Don Cherry - s/d

Cherry's appearance on 'Escalator Over The Hill' is one of the real highlights of that alb.

Yeah, that 'Communion' reish is terrif; I also really like the 1988 'mainstream' alb 'Art Deco', which features a tenor player called James Clay, an underrecorded Texan contemporary of Ornette's, plus the classic rhythm section of Charlie Haden and Billy Higgins.

Has anybody heard that recentish BBC concert recording?

and i always had a feeling i wouldn't like Ornette. i have no idea why, just one of those prejudices you build up from stuff you read. i'm sure if i had some, i'd totally dig it. the only Ornette record i have is "Dancing in Your Head", one of his free-funk albums, which i love with all my heart.

thanks for these threads jason. plenty to check out.

'brown rice' might be my don cherry OPO, and i'm a big fan. the blue note trilogy is fantastic (esp. "symphony for improvisers"), and yeah, i'll second the "escalator over the hill" nod.

'eternal now' hasn't been mentioned yet, so i'll throw it out. it's cherry and the swedes in smaller ensembles, with some piano work and wooden wind instruments. it's a strong step towards the less identifiably "jazz", more uniquely "don cherry" music.

You do owe it to yourself to listen to him with Ornette. I have a special fondness for his work on the Complete Science Fiction Sessions, there's some fire on that shit.

http://users.northroute.net/~rpepper/celebs/doncherry2.jpg

wait, he plays music too, you say? THIS i gotta hear!

thee t

the two sets are trios. one is cherry, his wife mocqui on tamboura (ouch) and bennik. the other is cherry, johnny diani and okay tamiz (don't ask, i don't know).

the pieces seem compositionally similar to the "eternal rhythm" and "w/ penderecki" albums but they lack the power of those big groups and also ramble on more. can you imagine mu pts. 1+2 played w/ the E.R.O. (i can't). it doesn't help that the sound uniformly sucks and the percussion is generally pretty flat.

the one bright spot is a 20 minute improv on the "si ta ra ma" vocal chant that's mostly unaccompanied cherry. well, there's a bongo, but damned if i register anything but cherry. sounds dubious, i know, though i love it love it love it.

the albums most similar to humus are "eternal rhythm" and "eternal now" because they feature large ensembles. "orient" is similar in aim but it has a much smaller group of players. because it is a live album though it has similar energy. "mu 1+2" are also similar but it's a duo, and a studio recording, so it's much more meditative and less kinetic than "humus".

"humus" is very similar to pharoah sanders late 60s and early 70s work: "tauhid", "izipho zam", "karma" and "summun bukmun umyun" are definite must-haves. they are more focused and polished than cherry's work but similar in the blend of eastern and western motifs, and the energy playing, and the wild percussion, etc. also check out early alice coltrane (ptah the el daoud, world galaxy, universal consciousness) and maybe late john coltrane (crescent might be a good starting point). possibly even clifford thornton or archie shepp in morocco or even the jazzactuel 3cd reissue sampler box, that may be a good start.

these are similar to "humus" in overall sound but not in the way "humus" uses several different forms over the course of a composition - free playing giving way to funky stuff giving way to an eastern section or a ragtime or whatever. if i remember correctly, that is unique to "humus" in cherry's recordings. so for that angle, maybe check out the early 70s work of the art ensemble of chicago, sun ra, and charlie haden (particularly the liberation music orchestra recording mentioned above).

Seeing him and his battered pocket trumpet really got me into Ornette and then Jazz in general.

http://www.mingeringmike.com/images/lps09_20.jpg

http://www.mingeringmike.com/images/lps03_20.jpg

Another good'un not mentioned yet: Vibrations, possibly my favourite Albert Ayler record.

More?

i may have mentioned this on another Don Cherry thread (or a terry riley thread), but there's a tape of the two of them playing sometime in the mid-70s that is one of the greatest things I've ever heard. it's reallyreallyreally beautiful.

I want that

http://davecook.blog-city.com/don_cherry.htm

^ terry riley / don cherry

I love you

Is there anything more from that session?

cos it's fucking great.

I've been told to listen to rip rig & panic by a lot of people but haven't got round to it yet.

I saw Don Cherry live, solo, some time in the second half of the 80s. I liked it but I don't remember much a this point, except that he played lots of different instruments and it was fairly laid back.

does anybody have the credits to the holy mountain soundtrack?

