The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

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Can anyone confirm this? Can we believe it?

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(vocalist Debbie Googe is apparently not present

I wouldn't take the word of anyone who can't actually get their facts right - Goodge was BASSIST, not vocalist.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

this has already been talked abt in a couple of other threads.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i don't believe it yet. it seems all a bit unsubstantiated

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

fuck it anyway! indie is dead so there wouldn't be much point ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i'm irritable enough right now to take that extremely personally

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, and Free Jazz is alive?

Improvise yer ass outta here, funhater!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Do they? I wish I was in management. I'd be better paid. Sigh.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ok then. they also do the marriage/kids thing and they forget indie ever existed ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'd like to get married. I'd like to have kids. I can very much imagine HSA trying to get our babies to dance around to Throbbing Gristle the way that my dad used to scare me with Yes.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

throbbing gristle is industrial music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I thought it was experimentalist, oh well.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Just another word for "shit".

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

also, remember that when you get married and begin to breed, you're required by law to bring a cellphone into the office and have dramatic conversations everyday with your husband, or loudly admonish your crotchspawnlings, to the obvious delight of your coworkers, every single day for the next 20 years.

or maybe that's something that's just required in the American Midwest...

Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

''Just another word for "shit".''

oi!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I wasn't aware that Glider was intended as a full length LP. The idea that there may be another half dozen "Soon"-like ditties in the can is very much welcome. Simon Reynolds' old take on the matter was that he wished they'd have stuck with this direction before the recording of Loveless. I wonder whether any of their mythical drum'n'bass period will ever show up? Wasn't Debbie in a band called Snowplough or something? Colm was involved with Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions - Belinda's activities have been unreported to date.

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

''Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!''

I deal in facts. you deal in myths.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Going back to the ULU show in 1990, Colm's drumming was fucking breathtaking. And in such heat. The walls were literally melting. I think that Sonic Boom supported in solo guise - the usual indie liggers of the day were propping up the bar (hello Miki!).

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Snowpony, I think. 'Snowplough' is a million times better, though.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Shields has been christened "Bagpuss" by the Primal Scream clan. Anyone know the origin of this? A friend of mine always said that MBV gave off the appearance of being unwashed and slightly smelly.

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Julio I gotta say:

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

seems roughly equal to "I will spin it positively for the subculture I like, and negatively for the one I don't" - if indie is "dead," then free jazz has decomposed. I happen to like both so whateveh, but I just wanted to say.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like both too (well, not everything, its a case by case basis). I was just playing around.

(but actually, indie is not that much of a 'subculture' anymore whereas 60s jazz and free improv (there is a distinction here btw), despite being older, has more of that, but that doesn't matter)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

colm still plays with hope sandoval and if i'm not completely mistaken he and she are married and both live in berkeley.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they live near berkeley in kensington.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I thought Hope Sandoval was hanging with William Reid, or is that mouldy old corn?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Damn, this thread is turning into paparazzi press!

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 15:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Charlie, yer gossip is about ten years out of date!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

saw the Lost in Translation trailer!

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
did I just completely miss this???

http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1431220.html

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Apparently you're not alone. But at least it's there!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

also, finally a new fansite:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

With all the MBV dropping on ILM and the gaze thing and the fact that Kevin did several songs on Lost In Translation I would hope so. I hope so.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Kevin Shields and Ned Raggett are slowly merging into one being:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/images/filter03.jpg

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Curt1s, Curt1s - be careful what you wish for!

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That joke has been made several times now on many threads! First by me I think. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He loves cheese.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A'right then, Ned. You've recorded you 'Ecstasy & Wine' now, obviously. When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Kevin Shields is my Friendster.

Kevin Shields
Member Since May 2003
Last Login 01/06/2004 

Gender:
Male

Interested in
Meeting People for:
Friends, Activity Partners

Status:
Single

Age:
40

Occupation:
Recording artist & dyslexia spokesman

Location:
United Kingdom

Hometown:
Long Island, NY and Dublin, Ireland

Interests:
Rearranging my recording studio, bankrupting record labels, the hypnagogic state, gourmet meals, martial arts, breeding chinchillas, smoking lots of dope, watching lots of TV, easy projects, writing fresh and simple material, and just keeping it simple!

Favorite Music:
Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Beatles, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth, Ramones

Favorite TV Shows:
Just about anything, really.

