen to them over and over again without getting tired of them. It's come to a point that an album becomes twice as good just because of a single Neptunes beat. Neptunes are classics and they are here to stay. Keep it up Pharrell and Chad.

James Wilson, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's time and the right time has come 4 them 2 do what they have got 2 do! The NEPS. be blow'n my mind with all there good stuff! It's a whole new world, can't be compared with noth'n "classic or dud".It's like things U like... ,U like it ...U want it...U buy it... ,"untill"...U C someth'n ELSE 'till that time your happy2behappy I personally respect theyre whole 'doin'...'smart guy's...they do what they do and everybody starts askin questions start think'n that's what makes it different ... Cuz there izz something 2 search 4... they have my respect.ciau..

Ryan Ashley Sariman, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

True, theyve done alot of good stuff, but i dont think they did "rump shaker"! I would assume that one was produced by teddy riley since he was in the song, not to mention theyve only been around for about 5 years (thats what their site said). Any ways i heard their preview on the website and thought it was pretty dope, but wondered if anyone knew where i could download the album? i know there are two different versions, the original and then they re-did it with live instruments, and i wouldnt mind hearing both. Anyways "holla back" (another song they produced)

Jack Black, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Teddy Riley produced "Rump Shaker", but one of the 'Tunes wrote one of the raps. They might've had a hand in producing it as well, as they were proteges of his, but it was billed as Teddy Riley.

Keiko, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ok, the new version of In Search Of is finally about to come out, and i've read a few reviews, but i don't think i've yet heard anything from anyone who's heard both versions and has given a fair comparison of whether it's an improvement, travesty, minor adjustment, or what? anyone? i'm a little psyched to be able to finally buy it, but a little daunted by the prospect of hearing their tracks sans that lovely Casio guitar sound.

al, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No samples from original artists ! Now thats worth listening to. Being a Dj for 14 years I think ive heard it all ! Artists or Producers sampling everything from M.O.P. sampling Foreigner's Cold As Ice, to Mary J. Blige sampling Elton Johns & Billy Joel's Benny & the Jets. So far The Neptunes are on the right path. Keep up the good work !

Show Style Productions San Francisco CA.

DJ BRAN, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The new album is well worth the time. I believe the trax are identical in order. Nothing new, but since the instruments are in there, the songs get a new richness that you can't really imagine without hearing it first hand. At first spin, Lapdance seems to be identical, but the more you get into it, it feels like you're in the studio with them... tight.

Andy Man, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a part in N'Sync's "Girlfriend" that sounds almost directly lifted from NERD's own "Stay Together". Nonetheless, the song's quite appealing, if a glaring example (along with what I've heard of "Wanderland") that it couldn't hurt if the Neps started coming up with a few new tricks. Like this real instrument stuff, perhaps.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Neptunes are hot, yes! But why haven't I heard anyone mention Timbaland!!!! If the Neptunes are classic, then timbaland must be double, even triple classic. Anyway, I just wanted to remind everyone that although the Neptunes might be good, they're still a step behind Timbaland. Peace!!!!

, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I believe I read the "Rump Shaker" bit on www.n-e-r-d.com, though I can't find it on there now.. looks like they removed a lot from the bio page. I do remember checking the page multiple times to make sure I was reading it correctly.

Bobby D. Gray, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I've given the new version a cursory audition, but the songs are virtually identical so despite the live instrumentation ya really have to listen to hear anything different if you see what I mean. It's a total joke they had to remake it in the first place but i was hoping that they might take the opportunity to really do something crazy on other ppl's turf so to speak and silence the "only one sound" naysayers, however wrong they might be. Alas, on first impressions no, same songs.

For me the appeal of the neptunes isn't so much a Timba style futureshock but that awkwardness and lack of polish... i guess it's their NERDiness: like Roots Manuva, tiptoeing the fine line of being afraid and being happy to be a dork. Repeating that sound is all a part of that, never feeling the need to be the best. But live instruments just gave them a soul draining MOR professional everydayness, and worse the pretension of SOUL...* The songs are still i dunno, catchy, but they've lost all in them that charmed me.

I read somewhere they said "neptunes is what we do, NERD is who we are". so far the NERD remake is neither, just some exec's idea of a "black rock" fad. Does it have to sound like rock to be rock? or for that matter hiphop? Look at Can Ox...

