Alice Coltrane - S/D

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she's probably my second or third favorite artist ever. i really don't like everything she's done, but i love even those albums of hers i don't like. here's a rundown of the albums of hers i own.

A Monastic Trio - this is the only album of hers i don't own, but i've heard it plenty of times and would recommend it.

Huntington Ashram Monastery: her second solo album. a sparse trio (her, ron carter and rashied ali). beautiful modal work. not as spacey, out or eastern as her later work. kind of a stepping stone album for me.

Ptah the El Daoud - beautiful. the three reissued Impulse albums (this, journey, and monastic trio) are sort of like companion pieces to me. all are amazingly beautiful, spiritual albums.

Journey in Satchidananda - definitely my favorite of all of her albums (and one of my favorite albums of all time). the addition of the tamboura, oud and bells really sets this album over the edge for me. and pharoah's playing is just amazing. i put this on for dinner parties and even though it's kinda out, after a few glasses of wine, we're all passed out on the floor in bliss.

Universal Consciousness - i'll be honest. i'm not the hugest fan of her string arrangements. some of the more tame stuff is alright, and maybe if i were a fan of stravinsky, i'd 'get' it more. her pieces with organ are pretty cool on this album. so half of this i like, and half i'm sorta ho hum on.

World Galaxy (aka Alice Coltrane With Strings) - for some reason, the strings on this album don't bother me as much. maybe they're playing tunes and themes and aren't just freaking the fuck out? the organ tracks (especially A Love Supreme) kick major ass. i just saw that movie The Guru the other night, so it's kinda funny hearing her swami talking about love before she plays a funky organ version of the song.

Lord of Lords - an all strings album. probably my least favorite out of everything she's done.

Eternity - i love this album. why? because she plays a Fender Rhodes. it's also a lot more rooted in blues and jazz than some of her prior albums that were all about free jazz and stravinsky. Om Supreme is such a beautiful song. (one of the only songs of hers that i know of that has lyrics in english). and is it coincidence that the day i decided to move from Chicago to SF i bought this record? the lyrics are "when i told you to come to California, you know i'd meet you in California." it was one of those moments in my life that truely made sense. oh yeah, and "Los Caballos" has her organ soloing over a latin jazz rhythm?!

Radha-Krsna Nama Sankirtana - a very strange album. she was becoming a very strange lady fer shure. it's a Hare Krishna chant record, but the backing music is totally upbeat organ playing that sounds like it's straight out of the church. a beautiful mixture of east & west spirituality.

Transcendence - just like Radha-Krsna, side B of this record is the Krishna chanting over church organ and clapping. i seriously listened to this side of the record every day for about 2 months. side A is more of her mellow string stuff. i hardly ever listen to that side.

Transfiguration - i only own one of these two records. i bought a white label test pressing of it, but it only had one disc. it's a trio of her on organ, supported by bass and drums. pretty neat little album. she loves the wammy bar on her organ. almost over uses it, but it's still pretty cool.

Illuminations - this is an album put out between Alice and Carlos Santana. it's from 74 and is pretty heavy fusion. good if you like fusion (i do).

Infinity - a record put out under John's name. it's a posthumous album where Alice added string arrangements to some of John's later freer pieces. given that i don't really like her string arrangements, i think this album is pretty suck. but the album cover is pretty rad

JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 7 July 2003 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Journey in Satchidananda This is extremely predictable coming from me, but I find the oud on this a little disappointing, compared to what I consider to be really great oud playing. I admit, I have very strict ideas about what good oud playing should sound like.

I like Pharoah Sanders playing here, especially on the title track. More restrained than usual, which I think is a plus, but not less expressive for it.

(This is the only AC album I've heard all the way through.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 7 July 2003 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Monastic Trio rulz

and what's the one where it's just her on organ and her son on drums for all of side 2? That one RULES

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link

No love for Stellar Regions?

ben welsh (benwelsh), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Alice Coltrane's 'Universal Conciousness'

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i saw that thread. just wanted to talk about the rest of her stuff.

julio, have you heard any of her other albums since that one?