About Me:
You may have heard of my band, My Bloody Valentine. Many critics have written about us in very flowery terms. I don't think I understood what they were saying in those reviews half the time. That guy from Phish loves me guitar sounds though. Do me a favor and buy my Lost in Translation soundtrack. Island Records isn't helping me out much these days. Also kids, don't forget to buy our box set that's coming out in early '04.

Who I Want to Meet:
Great recording effects designers, more film directors, those with good weed, record labels who understand my fondness for expensive food and all of the time I like to spend in and out of the studio. Just remember... I NO LONGER DO REMIXES!

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sure sounds like him!

When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

I must achieve my breakthrough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

that profile is CLASSIC.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hands up who owns his remix of Hurricane £1? < /old Select jokes>

Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Shields lives in Long Island now? Where?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the duties + demands placed on a dyslexia spokesman are immense¡
do you people really think he has time for anything else¿
surely he has found his true calling.

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 16:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Can someone post the link to 'What Kevin Shields is doing now'?

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 22:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
site says to expect this in late '05 or early '06...

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/news/boxset.html

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

hmmm don't mean to be a cynical carl but i don't believe any of that page for a damn second.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

last i'd heard the retrospective was a double CD, not a million disc double box set

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

well, until then we'll have this "City Girl" video:

http://metroencoding.net/emperornorton/ref/kevinshields_city-girl_320x180_large-REF.mov

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Let's settle this once and for all.

Many have tried to sound like MBV and without exception every single one has failed. But who's come closest? Maybe for just one song. Maybe for just one bit of a song.

imago, Sunday, 11 February 2018 23:45 (one week ago) Permalink

I'll start the bidding with Cornelius - New Music Machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QzZ_HmjPvA

imago, Sunday, 11 February 2018 23:52 (one week ago) Permalink

fucking do my head in this band. i think theyre the best guitar band of their time, untouchable, so powerful, but kevin shields needs to get a haircut and move on. sitting about moping and remastering age old albums, recycling old material and passing it off as a new record... just write something new already.

meaulnes, Monday, 12 February 2018 00:29 (one week ago) Permalink

m b v was new though, kind of - and it was great

now everyone answer my questionnnn

imago, Monday, 12 February 2018 00:40 (one week ago) Permalink

There's a fantastic guitar band from Canada called No Joy. They can approximate the sound when they want to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AivFulF-NPk

kornrulez6969, Monday, 12 February 2018 00:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Guitar - House Full Of Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxsXEM73Xio

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 12 February 2018 01:26 (one week ago) Permalink

the first song on crush by astrobrite?

brimstead, Monday, 12 February 2018 01:49 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWi3ZWIEZEI

wmlynch, Monday, 12 February 2018 01:54 (one week ago) Permalink

i recorded this album by my mates band and they really had glider guitar down.
https://sorryescalator.bandcamp.com/track/remit-like-i-do

meaulnes, Monday, 12 February 2018 02:07 (one week ago) Permalink

you have to crank this at mbv levels, but give this a shot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrzCQ0rHb4s

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 02:33 (one week ago) Permalink

ooh, both Fleeting Joys and meaulnes' mate's band get pretty close! I think the latter is marginally winning this so far

imago, Monday, 12 February 2018 09:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Swirlies - Pancake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls3imCyjuyE

Colonel Poo, Monday, 12 February 2018 09:56 (one week ago) Permalink

oh of cooooourse! and the best thing about swirlies was that they were also completely their own thing, while also being able to fairly closely replicate the aural magic of shields

imago, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:05 (one week ago) Permalink

Our Destiny, from the Purple Rain reissue has some woozy proto MBV guitars.

Cow_Art, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:16 (one week ago) Permalink

I Was A Lover by TV on The Radio.

Almost sounds like MBV samples are thrown in there.

Cow_Art, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:18 (one week ago) Permalink

cosign swirlies, "jeremy parker" for me to be more precise :)

nxd, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:28 (one week ago) Permalink

The second album is where they really spread their own wings

imago, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Belong - Same Places (slow version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAXxreB9AhI

neilasimpson, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:35 (one week ago) Permalink

Not really a total sound-a-like, but definitely heavily inspired by Soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dhVcLac45Y

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 12 February 2018 11:52 (one week ago) Permalink

Fleeting Joys, meaulnes' mate...

