The Breeders - Classic or Dud?

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Kim Deal went from indie-rock goddess to fondly-remembered historical figure pretty quickly. I don't recall Title TK causing all that much buzz. But I dusted off Last Splash the other day and it sounded pretty good and all. What say you?

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 12 July 2003 23:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, yeah, Title TK. Ha. Forgot all about that thing.

Famous Athlete, Saturday, 12 July 2003 23:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Good shite. That Amps album is excellent too.

ham on rye (ham on rye), Saturday, 12 July 2003 23:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Good pop music. I'd call it "ace" but I'm not that much of a jackass.

David Allen, Saturday, 12 July 2003 23:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. Kim Deal causes reactions in me that Justin Timberlake causes in my NSync-addicted younger cousin. I'd hump her leg on principle alone.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 12 July 2003 23:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. Jeanne Fury is OTM re: humping. My loins tingle with excitement about the prospect of Kim Deal's knee being presented.

Xii (Xii), Sunday, 13 July 2003 00:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, its all about Josephine wiggs.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 13 July 2003 00:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic; made a world of difference in my teenage life and it still holds up today.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 13 July 2003 00:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Title TK was a bit overlooked, Last Splash has stood up pretty well and Pod fucking rocks and will do in 200 years time.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Sunday, 13 July 2003 00:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Amps were kinda not-so-good, Title TK is better than one would have expected altho it's no classic by any stretch. I'm too familiar (in a contempt sort of way) with Last Splash to objectively rate it.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 13 July 2003 00:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

also Title TK one of Albini's shittiest sound jobs

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 13 July 2003 00:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"recorded all wave" yeah big deal, Deal

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 13 July 2003 00:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is Kim Deal only hot because she plays an instrument and has a great voice? Let's face it...without those two things, she looks like a long-haul truck driver.

Breeders = Classic up to (and, on the right day, including) Title TK.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 13 July 2003 02:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

there is no hope for some people.

di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 13 July 2003 02:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

my apologies andrew, i'm sure you have *really* sophisticated taste in women.

di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 13 July 2003 02:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

pod was genius, been pretty hopeless since.

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 13 July 2003 02:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Kim Deal rocks the femme rocker casbah.

The Breeders = major, major classic. Many of my fondest adolescent memories were soundtracked by The Breeders' music. Plus, Kim Deal has the most brilliant sense of humor. I saw her on the cable access program "The Hondo Show" recreating a scene out of Showgirls with one of her Amps bandmates and the host of the program. The fact that I can still remember this about four years after I saw it first is a testament to how memorable the scene was/is.

And Title TK needed to be in the Top 40, damn it.

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Cannonball" was probably the best most unexpected single to come out of thee grunge years (closest thing I can think of = the Slits' "I Heard In Through The Grapevine").

Ess Kay (esskay), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like the Breeders. Reminds me of my care-free 9th-grade days when I hung out mainly with 5 chicks who were all 3 to 6 years older than me and would buy smokes and booze for me. Also, Whipsmart by Liz Phair, did a lot of listening to that back then. A year later I met the Funkey Monkey Records/Helltime Productions guys (Mike Siciliano and Frank Fornsaglio, now in Pittsburgh rock band Stilyagi), started a band with them, alienated any female persons that I knew by adopting their Lee Vingesque anti-PC/anti-everything approach and had the best time of my life by discarding and demoralizing anything anyone I knew ever held of any importance besides the rock and the roll. Now I'm a lame married guy. Ha.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Pod, along with most of Last Splash, is stone cold classic WITHOUT QUESTION, MONSIEUR! And a girl I used to date made out with Kelly Deal in front of me. This of course meaning I've tasted Kelly...OH YEAAAAA!!! *does quirky dance*

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

KNOWWHARRAMASAYIN'?

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

She does look like a truck driver, in the best possible way. 'Title TK' is great, just no big major blah THING. And good for it. And they were great live. AND their bassplayer's called Mondo (by Kelley, anyway)

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 13 July 2003 12:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed Title TK a hell of a lot. And not simply because the opening track is called "Little Fury." ;) I think people were too damn eager to write it off. There are some great great songs on that album, "Huffer" in particular.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 13 July 2003 12:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like the production/recording a lot, too, though it took a while to get into it.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 13 July 2003 12:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, its all about Josephine wiggs.
Apropos of nothing really...but have you ever seen Josephine Wiggs and Robert Smith at the same place at the same time?
Neither Have I.
Look at the photos below. Make up your own mind if something suspicious is going on or not.
http://www.chaoscontrol.com/current/dustytrails/cover.jpg
http://www.abc.es/festivales/reportajes/FIB2002/images/Cure.jpg
or this pair...
http://www.noaloha.com/breeders/pictures/press/tn/volume_05.jpg
http://www.laganzua.net/discos/discos4/imagenes/thecure.jpg
are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 13 July 2003 19:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yes: Robert Smith is really Josephine Wiggs with her hair messed up.
< /THREAD HIJACK >

