Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

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With the odd notable exception like 'American Beauty', 'Anthem of the Sun' and a few other studio albums, the Grateful Dead have always been about live performance. It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense. And their live albums contain some extraordinary music (as well as some dodgier moments).

But there's just so much of it out there. By my reckoning they released eight regular live albums during the life of the band, but since then the floodgates have opened. There are now 29 Dick's Picks releases, most of them triple CDs, and about a dozen other albums like One/Two From The Vaults, Ladies & Gentlemen, Hundred Year Hall, The Phil Zone etc.

So, what have you heard and what do you like? Are there particular periods (the 80s?) that are no-go areas? Is it only worth bothering with stuff from 68-71?

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You've obviously got to start with 'Live Dead'. I listened to it again over the weekend, and it still sounds extraordinary. There may be better versions of 'Dark Star' out there, but as the first one I heard it'll always be the definitive one for me.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

yes can we have some ans here. I need to know what to look out for!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've been piling through a lot of my Dead live Cds/box sets over the last couple of weeks, but I still feel like I'm only scratching the surface. I've got several thoughts about it, but for the moment I'll just say:
1) I've not heard a version of 'Dark Star' that isn't awesome.
2) The quality of the version of a song bears no relation to how good the jamming is going to be after it (i.e. ignore the ropey vocals, there's some good stuff coming along in a minute).
3) Brent Mydland. Oh dear.
4) Donna Godchaux. Oh dear, oh dear.
5) They were something fucking special around 68-71. I feel like trying to pick up every single thing that's been released from this period.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

search: the dead from 1973-74. totally at the top of their game during this period.

chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Reckoning -- The traditional "Live" album for LP release. Quiet, crisp performances. No flubs, all first rate versions, and a pleasure to listen to throughout. 9.6

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it? 9.4

Nightfall of Diamonds -- Winterland, 10/10/89 -- Great sound; a bit noodley in places, but right nice. 8.6

Dick's Picks #8 -- Harpur College, 5/02/70 -- Three-Quarters of this is impeccable; good form, nice song selection - one disc acoustic, one disc electric, and one disc rave-ups (i don't much care for their R&B covers like "Dancing in the Streets" and "It's A Man's Man's Man's World"). 8.5

Ladies & Gentleman... The Grateful Dead -- Filmore East, April 1971 -- A good listen, but it delves a bit too much into the Helter Skelter for strict listening. Works better as background -- but is noteworthy for the block of Pigpen's blues numbers. 7.8

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Harpur College

my alma mater! (aka "the liberal arts college of SUNY Binghamton")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've heard a good bit of Dead over the years, and own a fair amount of albums. I second Dick's Pick's Four... the best album I've heard from them. Live/Dead is of course essential, and I think Europe '72 is as well. It was the first Dead record I bought. It's from a bunch of shows from their Europe '72 tour which is among their very best tours (many would say there best. It's there last tour with Pigpen and their first with Keith). It contains little jamming (disk two has some) and was mainly released because the songs on there had yet to be put to vinyl. It was also a bit touched up in the studio, I believe. I know they recently released another cd from that tour, as well as an expanded Europe '72, though I don't think I've heard either, I believe they're quite good as well.

One From the Vault is strong, too. It's from '75, and was from one of two shows celebrating the release of Blues for Allah. It contains every song from that album (in a better version)--including the title track which is, unfortunately, a total dud, IMO (though I'm hardly alone). The Dead didn't tour in '75 or '76, but this is a strong performance though not essential.

I agree on 68-71 being strong. But so is the Europe '72 tour - 74.Dick's Pick's 12 features the quite famous "Mind Left Body" jam as well as the glorious return of "China Cat Sunflower" to their catalogue.

Pretty much all of '77 is great. 5-8-77 Cornell is their most frequently bootlegged show, and thus essential, though not their best performance. It shouldn't be hard to find. '78 is good too, and then they hit a lull.

