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With the odd notable exception like 'American Beauty', 'Anthem of the Sun' and a few other studio albums, the Grateful Dead have always been about live performance. It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense. And their live albums contain some extraordinary music (as well as some dodgier moments).

But there's just so much of it out there. By my reckoning they released eight regular live albums during the life of the band, but since then the floodgates have opened. There are now 29 Dick's Picks releases, most of them triple CDs, and about a dozen other albums like One/Two From The Vaults, Ladies & Gentlemen, Hundred Year Hall, The Phil Zone etc.

So, what have you heard and what do you like? Are there particular periods (the 80s?) that are no-go areas? Is it only worth bothering with stuff from 68-71?

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

You've obviously got to start with 'Live Dead'. I listened to it again over the weekend, and it still sounds extraordinary. There may be better versions of 'Dark Star' out there, but as the first one I heard it'll always be the definitive one for me.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

yes can we have some ans here. I need to know what to look out for!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been piling through a lot of my Dead live Cds/box sets over the last couple of weeks, but I still feel like I'm only scratching the surface. I've got several thoughts about it, but for the moment I'll just say:
1) I've not heard a version of 'Dark Star' that isn't awesome.
2) The quality of the version of a song bears no relation to how good the jamming is going to be after it (i.e. ignore the ropey vocals, there's some good stuff coming along in a minute).
3) Brent Mydland. Oh dear.
4) Donna Godchaux. Oh dear, oh dear.
5) They were something fucking special around 68-71. I feel like trying to pick up every single thing that's been released from this period.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

search: the dead from 1973-74. totally at the top of their game during this period.

chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Reckoning -- The traditional "Live" album for LP release. Quiet, crisp performances. No flubs, all first rate versions, and a pleasure to listen to throughout. 9.6

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it? 9.4

Nightfall of Diamonds -- Winterland, 10/10/89 -- Great sound; a bit noodley in places, but right nice. 8.6

Dick's Picks #8 -- Harpur College, 5/02/70 -- Three-Quarters of this is impeccable; good form, nice song selection - one disc acoustic, one disc electric, and one disc rave-ups (i don't much care for their R&B covers like "Dancing in the Streets" and "It's A Man's Man's Man's World"). 8.5

Ladies & Gentleman... The Grateful Dead -- Filmore East, April 1971 -- A good listen, but it delves a bit too much into the Helter Skelter for strict listening. Works better as background -- but is noteworthy for the block of Pigpen's blues numbers. 7.8

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Harpur College

my alma mater! (aka "the liberal arts college of SUNY Binghamton")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard a good bit of Dead over the years, and own a fair amount of albums. I second Dick's Pick's Four... the best album I've heard from them. Live/Dead is of course essential, and I think Europe '72 is as well. It was the first Dead record I bought. It's from a bunch of shows from their Europe '72 tour which is among their very best tours (many would say there best. It's there last tour with Pigpen and their first with Keith). It contains little jamming (disk two has some) and was mainly released because the songs on there had yet to be put to vinyl. It was also a bit touched up in the studio, I believe. I know they recently released another cd from that tour, as well as an expanded Europe '72, though I don't think I've heard either, I believe they're quite good as well.

One From the Vault is strong, too. It's from '75, and was from one of two shows celebrating the release of Blues for Allah. It contains every song from that album (in a better version)--including the title track which is, unfortunately, a total dud, IMO (though I'm hardly alone). The Dead didn't tour in '75 or '76, but this is a strong performance though not essential.

I agree on 68-71 being strong. But so is the Europe '72 tour - 74.Dick's Pick's 12 features the quite famous "Mind Left Body" jam as well as the glorious return of "China Cat Sunflower" to their catalogue.

Pretty much all of '77 is great. 5-8-77 Cornell is their most frequently bootlegged show, and thus essential, though not their best performance. It shouldn't be hard to find. '78 is good too, and then they hit a lull.

I believe it's '83 that I've heard good things about, but I've never taken the time to investigate. '78 was the last time they released a studio album until '87, so I kind of avoid it. In '87 bounced back from a heroin-induced coma, and the band was strong again so I'd seek out some stuff from this era too.