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 13 July 2003 19:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

classic. Title TK is nowhere as good on a pop level, but Steve Albini's work makes Deal's voice truly astonishing. It's like a documentary that's so fascinating you're indifferent to its value as a work of art. I think there's filler on everything she's done, but they're all rewarding albums. Kelley Deal's solo stuff has some similar appeal.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 13 July 2003 20:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i think title tk was overlooked by most. it's not a classic as pod, but it stands out as a great rock album.

lord custos, are you on crack?

joan vich (joan vich), Monday, 14 July 2003 09:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

am I the only one who likes them more than the Pixies?

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 14 July 2003 10:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is it because you like girls more than boys?

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 14 July 2003 10:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I mean I can't really seperate them, even after 15 or however many years it is. It's probably a great pity Kim's role in the Pixies was limited to bass/very occasional writing/fantastic (never sucky) backup singing.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 14 July 2003 10:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC.
title tk was a bit eh.
POD is so classic, i want cut off my arms and waive them around until the windows are pink.
kelly is uber sweet- buy her a beer & get her talking about efx/pedals/guitars.

kephm, Monday, 14 July 2003 13:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Based on the show Chris Barrus and I caught a couple of months back, they very much still have it, so long may they rock, etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 July 2003 14:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Pod - brilliance.

Last Splash - my CD's been played so much it's gone all quiet and muffled and basically fucked (I didn't even know this was possible but...there you go), loveit loveit loveit even though "Cannonball" was for years the most overplayed indie club tune EVAH and - for shame - ended up immediately preceding my departure from whichever club on the grounds that "if the DJ's still playing that...sheesh" etc.

Title TK stands up well with the above, agreed, but I've perhaps not given it the exhaustive attention it deserves. Hmmm.

Anyway. Breeders=brilliant, Jo Wiggs was always my favourite but now she's disappeared (anyone remember Honey Tongue? Aces). Is she related to Pete?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 14 July 2003 14:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What exactly is classic about Pod? It's a decent album and all, but it sounds really quite slight to me. I just can't imagine loving it.

Title TK is pretty good as well. But Last Splash fucking rocked like a monster when I was in middle school and still does so when I listen to it now. I listen to it a lot now.

Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Monday, 14 July 2003 14:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

But Last Splash fucking rocked like a monster when I was in middle school

Good God I am old.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 14 July 2003 14:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'll get yer Metamucil. We can be like those two old guys in I'm Not Rappaport.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 July 2003 14:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Pod was better.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 14 July 2003 14:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

POD is so classic, i want cut off my arms and waive them around until the windows are pink.

How exactly are you going to wave them if they're already cut off?

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 14 July 2003 17:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Based on the show Chris Barrus and I caught a couple of months back, they very much still have it, so long may they rock, etc.

I'll bet Ned started crying and gnashing his teeth when they played the theme to Buffy though!

Lars (Nicole), Monday, 14 July 2003 17:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The hell?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 July 2003 17:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What exactly is classic about Pod? It's a decent album and all, but it sounds really quite slight to me. I just can't imagine loving it.
Title TK is pretty good as well. But Last Splash fucking rocked like a monster when I was in middle school and still does so when I listen to it now. I listen to it a lot now.

-- Tom Breihan (lazerbee...), July 14th, 2003

Well, I think I know what your problem might be. Them ol' pair of ears need some quick replacing, gramps! :)

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

++POD is so classic, i want cut off my arms and waive them around until the windows are pink.

"How exactly are you going to wave them if they're already cut off? "
--My name is Kenny


SH*t you're kidding right?

KING KONG, Monday, 14 July 2003 18:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

what about the amps? everybody slogs the amps! pod is great.
last splash is a perfect summreday soundtrack. i went right out and bought title tk, some tree and a six pack on a hot summers afternoon in brooklyn and sweated thru the damn disk. geeze. what a fucking drag. it took ten years to sound like this? npr is more fun. the next day i went up to the little record shop in parkslope and traded it in for a used copy of last splash and three bucks- got a quart of beer and sat on the fire escape and relived the splendid sunshine of the summer that it came out.
ten damn years ago when i lived in the country and things were so much simpler....

kelly denison-cole (dustjacket), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I think I know what your problem might be. Them ol' pair of ears need some quick replacing, gramps! :)

-- Francis Watlington (peppermintsmok...), July 14th, 2003.

