Alice Coltrane - S/D

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she's probably my second or third favorite artist ever. i really don't like everything she's done, but i love even those albums of hers i don't like. here's a rundown of the albums of hers i own.

A Monastic Trio - this is the only album of hers i don't own, but i've heard it plenty of times and would recommend it.

Huntington Ashram Monastery: her second solo album. a sparse trio (her, ron carter and rashied ali). beautiful modal work. not as spacey, out or eastern as her later work. kind of a stepping stone album for me.

Ptah the El Daoud - beautiful. the three reissued Impulse albums (this, journey, and monastic trio) are sort of like companion pieces to me. all are amazingly beautiful, spiritual albums.

Journey in Satchidananda - definitely my favorite of all of her albums (and one of my favorite albums of all time). the addition of the tamboura, oud and bells really sets this album over the edge for me. and pharoah's playing is just amazing. i put this on for dinner parties and even though it's kinda out, after a few glasses of wine, we're all passed out on the floor in bliss.

Universal Consciousness - i'll be honest. i'm not the hugest fan of her string arrangements. some of the more tame stuff is alright, and maybe if i were a fan of stravinsky, i'd 'get' it more. her pieces with organ are pretty cool on this album. so half of this i like, and half i'm sorta ho hum on.

World Galaxy (aka Alice Coltrane With Strings) - for some reason, the strings on this album don't bother me as much. maybe they're playing tunes and themes and aren't just freaking the fuck out? the organ tracks (especially A Love Supreme) kick major ass. i just saw that movie The Guru the other night, so it's kinda funny hearing her swami talking about love before she plays a funky organ version of the song.

Lord of Lords - an all strings album. probably my least favorite out of everything she's done.

Eternity - i love this album. why? because she plays a Fender Rhodes. it's also a lot more rooted in blues and jazz than some of her prior albums that were all about free jazz and stravinsky. Om Supreme is such a beautiful song. (one of the only songs of hers that i know of that has lyrics in english). and is it coincidence that the day i decided to move from Chicago to SF i bought this record? the lyrics are "when i told you to come to California, you know i'd meet you in California." it was one of those moments in my life that truely made sense. oh yeah, and "Los Caballos" has her organ soloing over a latin jazz rhythm?!

Radha-Krsna Nama Sankirtana - a very strange album. she was becoming a very strange lady fer shure. it's a Hare Krishna chant record, but the backing music is totally upbeat organ playing that sounds like it's straight out of the church. a beautiful mixture of east & west spirituality.

Transcendence - just like Radha-Krsna, side B of this record is the Krishna chanting over church organ and clapping. i seriously listened to this side of the record every day for about 2 months. side A is more of her mellow string stuff. i hardly ever listen to that side.

Transfiguration - i only own one of these two records. i bought a white label test pressing of it, but it only had one disc. it's a trio of her on organ, supported by bass and drums. pretty neat little album. she loves the wammy bar on her organ. almost over uses it, but it's still pretty cool.

Illuminations - this is an album put out between Alice and Carlos Santana. it's from 74 and is pretty heavy fusion. good if you like fusion (i do).

Infinity - a record put out under John's name. it's a posthumous album where Alice added string arrangements to some of John's later freer pieces. given that i don't really like her string arrangements, i think this album is pretty suck. but the album cover is pretty rad

JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 7 July 2003 22:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Journey in Satchidananda This is extremely predictable coming from me, but I find the oud on this a little disappointing, compared to what I consider to be really great oud playing. I admit, I have very strict ideas about what good oud playing should sound like.

I like Pharoah Sanders playing here, especially on the title track. More restrained than usual, which I think is a plus, but not less expressive for it.

(This is the only AC album I've heard all the way through.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 7 July 2003 22:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Monastic Trio rulz

and what's the one where it's just her on organ and her son on drums for all of side 2? That one RULES

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 03:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

No love for Stellar Regions?

ben welsh (benwelsh), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 04:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Alice Coltrane's 'Universal Conciousness'

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 06:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah i saw that thread. just wanted to talk about the rest of her stuff.

julio, have you heard any of her other albums since that one?