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link

no but this thread is a good reminder (see the 'aske the ages' thread).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 07:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i saw someone post recently that they're glad everytime there's a resurgence in ILM's interest in jazz. it's probably the genre that i know the deepest, but i've been kinda bored of it lately. it's time to start other threads

(except for me it's bed time right now)

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

... a great artist, a pity she turned into such babbling pseudo-mystico-airhead.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

''Radha-Krsna Nama Sankirtana - a very strange album. she was becoming a very strange lady fer shure. it's a Hare Krishna chant record, but the backing music is totally upbeat organ playing that sounds like it's straight out of the church. a beautiful mixture of east & west spirituality.''

maybe turning into a ''babbling pseudo-mystico-airhead'' wasn't such a bad thing from what jason is saying above.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Buy "A Monastic Trio", it's very good, especially the bonus tracks on the CD re-issue

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i think i'll buy a record or two this afternoon.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

got a monastic trio yesterday- the second side (with alice on harp) was particurlarly wonderful. good to hear more jimmy garrison. he would be quite constant, providing backbone, i think (he did a solo on the last track) and alice and rashied would swirl around him.

dada is correct- the 4 extra tracks are good and pharoah makes a mark, to say the least (apart from the flute solo was inaudible but the liner notes say that). one of the extra tracks is a piano solo from alice and that is a fitting end.

bcz of this thread i got also got 'Ptah...' and 'journey...', which i plan to listen to tonight.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 10 July 2003 09:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Good choices Julio but I confess to finding "Eternity" far too woolly and new agey for my tastes

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
she loves the wammy bar on her organ. almost over uses it, but it's still pretty cool.

I don't know what a wammy bar is, but I think I know exactly what you are talking about, since I'm listening to Transfiguration (which I just bought). My favorite thing, I'm afraid, is simply the sound of the electric organ. Her playing seems too noodly for me a lot of the time. I kind of like this bass solo. (I seem to suddenly be receptive to bass solos lately. Very peculiar.)

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
just got universal consciousness, after listening to it and staring at it in my record store for two years. this shit rules. is journey TS better? it seems to get more mention around here...

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma? i know hes on it... what is a good comparison-point album?

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma?

yes

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

but with harp and minus Leon Thomas

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe ill yodel along.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

and i don't really like Universal Conciousness all that much and love Journey

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I do love his yodeling!

Tim Ellison, Monday, 21 June 2004 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Alice is recording a new album this year, with Ravi Coltrane on sax and I forget who on bass and drums. The only things of hers I currently own are Ptah and Illuminations, but I'm gonna have to get more, as I've been on a big Pharoah kick lately.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

is journey more like pharoah sanders' karma?

sorry but i don't think JtS is at all like karma!! karma builds to an enormous energy music freakout. there's no crescendo on JtS. it's much calmer and prettier and less "out" than either karma or universal consciousness. it's really similar to ptah the el daoud, actually, very eastern and exotic and slow and blissful.

my favorite alice coltrane albs are "world galaxy" (for reasons jason pointed out above) and definitely "the elements", which is actually a joe henderson + alice coltrane album.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

im really intrigued by world galaxy, i think. is it only a JPN impulse release on cd?

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

pretty sure. i paid about $28- for mine and i'm totally happy with that.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

and i don't know why "universal consciousness" is so popular, either. i've found it impenetrable.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the structure of hare krishna and sita ram, and the organ tone on most of it. i have only listened a few times, so i havent penetrated it either, to any great degree, but ill see how it goes after a few more listens.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

just got universal consciousness, after listening to it and staring at it in my record store for two years. this shit rules. is journey TS better? it seems to get more mention around here...

"Journey" is easier on the ear definitely. I love both albums.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Agree with Vahid re. the worthiness of paying $$$ for an import of WORLD GALAXY. "My Favorite Things" and the funky-as-sin version of "A Love Supreme" are the standouts but dear lord, check out those disorienting tape effects on "Galaxy Around Olodumare"! Strings have never sounded so alien.