Bob Zemko, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I disagree completely. I found the new version to be different in as much as it gives a live feel to all the songs, and plays up the rock side a lot more. Sure the tunes are all the same, and for the most part so are the arrangements (though there are some nice new instrumental touches to be found), but its a different vibe altogether. If anything, a more raw one. Some of the songs sound better on the new version (generally the more mellow ones), some of them don't. Now I want a mastermix containing the best of both worlds heh heh

Also, they were excellent on Letterman the other night, completely kicked ass. Classic all the way baby.

Ben Williams, Saturday, 23 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I think that the neptunes are one of the greatest producers today. Their unique style of beats are very rare in the hip hop industry. I listen to them everyday and can´t wait to get a new song that is produced by them. It´s cool how they combine hip hop and rock, but it does not sound like the main crossover thing. NEPTUNES forever, whereever, whenever. Peace

Cueneyt Guerkan, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

hi! am dj skeez i from paris i made a cd spécial the neptunes if you want to know more abou it step to comingsound-inc.com if you have some joints from them hook me up!!!!!! 1 - Intro - Dj Skeez - 2 - Thugmania - Mussulini 'N' Maze feat. CNN 3 - I don't know - Usher feat. P. Diddy 4 - What it is - Busta Rhymes feat. Kelis 5 - If you think I'm jiggy - The lox 6 - Wait a minute - Ray J feat. Lil' Kim 7 - I'm serious - TI feat. Beenie Man 8 - Superthug - Noreaga 9 - Southern Hospitality - Ludacris 10 - Knock yourself out - Jadakiss 11 - Cross the border - Philly's most wanted 12 - Caught out there - Kelis 13 - Been so long - Mystikal 14 - Just wanna love you - Jay Z 15 - What's that sound - Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz 16 - Please don't mind - Philly's most wanted 17 - There she goes - Babyface 18 - Best you can - Tha liks 19 - Grimey - Noreaga

kalvin stark, Thursday, 28 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the neptunes. I've been listening to them since the first track i heard from them, jiggy remix(the lox) they keep you listeing. Stop hatin' them for making a cupla dollars. "Holla back young'ns",whoop, whoop.

jon combs, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Basically, Neptunes produced tunes strike the same chord in folks that Teddy Riley, Marcus Miller and George Duke do! All of these people have a healthy dose of "the blues" coursing through their veins, which they use to re-invigorate the ailing music industry ;-)

If you made a CD with tunes like "No-diggity" (which is really just a modern "down south, front-porch hoedown", sans the washboard, of course), "U Don't Have To Call", "I Gotcha Money", etc., you'd see that they all have very sparse instrumentation, but you can "feel" them immediately, if you know what I mean. Kind of like the same way you can "feel" a gospel chorus :-) But if you want to "feel" the "In Search Of.." joint, you're going to have to dig out your (or your parent's) old Grand Funk Railroad albums and listen to "Funk 49", or Todd Rundgren's "Time Heals the Wounds" on the Healer album, or even Steely Dan's Aja. Why? Because, as musicians (as opposed to producers) this is what inspired (or inspires) these guys. If "In Search Of .." ends up being a commercial and critical flop, it's because people cannot fathom how someone that wrote the groove for "Shake 'Yo Ass" could possibly be inspired by a tune like "Babylon Sista" (by Steely Dan)!

However, I do agree that it is time to "retire the jersey" for the "trademark" kick drum pattern ;-)

woo10, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
The Neptunes also first caught my ear with SuperThug too (check my Noreaga review on the411online.com). However, now that I look back, they've been involved in tons of other projects. It's scary to think they've been around since Rumpshaker (all i wanna do is zoom-a-zoom- zoom-zoom in a boom-boom). I've been listening to the NERD cd for about 2 months now, and its the best thing I've heard in 2002. I had heard from many heads that it wasn't very good, and I scooped it at Virgin Records for only $7.99, which is half of what we normally pay for a cd in the States. Musically, the cd is like nothing I've ever heard. You can tell there are a ton of influences on the disc, most of them good. What the Neptunes lack in lyrics and vocals, they more than make up for in hooks, beats and production in general. The two were on WGCI radio here in Chicago tonight and they were saying that the album is more like a sound track for life than a typical hip-hop album. I actually even called in and asked them a few questions about the album. I asked them if that drum beat on "Tape You" was lifted from the "Miami Vice" theme song by Jan Hammer. They said that it was inspired by some Phil Collins stuff, and that its one of those beats that makes you want to air drum. I just laughed because thats exactly what I do when I hear that fast drum break.

cvere, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

" There is no other producer with as nearly as many hits made as the Neptunes. "

Give me a break - Phil Spector, Smokey Robinson, George Martin (maybe), Nile Rodgers, Arthur Baker, Prince, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, Teddy Riley, Dr. Dre, Missy & Timbaland, and, oh yeah, Quincy Jones.