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 06:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

no but this thread is a good reminder (see the 'aske the ages' thread).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 07:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i saw someone post recently that they're glad everytime there's a resurgence in ILM's interest in jazz. it's probably the genre that i know the deepest, but i've been kinda bored of it lately. it's time to start other threads

(except for me it's bed time right now)

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 07:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

... a great artist, a pity she turned into such babbling pseudo-mystico-airhead.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

''Radha-Krsna Nama Sankirtana - a very strange album. she was becoming a very strange lady fer shure. it's a Hare Krishna chant record, but the backing music is totally upbeat organ playing that sounds like it's straight out of the church. a beautiful mixture of east & west spirituality.''

maybe turning into a ''babbling pseudo-mystico-airhead'' wasn't such a bad thing from what jason is saying above.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Buy "A Monastic Trio", it's very good, especially the bonus tracks on the CD re-issue

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah i think i'll buy a record or two this afternoon.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

got a monastic trio yesterday- the second side (with alice on harp) was particurlarly wonderful. good to hear more jimmy garrison. he would be quite constant, providing backbone, i think (he did a solo on the last track) and alice and rashied would swirl around him.

dada is correct- the 4 extra tracks are good and pharoah makes a mark, to say the least (apart from the flute solo was inaudible but the liner notes say that). one of the extra tracks is a piano solo from alice and that is a fitting end.

bcz of this thread i got also got 'Ptah...' and 'journey...', which i plan to listen to tonight.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 10 July 2003 09:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Good choices Julio but I confess to finding "Eternity" far too woolly and new agey for my tastes

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
she loves the wammy bar on her organ. almost over uses it, but it's still pretty cool.

I don't know what a wammy bar is, but I think I know exactly what you are talking about, since I'm listening to Transfiguration (which I just bought). My favorite thing, I'm afraid, is simply the sound of the electric organ. Her playing seems too noodly for me a lot of the time. I kind of like this bass solo. (I seem to suddenly be receptive to bass solos lately. Very peculiar.)

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
just got universal consciousness, after listening to it and staring at it in my record store for two years. this shit rules. is journey TS better? it seems to get more mention around here...

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma? i know hes on it... what is a good comparison-point album?

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 14:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma?

yes

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

but with harp and minus Leon Thomas

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

maybe ill yodel along.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

and i don't really like Universal Conciousness all that much and love Journey

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, I do love his yodeling!

Tim Ellison, Monday, 21 June 2004 16:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Alice is recording a new album this year, with Ravi Coltrane on sax and I forget who on bass and drums. The only things of hers I currently own are Ptah and Illuminations, but I'm gonna have to get more, as I've been on a big Pharoah kick lately.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma?

sorry but i don't think JtS is at all like karma!! karma builds to an enormous energy music freakout. there's no crescendo on JtS. it's much calmer and prettier and less "out" than either karma or universal consciousness. it's really similar to ptah the el daoud, actually, very eastern and exotic and slow and blissful.

my favorite alice coltrane albs are "world galaxy" (for reasons jason pointed out above) and definitely "the elements", which is actually a joe henderson + alice coltrane album.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

im really intrigued by world galaxy, i think. is it only a JPN impulse release on cd?

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

pretty sure. i paid about $28- for mine and i'm totally happy with that.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

and i don't know why "universal consciousness" is so popular, either. i've found it impenetrable.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i like the structure of hare krishna and sita ram, and the organ tone on most of it. i have only listened a few times, so i havent penetrated it either, to any great degree, but ill see how it goes after a few more listens.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 18:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

just got universal consciousness, after listening to it and staring at it in my record store for two years. this shit rules. is journey TS better? it seems to get more mention around here...

