Alice Coltrane - S/D

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she's probably my second or third favorite artist ever. i really don't like everything she's done, but i love even those albums of hers i don't like. here's a rundown of the albums of hers i own.

A Monastic Trio - this is the only album of hers i don't own, but i've heard it plenty of times and would recommend it.

Huntington Ashram Monastery: her second solo album. a sparse trio (her, ron carter and rashied ali). beautiful modal work. not as spacey, out or eastern as her later work. kind of a stepping stone album for me.

Ptah the El Daoud - beautiful. the three reissued Impulse albums (this, journey, and monastic trio) are sort of like companion pieces to me. all are amazingly beautiful, spiritual albums.

Journey in Satchidananda - definitely my favorite of all of her albums (and one of my favorite albums of all time). the addition of the tamboura, oud and bells really sets this album over the edge for me. and pharoah's playing is just amazing. i put this on for dinner parties and even though it's kinda out, after a few glasses of wine, we're all passed out on the floor in bliss.

Universal Consciousness - i'll be honest. i'm not the hugest fan of her string arrangements. some of the more tame stuff is alright, and maybe if i were a fan of stravinsky, i'd 'get' it more. her pieces with organ are pretty cool on this album. so half of this i like, and half i'm sorta ho hum on.

World Galaxy (aka Alice Coltrane With Strings) - for some reason, the strings on this album don't bother me as much. maybe they're playing tunes and themes and aren't just freaking the fuck out? the organ tracks (especially A Love Supreme) kick major ass. i just saw that movie The Guru the other night, so it's kinda funny hearing her swami talking about love before she plays a funky organ version of the song.

Lord of Lords - an all strings album. probably my least favorite out of everything she's done.

Eternity - i love this album. why? because she plays a Fender Rhodes. it's also a lot more rooted in blues and jazz than some of her prior albums that were all about free jazz and stravinsky. Om Supreme is such a beautiful song. (one of the only songs of hers that i know of that has lyrics in english). and is it coincidence that the day i decided to move from Chicago to SF i bought this record? the lyrics are "when i told you to come to California, you know i'd meet you in California." it was one of those moments in my life that truely made sense. oh yeah, and "Los Caballos" has her organ soloing over a latin jazz rhythm?!

Radha-Krsna Nama Sankirtana - a very strange album. she was becoming a very strange lady fer shure. it's a Hare Krishna chant record, but the backing music is totally upbeat organ playing that sounds like it's straight out of the church. a beautiful mixture of east & west spirituality.

Transcendence - just like Radha-Krsna, side B of this record is the Krishna chanting over church organ and clapping. i seriously listened to this side of the record every day for about 2 months. side A is more of her mellow string stuff. i hardly ever listen to that side.

Transfiguration - i only own one of these two records. i bought a white label test pressing of it, but it only had one disc. it's a trio of her on organ, supported by bass and drums. pretty neat little album. she loves the wammy bar on her organ. almost over uses it, but it's still pretty cool.

Illuminations - this is an album put out between Alice and Carlos Santana. it's from 74 and is pretty heavy fusion. good if you like fusion (i do).

Infinity - a record put out under John's name. it's a posthumous album where Alice added string arrangements to some of John's later freer pieces. given that i don't really like her string arrangements, i think this album is pretty suck. but the album cover is pretty rad

JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 7 July 2003 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Journey in Satchidananda This is extremely predictable coming from me, but I find the oud on this a little disappointing, compared to what I consider to be really great oud playing. I admit, I have very strict ideas about what good oud playing should sound like.

I like Pharoah Sanders playing here, especially on the title track. More restrained than usual, which I think is a plus, but not less expressive for it.

(This is the only AC album I've heard all the way through.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 7 July 2003 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Monastic Trio rulz

and what's the one where it's just her on organ and her son on drums for all of side 2? That one RULES

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

No love for Stellar Regions?

ben welsh (benwelsh), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 04:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Alice Coltrane's 'Universal Conciousness'

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 06:50 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i saw that thread. just wanted to talk about the rest of her stuff.

julio, have you heard any of her other albums since that one?