J Blount, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, that's a great story! Next step -- bringing in air guitaring. Or did OutKast already cover that? ;-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
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ORCHIDX A new solo artist, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

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The Actual Mr. Jones, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
This is less of an answer and more of a response/comment to that written by wooten_michael@hotmail.com. I couldn't agree with you more when talking about NERD's obvious influences, however I feel that you missed mentioning Earth Wind & Fire, the band that I feel that NERD's sound greatly resembles, obviously with the exceptions of there more Neptunes sounding song like lapdance, rockstar & truth or Dare. Adressing the original question, wether neptunes are classic or dull, who cares, they produce beats that people can dance to when it comes to the neptunes they are not out to be groundbreaking, they are out to make fun beats that people can enjoy. In My opinion they should keep doing what they are doing, any one who can get me to ignore ms. Spears annoying voice and mindless lyrics, and get me to dance and to one of her songs is ok by me.

Nick Desjardins, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yo for ALL my Nep-FAN-tunes,Can anybody send me a list with ALL the beats the Neps produced?I know they did Mase's 'Looking at me 'so they are around for a cup of years..

Shami Zafar, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Neptunes didn't produce "Rump Shaker." Teddy produced it. Pharrell wrote Teddy's verse on it. That's how they got started

Glen Perkins, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Neptunes are HOT! Whoever had something negative to say is just upset because they can't dance to the beats or they were nerds in school and have not did a 360 like Pharell and Lee Harvey. If the Neptunes weren't producing for 1/2 of the music industry what would we be listening and dancing too? They have been around a long time and deserve all good things that come there way! As far as all the critics who say they were inspired by "this show" or "another artists song", all music is inspired by something or someone and if they had any sense of knowledge they would know that! Neptunes are literally "The Shit................................!"

WestCoastShorty, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Neptunes are brilliant, from there hip/hop music such as Fabulous - Holla Back (WOO WOO) to bein' able to change their style to work with such vocalists like babyface in his tunes 'there she goes' and the supreme 'stressed out'. There music is refreshing to the scene as they don't fear to experiment with new sounds.

G, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I know I already answered this, but between that post and this one, I had a period where I would have said no, not classic. Not a dud, but not classic.

Now, I say:

Classic.. I've always liked them, but I was beginning to think they were getting a little stale. The new Nelly, Nore, and Clipse singles prove me wrong. They change it up just enough to keep me hooked all the time.

Bobby D. Gray, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Whats up evrybody. Big neptunes fan here. They just keep that hot shit comin! Was wonderin if anyone had a list of all neptunes beats? If so send them to me.

Mr. T, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

the neptunes did produce Rump Shaker...but being young, naive teens the guys didn't know about the business side of music and Teddy took credit for the song...they probably won't admit to that but its a fact

j rob, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one more thing...in rump shaker there is a saxophone sample...well guess who played sax in school...not teddy riley

j rob, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"I only understood why I so dislike this annoyingly catchy record when I realized the name isn't an acronym. They call themselves N.E.R.D. because nerds is what they are—nerds at their worst. Sure they're clever, but they're also as shallow as Britney Spears, who I swear they're dumb enough to want to fuck, and all they know about the world is that they deserve to run it because they're clever. Ben Folds is Richard Rorty by comparison, and though I prefer their beats to Dre's beats, once again said beats fail to render the accompanying fantasies (and realities) of sexual domination palatable (or clever) (and I'm not so sure about sexual). The final blow is this American re-recording, which substitutes live instruments for the infernal machines of the U.K. version even though the studio is the only thing they've understood deeply in their short little lives. B MINUS - Robt. Xgau

It IS an acronym. Also it is a great record. Rob, you nut.

Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

A friend of mine came up wqith a list. I don't know if he made it himself but it's a list of songs produced by the neptunes. I hope you guys like it.