"Journey" is easier on the ear definitely. I love both albums.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Agree with Vahid re. the worthiness of paying $$$ for an import of WORLD GALAXY. "My Favorite Things" and the funky-as-sin version of "A Love Supreme" are the standouts but dear lord, check out those disorienting tape effects on "Galaxy Around Olodumare"! Strings have never sounded so alien.

The Sepia Tone reissues of the Warner albums are cheap and easy to find, though I'd only recommend ETERNITY (the latin psych trip of "Los Caballos" erases all notions of wooly new ageisms) and the live trio date, TRANSFIGURATION. I still consider Alice to be the only other who could match Larry Young's godliness on the organ.

doug watson (solid air), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

omigod. thank you guys for convincing me to get "journey in satchidananda". within 5 seconds, i was knocked on my ass by this album. now, 5 whole minutes in, im comatose with awesome-music-shock. i mean, im sure ill like universal consciousness almost as much eventually, but it is definitely not as immediate as this.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

definitely get joe henderson + alice coltrane's "the elements" then. it's like JiS, but a bit dubbier (there's more multitracking and tape delays and effects pedals), a bit darker, a bit more exotic, and there's beat poetry and shit too.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Has anyone heard her new album, Translinear Light? Any good?

Jonathan (Jonathan), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

wow. thanks for the heads up. AMG gave it a great review. it sounds like it's gonna be kind of a crazy record.

Vahid, i ended up picking up that Joe Henderson record and it sounded great, but i think i've just not been in a jazz mood lately and only listened to it twice :(

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, Alice & Ravi with Jeff Watts, James Genus, Charlie Haden, and Jack deJohnette. This is the first time I've been excited about a jazz record in awhile.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wait, it's all new Alice Coltrane material?!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

OMG syndrums!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Just finished listening. It's all new Alice material except for some trads (American and Indian) and Crescent (the song).

The first half is okay...the syndrums aren't very noticeable, it's just sounds like tabla and those lower pitch-bendy Indian drums whose name I don't know. She does play some questionable synthesizer on a few songs, but the cool Wurlitzer playing on other songs makes up for it.

The second half picks up a lot. 'Leo' is like Interstellar Space except with Alice, Ravi, and deJohnette, sleigh bells and all. Crescent is really nice too, as are the two duets (Alice with Charlie Haden, whom I always love hearing, and Alice on organ with an Indian choir).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i'd like to hear this – her duet with haden on his "closeness" lp is great too

jones (actual), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for this.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Japanese version of Translinear Light also contains a bonus track - a cover of A Love Supreme Pt. 1

And, concurrent with its release, Huntington Ashram Monastery and Lord of Lords are both out on CD (in Japan, that is)

Dr Benway (dr benway), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 04:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
I just got Translinear Light and listened to it a couple times today. I think it's possibly the album of the year for me so far, al-out heavy and emotional. The first track actually sounds a bit like the Theatre of Eternal Music. I don't think I've heard organ playing like the playing on this album before, with all those pitch bends making it like guitar and sax solos. The saxes just cut through. I like the synth washes a lot myself.

The only thing I don't get is the need to end with a track of Sai bhajan chanting. I'd visit my parents' friends on weekends if I wanted to hear that. But, whatever, I guess it has meaning for her.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 29 November 2004 03:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
world galaxy is now my favorite by a good bit. the tape effects at the end of "my favorite things" are incredible. still have only heard PtED, JiS, UC, and WG (and actually a little bit of transcendence a few years ago) - i wanna hear LoL and AMT next.

impulse should try to get the rights to her entire back catalogue (or cut in the other labels a little)and put out a complete alice box. that would be a great release.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "World Galaxy" is stunningly brilliant. Classic. "Galaxy in Turiya" is glorious.

Turangalila (Salvador), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Alice Coltrane is one of the few spouses that I can think of that has such a solid catalogue. But I stand by my declaration of Ptah as the BEST! (Though, in the interest of self-criticism, I'll be listening to the rest again now... Gorgeous, gorgeous jazz...)