The Sepia Tone reissues of the Warner albums are cheap and easy to find, though I'd only recommend ETERNITY (the latin psych trip of "Los Caballos" erases all notions of wooly new ageisms) and the live trio date, TRANSFIGURATION. I still consider Alice to be the only other who could match Larry Young's godliness on the organ.

doug watson (solid air), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

omigod. thank you guys for convincing me to get "journey in satchidananda". within 5 seconds, i was knocked on my ass by this album. now, 5 whole minutes in, im comatose with awesome-music-shock. i mean, im sure ill like universal consciousness almost as much eventually, but it is definitely not as immediate as this.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

definitely get joe henderson + alice coltrane's "the elements" then. it's like JiS, but a bit dubbier (there's more multitracking and tape delays and effects pedals), a bit darker, a bit more exotic, and there's beat poetry and shit too.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
Has anyone heard her new album, Translinear Light? Any good?

Jonathan (Jonathan), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link

wow. thanks for the heads up. AMG gave it a great review. it sounds like it's gonna be kind of a crazy record.

Vahid, i ended up picking up that Joe Henderson record and it sounded great, but i think i've just not been in a jazz mood lately and only listened to it twice :(

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, Alice & Ravi with Jeff Watts, James Genus, Charlie Haden, and Jack deJohnette. This is the first time I've been excited about a jazz record in awhile.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, it's all new Alice Coltrane material?!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG syndrums!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Just finished listening. It's all new Alice material except for some trads (American and Indian) and Crescent (the song).

The first half is okay...the syndrums aren't very noticeable, it's just sounds like tabla and those lower pitch-bendy Indian drums whose name I don't know. She does play some questionable synthesizer on a few songs, but the cool Wurlitzer playing on other songs makes up for it.

The second half picks up a lot. 'Leo' is like Interstellar Space except with Alice, Ravi, and deJohnette, sleigh bells and all. Crescent is really nice too, as are the two duets (Alice with Charlie Haden, whom I always love hearing, and Alice on organ with an Indian choir).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd like to hear this – her duet with haden on his "closeness" lp is great too

jones (actual), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Can't wait for this.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

The Japanese version of Translinear Light also contains a bonus track - a cover of A Love Supreme Pt. 1

And, concurrent with its release, Huntington Ashram Monastery and Lord of Lords are both out on CD (in Japan, that is)

Dr Benway (dr benway), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I just got Translinear Light and listened to it a couple times today. I think it's possibly the album of the year for me so far, al-out heavy and emotional. The first track actually sounds a bit like the Theatre of Eternal Music. I don't think I've heard organ playing like the playing on this album before, with all those pitch bends making it like guitar and sax solos. The saxes just cut through. I like the synth washes a lot myself.

The only thing I don't get is the need to end with a track of Sai bhajan chanting. I'd visit my parents' friends on weekends if I wanted to hear that. But, whatever, I guess it has meaning for her.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 29 November 2004 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
world galaxy is now my favorite by a good bit. the tape effects at the end of "my favorite things" are incredible. still have only heard PtED, JiS, UC, and WG (and actually a little bit of transcendence a few years ago) - i wanna hear LoL and AMT next.

impulse should try to get the rights to her entire back catalogue (or cut in the other labels a little)and put out a complete alice box. that would be a great release.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, "World Galaxy" is stunningly brilliant. Classic. "Galaxy in Turiya" is glorious.

Turangalila (Salvador), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Alice Coltrane is one of the few spouses that I can think of that has such a solid catalogue. But I stand by my declaration of Ptah as the BEST! (Though, in the interest of self-criticism, I'll be listening to the rest again now... Gorgeous, gorgeous jazz...)

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

so just to be clear, someone who really, really likes Journey in Satchidananda should get what next? Ptah? Monastic Trio?

Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Tyler Wilcox, definitely go for Ptah, The El Daoud. Mmm. "Blue Nile" is too lovely for words.

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

(Incidentally, isn't the intro to Journey in Satchidananda one of the *best album intros evah*? Mmm. That awesome bassline.)

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd say go with Ptah, but that's because, again, it's my favorite and I have trouble recommending, y'know, one of the other great albums if you don't already had that one.

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, the thing about some of the other great albums (e.g., UC, WG) is they're aiming toward a different sound. If you like the 'Ptah' and 'Journey In Satchidananda' aspects of Alice it doesn't necessarily follow that you'll like her other stuff.