504 Boyz feat. Terrar -> "D'Game" feat. Silkk Da Shocker -> "Da Game (Remix)

112 feat. Ludacris -> "Peaches And Cream (Remix)"

All Saints feat. Chad Hugo -> "Black Coffee (Remix)"

Backstreet Boys feat. Clipse -> "The Call (Remix)"

Babyface -> "Intro" -> "Loud Wit It" -> "Don't Touch Me" -> "U Make Me" -> "There She Goes (pt.1&2)" -> "Love U Always" -> "Stress Out" -> "It Will Work Out"

Beenie Man -> "Art & Life" feat. Mya -> "Girls Dem Sugar" feat. Kelis -> "Jamaica Way" * -> "Ola"

Eric Benet feat. Terrar -> "Love Don't Love (Remix)"

Ben Harper -> "Steal My Kisses (Remix)"

Blackstreet feat. Tammy Lucas -> "Tonight's The Night"

Mary J. Blidge -> "Steal Away"

Black Thought - ?

Brand Nubian -> "Don't Let it Go To Your Head (Remix)"

Brandy -> "Save The Babies"

Busta Rhymes feat. Kelis -> "What It Is" * feat. Kelis & The Flipmode Squad -> "What It Is (Part 2)" -> "As I Come Back"

Clipse -> "The Funeral" -> "Lord Willin'" -> "Got Caught Dealin'" -> "Power" -> "We Get Money" -> "Guns N Roses" -> "Street Tax"

Cole -> "I Can Do Too (Remix)"

Cuban Link feat. Tony Sunshine -> "Still Telling Lies"

Daft Punk -> "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger (Remix)"

Perry Farrell (Jane's Addiction) -> "Glory"

Fabolous -> "Young'N"

Foxy Brown feat. Kelis -> "Candy" -> "Gangsta Boogie"

Guru feat. Kelis -> "Supa Love" feat. Macy Gray -> "All I Said"

Half A Mil -> "Thug Ones"

Harlem World -> "One Big Fiesta" -> "Not The Kids"

Ice Cube -> "In The Midnight Hour"

Janet Jackson -> "Who"

Jadakiss feat. Pharrell Williams -> "Knock Yourself Out" *

Jay-Z feat. Pharrell Williams -> "I Just Wanna Love U (Give It To Me)" * -> "Tha Real" -> "Jigga Man Ya Heard"

Kelis -> "Kaleidoscope LP" -> "Wandaland LP"

Kenna -> "New Sacred Cow"

Kid Rock -> "Cowboy (Remix)"

Krayzie Bone feat. Kelis -> "I Don't Know What"

Latrelle -> "Dirty Girl"

Lil' Kim feat. Snoop Dogg -> "How Many Licks (Remix)"

LL Cool J -> "The Ripper Strikes Back" -> "Planet Neptune"

Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz -> "What's That Sound"

Ludacris -> "Southern Hospitality" * feat. LL Cool J & Keith Murray -> "Fatty Girl"

Angie Martinez feat. Q-Tip -> "Dem Thangz"

Mase feat. Puff Daddy -> "Looking At Me" feat. Musalini -> "Thugmania"

Maxi Priest feat. Beenie Man -> "Mary's Got A Baby (Remix)"

Brian McKnight -> "I Wish It Would Rain Down"

Mc Lyte feat. Space Nine -> "Closer" -> "I Can't Make A Mistake" feat. Gina Thompson -> "It's All Yours"

Mike E -> 5 tracks ??

Musaliny-N-Maze -> "Thug Mania"

Mystikal -> "Shake Ya Ass" feat. Nivea -> "Danger (Been So Long)" -> "Jump" feat. Latrelle -> "Family"

N-E-R-D -> "In Search Of..." (Album)

Nivea -> "You're Not Around"

No Doubt -> "Give A Little Love" -> "Hella Good" -> "In My Head"

Noreaga feat. Tammy Lucas -> "Superthug" feat. Kelis -> "Cocaine Business (Hysteria)" -> "Oh No" -> "Oh No (Remix)" feat. Pharrell Williams -> "Grimey" feat. Mussolini, Kool G Rap -> "Thug Ones"

N*Sync -> "Girlfriend"

Ol' Dirty Bastard feat. Kelis -> "Got Your Money" feat. Chris Rock -> "Recognize" -> "Cold Blooded"