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

so just to be clear, someone who really, really likes Journey in Satchidananda should get what next? Ptah? Monastic Trio?

Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Tyler Wilcox, definitely go for Ptah, The El Daoud. Mmm. "Blue Nile" is too lovely for words.

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

(Incidentally, isn't the intro to Journey in Satchidananda one of the *best album intros evah*? Mmm. That awesome bassline.)

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'd say go with Ptah, but that's because, again, it's my favorite and I have trouble recommending, y'know, one of the other great albums if you don't already had that one.

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Well, the thing about some of the other great albums (e.g., UC, WG) is they're aiming toward a different sound. If you like the 'Ptah' and 'Journey In Satchidananda' aspects of Alice it doesn't necessarily follow that you'll like her other stuff.

I personally *prefer* her more mystical, string-laden music. I think it's absolutely beautiful and unique. In fact, the only song I really like on Transcendence is "Prema"---and it's mostly due to the beautiful string arrangement.

"Lord of Lords" also has some great pieces, like her rendition of Stravinsky's "Firebird," and the beautiful, joyous "Going Home."

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

cool, thanks for the info. the only other AC CD i have is the most recent one, which strikes me as more of a grab-bag of various styles. i've heard a couple songs from the more string-laden releases and dig that too. but "journey" is really knocking my socks off currently. can't quite believe i hadn't heard it up until a few months ago! it's got a really amazing, sustained groove throughout that i don't think i've heard anywhere else. and the more eastern instrumentation mixed with that harp mixed with pharoah sander...wow!

Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I don't hear much difference between the CDs I have and the posted online on the NPR site? Certainly they didn't particularly call for any remastering, they sound fine. But I get it that making them more easily available is a reason enough for a reissue. I would definitely buy Turiya Sings if they ever come to reissuing it, since with that one it really is impossible to find a copy. Seems like the comp only has one song from that album though?

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Tuomas, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:17 (one year ago) Permalink

breaking that down in terms of tracks per album:

Turiya Sings: Rama Katha

Divine Songs: Om Shanti, Rama Guru, Rama Rama, Hari Narayan, Er Ra, Keshava Murahara

Infinite Chants: Om Rama, maybe a different Rama Guru, Krishna Japaye

Glorious Chants: Journey To Satchidananda

so a pretty good overview, this is cool

― sleeve, Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:32 AM (one month ago)

sleeve, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:21 (one year ago) Permalink

haha, red bull is on board.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-iNM0BVoAAsDUm.jpg:large

tylerw, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:54 (one year ago) Permalink

makes me want to slurp down a red bull!

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 April 2017 23:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Ravi Coltrane and the ashram's choir are doing a RBMA Nyc show of Alice's music in late may, hence that bullboard

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 April 2017 17:10 (one year ago) Permalink

wow, german 2015 bootleg of "turiya sings" must be some real black market shit. discogs won't allow anybody to list it for sale

meanwhile, some jerk is trying to get $250 for the original cassette

HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE INSANE

budo jeru, Saturday, 29 April 2017 21:20 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm interested in why Alice Coltrane is having her moment now. Like, what's coming together that makes her speak to so many that she's moving from being a cult artist to a widely adored artist. Like the Robert Johnson moment in the late 80s, culminating in the reissue, or Gang of Four circa 2001.

pavane to the darryl of strawberry (bendy), Sunday, 30 April 2017 02:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I think it must at least partially have to do with L.A., Flying Lotus, Kamasi & neo-spiritual jazz, etc.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 30 April 2017 03:50 (one year ago) Permalink

I 'own' all the ashram records, but have never really experienced them as discrete experiences, as such - partly due to the fact of owning them digitally, I guess. Anyway, in reflection I like the group chant exercises well enough, but it's Alice on her own with minimal swelling synth backings that transport me. Of the tracks on the new compilation, it's 'Keshava Murahara' that utterly destroys me.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 5 May 2017 19:11 (one year ago) Permalink

i like this new compilation a lot. tuomas off the money

the late great, Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Geeta Dayal posted this early footage on twitter yesterday, great to see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H6sRYIaChw

Picking up the comp on Monday.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:27 (one year ago) Permalink

damn that is awesome

tylerw, Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:31 (one year ago) Permalink

wow

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Cool.

