The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

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Can anyone confirm this? Can we believe it?

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

(vocalist Debbie Googe is apparently not present

I wouldn't take the word of anyone who can't actually get their facts right - Goodge was BASSIST, not vocalist.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:23 (sixteen years ago) link

this has already been talked abt in a couple of other threads.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't believe it yet. it seems all a bit unsubstantiated

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck it anyway! indie is dead so there wouldn't be much point ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm irritable enough right now to take that extremely personally

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and Free Jazz is alive?

Improvise yer ass outta here, funhater!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:04 (sixteen years ago) link

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Do they? I wish I was in management. I'd be better paid. Sigh.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

ok then. they also do the marriage/kids thing and they forget indie ever existed ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd like to get married. I'd like to have kids. I can very much imagine HSA trying to get our babies to dance around to Throbbing Gristle the way that my dad used to scare me with Yes.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

throbbing gristle is industrial music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought it was experimentalist, oh well.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Just another word for "shit".

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (sixteen years ago) link

also, remember that when you get married and begin to breed, you're required by law to bring a cellphone into the office and have dramatic conversations everyday with your husband, or loudly admonish your crotchspawnlings, to the obvious delight of your coworkers, every single day for the next 20 years.

or maybe that's something that's just required in the American Midwest...

Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (sixteen years ago) link

''Just another word for "shit".''

oi!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I wasn't aware that Glider was intended as a full length LP. The idea that there may be another half dozen "Soon"-like ditties in the can is very much welcome. Simon Reynolds' old take on the matter was that he wished they'd have stuck with this direction before the recording of Loveless. I wonder whether any of their mythical drum'n'bass period will ever show up? Wasn't Debbie in a band called Snowplough or something? Colm was involved with Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions - Belinda's activities have been unreported to date.

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link

''Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!''

I deal in facts. you deal in myths.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Going back to the ULU show in 1990, Colm's drumming was fucking breathtaking. And in such heat. The walls were literally melting. I think that Sonic Boom supported in solo guise - the usual indie liggers of the day were propping up the bar (hello Miki!).

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Snowpony, I think. 'Snowplough' is a million times better, though.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Shields has been christened "Bagpuss" by the Primal Scream clan. Anyone know the origin of this? A friend of mine always said that MBV gave off the appearance of being unwashed and slightly smelly.

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Julio I gotta say:

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

seems roughly equal to "I will spin it positively for the subculture I like, and negatively for the one I don't" - if indie is "dead," then free jazz has decomposed. I happen to like both so whateveh, but I just wanted to say.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I like both too (well, not everything, its a case by case basis). I was just playing around.

(but actually, indie is not that much of a 'subculture' anymore whereas 60s jazz and free improv (there is a distinction here btw), despite being older, has more of that, but that doesn't matter)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

colm still plays with hope sandoval and if i'm not completely mistaken he and she are married and both live in berkeley.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link

they live near berkeley in kensington.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought Hope Sandoval was hanging with William Reid, or is that mouldy old corn?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn, this thread is turning into paparazzi press!

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Charlie, yer gossip is about ten years out of date!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:33 (sixteen years ago) link

saw the Lost in Translation trailer!

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:41 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...
did I just completely miss this???

http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1431220.html

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently you're not alone. But at least it's there!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

also, finally a new fansite:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

With all the MBV dropping on ILM and the gaze thing and the fact that Kevin did several songs on Lost In Translation I would hope so. I hope so.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Kevin Shields and Ned Raggett are slowly merging into one being:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/images/filter03.jpg

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Curt1s, Curt1s - be careful what you wish for!

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

That joke has been made several times now on many threads! First by me I think. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

He loves cheese.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

A'right then, Ned. You've recorded you 'Ecstasy & Wine' now, obviously. When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Kevin Shields is my Friendster.

Kevin Shields
Member Since May 2003
Last Login 01/06/2004 

Gender:
Male

Interested in
Meeting People for:
Friends, Activity Partners

Status:
Single

Age:
40

Occupation:
Recording artist & dyslexia spokesman

Location:
United Kingdom

Hometown:
Long Island, NY and Dublin, Ireland

Interests:
Rearranging my recording studio, bankrupting record labels, the hypnagogic state, gourmet meals, martial arts, breeding chinchillas, smoking lots of dope, watching lots of TV, easy projects, writing fresh and simple material, and just keeping it simple!