Hope this helped a little. I also have to highly recommend the Jerry Garcia Band (which is mostly just a cover band) release Don't Let Go from '75 with Keith on acoustic piano. It's a very tight, mellow session. With only one guitar in there, you can really hear how good of a guitarist Jerry was when he was on.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The other thing about '77 is that it's when they became really, really funky. That's why it's so popular. And as usual, when they were on--which was often that year--they were really on. Many would say it's their best year, and I agree it's definitely one of them.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

''Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).''

will do

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

apologies for the faulty spacing there...

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it?

You can still get any of the Dick's Picks from the Dead's own site ( DP4 is $21 plus postage.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

No shit? I've been looking for a "gift" copy for years -- Thanks, JB.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

The new Dick's Picks 39 is a six-disc set of two 1977 shows.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoops, that's 29.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

The thing with a lot of live Dead stuff is that even the better gigs have a lot of average stuff on them, but they're worth hearing for the moments where the inspiration hits and they really take off.

So I don't know why they don't release more albums that take stuff from a variety of performances (and eras), cherry-picking the really juicy tracks. 'The Phil Zone' is a good example of this - it's got a great range of stuff, even some not-bad performances from the late 80s. And it's got an absolutely monster version of 'Hard to Handle', which not only rocks like a bastard, it's from an audience tape so you can hear everybody going mental as they crank it up.

(I also wish you could hear more audience on a lot of the Dick's Picks. They capture the music well, but not always the whole occasion. OK, I know they're mostly taken from the mixing desk so maybe that's not possible.)

Aaron or chaki - could you recommend any good Dick's Picks from 73-4 or 77?

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been meaning to contribute to this thread, but I wanted to wait for a free moment to audition a bunch of my stuff again. One good thing this thread has done is get me to finally listen to the package of Dick's Picks I got a couple months ago but hadn't listened to yet (well, I threw them when I got them but wasn't able to listen as closely as I'd like): 22 and 26. So far, 26 sounds great! A bunch of rare live Aoxomoxoa songs!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

#4 and #8 are my favorites (though i kinda stopped paying attention after 16 or so - not for lack of interest but lack of cash)

search GRAYFOLDED - Oswald's "plundering" of over 100 versions of Dark Star from 69-95. Essential drone

Anthem of the Sun and Live/Dead are pretty much perfect legit albums btw

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 July 2003 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I was thinking of getting 26, Mr D. The track listing looks very promising, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.

And I've just looked at the tracks for 22, that also looks tempting. I listened to Two From The Vaults over the weekend, from the same year (and with a similar set). There's something about the sound of the band/Garcia's guitar from that time (68/69). I can only describe it as having a lot more bite.

Completely agree with you roger about Live/Dead - that's the benchmark for me, both the version of Dark Star and the album as a whole.

I was surprised the first time I heard Grayfolded how 'ordinary' a lot of it sounded i.e. not ordinary as such but just like a great extended version of Dark Star, the first CD at least. The vocal 'swooshes' and 'folds' sound good though.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 7 July 2003 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link


James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 10 July 2003 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link


James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Revive, please.

Just listening to vol 12's lovely version of China Cat Sunflower, as mentioned above by Aaron M.

Any new opinions?

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I really like #16. I feel like the only Dead I ever buy is stuff from 68-70. I just saw #4 at a store and it looks great, after reading this I've decided I need it. Hundred Year Hall is a great set and I enjoy a lot more than the Europe 72 album, which I think sounds kind of neutered. There is a lot of inspired jamming and an absolutely beautiful Pigpen vocal on "Two Souls in Communion." I haven't listened to it in years, though, since my copy was stolen. I have a hard time buying Grateful Dead discs sometimes, although I have no problem listening to them.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Closing of Winterland looks promising.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
the dvd? it's fucking awesome! Possibly my favorite music DVD ever!

i'm too tired to elaborate, but if you consider that Neil Young has Candian citizenship, and if you exclude the American contingent of Fleetwood Mac at their absolute peak, The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time.

Trux and the Drive By Truckers are tied for me personally, but we're looking through history's lens here, people. The Dead. the fucking DEAD!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I spent last weekend listening to Ladies and Gentlemen... the Grateful Dead, that 4cd set that Arista put out a couple years back. Fucking PRIME '71 era shit. Absolutely G=god-like. Rog, you gotta get that one if ya don't have it...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, I really want to see this..