Trelayne Staley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:39 (one year ago) Permalink

did i ever write itt abt alice playing w arthur russell

schlump, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:08 (one year ago) Permalink

it is a mystery anyway

hyped to hear this record !, these tapes are so beautiful but i don't think i ever got my blogspots in a row to hear every last thing

schlump, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:09 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm sure this has been linked here before - maybe even by me - but it is wonderful. I think her piano version of Giant Steps might be my favourite version ever. And the interview is charming.

pickety third (stevie), Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:38 (one year ago) Permalink

I would definitely buy Turiya Sings if they ever come to reissuing it, since with that one it really is impossible to find a copy. Seems like the comp only has one song from that album though?

Yes - the "vinyl only" bonus track, which is lame (I want this on CD)

Double shot of "Om Shanti" and "Rama Rama" is just an incredible 15 minutes of music

Will buy all the single-disc reissues if / when they materialize

Wimmels, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 06:14 (one year ago) Permalink

I hear the Sade thing

The last few minutes of "Journey to Satchidanada" get kinda "Janitor of Lunacy," don't they?!

Amazing music

Wimmels, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 06:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Forgot to post my link above http://www.npr.org/2011/09/23/140743198/alice-coltrane-on-piano-jazz

pickety third (stevie), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 07:12 (one year ago) Permalink

i love this performance, esp the middle minutes and closing section where she's complimenting the glissandos with the single-plucked harmony. there's no way (for me) to describe it without sounding like a jackass but she creates a tremendous feeling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNG7tmIQx4

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 16:23 (one year ago) Permalink

great stuff

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 17:38 (one year ago) Permalink

I finally just picked up Transcendence on ebay for a decent price. Looking forward to hearing it. I think the only pre-ashram LP I'm missing now is World Galaxy, which used to be common and cheaper, but is now fetching bigger $$$, not sure why.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 11 May 2017 20:35 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Kind of a grey day here in the old Orange County, so I ventured over to Barnes and Noble to grab a cup of coffee and see if they might have stocked this by total chance.

And they did!

Listening now, wonderful, and totally complimentary to today's mood.

Tuomas — what the hell's your problem, man?

Austin, Monday, 29 May 2017 17:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Tuomas, like, many an ilxor, is the self-styled protector of certain artist's discographies. In his case the list of artists include Alice Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders. By logical extrapolation this might also include McCoy Tyner, but I'm not sure.

Guidonian Handsworth Revolution (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 May 2017 17:56 (one year ago) Permalink

I figured it may have something to do with the now "less obscure" status of this material and his bitterness about that. Snobs gots probs.

This music, though: so haunting, so gorgeous.

Austin, Monday, 29 May 2017 19:34 (one year ago) Permalink

There was a doublepack set of live stuff upped to Dime over the last few days. 1 28 minute track from '71 and 4 or 5 tracks from '74 I think. Credits were a bit confused.

Stevolende, Monday, 29 May 2017 19:46 (one year ago) Permalink

I figured it may have something to do with the now "less obscure" status of this material and his bitterness about that. Snobs gots probs.

Thanks for telling me how I'm being snobby and bitter when I didn't even know it myself, how illuminating!

