REM: Classic or dud?

Murmurs.com has finally closed up for good.

Shit, forgot about Chance (Dub). used to love that one.

61. “Why Not Smile” (Oxford American Version)

loved this so much. was sad -- did not smile, as it were -- when up came out and sounded nothing like it.

I bought the new Unplugged set yesterday and listening now I notice that they edited out Stipe's opening to "It's the End of the World..." when he says MTV made them play it and that he didn't remember the words so someone had printed them out for him.

12. “Shiny Happy People” (Dance To The Music Mix)
13. “Shiny Happy People” (Pop Mix)
14. “Shiny Happy People” (Hip Mix)

uh

14. "Hello, I Love You" [Psychedelic Version]
15. "Hello I Love You"
16. "Hello I Love You" [Slight Return Mix]

it was the 90s maaaaaaaan

12. “Shiny Happy People” (Dance To The Music Mix)
13. “Shiny Happy People” (Pop Mix)
14. “Shiny Happy People” (Hip Mix)

uh

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Someone should make a 'Dance To The Music & Pop Your Hip Mix'.

"Shinier, Happier" (Thom Yorke Mix)

which was the godawful '91/'92 era b side recorded live at the Bingo Hand Job gig? it's them and Bragg yukking it up improvising doing EMF's Unbelievable and such? a get-of-the-bus moment for many old fans i'm sure.

awwww I love that show. was it "Tom's Diner" you're thinking of?

Baggy trousers!

yeah that "Tom's Diner" is one of the "Near Wild Heaven" b-sides, had to check

$80 is a lot for a collection of mp3 rarities, even if there are a 130 of them

yeah if it was some kind of bargain, i'd be interested, but it is not...

$60 on emusic if you have a membership (still too much though IMO)

I actually liked the Bingo Hand Job thing. Thought it was funny at a time when they desperately needed to counter the seriousness a bit. This compilation does highlight my get-off-the-bus moment though. The 1994 SNL appearance.

Highlighting single episodes in the 90s/00s where REM fans got off the bus is fun

Shiny Happy People video has to be one. That awards show where Stipe wore all those different t shirts must be another

I had one leg out of the bus circa Around The Sun, but got yanked back on board with Accelerate. That was probably the closest I came to not giving a shit about this band.

https://twitter.com/derekmballard/status/252759100520280064

That version of "Wall of Death" is so great.

Got off the bus with "Everybody Hurts" but got right back on the first time I heard "What's the Frequency, Kenneth" on the radio

i think i have everything on this prior to say 1993 via cassettes people from Usenet mailed me. "Ghost Rider" and the acoustic "Pop Song 89" are standouts iirc.

the 2001 "Cuyahoga" is gorgeous but he changes the best line to "we are not your allies, we cannot PRETEND". grrrrrr

(talking about the new Unplugged again)

Listening to the first Unplugged right now and realize how much Fretless stands out as one of the best tracks on the whole set.

What's the Frequency, Kenneth? is such a fun song. I'd forgotten.

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/04/michael_stipes_the_cold_lands_soundtrack_his_first_new_music_since_r_e_m_s_disbandment/

“Go fuck yourselves, the lot of you—you sad, attention-grabbing, power-hungry little men,” Stipe said in a quote emailed to The Daily Beast. (He was likely referring to Trump and Cruz, two Republican presidential contenders who spoke at the rally.) “Do not use our music or my voice for your moronic charade of a campaign.”

Mike Mills, Peter Buck and others did "(Don't Go Back To) Rockville" in Norway the other night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOqtuzguQKU

feel like old REM vinyl has hit an all time low. you can buy a decent copy of Murmur or Reckoning for under ten bucks online if you look hard enough. you could get 40 bucks for an original chronic town online 5 years ago. now you can find it for ten. i mean you can STILL get all kinds of prices for everything on a good day, just noticeable that if you wanted a complete 80's vinyl collection, now would be the time to buy one. you could probably do it for a hundred bucks if you look around for a month or so on ebay.

(anecdotal, but no 20something or younger has ever asked me if i had any REM...)

some of the first records i bought (in the late 90s) was early R.E.M. Plenty of cheap clean copies around at the time, or so it seemed.

Murmer through Life's Rich Pagent, anyway. Don't remember seeing Document much.

man the pricing for LP copies of Monster is still going strong!

I did recently pick up a very nice West German pressing of Out Of Time for like $12 or so, it sounds great.

20-somethings were still watching Teletubbies when REM last released a good single, so I can't say I'm hugely surprised at their lack of interest.

I got a decent Murmur for $2.50 a little over three years ago.

Wonder if they've also suffered from shifts in the sonics of cool music? Like when I was buying those albums 15 years ago, jangley college rock and the weirder, Wire/Pylonier sound of Chronic Town still seemed, I dunno, relevant to the landscape of where indie rock was at. Lord knows they were in lots of lists. Could imagine that's changed a bit...?

That's too bad if so. But hey, let the bargains flow for those who don't care about the sonics of "cool music."

pylon records have gone up in the meantime. you can get 30 bucks for chomp or gyrate.

That's great! Not parting with either of mine tho.

seems like they were pretty cheap forever.

my 80's shocker of the day: got a nice u.s. copy of substance and was gonna put it out in the store for like 20 bucks. then i decided to look it up just in case and i sold it for 50 dollars on discogs. !!! substance! it took like an hour to sell it. not even a u.k. copy. i saw copies going for 70 dollars on ebay. you can get low-life for like 10 bucks. it must have more sentimental value or something? i had no idea.

even technique sells for more than low-life these days. poor low-life...

50 bucks? My record collection is worth more than I thought. Not selling any of it, though. Listening to them all is how I'm going to spend my nursing home years.

I've seriously only ever seen one copy of Chomp in the wild. Somehow didn't get it at the time and have been hoping to bump into one ever since. But I'm the type who really only *wants* to find things by chance, in the wild.

Man, poor Low-Life indeed. Such a great album. Technique is better though, so. . .

And, out here on the west coast, I've never seen a Pylon album. Ever.

Wonder if they've also suffered from shifts in the sonics of cool music?

Sure, and just normal generational eclipse. Anecdotally from my wife and her millennial coterie, R.E.M. barely registers at all. They maybe know Automatic for the People, but that's about it. To them, R.E.M. has always been a bunch of boring old dudes.

I'm sure there will be some occasion for a renaissance/rediscovery.

Gyrate used to be a bargain bin staple down here (NZ). Never seen Chomp tho. Suddenly realised, at this point I can prob recoup the money I blew on records in the 90s and 00s, kinda plsed

Forget the Beatles/Zep/Nirvana visibility, REM don't even seem to have the cross generational visibility of U2, Metallica, Joy Division, even Sonic Youth (to give examples of more immediate peers)

God knows what it will be like in 20 years