I do have to admit, I didn't get that excited about Closing of Winterland though. THen again, I watched it at like 3 in the morning a couple months ago when I was pretty wiped out. I'll give it another go.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm a ridiculous Godchaux apologist, FWIW.

haven't tracked down that Arista set - 71, eh? I'm more a 72-77 kinda guy, but will check it out - thanks!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, a 72-77 guy! I'm impressed. I'm still trying to get with the Godchaux era. I think it will come to me in due time. Do you have that One From the Vault? That one's pretty good, as I recall.

Yeah, the Ladies and Gentlemen thing is '71 but it's pretty song-oriented. Sort of midway between the psychedelic blow-outs and the Europe '72 stuff. It's a nice, pleasant listen. GREAT version of "Bird Song".

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:42 (sixteen years ago) link

im a 73 guy and yah the new dvd is great!!

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

ok, fuck it, Chaki I trust you.. I will watch it again!! It just kind of seemed goofy to me. With the whole dude riding in on a joint at the beginning of the concert. Like, you almost want to shake Bill Graham and the Dead and say, "the 60's are OVER!! Didn't you guys watch 'gimme shelter'??" Plus, the Godchaux. And "Fire on the Mountain" goes on entirely too long. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Dead, don't get me wrong, but that 'FOTM' just goes on too long, sorry. But I will check it out again, as I said...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm.. I just started watching it again, midway through the set. You know what? This version of "Friend of the Devil" is really kind of beautiful! Even Donna is kind of endearing right here! Mea culpa.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:45 (sixteen years ago) link

"Even Donna" - wtf?

Donna was probably just as proficient a musician as Phil Lesh (making her twice as proficient as Bob Weir) and an all around great, great vocalist. Her live performances were hit and miss due to lack of proper monitor support, everyone knows that.

She never gets a fair shake. It's not like she was Linda McCartney fer chrissakes.

The Godchauxes broght so much life (not to mention a a very vital jazz-informed musical eloquence) to The Dead. I love Pigpen and Mydland as much as the nxt guy, but the 70s are where it's AT because of Keith and Donna!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Disk one of Vol. 23 rules. I have to admit, though, that the "China Cat Sunflower" / "I Know You Rider" medley gets sooo tiresome after listening to Dick's Picks.

Rocking the Rhein is good stuff as well.

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

the "Dark Star" on Rockin' the Rhein is eyeball-melting

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought Dick's Picks 22 on a fleeting whim a few days ago.
I'm a little regretful of it now.
Feb '68 show at a Lake Tahoe bowling alley. Vocals are rarely audible (which I guess isn't always a bad thing, har har).
Now I'm wanting Rockin the Rhein.
I think I need a break from the Dead.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I just listened to Reckoning this past Friday night. Always a treat to pull that one out.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

'Two From the Vault' is's mastered or mixed really well for headphones. And at the end of 'Morning Dew' the house pulls the electricity from them, great moment.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

"It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense."

Au contraire. Au contraire.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

"The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time."

i take umbrage with this comment.
and so would CCR.

me rawk.
you snow.

eedd, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Regarding my last post, in case it's not clear, I mean to say that they SUCK LIVE. I don't get it.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Blues for Allah is the best thing they ever did, according to me

Help/Slip/Frank rules

Jackson, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Donna's "soulful" scream at the end of "Scarlet Begonias" on Dick's Picks 7 is the most out-of-key singing I've heard on an officially released record.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link

apparently there's a letter to the editor in the new Arthur from me regarding The Dead, but i haven't seen it. i can't get it here

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
HELP - I'm visiting a well-stocked Deadhead (over 300 shows) who has kindly offered to let me borrow whatever I want from his stash - any suggestions as to what I shld look out for - keep in mind that I generally prefer Dead Stuff w/ LOTS of guitar solos, the freakier the better, and am less concerned abt 'songs' per se