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 06:53 (seventeen years ago) link

no but this thread is a good reminder (see the 'aske the ages' thread).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 07:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw someone post recently that they're glad everytime there's a resurgence in ILM's interest in jazz. it's probably the genre that i know the deepest, but i've been kinda bored of it lately. it's time to start other threads

(except for me it's bed time right now)

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 07:07 (seventeen years ago) link

... a great artist, a pity she turned into such babbling pseudo-mystico-airhead.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

''Radha-Krsna Nama Sankirtana - a very strange album. she was becoming a very strange lady fer shure. it's a Hare Krishna chant record, but the backing music is totally upbeat organ playing that sounds like it's straight out of the church. a beautiful mixture of east & west spirituality.''

maybe turning into a ''babbling pseudo-mystico-airhead'' wasn't such a bad thing from what jason is saying above.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Buy "A Monastic Trio", it's very good, especially the bonus tracks on the CD re-issue

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i think i'll buy a record or two this afternoon.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

got a monastic trio yesterday- the second side (with alice on harp) was particurlarly wonderful. good to hear more jimmy garrison. he would be quite constant, providing backbone, i think (he did a solo on the last track) and alice and rashied would swirl around him.

dada is correct- the 4 extra tracks are good and pharoah makes a mark, to say the least (apart from the flute solo was inaudible but the liner notes say that). one of the extra tracks is a piano solo from alice and that is a fitting end.

bcz of this thread i got also got 'Ptah...' and 'journey...', which i plan to listen to tonight.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 10 July 2003 09:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Good choices Julio but I confess to finding "Eternity" far too woolly and new agey for my tastes

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...
she loves the wammy bar on her organ. almost over uses it, but it's still pretty cool.

I don't know what a wammy bar is, but I think I know exactly what you are talking about, since I'm listening to Transfiguration (which I just bought). My favorite thing, I'm afraid, is simply the sound of the electric organ. Her playing seems too noodly for me a lot of the time. I kind of like this bass solo. (I seem to suddenly be receptive to bass solos lately. Very peculiar.)

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
just got universal consciousness, after listening to it and staring at it in my record store for two years. this shit rules. is journey TS better? it seems to get more mention around here...

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma? i know hes on it... what is a good comparison-point album?

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma?

yes

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

but with harp and minus Leon Thomas

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe ill yodel along.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

and i don't really like Universal Conciousness all that much and love Journey

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, I do love his yodeling!

Tim Ellison, Monday, 21 June 2004 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Alice is recording a new album this year, with Ravi Coltrane on sax and I forget who on bass and drums. The only things of hers I currently own are Ptah and Illuminations, but I'm gonna have to get more, as I've been on a big Pharoah kick lately.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma?

sorry but i don't think JtS is at all like karma!! karma builds to an enormous energy music freakout. there's no crescendo on JtS. it's much calmer and prettier and less "out" than either karma or universal consciousness. it's really similar to ptah the el daoud, actually, very eastern and exotic and slow and blissful.

my favorite alice coltrane albs are "world galaxy" (for reasons jason pointed out above) and definitely "the elements", which is actually a joe henderson + alice coltrane album.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

im really intrigued by world galaxy, i think. is it only a JPN impulse release on cd?

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

pretty sure. i paid about $28- for mine and i'm totally happy with that.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

and i don't know why "universal consciousness" is so popular, either. i've found it impenetrable.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

i like the structure of hare krishna and sita ram, and the organ tone on most of it. i have only listened a few times, so i havent penetrated it either, to any great degree, but ill see how it goes after a few more listens.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

just got universal consciousness, after listening to it and staring at it in my record store for two years. this shit rules. is journey TS better? it seems to get more mention around here...

"Journey" is easier on the ear definitely. I love both albums.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Agree with Vahid re. the worthiness of paying $$$ for an import of WORLD GALAXY. "My Favorite Things" and the funky-as-sin version of "A Love Supreme" are the standouts but dear lord, check out those disorienting tape effects on "Galaxy Around Olodumare"! Strings have never sounded so alien.

The Sepia Tone reissues of the Warner albums are cheap and easy to find, though I'd only recommend ETERNITY (the latin psych trip of "Los Caballos" erases all notions of wooly new ageisms) and the live trio date, TRANSFIGURATION. I still consider Alice to be the only other who could match Larry Young's godliness on the organ.

doug watson (solid air), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

omigod. thank you guys for convincing me to get "journey in satchidananda". within 5 seconds, i was knocked on my ass by this album. now, 5 whole minutes in, im comatose with awesome-music-shock. i mean, im sure ill like universal consciousness almost as much eventually, but it is definitely not as immediate as this.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

definitely get joe henderson + alice coltrane's "the elements" then. it's like JiS, but a bit dubbier (there's more multitracking and tape delays and effects pedals), a bit darker, a bit more exotic, and there's beat poetry and shit too.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Has anyone heard her new album, Translinear Light? Any good?