I have it at home somewhere in the DVD box (I only have El Topo on my ipod)

i listened to Brown Rice over the weekend and my almost-five-year-old daughter thought it was hilaaaaarious. "what is this guy doing?!"

Sorry if already mentioned, but leave us not forget Mr. C's input re The Bells and Between Thought and Expression. Also here (get it while you can):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2GQQ6OelDo

and here (Wiki say DC co-wrote)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvkeqXFtiKw

Also, Neneh Cherry & The Thing's The Cherry Thing is a fave of recent years; think Don would have dug it.

i listened to Brown Rice over the weekend and my almost-five-year-old daughter thought it was hilaaaaarious. "what is this guy doing?!"

lol

daughter otm also great album

Really enjoying the "See You in a Minute: Memories of Don Cherry" CD (2006)
by Berger Knutsson Spering trio and guests including Nenah and Eagle-Eye on a couple vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz9zTzbNwjo

Begnt Berger's Bitter Funeral Beer with Cherry has been in my heavy rotation this past year, really wonderful hybrid of Eurojazz and African traditional. The concert footage transcends the LOL 80s garments (or maybe it's enhanced by it) tho' Cherry himself cuts a sharp profile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALp9N_lS_b8

came here to post a track from the "bitter funeral beer" record ... yeah, it's good !

can't believed i missed picking up a copy of this 2xLP

just classic classic cherry with the dollar brand / carlos ward line-up that's also on "the third world-underground" recorded only a week apart in nov. '72

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvFRTZLyASg

"why don't you try brown rice?"

love to hear him sing

Well, for one thing, it's that it's actually not my music, because it's a combination of different experiences, and different cultures, and different composers, that involves the music that we play together, or that I'm playing when I'm playing alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M6U7gZ0np4

linked to upthread but now long-gone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ox2IAo3g0
Don Cherry & Terry Riley ‎– Tambourinen Session, Copenhagen, 1970

i somehow only recently learned that Sandy Bull played with Don Cherry at various points. Where are the tapes!???

hmm i wonder if billy higgins was the link there

anyway, learning this just now ! very intriguing

here you can find william parker talking about playing with don cherry and sandy bull:

http://archive.soundamerican.org/sa_archive/sa14/sa14-the-interviews.html

sandy bull discussion comes in c. 7min

JC: How big was the group that he invited you to play with?

WP: Well, we had Ed Blackwell, we had Billy Higgins, we had Frank Lowe [...] Sandy Bull was playing oud. So it was a big group. And I had been playing with Frank Lowe already [...] and this materializes as tapes of this concert now. Which I have somewhere, someone gave me a CD of it.

somebody call william parker !!!

heyo!

William Parker: You see, Don could play with anybody. He could go to Turkey and play with the Turkish musicians. Go to Africa, go to Egypt, go to India. He could play with Lou Reed, he could play with Muddy Waters. And then you could say, "Oh wow, that's Don." He would never lose his identity no matter what kind of music he was playing, but he could always feel comfortable in playing any kind of music.

[...]

In Don's world, it was that everything is music. You know, the melody, the rhythm, the folk, the electronics, 'cause he's done stuff with electronic music. So he had no fear of any kind of music. Which shows you that it's not the style of music, and it's not the content of the music. It's the soul and spirit of the music that makes it work.

^ highly recommend listening to the whole interview

nice thanks ... seems like there's definitely a recording.

http://www.bb10k.com/PARKER.disc.html

June, 1975 / The Five Spot, New York City

—The Cherry Quintet was at the Five Spot from the 3rd through the 8th. No exact date on this, but it does not match 75.06.07.
1. unknown title [33:17]  (incomplete, cuts in at beginning, out at end)
"Just heard snippet of ‘Butterfly Friend,’ one of my favorite songs..." —Steven Joerg

"Frank Lowe said it was Sandy Bull in an interview he did at WKCR-FM [during] a Don Cherry festival..." —Ras Moshe

"...I met Don Cherry. He invited me to play at the Five Spot with him in '75 for a week, my first gig at a major jazz club."
—William Parker interview/article by Steve Holtje, WIRE #152 October 1996 p.24

Don Cherry (tp, el-p, voc), Frank Lowe (ts), Sandy Bull (g, oud?, perc?), William Parker (b), Roger Blank (dr)
{WP Archive CD-R; New York Magazine June 9, 1975 p.25; Steven Joerg 03.08.28; Ras Moshe 03.02.04}

wonder how one gets a hold of that ..