I personally *prefer* her more mystical, string-laden music. I think it's absolutely beautiful and unique. In fact, the only song I really like on Transcendence is "Prema"---and it's mostly due to the beautiful string arrangement.

"Lord of Lords" also has some great pieces, like her rendition of Stravinsky's "Firebird," and the beautiful, joyous "Going Home."

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

cool, thanks for the info. the only other AC CD i have is the most recent one, which strikes me as more of a grab-bag of various styles. i've heard a couple songs from the more string-laden releases and dig that too. but "journey" is really knocking my socks off currently. can't quite believe i hadn't heard it up until a few months ago! it's got a really amazing, sustained groove throughout that i don't think i've heard anywhere else. and the more eastern instrumentation mixed with that harp mixed with pharoah sander...wow!

Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

oh wait, I did the original one, not this new one

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:23 (one month ago) link

lol

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:24 (one month ago) link

but you put out the original one, but now this there's this other one floating around that's similar. i see

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:24 (one month ago) link

yep that's correct, KM

man I am pissed abt this reissue remix nonsense, dammit Ravi

(that being said, I can see the logic in releasing both, but just this? c'mon)

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:25 (one month ago) link

that's a nice lineage on the new one but IMHO my MMF-5 turntable smokes any Technics esp with some generic AT cartridge

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:26 (one month ago) link

I was not aware that technics were known for their audio quality, thoight it was the durability/performance

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:30 (one month ago) link

I wonder if it's a situation where the extra sounds were originally dubbed directly to the "master cassette", which may have been lost, and all that's available in good quality is the original organ and vocal track.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:37 (one month ago) link

also a thought that crossed my mind.

in any case, it will hopefully lead to more people listening to alice coltrane. i am firmly of the belief that the more people there who listen to her music, the more bearable the world will be.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:17 (one month ago) link

good point

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:19 (one month ago) link

(points, both posts there really)

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:20 (one month ago) link

OK listening to the original now and, holy shit

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:55 (one month ago) link

Was just browsing the Dusty Groove site and apparently her final album, Translinear Light, is being reissued next month as part of a Japanese 60th anniversary Impulse! series. (I just bought CDs of Pharoah Sanders' Summun Bukmun Umyun and Live at the East, both of which have been out of print on CD forever — in fact, I don't think Live at the East was ever released on CD in the US.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:27 (one month ago) link

Slightly off topic, but thanks for the tip unperson. Grabbed a copy of Live at the East myself, sadly looks like I just missed out on Summun Bukmun Umyun.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:06 (one month ago) link

Weird that one's been OOP as they've 2-fer'd so many Pharoah albums that aren't as well regarded. Then again they remastered all that stuff louder than the 90s CDs so might be for the best.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:08 (one month ago) link

Sorry, also OT.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:09 (one month ago) link

yeah, thanks for those tips---hadn't heard of Translinear Light! Describe, please. I've only got the Luaka Bop comp, and Spiritual Eternal: The Complete Warner Brothers Studio Recordings double-CD, typically done up right by Real Gone.

dow, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:32 (one month ago) link

Translinear Light was released in 2004; Alice plays piano and organ (no harp as I recall) with two different rhythm sections: Charlie Haden and Jack DeJohnette on four tracks, James Genus and Jeff "Tain" Watts on three others. Ravi Coltrane plays tenor and soprano sax on about half the album, and his brother Oran plays alto sax on one track. It's good, but always felt a little slight to me, despite having 11 tracks and running 73 minutes.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:44 (one month ago) link

Oh yeah, that sounds like some of the Warner Brothers double-disc collection: works better there than it would as a stand-alone.

dow, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:15 (one month ago) link

dow you need to listen to her Impulse! records (start with Ptah, the El Daoud maybe). I'm sure some people around here would disagree, possibly vehemently, but IMHO you've essentially got the weakest parts of her catalogue.