P. Diddy -> "D-I-D-D-Y"

Philly's Most Wanted -> "Radikal" -> "Suckas" -> "Pretty Tony" -> "Please Don't Mind" -> "Philly Celebrities" -> "Ladies Choice" -> "The Question" -> "Cross The Boarder" feat. Pharrell Williams -> "Dream Car (Do You Wanna Ride)" -> "Suckas Pt. 2 (For Da Gangsta's)" * feat. The Clipse -> "Street Tax" * feat. Terrar & Fabolous -> "Cross The Boarder (J.B.M. Remix)" * feat. Ray J -> "Blaze It Out" -> "Thriller 2000"

Prince feat. Q-Tip -> "The Greatest Romance... (Remix)"

Ray J feat. Lil' Kim -> "Wait A Minute" * feat. Pharrell Williams -> "Formal Invite" * feat. Shorty Mack -> "Out Tha Ghetto" *

Redman ft. ODB -> "Let's Get Dirty (Remix)"

Royce Da 5'9" feat. Eminem -> "The One" * -> "You Can't Touch Me"

Sade -> "By Your Side (Remix)"

Shea Segar -> "Clutch (Remix)" feat. Pharrell Williams -> "Blind Situation"

Shyne -> "Nigga's Gon Die"

Britney Spears -> "I'm A Slave 4 U"

Angie Stone feat. Terrar -> "Everyday (Remix)"

SWV -> "Use Your Heart" -> "When This Feeling"

Tarel Hicks -> "How Can I Get Over You"

Tha Liks feat. Pharrell Williams -> "Best U Can" *

The Lox -> "You Think I'm Jiggy (Remix)"

TIP feat. Beenie Man -> "I'm Serious" *

Total -> "When Boy Meets Girl"

Usher feat. P. Diddy -> "I Don't Know" -> "U Don't Have To Call"

Hikaru Utada feat. Foxy Brown -> "Blow My Whistle" *

OTHER APPEARENCES: _ SWV -> "Right Here (Human Nature Remix)" = back up voices by Pharrell _ Jay-Z -> "The City Is Mine" = Chad plays sax

Mic, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Neptunes are straight gay. All the beats sound the same. The best producers out there are: 1. Dr.Dre 2. Timbaland and 3. Swizz Beats

Carlo Sawabe, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

you're missing

luv u better
girls dem sugar <-- essential
frontin
signs

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:13 (nine years ago) link

^those j0rd songs are all R&B-tinged, and while all great songs, I wouldn't classify any of them as "bangers" in the context of this rap-heavy mix

"Grindin'" and "Got Your Money" are dope imo, but I don't like em as much as these other 19...

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:17 (nine years ago) link

Plus "When The Last Time" > "Grindin'" any day

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:18 (nine years ago) link

"Tit 4 Tat" and "Lookin' At Me" are the weakest songs on this list imo. Should prolly replace one with "Grindin'," but they're both pet faves o mine

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:22 (nine years ago) link

"cross the border".

Tim F, Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:24 (nine years ago) link

I'm very partial to "pass the courvoisier part 2" but that'd be too much busta.

Tim F, Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:26 (nine years ago) link

yeah, me too!

That one just missed the cut alongside Fam-Lay's "Rock & Roll"

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:28 (nine years ago) link

also, the "cross the border" chorus is so bad

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:28 (nine years ago) link

no way cross the border is awesome

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:29 (nine years ago) link

i think when girls call dudes papa its weird as fuck tbh

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:30 (nine years ago) link

"popular thug" is enough of a banger to be on here and also is lifechanging.

Tim F, Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:31 (nine years ago) link

^those j0rd songs are all R&B-tinged, and while all great songs, I wouldn't classify any of them as "bangers" in the context of this rap-heavy mix

i feel you, i still think they're some of his best songs tho

also i'll throw in a vote for "i'm serious" as an underrated neptunes banger

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:34 (nine years ago) link

i swear i feel like this is missing something (even within the context of "bangers instead of r&b") but i can't for the life of me remember what it is.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:35 (nine years ago) link

i've also been partial to "diddy" & "danger" over "shake ya ass"

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:37 (nine years ago) link

"i'm serious" just missed the cut too! Definitely room for a Volume 2!