Thank You

Uncle John, Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just got this Jerry Garcia Band 3-CD Kean College set from 1980 that Rhino put out last fall. S'good! I'm just a dabbler in the Dead, but this is close to perfect -- nice sparse 4-piece, warmly recorded, the grooves don't overwhelm the songs and vice-versa -- I mean, the grooves are songlike, and the songs are groovelike. And maybe because he doesn't have to work to make himself heard, Jerry's playing is even more loose and gentle than usual. The solos are like barstool conversations. I think I'm going to be listening to this a lot.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 9 January 2005 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link

yah that shit kicks ass

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...
May check out that Jerry band thing. Has anyone heard the No. 29 6CD thing from '77? Curious about that as well.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

One more chance at an answer re No. 29. I orderd the Jerry Band thing yesterday.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

(in re: to the discussion above about wonky mixes, etc)

tylerw, Thursday, 7 May 2020 22:45 (eleven months ago) link

Apparently there's a real dearth of good quality 1970 shows in the vault, which is why they jumped ahead for this '71 Capitol Theatre show.

IMO the whole thing about lack of '70s shows in the vault is overstated. There IS stuff there. Granted not always in the greatest quality or full shows, but some do exist. Enough to fill 2 CDs surely.

Almost certainly, there are a handful more outtakes/alternative mixes in the can that haven't seen release from 1970 as well than what's been officially (Though, in both cases maybe more from the American Beauty era).

I think the reason that '71 show was picked had more to do with it being a full pristine 16-track recorded show (from the run that would become the '71 Grateful Dead/Skullfuck album) than anything.

Personally, I would have rather seen a two bonuses disks of assorted 1970 live rarities, outtakes, what have you, but given the heavy live focus that GDP has had on recent reissues, that was just not going to be the case.

gregorianpants, Friday, 8 May 2020 05:40 (eleven months ago) link

Oh I don't think you are wrong, I'm just going with the somewhat official line about the lack of '70s shows. I have no doubt they could compile something much better, but they seem to be really all in on the full shows being packaged with these reissues.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 May 2020 13:54 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

One of the good things about lockdown is that I've been able to get through the extensive live catalogue like never before. I'll soon be racking up a Gladwellian 10,000 hours expertise...

I've finally pushed past '72, and I'm really coming round to see the virtues of '77.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 31 May 2020 23:04 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

feeling like more of a deadhead than ever these days. must be the summer.

dick’s pick’s 12 (June 26 & 28, 1974, providence & Boston) is a new discovery for me. This Spanish Jam is sick!!

brimstead, Friday, 7 August 2020 03:18 (eight months ago) link

Reading through this thread like YES GIMME MORE
Is there a definitive book/bio for a relative noob?

incapacitant hairdresser society (rizzx), Friday, 7 August 2020 19:22 (eight months ago) link

Having trouble setting up some kind of listening plan here too. Tips are surely welcome

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Friday, 7 August 2020 19:26 (eight months ago) link

A Long Strange Trip By Dennis McNally may be deifinitive.

Searching For Th eSound by Phil Lesh was quite good
So was Bill Kreuitzmann's memopir but you might want to be better versed when you read that, not sure how important taht is.

Could do with a new take on the Deadhead's tape comapnion vol 1 now that the full gigs are avaialble and more of tehm.
THought that was good when most of the sets available seemed to be trading incomplete and Dick's Picks hadn't been set up fully yet.
Could be taht something like that is already around? But chronological layout is pretty important I think.

Stevolende, Friday, 7 August 2020 19:28 (eight months ago) link

yes thanks a lot, just ordered Long Strange Trip

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Friday, 7 August 2020 20:16 (eight months ago) link

Having trouble setting up some kind of listening plan here too. Tips are surely welcome

Help is on the way! Because I'm a detail-oriented type, whenever I decide to explore the discography of an artist I like but never got around, I tend to make a "syllabus": read a biography, listen to the records and any live bootlegs as I go, read contemporary press. Anyway, when I got into the Dead a few years ago, I did the same with Long Strange Trip.