Favorite Music:
Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Beatles, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth, Ramones

Favorite TV Shows:
Just about anything, really.

About Me:
You may have heard of my band, My Bloody Valentine. Many critics have written about us in very flowery terms. I don't think I understood what they were saying in those reviews half the time. That guy from Phish loves me guitar sounds though. Do me a favor and buy my Lost in Translation soundtrack. Island Records isn't helping me out much these days. Also kids, don't forget to buy our box set that's coming out in early '04.

Who I Want to Meet:
Great recording effects designers, more film directors, those with good weed, record labels who understand my fondness for expensive food and all of the time I like to spend in and out of the studio. Just remember... I NO LONGER DO REMIXES!

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Sure sounds like him!

When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

I must achieve my breakthrough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

that profile is CLASSIC.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Hands up who owns his remix of Hurricane £1? < /old Select jokes>

Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Shields lives in Long Island now? Where?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link

the duties + demands placed on a dyslexia spokesman are immense¡
do you people really think he has time for anything else¿
surely he has found his true calling.

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Can someone post the link to 'What Kevin Shields is doing now'?

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
site says to expect this in late '05 or early '06...

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/news/boxset.html

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmm don't mean to be a cynical carl but i don't believe any of that page for a damn second.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

last i'd heard the retrospective was a double CD, not a million disc double box set

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:22 (fifteen years ago) link

well, until then we'll have this "City Girl" video:

http://metroencoding.net/emperornorton/ref/kevinshields_city-girl_320x180_large-REF.mov

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link

That new song sounds a bit like the mighty Quo’s “Rockin’ All Over the World” in places. I’m quite taken with the idea of Shields as a sort of shoegazing Francis Rossi.

https://youtu.be/t-8K8Hj8bxE

Position Position, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:05 (eleven months ago) link

Ha! I wasn't thinking Quo at all - more like Hawkwind. Or maybe MBV covering Hawkwind covering Quo.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 03:43 (eleven months ago) link

We were about 10 people back from the very front and when the band kicks in at 0:30...

https://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/Dude_then.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 03:48 (eleven months ago) link

Now Kev looks like knopfler. or brian may sometimes…

Psyched as fuck to see 'em in a few weeks!

veronica moser, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 04:17 (eleven months ago) link

do they have a keybs person/guitarist on this tour? I am watching bataclan '13, and man is it amazing to watch him playing that slide-ish part that threads "come in alone." MBV has never had a lineup change to speak of, have they?

veronica moser, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:56 (eleven months ago) link

Someone tried to leave once, but everyone was just like “what? I couldn’t hear a word you said! My hearing is really bad because of our concerts!” and it all blew over pretty quickly

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:58 (eleven months ago) link

Fuck

grandpa rockin out

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:00 (eleven months ago) link

they have had an auxiliary keyboard/guitarist in the past, i think in 2013 and on this current tour

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:02 (eleven months ago) link

it does not seem that Colm is playing "soon's" pumpin kick drum part at this show. goddamn is this song is glorious.

veronica moser, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:04 (eleven months ago) link

which is to say it seems the part is generated by the keybslady here…

veronica moser, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:05 (eleven months ago) link

global i'm going tomorrow nite! very excited to see mbv for the first time

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:09 (eleven months ago) link

MBV has never had a lineup change to speak of, have they?

They had a bunch of changes in the first 4 years but that was all pre-"Ecstacy"/"Strawberry Wine", a period known for gothy sub-Cramps/Echo/Birthday Party rave-ups. Kevin didn't even sing on the first few EPs/singles.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:12 (eleven months ago) link

They had a flute player on the Loveless tour (at least in the UK part of it).

Position Position, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:50 (eleven months ago) link

They had a flute player on the Loveless tour (at least in the UK part of it).

Taking a page from the Blind Mr. Jones playbook?