No! Dude! I get to make fun of you for being old! That's how it works! Nobody gets to make fun of me for being young! Don't make me fuck you up with my Nerf dart gun!

Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The hell?

They've been playing it at most of their recent live shows, I wasn't saying it for the sake of being random.

Lars (Nicole), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

pod- great
safari - great
last splash - great & personal-top-five-easy
amps - great
title tk - eh
breeders singles - great, esp josephine singing, like "lord of the thighs" & "900"
j wiggs experience - great and criminally overlooked
dusty trails - great except for emmylou harris song
kelley deal 6000 - need to reinvestigate, not positive memories

(and yes i like the breeders way more than the pixies)

(btw the amg is a little messed up for kelley deal. boom boom boom doesn't show up under 'kelley deal 6000' but does under 'kelley deal')

ron (ron), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They've been playing it at most of their recent live shows, I wasn't saying it for the sake of being random.

I remember a cover of "The Angry Inch" from Hedwig, which is far cooler on several levels. Or so I deem.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 July 2003 19:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They also made a cameo appearance on Buffy too. They played @ The Bronze in that episode about that kid w/the magic letterman jacket.

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Monday, 14 July 2003 19:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The Amps album is funny in that I hardly remember too many tracks, but I'm more likely to listen to multiple times in a row than most albums I own.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Want you, koo koo, handonbag

i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:19 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

http://www.kimdealmusic.com/

tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:51 (four years ago) Permalink

Man, I bought the 7", and it's pressed really shittily - the center hole is too small to fit over the spindle on my turntable! I tried to force it down but the belt wouldn't move. I'm not sure what to do - definitely a drag.

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 18 January 2013 01:01 (four years ago) Permalink

doh, that is lame. i didn't even know about this til today...

tylerw, Friday, 18 January 2013 02:40 (four years ago) Permalink

when this used to happen to me I'd use the scoop-bladey thing on a Swiss Army knife to enlarge the spindle hole

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, 18 January 2013 16:03 (four years ago) Permalink

I've only bought like 2 7"s in the last 8-9 years though

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, 18 January 2013 16:04 (four years ago) Permalink

prob still works tho

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, 18 January 2013 16:04 (four years ago) Permalink

Stick the pen end of a biro in the hole and turn it back and forth a few times, that usually sorts it.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 18 January 2013 16:19 (four years ago) Permalink

walking with a killer is kinda great

tylerw, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:35 (four years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

New Kim Deal single released today!

http://www.kimdealmusic.com/

cwkiii, Monday, 29 April 2013 04:55 (four years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

http://vimeo.com/89355190

cwkiii, Thursday, 20 March 2014 23:16 (three years ago) Permalink

HELL YES

Do they produce all their own stuff? I always love the sounds they get. They seem to never have a producer mess w anything on their albums, it always sounds like it was EXACTLY what they wanted to do. Love them forever for it!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 March 2014 23:30 (three years ago) Permalink

Albini is their most common producer, but they've worked with various others. Kim co-produced Last Splash.

Charles, hatless (sic), Friday, 21 March 2014 00:23 (three years ago) Permalink

Cool, I guess I always loved Albini's minimalist recording style. The new stuff sounds like it could have been recorded in the 90s! That's a good thing!

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 March 2014 00:48 (three years ago) Permalink

Kim Deal is such an inspiration to me. Just wish she would do more stuff.

Hinklepicker, Friday, 21 March 2014 19:18 (three years ago) Permalink

omg this song

surm, Friday, 21 March 2014 19:27 (three years ago) Permalink

New Kim Deal single released today!

http://www.kimdealmusic.com/

― cwkiii, Monday, April 29, 2013 5:55 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HOW DID I MISS ALL THIS

surm, Friday, 21 March 2014 19:31 (three years ago) Permalink

I did my best. :)

cwkiii, Friday, 21 March 2014 19:44 (three years ago) Permalink

:) ty

surm, Friday, 21 March 2014 19:49 (three years ago) Permalink

That was sweet

slathered in smuckers (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 23 March 2014 12:16 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXYjys3bI1k

1990, live session (recording of POD?): When I Was A Painter / Iris
Kim, Josephine, Tanya and Britt

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 March 2014 02:59 (three years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Not QUITE a new Breeders song but when it's a Kim solo single that happens to feature both Kelley and Britt Walford, well then:

http://vimeo.com/110603858

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:40 (three years ago) Permalink

man i love the sound of those drums

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:58 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

October 15 - Glasgow, Scotland @ ABC
October 16 - Dublin, Ireland @ Vicar St.
October 17 - Manchester, England @ Academy 2
October 18 - London, England @ Electric Ballroom