Here's a link to a Google doc that goes chapter by chapter. It's by no means complete--I got bored with "prepping" by 1972--and I don't remember my criterion for choosing shows, and they are all obvious choices I'm sure. Let me know if it is any use--after all that research, I don't remember if I ever managed to make my way through the shows, ha.

blatherskite, Monday, 10 August 2020 13:36 (eight months ago) link

Hey thanks! I'm kinda doing that now, watched the Long Strange Trip doc and ordered the McNally book. So i'm checking out all threads, reading and listening all day long (as much as possible) don't know why exactly i'm obsessing over them right now. Doesn;t seem important to know either. I'm just living in the moment and enjoying the ride

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 08:47 (eight months ago) link

the mcnally book is really good

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 14:13 (eight months ago) link

Also worth reading:

This is All a Dream We Dreamed: An Oral History of the Grateful Dead - Blair Jackson & David Gans (perfect companion to the McNally book, with a wide range of sources quoted/consulted)
Fare Thee Well - Joel Selvin with Pamela Turley ( interesting, sometimes dispiriting account of what happened to the Dead after Garcia's death)
Growing Up Dead - Peter Conners (memoir of a teenage deadhead, the best book on the subculture)

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 14:30 (eight months ago) link

That Selvin book is really key for learning more about where the Dead went after Jerry die, but it's a depressing read. Phil and his wife look pretty awful.

I recently read both Phil's and Billy's books, which are good for different reasons. I liked reading about Phil's classical music background and his take on the music, while Billy's is a much lighter take and it sounds just like you are sitting next to him at the bar listening to him spin tales.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:02 (eight months ago) link

"after Jerry died"

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:03 (eight months ago) link

One from the Vault is tight, enjoying this one a lot. Amazing opening with Help on the Way/Slipknot/Franklin

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:29 (eight months ago) link

5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR - China Cat Sunflower > Rider. Gorgeous version!!

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Saturday, 15 August 2020 08:16 (eight months ago) link

Don't forget to the get the roadies perspective as I really liked the two books by Steve Parrish and Rock Scully. Add those other books and you get almost a Roshomon view into the Dead. Don't know that there is another rock band that is covered in quite the same way as in some ways there is less of a distance to what was actually going on in the day to day.

They all end up sad as I think in the end you realize, it did not have to end the way it did for Garcia. In many ways, he is a prime example of being a prisoner of his own success.

earlnash, Saturday, 15 August 2020 09:04 (eight months ago) link

Thinking about it, I would say the early NY punk scene has a similar view, as there are 4-5 books with different angles on same story too. I don't quite get the same thing from say the Beatles or Elvis or Led Zep books - there seems to be a distance where the Dead books are often more oral history.

earlnash, Saturday, 15 August 2020 09:07 (eight months ago) link

The Bill Graham book is also another one that has a unique view on the Dead as they did so many big shows together.

earlnash, Saturday, 15 August 2020 10:30 (eight months ago) link

Playing in the Band, Hec Edmundson Pavillion, Seattle 5/21/74 - Waaaayooo terrific freak out in first quarter of the friggin JAM XXXL

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Saturday, 15 August 2020 10:58 (eight months ago) link

^Hell yeah, that was the longest PITB they ever played, and I believe the longest performance of any single song

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 August 2020 15:12 (eight months ago) link

Dark Star 5/11/72 is arguably a bit longer if you consider a few minutes of "Drums" in the middle part of Dark Star

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 August 2020 15:15 (eight months ago) link

Dick's Picks 12 is real good!

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 05:57 (eight months ago) link

Really digging the Closing of Winterland set, slow, weird bar band jam version of Friend of the Devil. Great Scar/Fire, haven't heard the Dark Stars yet.

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Sunday, 23 August 2020 19:02 (seven months ago) link

Yeah 12 is awes! Love the “Spanish jam” on that one.

brimstead, Sunday, 23 August 2020 19:03 (seven months ago) link

Wow the Rockin' the Rhein Dark Stars are a huuuuge trip, I can see why this would be a perfect gateway for a noise head. The end of part I just rips my ears off.