Jonathan (Jonathan), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

wow. thanks for the heads up. AMG gave it a great review. it sounds like it's gonna be kind of a crazy record.

Vahid, i ended up picking up that Joe Henderson record and it sounded great, but i think i've just not been in a jazz mood lately and only listened to it twice :(

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, Alice & Ravi with Jeff Watts, James Genus, Charlie Haden, and Jack deJohnette. This is the first time I've been excited about a jazz record in awhile.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait, it's all new Alice Coltrane material?!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG syndrums!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Just finished listening. It's all new Alice material except for some trads (American and Indian) and Crescent (the song).

The first half is okay...the syndrums aren't very noticeable, it's just sounds like tabla and those lower pitch-bendy Indian drums whose name I don't know. She does play some questionable synthesizer on a few songs, but the cool Wurlitzer playing on other songs makes up for it.

The second half picks up a lot. 'Leo' is like Interstellar Space except with Alice, Ravi, and deJohnette, sleigh bells and all. Crescent is really nice too, as are the two duets (Alice with Charlie Haden, whom I always love hearing, and Alice on organ with an Indian choir).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd like to hear this – her duet with haden on his "closeness" lp is great too

jones (actual), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't wait for this.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

The Japanese version of Translinear Light also contains a bonus track - a cover of A Love Supreme Pt. 1

And, concurrent with its release, Huntington Ashram Monastery and Lord of Lords are both out on CD (in Japan, that is)

Dr Benway (dr benway), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I just got Translinear Light and listened to it a couple times today. I think it's possibly the album of the year for me so far, al-out heavy and emotional. The first track actually sounds a bit like the Theatre of Eternal Music. I don't think I've heard organ playing like the playing on this album before, with all those pitch bends making it like guitar and sax solos. The saxes just cut through. I like the synth washes a lot myself.

The only thing I don't get is the need to end with a track of Sai bhajan chanting. I'd visit my parents' friends on weekends if I wanted to hear that. But, whatever, I guess it has meaning for her.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 29 November 2004 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
world galaxy is now my favorite by a good bit. the tape effects at the end of "my favorite things" are incredible. still have only heard PtED, JiS, UC, and WG (and actually a little bit of transcendence a few years ago) - i wanna hear LoL and AMT next.

impulse should try to get the rights to her entire back catalogue (or cut in the other labels a little)and put out a complete alice box. that would be a great release.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, "World Galaxy" is stunningly brilliant. Classic. "Galaxy in Turiya" is glorious.

Turangalila (Salvador), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Coltrane is one of the few spouses that I can think of that has such a solid catalogue. But I stand by my declaration of Ptah as the BEST! (Though, in the interest of self-criticism, I'll be listening to the rest again now... Gorgeous, gorgeous jazz...)

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

so just to be clear, someone who really, really likes Journey in Satchidananda should get what next? Ptah? Monastic Trio?

Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Tyler Wilcox, definitely go for Ptah, The El Daoud. Mmm. "Blue Nile" is too lovely for words.

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

(Incidentally, isn't the intro to Journey in Satchidananda one of the *best album intros evah*? Mmm. That awesome bassline.)

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd say go with Ptah, but that's because, again, it's my favorite and I have trouble recommending, y'know, one of the other great albums if you don't already had that one.

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, the thing about some of the other great albums (e.g., UC, WG) is they're aiming toward a different sound. If you like the 'Ptah' and 'Journey In Satchidananda' aspects of Alice it doesn't necessarily follow that you'll like her other stuff.

I personally *prefer* her more mystical, string-laden music. I think it's absolutely beautiful and unique. In fact, the only song I really like on Transcendence is "Prema"---and it's mostly due to the beautiful string arrangement.

"Lord of Lords" also has some great pieces, like her rendition of Stravinsky's "Firebird," and the beautiful, joyous "Going Home."

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

cool, thanks for the info. the only other AC CD i have is the most recent one, which strikes me as more of a grab-bag of various styles. i've heard a couple songs from the more string-laden releases and dig that too. but "journey" is really knocking my socks off currently. can't quite believe i hadn't heard it up until a few months ago! it's got a really amazing, sustained groove throughout that i don't think i've heard anywhere else. and the more eastern instrumentation mixed with that harp mixed with pharoah sander...wow!

Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, yeah there are certain AC records that maybe aren't quite right for social situations.

thanks for the Sarathy Korwar tip, hadn't heard of it ...

tylerw, Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:25 (two months ago) link

Is jazz the music that changes the most when someone else enters the room in which you're listening?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:30 (two months ago) link

And I'm sure the Korwar was discussed somewhere relatively recently. Anyway, this is a banger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z_3t5un6sI

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:31 (two months ago) link

you mean the music itself is liable to change, or that the listener's subjective experience of it changes when someone else is present?

xp

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:32 (two months ago) link

because yeah, it's a little of both!

i can't have late 60's/70s sun ra on when someone else is present, because even if it's a calm and relatively melodic section, who knows what is going to happen at any moment. it can totally change character at any moment (which is part of the appeal!)

but also, i can listen to a pretty standard "jazz" album and think it's peaceful and non-distracting, but if someone else walks in they might fixate on all that ring-ting-tingling on the cymbal and want to change it immediately

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:35 (two months ago) link

Dave Alvin (yes, the Blasters/X/Flesh Eaters dude) has a new band called The Third Mind with ex-members of Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven, and the first track on their self-titled album is a fairly Dick Dale-ish version of "Journey In Satchidananda":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C6iXB911F4

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:35 (two months ago) link

Yes to all of that, Karl Malone! There's something about tuning into jazz that gets disrupted when another consciousness enters the room - it can go from something edgeless and erotic to all hips and elbows and tripping over one's own toes in seconds.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:38 (two months ago) link

all that ring-ting-tingling on the cymbal

btw, that was a reference to a classic ilm thread that i can never seem to find, but i finally remembered!

What's with that constant cymbal tapping in jazz drumming?

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:42 (two months ago) link

for those who haven't read it, it starts with this classic pair of posts

This is one of the things I find annoying in the sound of a lot of jazz. Why did this become so common? Does anyone else find it annoying?
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, December 25, 2002 3:46 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

aaarrggghhh, yes, that endless ride cymbal tapping, it drives me NUTS. one of the biggest reasons that i hate jazz. oh, what, apart from it being crap and all. argh, the treble overpower of it all...

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:42 (two months ago) link

idk about all this -- i am going through the jazz unit in my music appreciation class rn and with this new online teaching situation, i don't get the chance to listen to jazz WITH my students and it is really bumming me tf out. my class is at least 40% less enjoyable for me and for them because we don't have the communal listening experience.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:03 (two months ago) link

i used to play "journey..." as entry/class starting music all the time :( :( :(
i loved it when they would walk in and be like...what IS this?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:04 (two months ago) link

oh yeah! journey is also my go-to jazz record to play for people who i suspect haven't heard it before - it never fails!

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:16 (two months ago) link

La Lachera, my music appreciation club has had a couple of online meetings using a combination of Zoom and an app called Jqbx that works with spotify. The drawback is that all users have to have spotify premium. It's worked pretty well so far though.

Torei, Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:57 (two months ago) link

Ugh, La Lechera, apologies for spelling.

Torei, Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:57 (two months ago) link

my go-to jazz record to play for people who i suspect haven't heard it before

who haven't heard jazz before ?

budo jeru, Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:19 (two months ago) link

haha, no, i mean people i know who haven't heard alice coltrane before.

i guess that kind of sounds stupid and needs some unpacking! i think Journey is a really rare combination of strange, accessible, and good, so much so that if someone who likes music hasn't heard it i assume they'll love it. and they almost always do, it seems! it's like the undefeated champion

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:27 (two months ago) link

Thanks for the tip! Wish I could use it but my students aren’t all Spotify subscribers and this is a college class. I can’t ask them to do anything extra at this point :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 24 April 2020 00:08 (two months ago) link

Also lots of people haven’t ever really heard jazz before — it’s not absurd!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 24 April 2020 00:09 (two months ago) link

I think lots of people have heard jazz but haven't listened to jazz, which is a different thing altogether.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 24 April 2020 07:56 (two months ago) link

Wow! Thanks for the Sarathy Korwar heads up.