FTR, I do like the Luaka Bop/Turiya stuff, but I've never recovered from my Indian American partner thinking it was extremely bemusing that I was intently listening to the kinds of songs she was forced to listen to and sing at religious functions as a kid (i.e., imagine if a bunch of hipsters all got into the music you sang in Xian youth group, deeming simplistic songs about Jesus transcendent and sublime lol). Her reaction didn't ruin it for me, but I def have more appreciation for her 1968-72 albums than anything after.

im dum (rob), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:55 (one month ago) link

another classic entry point is Journey in Satchidananda. From the very first notes, it dives deep into her warmest music

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:05 (one month ago) link

that's my usual suggested entry point too. Not sure why I switched to Ptah except that I somewhat randomly heard "Turiya and Ramakrishna" a couple days ago, and I both knew every note and found it immensely moving

im dum (rob), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:09 (one month ago) link

And don't miss The Elements with Joe Henderson. Proper fire music.

burnt hombre (stevie), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:09 (one month ago) link

yeah every home should have a copy of journey

brimstead, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:09 (one month ago) link

otm. When pressed I tend to say that's my favourite album (of all time, not just AC), though I also stammer, hem and haw while doing so because I hate answering that question

im dum (rob), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:11 (one month ago) link

PROSECUTOR: rob, i must press on this. answer this once and for all: what is your favorite album...
*rob gulps*
PROSECUTOR: ...OF ALL TIME?!
DEFENSE ATTORNEY: objection, your honor! you know the defendant hates answering that question.
JUDGE: overruled.
*rob hems and haws*
PROSECUTOR: take all the time you need, rob, but i think we both know the answer here
ROB: J-j--j-jo-
PROSECUTOR's SHADOW ...say it....
DEFENSE ATTORNEY: don't follow the putrid, yellow light! follow the clear light!
ROB: J-ourney to Satchidananda
DEFENSE ATTORNEY: *slams table with fist*
JUDGE: false. Journey IN Satchidananda
*trap door to hell opens underneath rob*

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:53 (one month ago) link

lmaoooo

but Your Honor, with all due respect, I implore you to check the name of track 6 on the Ecstatic Music compilation and then go fuck yourself

im dum (rob), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:01 (one month ago) link

JUDGE: i told you i can't read, goddammit! burn in hell!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:15 (one month ago) link

activist judges aside, I do like that the title is IN not TO and wonder if that's an error on the Ecstatic comp

trap door to hell opens underneath (rob), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:18 (one month ago) link

no, i think that's the title on the original release, Glorious Chants! i think it's a purposeful distinction

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:21 (one month ago) link

interesting, thanks!

trap door to hell opens underneath (rob), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:29 (one month ago) link

Woah, a diff take:
I just got Translinear Light and listened to it a couple times today. I think it's possibly the album of the year for me so far, al-out heavy and emotional. The first track actually sounds a bit like the Theatre of Eternal Music. I don't think I've heard organ playing like the playing on this album before, with all those pitch bends making it like guitar and sax solos. The saxes just cut through. I like the synth washes a lot myself.

The only thing I don't get is the need to end with a track of Sai bhajan chanting. I'd visit my parents' friends on weekends if I wanted to hear that. But, whatever, I guess it has meaning for her.

― sund4r subramanian (sund4r), Sunday, November 28, 2004 And Dr. Benway said the Japanese edition incl. cover of "A Love Supreme Pt.1."

dow, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:47 (one month ago) link

I like Transliner Light more than any of the Warner releases fwiw

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:47 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

got my ship notification for the new reissue this morning. hells yes.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Thursday, 15 July 2021 15:39 (one week ago) link

is Ptah ever going to get reissued?

akm, Thursday, 15 July 2021 20:08 (one week ago) link

Ptah is maybe #1 on my wishlist of reissues, but I'd heard that the (tape) master was in that universal fire which is why it hasn't been reissued with others. I would love to be wrong about that though!

city worker, Thursday, 15 July 2021 20:50 (one week ago) link

I'd be fine with a digital master or copy frankly, just get it out there

akm, Saturday, 17 July 2021 22:38 (one week ago) link

I bought a non-boot copy of Ptah on a CD issued by Impulse this year.