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:13 (seven months ago) link

that's one of my favorites

global tetrahedron, Monday, 24 August 2020 19:19 (seven months ago) link

This Sugar Magnolia is also fiery blast of FUN. Bill's drumming is especially great here imo

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:54 (seven months ago) link

amazing Morning Dew, such a clear tone on Jerry's voice

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 31 August 2020 10:25 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...
Breaking News on Dick's Picks Volume 38
With the excitement we're all feeling about the Grateful Dead's 2021 Dave's Picks subscriptions, focusing so far only on the first of the year, Vol. 37 from 4/15/78 in Williamsburg, VA, we've been keeping Vol. 38 under wraps so as not to overwhelm you with too much great news at once. Now, though, the time has come to reveal DAVE'S PICKS VOL. 38: the magnificent complete show from 9/8/73 at Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, NY. This is a show that has been a long time coming in the Dead's archival release series. It, and the previous night, was the first run of live shows the Dead played after spending most of the previous month at the Plant Studio in Sausalito, CA, recording WAKE OF THE FLOOD. As soon as they were done mixing their new record, the Dead hit the road for the first leg of the Fall Tour of 1973 with a pair of sold out shows at the home of the New York Islanders.
When I first started working for the Grateful Dead in 1999, and was fortunate to work alongside Dick Latvala, who became my friend and mentor, I was turned on to 9/8/73 by Dick. He spoke so eloquently of this terrific show, certain that it would be released on CD some day as part of the Dick's Picks series. In Dick's own words, during a rundown of his thoughts on 1973 Grateful Dead, he said "That takes us up to the September run. Well right away 9/8/73 sticks out begging for attention. Even the night before (9/7/73) had fairly thrilling versions of "TLEO,""Jack Straw,""PITB," "WRS->Let it Grow." There is not a weak moment from "Truckin'" through the ending tune "Sugar Magnolia." Even as good as this night must sound, the following night things really explode. I really can't put my finger on it because from the songlist, there is nothing apparently compelling. Well, you guys will soon find out what I mean, since I intend to release this one whenever the time is right." For more than 20 years, I've listened to this show many times and have thought the exact same thing: every moment is exceptional. When you're looking for an example of the Grateful Dead when they were fully "on," firing on all cylinders, this is the one to check out. Now, coming in 2021, we're thrilled to make this show, and Dick's wishes, a reality. This is genuine, prime, A+ Grateful Dead music, one of the best nights of what is widely considered one of the best years. Dick, this one's for you!
As Dick alludes, the previous night on 9/7/73, features some exceptional music, and we're so pleased to include almost two hours of this show to go along with 9/8/73: more than a half hour is included on DAVE'S PICKS VOL. 38 with "Bird Song" and "Playing In The Band" included as bonus tracks, and for Dave's Picks 2021 subscribers, the always-incredible Bonus Disc featuring almost 80 minutes from this great show, including the first live "Let It Grow" (the first complete live Weather Report Suite was played the next night, and is, of course, included on DAVE'S PICKS VOL. 38) and the aforementioned "Truckin'" jam. Also to note: included on the Bonus Disc is the complete 18+ minute "Eyes Of The World" from 9/7/73, which has previously been released in an edited form on the 2003 WAKE OF THE FLOOD reissue. This Bonus Disc is my favourite in the series so far, and after 10 years and 10 Bonus Discs, all of them excellent, that's saying a lot. There's a lot of great music on this Bonus Disc! It's exclusive to subscribers, so if you want to hear one of the best jams of 1973 and have it as part of your collection, you'll want to subscribe.
As you're likely aware, the Dave's Picks volumes sell out very quickly when they're put on sale four times per year. To avoid disappointment by missing out, might as well subscribe. So far we have 4/15/78 and 9/8/73 coming, plus the wonderful Bonus Disc from 9/7/73, and we are working hard on Vol. 39 right now. Last year featured 10/29/77, 6/23/74 (plus 6/22/74 Bonus Disc), 4/20/84, and 3/26&27/87, and this year looks to be even more exciting and dynamic. Thanks for joining us on this journey, and for another great year of archival releases from the Grateful Dead's vault.
David Lemieux
December 2020
2021 Dave's Picks Subscriptions will close on January 8th. A subscription is the only way to ensure that you will receive all four releases and the Subscriber's Only bonus disc.

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dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 20:40 (four months ago) link

Stoked for the 9/8/73 show. This will be my fifth year subscribing I think?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 20:44 (four months ago) link

Really looking forward to both releases; ‘78 has some nicely agitated-sounding shows, and ‘73 is almost always great. And I was surprised by how solid the ‘84 and ‘87 shows were in the 2020 series. Just hope they don’t do any ‘90s shows.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:49 (four months ago) link

Yeah both those '80s releases surprised me, they were both pretty fun. Although I can see why they don't delve into those '80s years when they were recording straight to cassette, #36 definitely sounded more dry when compared to, say, a gorgeous sounding Betty Board. But I did kinda like picking up more of the audience on that one.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:54 (four months ago) link

I come and go with '73 and '74. I did consider for a while that it was their best period. But if I'm not in the mood, it can seem far too slow and lethargic overall (despite some individual standouts).