WP would have been around 23 at the time

dang!

“benny banana on trumpet, benny banana !”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaQrKnnxsz0

(@3:31)

you just love to hear him sing

this is a perfect song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-mrsRDTs-E

<3 moki & neneh

http://irenebrination.typepad.com/.a/6a00e55290e7c4883301bb08efba9097

more here:

In a Multi-Art World: ‘Moment - Moki Cherry’ @ Moderna Museet, Stockholm

^ not sure if this worked, sorry

posted this in the dollar brand thread, posting here for the cherryheads who might have missed it:

https://soundcloud.com/purediamond/dc-cw-db-berlin-72

"third world underground" lineup; same year, different city

also here's that moki / neneh photo

https://i.imgur.com/JSgbGXe.jpg

amazing pic!

is that berlin show the same as this one? https://www.discogs.com/Don-Cherry-Carlos-Ward-Dollar-Brand-Universal-Silence/release/13545963

yes

it's literally a vinyl rip of the 2xLP

From a recent Rolling Reissues post, pasted from Record Store Day list:
PENDERECKI/DON CHERRY & THE NEW ETERNAL RHYTHM
Actions
DON CHERRY
Cherry Jam

For more info, check this list and click on artists/titles:
https://recordstoreday.com/NewsItem/9003

yes !

i pre-ordered my copy from soundohm, who still have copies in stock:

https://www.soundohm.com/product/actions-lp

From Sounds of the Universe, Soul Jazz Records' store---retitled, with new cover:
https://soundsoftheuniverse.com/img/WExVVUt1TXJib0xzamI4SDA3aTJ2QT09/tibet-1981-don-cherry.jpg

New LP PICD3515£12.99
In stockADD TO BAG
1. Gamla Stan - The Old Town By Night
2. Love Train
3. Bass Figure For Ballatune
4. Moving Pictures For The Ear
5. Tibet
Originally released in 1974 as Eternal Now (Sonet SNTF 653) with different sleeve artwork. Deep world rhythms and music from the don.

that goes back to a US reissue from 1981 that altered the title / artwork. ETERNAL NOW is a 10000% better name and cover art:

https://img.discogs.com/1uDvymR3T8yOBQWJ3OSl-ehziEI=/fit-in/600x594/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-791728-1483632006-9779.mpo.jpg

between that and the recent reissue of BROWN RICE as DON CHERRY and without moki's original art, just smdh

Oh yeah, that is better! But this might be more findable.
They've got several others, got this one back in:
https://soundsoftheuniverse.com/img/Z1YyMS9iemJ4WVhKcDY2dXRSSGt0dz09/c6qyfg-waaun0hj.jpg

LP 18CACKLP£16.99
In stockADD TO BAG
1. Music, Wisdom, Love
2. Music, Wisdom, Love (Film Edit With Poetry)
Another essential release from Finders Keepers!

Reaching a near-mythical status amongst fans of free jazz’s most worldly intrepid explorer, these seldom heard Paris soundtrack sessions known as ‘Music, Wisdom, Love’ have evaded collectors’ grasps and confused historians for exactly 50 years. Instigated in Paris in 1967 and filmed during Don’s downtime on a visit to the Chat qui Pêche nightclub in March 1967 (where he played with Karl Berger, Henri Texier and Jacques Thollot), the bulk of this cinematic portrait was filmed on the streets of Paris under the direction of creative all-rounders Jean-Noël Delamarre and Nathalie Perrey who, as their careers bloomed, would become pivotal figures in underground French cinema - straddling La Nouvelle Vague, adult entertainment and cinema fantastique in what can only be described as speedball cinema.

Available for the first time ever and licensed from producer and director Jean-Noel Delamarre himself.

All the others they list have orig titles and covers, looks like.