I'm perfectly happy these albums are getting a wider release cos now people can objectively judge whether they really are worthy of their semi-mythical status. I bought Infinite Chants and Divine Songs a couple of years ago, and since I love both Alice Coltrane and good New Age music, I really wanted to to love them, but to my ears they're not just that special. Some nice overdriven synth sounds played by Coltrane, but most of what makes her jazz albums so distinctive (her innovative arrangements, deep cosmic/gospel grooves, her harp playing!) just isn't there. Take away the synths and the rest of it sounds like the stuff I heard at the local Hare Krishna temple in the '90s when I went there to mooch on the free vegan food they were serving. It's pleasant, functional music for service, but it's hardly as inspired as her jazz material, and there's plenty of b

Tuomas, Monday, 29 May 2017 22:01 (one year ago) Permalink

...there's plenty of better, freakier and more idiosyncratic New Age music available too along these lines.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 May 2017 22:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Found the vegan.

Austin, Monday, 29 May 2017 22:12 (one year ago) Permalink

yo stevolende could you cut n paste the info about the 71 and 74 live sets? thanks! curious -- i've heard the carnegie hall "africa" and then there's another pretty lo-fi 71 tape in Berkeley. Don't think I've heard anything from 74.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 20:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Found these two Alice Coltrane shows online as a set. Both sets remain unissued, and thus are suitable for dime. The first track is from a private tape of the 1971 Carnegie Hall performance, which had 4 songs total.
Full info for first set here (only Africa is included in this .torrent, I would love to get the rest if anyone has it) http://www.angelfire.com/id2/laotan/1971.html
Ed Michael, producer of this and many other recordings of Pharoah, Alice and John coltrane writes on his web site: "This was a recording made at a concert to celebrate Swami Satchidananda's birthday, presented by Sid Bernstein, which also featured The Rascals and Laura Nyro. Amazingly, it remains unissued."
In addition he says: "These were running times from my stopwatch at the concert, so may not be absolutely precise. The whole thing does exist. It was recorded on 4-track tape, and Alice Coltrane has a copy of the 4-track, and, if I am not mistaken, the original master as well."

Dug a little deeper for the info on the second set and also found the included PDF which contains some original ad for the event. Apparently it was the 5th Annual UC Jazz Festival at Greek Theatre, University of California. Seemingly the whole set is here. Other acts that night included Sun Ra and The Last Poets to name a few.

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ORIGINAL INFO:

Alice Coltrane
Carnegie Hall
February 21, 1971

FM

Alice Coltrane - piano, harp
Pharoah Sanders - ts, ss,fl, perc, fife
Archie Shepp - ts,ss,perc
Jimmy Garrison - b
Cecil McBee - b
Clifford Jarvis - d
Ed Blackwell - d
Tulsi - tamboura
Kumar Kramer - harmonium

1. Africa (28:35)
____________________________

Alice Coltrane
Berkeley, CA
April 23, 1971

Audience
The torrent seed itself says 71 and 74 but the info all says 71. So maybe it is all 71. I thought the players in the band might be wrong for 74.
anyway this is copied straight from the site.

Alice Coltrane, p, harp
Archie Shepp reeds
Pharoah sanders reeds
Frank Lowe reeds
Jimmy Garrison bass
Clifford Jarvis drums

2. Journey in Satchidananda (Alice Coltrane) 11:47
3. unidentified 7:36
4. Africa (John Coltrane) 25:33

Stevolende, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:10 (one year ago) Permalink

thanks! ok, yeah, i think that berkeley tape is the one I've heard -- great performance, pretty distant sound. worth hearing though.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

that just posted in a weird way, not sure why the info got in front of the comment from me which was

The torrent seed itself says 71 and 74 but the info all says 71. So maybe it is all 71. I thought the players in the band might be wrong for 74.
anyway this is copied straight from the site.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:12 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah I was confused about that 71/74 difference as well (shrugs)

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:12 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

this ecstatic music comp is amazing. I really want to sample and loop certain bits for some nice saer-style house music

Shat Parp (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 09:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

In my ongoing personal Alice Coltrane revival, I think I've come to the realization that Transcendence from 1977 is her overall prettiest album, and therefore, ranks pretty highly for me.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:48 (eleven months ago) Permalink

agreed, could have titled it 'Ambient 5: Music for Ashrams'