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:08 (eleven months ago) link

i'm so damn excited for this show tmrw, one of the most special bands to me

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:23 (eleven months ago) link

I was at the Shrine show too - pretty sure that by the second half of the set at least they were louder than at FYF 5 years ago, which is pretty goddamn loud. Wish I'd brought good earplugs - the ones supplied by the venue muffled everything. Had to take em out now and then just to confirm what song I was hearing. Lots of millennial couples ostentatiously making out around me throughout the show. Some first date that would be.

I hadn't revisited their catalogue for a while before the show, so I forgot some songs and I wanted to confirm which ones I thought were the new ones (their place in the setlist order above seems to line up roughly with what I remember, but I wasn't counting). As far as I could tell, the first new song they played was almost entirely one chord, sort of like a sped-up "Sister Ray," with a rising, hissing sound effect like a pressure cooker on top.

It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 21:17 (eleven months ago) link

OK yeah, I was right about the first new song. The second was the one where Kevin played acoustic, right?

It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 21:18 (eleven months ago) link

Hey NYCNative, I don’t have a taker for my extra Philly ticket yet so if you want it for what I paid ($63.50) it’s yours

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 23:47 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcS-xu1GrW0

the second new song sounds good

ufo, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 06:40 (eleven months ago) link

I was at the Shrine show too - pretty sure that by the second half of the set at least they were louder than at FYF 5 years ago, which is pretty goddamn loud.

Ha! For the last 10-15 minutes of that FYF show, the PA was completely dead and what you were hearing was the on-stage sound. Great gig that was!

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 07:05 (eleven months ago) link

they have had an auxiliary keyboard/guitarist in the past, i think in 2013 and on this current tour

That's Jen Macro of Hurtling. I liked what I could hear of three-part singing she, Blinda, and Debbie did on "New You"

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 07:09 (eleven months ago) link

Been listening to a lot of this band leading up to the show tonight

and I have to say:

MBV is the best album

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 20:29 (eleven months ago) link

'who sees you' is the damn fuzziest and wooliest thing i've ever heard live

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 20:30 (eleven months ago) link

only tomorrow is stunning still

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 20:33 (eleven months ago) link

It's a really good album, strangely underrated I think.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:25 (eleven months ago) link

Stoked for seeing 'em Friday in Chicago. Hadn't listened to 2013 mbv record much since year it came out and it is hitting the spot.

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:30 (eleven months ago) link

show last night was wonderful, the visuals especially. v psychedelic

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:55 (eleven months ago) link

This show is loud. Even with good quality earplugs it's a wall of sound that you feel in your clothes/hair. Very entertaining show - all these years later, everyone is playing top notch. I saw 'em Valentine's day 92 in Chicago, and they're just as good, if not better than I remember.

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:59 (eleven months ago) link

cool picture imo

i enjoyed the show but wow, you couldn't hear the vocals at all. it's hard for me to imagine seeing them live and not hearing the records beforehand - you'd have no idea that there was this whole vocal melody thing going on

Karl Malone, Sunday, 29 July 2018 07:14 (eleven months ago) link

whoops, meant this picture

https://78.media.tumblr.com/9e2b5d4c17e5505de0ee30c5b406b10e/tumblr_ol6l16Joir1v8qexwo1_400.jpg

i like how the hair and guitar strap cut away the body equally

Karl Malone, Sunday, 29 July 2018 07:16 (eleven months ago) link

Is that a tumblr of just Bilinda lookin super foxy?

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Sunday, 29 July 2018 07:44 (eleven months ago) link

Re: tonight's performance by the band My Bloody Valentine, yes very much indeed yes. The last fifteen minutes felt like another trip through Lynch's atomic detonation. Glorious noise. I was just in awe over how good they sounded.

I thought it wasn't actually as loud as the ample warnings had suggested (really only earplugged a few brief times) but now I'm lying in silence for the first time this evening and, oh, there's the ringing I thought I'd avoided.