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:39 (nine years ago) link

I think what pains me the most is to leave off my beloved "Lapdance" since it doesn't really flow with the vibe of the others

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:40 (nine years ago) link

haha i was just about to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gul0ZDtnGzI

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:42 (nine years ago) link

"like a boss"

also you already have a lot of busta but "what it is" is my favorite besides "light your ass on fire"

my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:43 (nine years ago) link

also "flap ya wings" by nelly is one of their dopest beats imo

my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:43 (nine years ago) link

this is a hella obscure one but i always loved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhhNBKXChVM

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:44 (nine years ago) link

"Like A Boss" was 2005 and I think "Drop It's Like It's Hot" is universally known as the end of the Neptunes era. Had I extended it, there would have been room for "Like A Boss" and "Mr. Me Too" I guess?

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:45 (nine years ago) link

I think "Drop It's Like It's Hot" is universally known as the end of the Neptunes era

i want to argue this but i also think maybe i just don't want seven years to have passed

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:47 (nine years ago) link

drop it like its hot seemed like new era neps to me & i dont really associate it w/ the early run

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:47 (nine years ago) link

the approach was more delicate at that pt

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:47 (nine years ago) link

challops but this beat is better than "drop it like it's hot" imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8uxIHQhVqQ

... okay maybe not better, but it's very dope

my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:48 (nine years ago) link

fuck i should really include "Flap Your Wings"

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:48 (nine years ago) link

i agree p much w/ deej

i would take drop it like it's hot out

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:48 (nine years ago) link

also the "drop it like it's hot remix" >>>>> o.g.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:49 (nine years ago) link

the hissing drone in "Drop It Like It's Hot" is v much in tune with the whine aesthetic

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:51 (nine years ago) link

and "like a boss" was released in '04 according to google:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31AV58aFs4L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

album was '05

my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:52 (nine years ago) link

i think these problems can only be solved with a Vol. 2. Thanks for ruining my weekend, y'all...

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:53 (nine years ago) link

I think a 05-present Neps comp would be a lot more interesting... obviously their output is a lot spottier, but I think the high points might actually be better than their peak era.

my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:55 (nine years ago) link

it would be like Mr. Me Too and that Teriyaki Boys song and then me groaning in agony for 62 minutes

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:57 (nine years ago) link

I think a 05-present Neps comp would be a lot more inte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzh9RzYyWpg

Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:59 (nine years ago) link

lol

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 06:00 (nine years ago) link

for real tho any neptunes mixtape w/o "girls dem sugar" can suck my dick

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 06:00 (nine years ago) link

"lol zing" but Pharrell didn't even produce that

my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 06:03 (nine years ago) link

Anything I'm totally missing, goons?

Toni Braxton - Hit the Freeway

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Sunday, 21 August 2011 06:35 (nine years ago) link

!!!!

We all for got about "Got Yr Money"

Tim F, Sunday, 21 August 2011 07:00 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8KrpLzvu1s

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:13 (nine years ago) link

i'd pick "danger (been so long)" over both "shake ya ass" and "bouncin back" (not that those aren't classics too)

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:32 (nine years ago) link

t.i. ft. beenie man - i'm serious

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:33 (nine years ago) link

girls dem sugar is totes essential

shake ya ass is vol 2 or 3, fourth quarter material

Circlesquare du Soleil (sic), Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:15 (nine years ago) link

Plus "When The Last Time" > "Grindin'" any day

Equally essential imo... These are both in their top 10 .. along with La-La-La

billstevejim, Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:19 (nine years ago) link

also wtf smh at the 2 mentions of "Flap Your Wings" .. the thread I started on that song when it was new is pretty much all people saying how boring it is

billstevejim, Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:22 (nine years ago) link

If this matters to anyone, I put these on a "best of the 2000's" spotify playlist a few days ago..
Grindin
Things Are Getting Better
La-La-La
Nothin' Else
When The Last Time
Run To The Sun
Like I Love You
Bouncin' Back
Stay Together

and these were on a separate "2000's guilty pleasures" playlist...
Girlfriend
Flap Your Wings
Hollaback Girl
I'm A Slave 4 U

And "Can't Stop Won't Stop" isn't on spotify.

billstevejim, Sunday, 21 August 2011 14:47 (nine years ago) link

shake ya ass > bumpin me against the wall > danger imo

dizzy gillespie plays a sax/ me, myself, i love to (max) (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 August 2011 18:36 (nine years ago) link

underrated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNZo1pzr89A

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:02 (nine years ago) link

'Im a slave 4 u' is so sick

prego, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:56 (nine years ago) link


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