October 22 - Amsterdam, Holland @ Melkweg Max
October 23 - Antwerp, Belgium @ Trix
October 24 - Berlin, Germany @ Heimathafen
October 25 - Copenhagen, Denmark @ Vega

October 27 - Paris, France @ La Gaite Lyrique

October 29 — St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Centre (supporting Arcade Fire)

November 1 — Detroit, MI @ Magic Stick

November 3 — Boston, MA @ The Sinclair
November 4 – Washington, DC @ Lincoln Theater
November 5 – New York, NY @ Bowery Ballroom
November 6 – Philadelphia, PA @ Union Transfer

November 8 – Portland, OR @ Wonder Ballroom
November 9 – Seattle, WA @ Showbox at Market

November 12 – San Francisco, CA @ The Independent
November 13 – Los Angeles, CA @ El Rey Theater

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 20:07 (four months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

pic.twitter.com/1FvIqTK3tn

— theBreeders (@thebreeders) October 1, 2017

geoffreyess, Sunday, 1 October 2017 14:53 (one month ago) Permalink

oops

I've been in the habit of listening to those 2013-14 Kim Deal singles as a full album, if this ends up as good as that I'll be thrilled.

geoffreyess, Sunday, 1 October 2017 14:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Somehow I completely missed that Kim Deal has released 6 singles in the last 5 years!

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Sorry, 5, she just guested on a single by another band

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:22 (one month ago) Permalink

digging this new song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i76b0OrdIQ

woman in the dunes, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 13:51 (one month ago) Permalink

so so so good. i love the Breeders. if anyone is ever sad about what happened to the Pixies they just need to check out the Breeders, they are still solid.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 14:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Also they absolutely smoke live

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 14:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Played Title TK yesterday for the first time in a long while, had almost forgotten how great it is. Also my LP is worth some money I saw as I checked discogs :)
Looking forward to a new album (&tour!).

willem, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 14:50 (one month ago) Permalink

yep this rules

maura, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:38 (one month ago) Permalink

This is better than anything Frank Black has farted out in the last 10 years.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Phantastic. They sound exactly like 25 years ago.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Nah, 21st century Breeders >> 20th century Breeders. Title TK is their best album, although Pod/Safari is a close second for me. Kim's writing and delivery gets better and looser every year.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 02:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Title TK is their best album

How cute.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 02:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Wait in the Car is now my default alarm clock sound.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 04:11 (one month ago) Permalink

Holy shit!! Those B-sides!!:

"Wait In the Car" will be released on three different seven-inch records, all limited to 1,500 copies. The first will be available on the Breeders' upcoming tour dates, starting October 15th. That record will be pressed on orange vinyl and feature a cover of Amon Düül II's "Archangel's Thunderbird," recorded with Steve Albini in Chicago. The second seven-inch will be available at select independent record stores starting October 27th. Pressed on yellow vinyl, that version will feature a cover of Devo's "Gates of Steel" on the B side. A release date for the third seven-inch has yet to be announced, though it's expected to arrive later this year, will be pressed on red vinyl and feature Deal's cover of Michael Nesmith's "Joanne."

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 05:57 (one month ago) Permalink

xp don't try to tell me the bloated, overproduced Last Splash is better than TK

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 06:17 (one month ago) Permalink

wait, they're back to the O.G. lineup?!

alpine static, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 07:37 (one month ago) Permalink

sorry, i guess i don't mean O.G., i mean what i would consider their "classic" lineup (Deal/Deal/Wiggs/MacPherson)

alpine static, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 07:40 (one month ago) Permalink

They reformed that lineup for the 20th anniversary of Last Splash

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 08:14 (one month ago) Permalink

huh. i guess i missed that. thanks.

alpine static, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 08:25 (one month ago) Permalink

I totally forgot how great Pod is. <3

StanM, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:48 (one month ago) Permalink

Omfg @ the Amon Duul II cover. Best news I've heard in freakin months!!!

the underground is pass-agg (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 7 October 2017 09:23 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

This song is so incredible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtcXD3cefuA

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 04:16 (one week ago) Permalink

kim is one of the only ppl worth suffering thru marc maron for. she's so great.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Saw them open for Arcade Fire a couple of weeks ago, they were in good silly spirits (if a bit subdued). Ended with "Gigantic."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:47 (one week ago) Permalink

They sold out their London show a few weeks ago in about 5 minutes, but I got lucky and one of my friends managed to obtain 2 free tickets and asked me if I wanted to go with him, which of course I did. Was absolutely great.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:27 (one week ago) Permalink


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