bamcquern, Sunday, 18 July 2021 01:40 (one week ago) link

Yeah, Ptah is not hard to come by. Amazon has it in stock right now.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 July 2021 01:51 (one week ago) link

well, I meant on vinyl since I stopped buying CDs. I have it digitally and have forever.

akm, Sunday, 18 July 2021 16:20 (one week ago) link

Ironic username / post from leading manufacturer of DACs.

https://www.akm.com/us/en/products/audio/audio-dac/

Noel Emits, Sunday, 18 July 2021 16:30 (one week ago) link

My latest Stereogum column is up. Here's what I had to say about this new/old Alice album:

In the late ’80s, the LA-based publisher Amok Books put out the Amok Assault Video, a compilation of racist old cartoons, news stories about cattle mutilations, footage of an animal control officer being attacked by a dog, R. Budd Dwyer’s suicide on live TV, a guy talking about the occult messaging behind She-Ra, and a lot more. It began with a segment from Eternity’s Pillar, Alice Coltrane’s public access cable TV show which she filmed at her California ashram. She wasn’t doing anything particularly bizarre; she was just discussing her beliefs and offering a metaphysical lecture to the viewer. But that was how Coltrane’s mystical/spiritual side was seen for years, by those who were aware of it at all: as a kind of weird joke for hip underground types to smirk at. These days, of course, her reputation has been thoroughly rehabilitated. Almost her entire catalog is back in print in one form or another, including the devotional music she recorded in the ’80s and ’90s and sold at the ashram and through a few New Age bookstores. Tracks from three of those releases (1987’s Divine Songs, 1990’s Infinite Chants, and 1995’s Glorious Chants) were reissued on a Luaka Bop compilation in 2017. But her first devotional release, 1982’s Turiya Sings, has always been the hardest to find. It was only ever available on cassette, except for a bootleg German CD. Which is too bad, because it’s a great record. Her synth and Wurlitzer organ are combined with harp and strings, and she sings in Sanskrit, but with a gospel-ish flavor. Now, Turiya Sings has been reissued… sort of. Coltrane’s son Ravi has found tapes of the basic tracks, before the strings and synthesizers were added, and released it. It’s nice; it has an intimate feel, like you’re in her house and she’s playing these songs just for you. Her voice is soft and maternal, and the organ swells all around. But this isn’t the finished product. After John Coltrane died, Alice released Infinity, an album on which she took recordings by his quartet and filled out the arrangements with strings, new keyboard solos, and in some cases overdubbed bass, replacing Jimmy Garrison with Charlie Haden. A lot of people bitched about the strings, but Coltrane herself responded, “‘Were you there? Did you hear [John’s] commentary and what he had to say?’ … We had a conversation about every detail; [John] was showing me how the piece could include other sounds, blends, tonalities and resonances such as strings.” Similarly, the strings and synths were key to Turiya Sings’ power, sending the music into wild otherworldly realms, and bringing it back down to earth this way feels a little like an attempt to sand down Alice Coltrane’s edges, so she can be “appreciated” instead of respected for what she was: a sonic visionary who made music in service of the divine.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 21:38 (five days ago) link

Amen. You hit the nail on the head unperson.

Skrot Montague, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 22:01 (five days ago) link

Wow, good stuff.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 22:04 (five days ago) link

Beautifully put. But as a person unused to dealing with music of AC’s calibre, I can say that Kirtan is allowing me into its heart and I am building out from there. So in that way it’s broadening her reach.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 22:26 (five days ago) link

Boom!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 01:07 (four days ago) link

yep that's great.

visiting, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 01:12 (four days ago) link

great job unperson! especially appreciate the quotes/context on the backend of the paragraph.

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:00 (four days ago) link

it's like, regardless of what the end product is and whether it's more intimate or revealing or anything else, there's just the fact that it's not what she recorded. it doesn't make it better or worse or anything, it's just important to know. was irritated tor read the pfork review and see that it didn't even come up

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:01 (four days ago) link

like it let it be...naked came out without the context that before that it was let it be

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:02 (four days ago) link

Just read your review, Phil! Very nicely put, and nice to see it written down given how much it's just been taken at face value.

raven, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 13:22 (four days ago) link


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