Peak period for studio albums though - I love Wake of the Flood and Mars Hotel. Perhaps heretically, I wish the Dead had spent more time in the studio. I'd take less live recordings for some more studio recordings.

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:42 (four months ago) link

Sirius XM dead channel had 11/29/79 Cleveland on today. Holy shit, that's the craziest 'Eyes of the World' I've ever heard!

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 19 December 2020 21:21 (four months ago) link

That reminds me: why did they abandon the 7/8 riff in “Eyes”? Was it because it was too difficult with two drummers?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 19 December 2020 21:27 (four months ago) link

yeah i don't think they did it once mickey rejoined ...

tylerw, Saturday, 19 December 2020 21:30 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Jeez, won't let me show gif ov cover--well you can see it via that link; it's pretty good

dow, Friday, 29 January 2021 19:38 (two months ago) link

More about William and Mary volume, that is:

Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!
The town crier's addendum:
Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.
*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

dow, Friday, 29 January 2021 19:40 (two months ago) link

Yeah, stoked for this one. I usually subscribe to the Dave's Picks series. A Betty Board will always do me right. I too like the cover quite a bit.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 January 2021 19:44 (two months ago) link

Yeah, having a flashback too: I almost went/applied to that school---on family trip to Colonial Williamsburg, I went over to campus, talked to students grooving on the green: "Is this a good college?" "Yeah." But instead tried another small, liberal arts-centric school, one born too early for financial stability: it and I soon went South (me geographically)(and otherwise for a while). What Might Have Been...
Several years later, old pal and I unearthed a long clay pipe I'd bought in the Colonial Village, still packed w pot. We smoked it and it was still potent: we got baked in my old homestead bed room.

dow, Friday, 29 January 2021 20:02 (two months ago) link

Don't want to miss out on the limited edition beverage glass.

trip maker, Friday, 29 January 2021 20:50 (two months ago) link

i own these:

brimstead, Friday, 29 January 2021 21:22 (two months ago) link

I actually think I might be ok missing out on those

tobo73, Friday, 29 January 2021 21:44 (two months ago) link

As much as I’ve come to accept the dead into my life I will never accept the merch into my life. Even if I try to do it in a *knowing* way it will fall flat like when I thought it would be cool to buy the “Princeton Tennis” shirt from the thrift shop when I was in college but then people just assumed I was from Princeton.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 January 2021 23:50 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Record Store Day yall

Grateful Dead
Olympia Theatre, Paris, France 5/3/72

Event: RSD DROPS 2021
Release Date: 6/12/2021
Format: 6 x LP
Label: Rhino/Grateful Dead Productions
Quantity: 6700
Release type: RSD Drops 2021 Jun 12th

Available for the first time on vinyl is the complete OLYMPIA THEATRE, PARIS, FRANCE 5/3/72 show from the Grateful Dead’s legendary Europe ‘72 Tour. 6-LP, 180-Gram, Limited Edition of 10,000 worldwide.

Of the twenty-two performances on the famed Europe '72 tour, the first night in Paris on 5/3/72 has always been considered one of the best. This is proven by the fact that four songs from this concert were included on the seventeen-track, seminal platinum-selling Europe '72 album.

Featuring an “Other One” that comes out of Truckin' and weaves in and out of other thematic and deep-space jams, as well as a side trip to Me And Bobby McGee, this is some of the Grateful Dead's best, most inspired improvisation. The performance also includes five songs sung by Pigpen on what would be his final tour, including a massive Good Lovin' which allows Pigpen to do what he does best: hold the audience in the palm of his hand while they hang on his every word. Mixed from the 16-track analog master tapes by Jeffrey Norman and mastered for vinyl by GRAMMY ® Award-winning engineer David Glasser. Produced for release by David Lemieux.