Here's another version by Matthew Halsall & The Gondwana Orchestra

https://matthewhalsall.bandcamp.com/track/journey-in-satchidananda

stirmonster, Friday, 24 April 2020 11:37 (two months ago) link

yeah that one is great ... !

tylerw, Friday, 24 April 2020 17:20 (two months ago) link

xp @ KM yeah i figured, was just being silly, sorry.

a really rare combination of strange, accessible, and good

i agree !

budo jeru, Sunday, 26 April 2020 00:38 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

beautiful 15 minute documentary from 1970

Alice Coltrane Black Journal segment

"The 16mm color film print is a short documentary made for a segment of National Education Television's Black Journal television program. The segment focuses on the life of Alice Coltrane and her children in the wake of the death of her husband, famed jazz magician John Coltrane. This film was shot sometime during 1970; three years after the death of John Coltrane."

Brad C., Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:59 (one month ago) link

yo, thanks for this!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:45 (one month ago) link

this is incredible

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:48 (one month ago) link

it really is. amazing, thanks for sharing. that shot at the end of her waving goodbye in the yard with her kids, so beautiful.

does anyone know what she's referring to at the very end of the interview, about being within an inch of her death?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:04 (one month ago) link

yessssss, goddamn, this should be a two-hour doc!

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:04 (one month ago) link

xp she is probably referring to this period:

In quick succession, Alice suffered the loss of both her husband and her half brother Ernest. Her account of her spiritual awakening between 1968 and 1970 in her self-published tract, Monument Eternal, is harrowing: her weight plunged from 118 to 95 pounds, and her family worried for her well-being. In her telling, her weight loss was not the result of grief and depression but due to extreme austerities undertaken for spiritual advancement. It leads to detached remembrances, like: “During an excruciating test to withstand heat, my right hand succumbed to a third-degree burn. After watching the flesh fall away and the nails turn black, it was all I could do to wrap the remaining flesh in a linen cloth.”

The rainbow-covered booklet makes no mention of her jazz music career, her husband, or her travels to India. Instead, she matter-of-factly details making a doctor recoil in horror at the sight of her blackened flesh, what occurs when one experiences supreme consciousness, the nuances of various astral planes, her ability to hear trees sing, and scaring the family dog with her astral projections. Amid this, her family feared for her sanity: “My relatives became extremely worried about my mental and physical health. Therefore they arranged for my return to their home for ‘care and rest.’” Later she adds: “Communicating with people was found to be like suffering judgment. In fact, it was almost impossible for me to dwell upon earthly matters, and equally impossible for me to bring the mind down to mundane thoughts and general conversations.”

(from https://pitchfork.com/features/from-the-pitchfork-review/10009-transfiguration-and-transcendence-the-music-of-alice-coltrane/)

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:06 (one month ago) link

alice was WAAAAAAAAY out there

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:08 (one month ago) link

xp thanks tyler!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:11 (one month ago) link

love the faces on the kids when pharoah is going wild

i wonder if there's a full concert tape somewhere

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:24 (one month ago) link

man if they had footage of that entire show, it'd be on the level of Aretha's Amazing Grace concert doc ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 18:53 (one month ago) link

so great, thanks

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:20 (one month ago) link

SOOOOO GOOD!

Great taste in cars too.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 21:19 (one month ago) link

Amazing. I met Rashied Ali a couple of times in the ‘90s and he *looks exactly the same in the film*!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 22:25 (one month ago) link

Bless the Coltranes.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 22:25 (one month ago) link

are there any available recordings of this two-bassist lineup?

also, the footage of her harp improv is :O

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 22:26 (one month ago) link

might be mistaken, but I think McBee and Garrison are both on the Carnegie Hall 71 recording.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 22:32 (one month ago) link

xp bill wood AKA vishnu wood plays oud on "journey in satchidanda" but apart from that i don't know much about him or this lineup

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:21 (one month ago) link

nice doc! there's got to be more footage of that concert out there somewhere.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:49 (one month ago) link

CAPTION
This 16mm film is a documentary segment focusing on the life of Alice Coltrane and her children in the wake of the death of her husband, famed jazz magician John Coltrane.

:)

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:51 (one month ago) link

thanks for this, Brad.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:45 (one month ago) link

four weeks pass...

A photo I'd never seen before, of John and Alice in Japan:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbS0OuQXYAE_hQD.png

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 17:45 (two weeks ago) link

<3

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 17:51 (two weeks ago) link

Nice.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 17:56 (two weeks ago) link

right click save as

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 21:30 (two weeks ago) link

#goals

J. Sam, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 22:37 (two weeks ago) link

the perfect prescription

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 June 2020 03:21 (two weeks ago) link

Alice is great but I still wouldn’t mind that pill tbh

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 June 2020 03:31 (two weeks ago) link


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