"universal silence" now available on CD:

https://www.soundohm.com/product/universal-silence

the 1976 organic music society performance for italian television is now being made available on CD / vinyl and can be streamed here:

https://blacksweat.bandcamp.com/album/om-shanti-om

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3387948865_16.jpg
(cool cover art, too)

i'm still trying to work out if it's the same set that's been available on youtube, just re-arranged or differently-excerpted. either way the sound quality of this new release is much, much better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu3OLnQvl-g

Thanks budo, and what a label!!!! Also they have the aforementioned Bitter Beer---all tracks streaming here:
https://blacksweat.bandcamp.com/album/live-in-frankfurt-82

two new releases of previously-unreleased recordings coming this summer via blank forms, great artwork too:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0011/0588/7297/products/BF-024SummerHouseSessionscover_550x825.jpg
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0011/0588/7297/products/BF-023Chateauvalloncover_550x825.jpg

Avant-garde jazz trumpeter Don Cherry and textile artist Moki Cherry (née Karlsson) met in Sweden in the late sixties. They soon began to live and perform together, dubbing their mix of communal art, social and environmentalist activism, children’s education, and pan-ethnic expression “Organic Music.”

We have a robust program dedicated to this woefully under-examined period of the couple’s visionary collaborative practice planned for this spring, including an art exhibition at our Clinton Hill space, a special issue of our anthology, two archival records, and—with luck—a performance program.

In anticipation of this season-long series, we are now taking pre-orders for our Organic Music Societies anthology as well as two albums of newly unearthed music by Don Cherry.

https://blankforms.org/publications/new-and-upcoming/

whoa

Niiiice. I need to hear last year's Om Shanti Om as well.

it's incredible! and free on youtube iirc

ja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52vRcMbYf-0

cool! Om Shanti Om is 10/10.

this...was not the don cherry i was thinking of

a one-off, daylong radio show via blank forms –– tune in sunday!

https://blankforms.org/events/the-great-trip-rare-and-unheard-music-from-don-cherry/

The Great Trip: Rare and Unheard Music from Don Cherry

Sunday, March 7th, 2021
9:00 AM EST | 2:00 PM GMT | 3:00 PM CET

In anticipation of the “Organic Music Societies” exhibition, Blank Forms will be presenting a daylong radio show dedicated to Don and Moki Cherry’s life in Sweden and beyond on Sunday, March 7th starting at 9 a.m. EST. Key recordings from the early ’60s through late ’80s, including rare and private music, will be diffused by hosts Lawrence Kumpf and Adrian Rew, as well as international guests Mats Gustafsson and Magnus Nygren. The show will additionally include live interviews with Neneh Cherry, Naima Karlsson, Famoudou Don Moye, and Bengt “Beche” Berger, as well as a performance by Christer Bothén. The program will be livestreamed exclusively, with no archive to follow, so tuning in is the only way to hear this material. A full schedule with more details is forthcoming.

somebody Audio Hijack that shit plz

From bigozine2's roio stash ---haven't had time to listen yet, but this lloks promising; get it while you can (gotta download it track by track)

Disc 1
Track 101. Allah-o-Akbar/Waya-wa-Egoli/Blues For America/Kalahari 21:35
Track 102. Ntsikana’s Bell/Good News (false start)/Don (flute solo) 9:53
Track 103. Good News/Don (trumpet solo)/Little Boy 7:32
Track 104. African Sun 5:51
Track 105. The Stride/The Pilgrim, part 1 27:55
73 mins

Disc 2
Track 201. O Berimbau (Nana’s solo) 14:16
Track 202. The Pilgrim, part 2/unknown/Bra Joe From Kilimanjaro 19:04
Track 203. Cherry/unknown/Waya-wa-Egoli 23:52
Track 204. unknown/Blues For America 10:46
Track 205. Cherry (incomplete) 2:07
71 mins

Lineup:
Don Cherry - trumpet and more
Dollar Brand - piano
Nana Vasconcelos - percussion
Johnny Dyani - bass
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=4857&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=faa4c6474dec1ceddc5b428a1af0fbbd0d8a0efe-1614992030-0-AVPGvRvqJDdvQTM7C5fMDLLpAic4N7EyaOzSCu66EVvV2Y0Lqlzqu-lOI0hRLN6Vgab99YD_OilEoPanVhOpXjhJ7UAreQfKRogm4_MIsiARIWjKwv4frNt4k5zvw3jdfmYkbamzeFQNKnrSc0XsKNtR_lG_64a9KcikFM1C-u5WUhEBufmVJPjHe-yN6sj86X1hzd8WEtJELk5kTngCNbzhuf2xEm0xGvNuG8ZzDN5Ikon7seuTOm2pue4TNf6ROMM_uhDaM6JMenrU90Mw_s8WES7Kx58okIFOQta1Xoj33P384yvfyP5TWi9TStUqsb9-tdMo-qCP8Wo_hDPvyrA