Lilys - In the Presence of Nothing (which I seem to still have tagged as In the Presence of MBV)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7mUBb394JE

First couple Ringo Deathstarr albums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3xATi5s9-A

Acanthonus armatus (Sanpaku), Monday, 12 February 2018 17:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Velocity Girl - My Forgotten Favorite

sleeve, Monday, 12 February 2018 17:24 (one week ago) Permalink

Dälek - Ever Somber comes pretty close except for the drums obv.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Z9i7fxIgk

JoeStork, Monday, 12 February 2018 17:40 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm also voting Cornelius: Salon Music - Galaxie Express (69 mix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA_JaLyZFJo

Spencer Chow, Monday, 12 February 2018 17:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Ladytron - "Sugar" was very MBV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95lvxzyptj8

Spencer Chow, Monday, 12 February 2018 17:46 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II9aWvcP66w

kolakube (Ross), Monday, 12 February 2018 17:50 (one week ago) Permalink

I was going to suggest this one by Ulirka Spacek (where the guitar kicks in at 1:27): https://youtu.be/X_1VM36PaaA
...but having listened to the tracks linked to above, some of those are *much* more similar to MBV. So I'll just link to it anyway because I like it.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 12 February 2018 17:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Lilys - In The Presence of Nothing for sure. To me it is unfairly written off for sounding so similar because there is some excellent craftsmanship that went into that record.

But if the question is who blatantly copied them the most precisely that Ringo Deathstarr track in particular certainly wins the contest.

Swirlies had a very unique and American sound within the spectrum of artists-that-employed-bendy-guitar-and-krautrock-beats post MBV. Lots of slacker indie and lo-fi and punk added to the mix with them. Then They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days In The Glittering World Of The Salons went much further away and it remains one of the most unique and timeless records of the time/scene imo.

Evan, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:27 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTolIDDtfzk

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 February 2018 19:31 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMDWuj_fsU0

Lock thread.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Re-open thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkCtkT4HRGQ

Lock thread again.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:37 (one week ago) Permalink

xpost
come on LBI, that's totally different than "only shallow". for example, there are 16 snare hits at the beginning instead of 8

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Holy shit, I had no idea that a) the guy from Secret Machines was in School of Seven Bells or that b) he died of cancer in 2013. That's pretty sad.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:39 (one week ago) Permalink

there are 16 snare hits at the beginning instead of 8

i mean instead of 4!

dammit

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:39 (one week ago) Permalink

True, true KM :)

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:43 (one week ago) Permalink

I was going to post something from Bailter Space (who were of course more or less contemporaneous):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9mlWfgxHfg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh god I love that song so much

Evan, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Met too. Such an underrated band.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:49 (one week ago) Permalink

Xp. That Ulrika Spacek track is great and sounds like MBV without the occasionally unnerving hoover sound. I really like the powerful, doomy guitar.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 12 February 2018 19:50 (one week ago) Permalink

i'm so out of the loop. has anyone received the represses of isn't anything or loveless? do they sound any different or is kevin shields, shockingly, an audio madman who obsesses over tiny details that the rest of us can't hear? also, did anyone get the bonus alternative secret free version of isn't anything that came with the pre-orders?

pic.twitter.com/luBZ2GPaol

— TheOfficialMBV (@TheOfficialMBV) February 19, 2018

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:39 (five days ago) Permalink

one person i know says it's the definitive version

lowercase (eric), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:45 (five days ago) Permalink

it's been a month since my order was apparently shipped. how mangled do you suppose it's going to be when it finally shows up?

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:26 (five days ago) Permalink

supposedly they sound so good because of how warped each record is

lowercase (eric), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:31 (five days ago) Permalink

how mangled do you suppose it's going to be when it finally shows up?

i have to admit i'm still a bit bummed about the state of my m b v record, which arrived with bad damage to the spine, a big dent on the front cover, and multiple skipping scratches

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:49 (five days ago) Permalink

yeah same thing happened with my m b v so i'm not sure why i trusted them again this time

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:55 (five days ago) Permalink

Every pressing of Loveless I've ever found sounds all wobbly and off-center, I hope they finally have it fixed now

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 00:17 (four days ago) Permalink

I think that's just the tremolo bar guitar.

Screaming into the void has never been easier (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 00:56 (four days ago) Permalink

i think "lsd and the search for god" are the most blatant mbv clone band i've ever heard

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 01:01 (four days ago) Permalink

Got the new versions a few days ago (along with bonus test pressing!). Haven't listened to Isn't Anything Yet, but Loveless is perfect.

I expected it to sound dramatically different because of everything that was said about the analog mastering process, but it's Loveless as it always was. You have to crank it up loud as fuck and bathe in perfection.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 02:57 (four days ago) Permalink

they arrived today safe and sound, completely unmangled!

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:32 (three days ago) Permalink


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