Things To Do For Dinner When You're Dad (Old Lunch), Sunday, 29 July 2018 07:54 (eleven months ago) link

gotta say that when I saw 'em in 08 at roseland, I encountered a lot of "gawd this is the loudest show you'll ever go to," from indie rock and dance music people in advance. afterwards it was "oh 'you made me realize" was so crushing," etc etc… it seemed that anyone saying that had never, for instance, been to a Slayer show or to an event involving any of that band's descendants. MBV didn't seem that extreme to me in light of the volume of, oh, the 20 or so prior years of metal shows I'd gone to.

also, the bataclan 2013 video is fascinating to me vis-a-vis who generates what parts, as loveless and MBV by definition do not make it clear what any individual musician is supposed to play in live situations. It seems BB mostly strums chords as ballast when KS needs to play single notes/phrases, and often she doesn't play at all. I can't see from the vid what Deb is doing.

veronica moser, Sunday, 29 July 2018 13:28 (eleven months ago) link

"vocalist" iirc

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 29 July 2018 13:36 (eleven months ago) link

I've seen Slayer at First Avenue! also Motorhead! Swans!

do I pass yr big boy noise guy test?

Motorhead was super loud in a club setting, probably as loud or a bit louder than MBV, due to old school wall of amps

MBV is really loud and I think it's ridiculous to argue otherwise

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 July 2018 14:09 (eleven months ago) link

Loud and also uncomfortable frequencies (at least to my ears).

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 29 July 2018 15:05 (eleven months ago) link

@ the Oakland show - always memorable ingesting reactions to Holocaust section. Oakland crowd seemed meditative and accepting. A couple people seemed to go out of their way to make a show of themselves as if reacting on a different emotional plain - maybe they were, I can't say. Denver crowd 5 years ago was incredulous, confused - and favorite part was seeing front stage security eventually turn around in confusion, wondering if they hit a glitch in their life.

Well worth seeing any show @ The Fox in Oakland, just for the record.

57mg/20floz, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

fucking great last night at Hammerstein ballroom, a place I had not been to in 13-14 years. Sound is not great in that room and I was mostly near the doors, so if the sound was crushing for people closer to the stage, it was not devastatingly loud.

so so exciting to hear "soon" pumping away, and the 2013 shit was excellent. and it was an alt rock show of the sort that I used to attend a lot but do not any longer. Smashing Pumpkins was basically across the street.

veronica moser, Thursday, 2 August 2018 16:20 (eleven months ago) link

ah damn sounds like fun xpost

eris (Ross), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:22 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

extra tickets released yesterday for all the sold-out venues on the current world tour

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Friday, 12 October 2018 19:35 (nine months ago) link

Lol http://thequietus.com/articles/25475-my-bloody-valentine-two-new-albums

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 13 October 2018 07:03 (nine months ago) link

Every picture of them they remain young as ever.

everything, Saturday, 13 October 2018 07:34 (nine months ago) link

I think they played 2 new songs at the Shrine in July. One had Kevin playing an acoustic and it seemed fine but didn't make much of an impression one way or the other, but I'm not sure that means much - the sonics weren't great at the venue, at least compared to the first time I saw them at FYF Fest 5 years ago, so it was hard to get a gauge on the lower-key material; I hadn't re-listened to the band's prior work in a good 2 or 3 years and everything but a handful of songs from Loveless and mbv was basically a blur for me. The other song that I'm sure was new was a "TV Eye" style rave-up, most of it one chord repeated incessantly, and it was FUCKING AMAZING. Based on that one song alone I eagerly await their next release. I'm pretty much positive it'll emerge sometime in the next half decade. And I hope we hear the one after that before global warming claims us all, but I'm not so fucking sure - Kevin Shields was already talking follow-up EP back when mbv dropped, after all.

It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Saturday, 13 October 2018 08:27 (nine months ago) link

re-listened to the band's prior work in a good 2 or 3 years and everything but a handful of songs from Loveless and mbv was basically a blur for me.

you know what, too easy

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 13 October 2018 11:57 (nine months ago) link

there was a new song with acoustic guitar last night, too; the sound was so great (a million times better than six years ago in Sydney) that I winced seeing him holding it, in fear of how sharp he was going to make it sound

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Saturday, 13 October 2018 23:15 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

??

https://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 27 January 2019 08:24 (five months ago) link

Their lilac phase

imago, Sunday, 27 January 2019 08:50 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

The return of Kev’s beemer
http://www.imagebam.com/image/da1af21218383654

calstars, Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:06 (two months ago) link


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