Side A – Bertha, Me and My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree / Side B - Black-Throated Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower, I Know You Rider
Side C - Beat It On Down The Line, He's Gone, Next Time You See Me / Side D - Playing In The Band, Tennessee Jed
Side E - Good Lovin' / Side F - Sing Me Back Home, Casey Jones, Greatest Story Ever Told
Side G - Ramble On Rose, Hurts Me Too, Truckin' / Side H - The Other One, Drums
Side I - The Other One, Me And Bobby McGee, The Other One /Side J - Wharf Rat, Jack Straw, Sugar Magnolia
Side K - Not Fade Away, Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad, Not Fade Away, One More Saturday Night / Side L - [Etching]

dow, Thursday, 8 April 2021 00:01 (one week ago) link

I'm still not sold on the idea of listening to full Dead shows on vinyl, but that's a great one. Also I love the artwork from the Europe 72 box, and the baguette guitar is one of the best

J. Sam, Thursday, 8 April 2021 02:08 (one week ago) link

April 12, 2021— Bob Weir and Wolf Bros announce their fourth livestream performance of 2021 via FANS, on April 24 at 6pm PT/9pm ET
The Wolf Bros are Bob Weir, Don Was, and Jay Lane, and the livestream will feature Jeff Chimenti on keys and Greg Leisz on pedal steel, along with special guests The Wolf Pack: Alex Kelly, Brian Switzer, Adam Theis, Mads Tolling and Sheldon Brown.

Bob Weir—a founding member of the legendary Grateful Dead, who received a GRAMMY Lifetime Achievement Award in 2007—has become one of rock’s finest and most distinctive rhythm guitarists. In 2016 Weir released Blue Mountain on Columbia/Legacy, his first album of solo material in more than 10 years and his first album of entirely original material in more than 30 years. Weir is currently a member of Dead & Company which features Grateful Dead members Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzmann along with John Mayer, Oteil Burbridge and Jeff Chimenti.
Don Was founded the ’80s funk-rock band Was (Not Was), known for hits such as “Walk The Dinosaur” and “Spy In The House Of Love.” As an in-demand, highly acclaimed producer, Was has been honored with four GRAMMY Awards for his production work in each of the past three decades, including Best Album honors for work with the Rolling Stones and Bonnie Raitt. Production credits include the Rolling Stones, Willie Nelson, Roy Orbison, Gregg Allman, John Mayer and Neil Young. Albums produced by Was have achieved dozens of multi-Platinum, Platinum and Gold certifications and have sold more than 90 million copies worldwide. As one of music’s top bass players, Was has collaborated with countless musicians throughout his storied career, spanning a multitude of genres.
San Francisco-based drummer Jay Lane played with Bob Weir’s RatDog for more than 16 years. He was also one of Primus’ first drummers. More recently, Lane performed with Phil Lesh and Friends.
Keyboardist Jeff Chimenti has a long history of working with former members of Grateful Dead; he currently plays with Dead & Company and has also played with Bob Weir & RatDog, The Dead and Further.
Southern California-based multi-instrumentalist, songwriter and producer Greg Leisz has recorded and performed with the likes of Eric Clapton, Joni Mitchell, Willie Nelson, John Mayer, Bruce Springsteen, Eagles, Joe Cocker and Emmylou Harris amongst others. Leisz received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Americana Music Association in 2010, and a GRAMMY in 2011 for his work with Ray LaMontagne and the Pariah Dogs on God Willing & Creek Don’t Rise.
About FANS:
Building on the success of The Relix Channel live streaming platform, independent music impresario Peter Shapiro has reinvigorated In an effort to continue growing the company’s broadcast offerings, Shapiro and FANS have developed an immersive, livestreaming platform changing the way music is created, shared, and experienced—no matter where it finds you. FANS enables advanced communication within live streams so users can do more than view including being in the stream alongside viewers around the globe. With a commitment to keeping live music enthusiasts connected during these unprecedented times, the site will stream live concerts and archival video content from The Capitol Theatre, Brooklyn Bowl Williamsburg and Las Vegas, Garcia’s and LOCKN’ festival, as well as from fellow venues/festivals. More information:
Watch Bob Weir and Wolf Bros perform at the NPR Tiny Desk HERE.

(Or hear it at prob)

dow, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 21:43 (five days ago) link

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