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:19 (ten months ago) Permalink

I believe there is a Panduranga Henderson album recorded with Alice Coltrane at Shanti Anantam Ashram coming soon too.

stirmonster, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:21 (ten months ago) Permalink

the new ecstatic comp was the opening music last night at the Swans concert, right before they went on. earlier (and after) it was Terry Riley's 'Shri Camel' and Monk's 'Dolmen Music'. good company.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 24 August 2017 20:02 (ten months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

and here it is

https://soundsoftheuniverse.com/product/panduranga-john-henderson-ocean-of-love

the late great, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

whoa

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

after getting assed out on that sun ra exotica set I should pick this up before I have to seek it from an ebay vulture

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 20:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

fwiw the Sun Ra set is available digitally on Bandcamp

sleeve, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:03 (seven months ago) Permalink

Being on Luaka Bop.it should be around for a while, no. But I'm not bothered about vinyl so it's easy to be blasé.

I wonder if Inner Path had original copies of this sitting around all that time.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:08 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah i've been listening to it like crazy - it's great (xp)

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

so much late pass but after 'liking' alice coltrane for a long time i feel like she's finally starting to click for me in a major way. turiya sings but also ptah the el daoud, which just feels like a place of refuge to me now.

map, Saturday, 14 April 2018 05:40 (three months ago) Permalink

"Turiya & Ramakrishna", off of ptah the el daoud, is so beautiful. it is one of the songs of 2018 for me

Karl Malone, Saturday, 14 April 2018 05:57 (three months ago) Permalink

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=619318

Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda: The Ashram Experience
March 24, 2018
Knoxville, TN @ St. John's Cathedral - Big Ears Music Festival

internal mics > Zoom H1 > WAV > CD Wave Editor (tracking) > FLAC

01. Invocation
02. Introduction by John Schaefer
03. Sivaya
04. Rama Rama
05. Krishna Japaye
06. ???
07. Journey To Satchidananda
08. Om Shanti
09. ???
10. ???

The Sai Anantam Ashram Singers
??? - keyboards
??? - drums

Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda: The Ashram Experience
The Sai Anantam Singers will guide an intoxicating journey through Alice Coltrane’s devotional music with Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda: The Ashram Experience. These profound performances—publicly available at long last—will be a rare treat for Big Ears audiences.

Alice Coltrane died in 2007, exactly four decades after her husband and collaborator, the saxophone titan John Coltrane. In the years immediately after his death, Alice admitted, she struggled immensely, a single mother of four mourning the loss of an extremely creative partnership. She began to heal, though, when she stumbled into the teachings of an Indian guru and the spiritual peace offered in the practice and customs of Hinduism. She traveled to India, founded a spiritual center in San Francisco, and eventually relocated to an expansive ashram in the hills of Southern California. Alice Coltrane—the jazz musician whose Journey In Satchidananda had become a cult classic—became Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda, the leader of a religious practice that depended upon, as one might imagine, traditional devotional songs given an unlikely soulful update.

The eight tracks of 'The Ecstatic Music of Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda'—the first release in a series of spiritual records from Luaka Bop, the eclectic bastion launched by David Byrne—were culled from a set of cassettes Turiyasangitananda released for her followers between 1982 and 1995. The crowd gathered for the service becomes an ad hoc choir for these bhajans, or songs of devotion, with Coltrane’s warm mahogany voice leading them in spirited recitation. Funky handclaps and circular drums, astral synthesizers and droning tamboura wrap beneath the words, alternately suggesting primal Detroit soul and trance-inducing calm. The songs seem to smear time itself, so that ten-minute spans seem to pass in a perfect moment. A decade after her death, Coltrane’s Sai Anantam is selling its land and disassembling. But these profound performances—publicly available at long last and revived live by a longtime group of devotees in rare concerts—will last forever. The ensemble will perform twice at Big Ears 2018.

Stevolende, Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:19 (three months ago) Permalink


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