I believe it's '83 that I've heard good things about, but I've never taken the time to investigate. '78 was the last time they released a studio album until '87, so I kind of avoid it. In '87 bounced back from a heroin-induced coma, and the band was strong again so I'd seek out some stuff from this era too.

Hope this helped a little. I also have to highly recommend the Jerry Garcia Band (which is mostly just a cover band) release Don't Let Go from '75 with Keith on acoustic piano. It's a very tight, mellow session. With only one guitar in there, you can really hear how good of a guitarist Jerry was when he was on.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The other thing about '77 is that it's when they became really, really funky. That's why it's so popular. And as usual, when they were on--which was often that year--they were really on. Many would say it's their best year, and I agree it's definitely one of them.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

''Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).''

will do

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

apologies for the faulty spacing there...

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 19:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it?

You can still get any of the Dick's Picks from the Dead's own site ( DP4 is $21 plus postage.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

No shit? I've been looking for a "gift" copy for years -- Thanks, JB.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The new Dick's Picks 39 is a six-disc set of two 1977 shows.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Whoops, that's 29.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The thing with a lot of live Dead stuff is that even the better gigs have a lot of average stuff on them, but they're worth hearing for the moments where the inspiration hits and they really take off.

So I don't know why they don't release more albums that take stuff from a variety of performances (and eras), cherry-picking the really juicy tracks. 'The Phil Zone' is a good example of this - it's got a great range of stuff, even some not-bad performances from the late 80s. And it's got an absolutely monster version of 'Hard to Handle', which not only rocks like a bastard, it's from an audience tape so you can hear everybody going mental as they crank it up.

(I also wish you could hear more audience on a lot of the Dick's Picks. They capture the music well, but not always the whole occasion. OK, I know they're mostly taken from the mixing desk so maybe that's not possible.)

Aaron or chaki - could you recommend any good Dick's Picks from 73-4 or 77?

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've been meaning to contribute to this thread, but I wanted to wait for a free moment to audition a bunch of my stuff again. One good thing this thread has done is get me to finally listen to the package of Dick's Picks I got a couple months ago but hadn't listened to yet (well, I threw them when I got them but wasn't able to listen as closely as I'd like): 22 and 26. So far, 26 sounds great! A bunch of rare live Aoxomoxoa songs!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

#4 and #8 are my favorites (though i kinda stopped paying attention after 16 or so - not for lack of interest but lack of cash)

search GRAYFOLDED - Oswald's "plundering" of over 100 versions of Dark Star from 69-95. Essential drone

Anthem of the Sun and Live/Dead are pretty much perfect legit albums btw

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 July 2003 06:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I was thinking of getting 26, Mr D. The track listing looks very promising, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.

And I've just looked at the tracks for 22, that also looks tempting. I listened to Two From The Vaults over the weekend, from the same year (and with a similar set). There's something about the sound of the band/Garcia's guitar from that time (68/69). I can only describe it as having a lot more bite.

Completely agree with you roger about Live/Dead - that's the benchmark for me, both the version of Dark Star and the album as a whole.

I was surprised the first time I heard Grayfolded how 'ordinary' a lot of it sounded i.e. not ordinary as such but just like a great extended version of Dark Star, the first CD at least. The vocal 'swooshes' and 'folds' sound good though.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 7 July 2003 13:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 10 July 2003 19:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 11:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
Revive, please.

Just listening to vol 12's lovely version of China Cat Sunflower, as mentioned above by Aaron M.

Any new opinions?

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I really like #16. I feel like the only Dead I ever buy is stuff from 68-70. I just saw #4 at a store and it looks great, after reading this I've decided I need it. Hundred Year Hall is a great set and I enjoy a lot more than the Europe 72 album, which I think sounds kind of neutered. There is a lot of inspired jamming and an absolutely beautiful Pigpen vocal on "Two Souls in Communion." I haven't listened to it in years, though, since my copy was stolen. I have a hard time buying Grateful Dead discs sometimes, although I have no problem listening to them.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Closing of Winterland looks promising.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
the dvd? it's fucking awesome! Possibly my favorite music DVD ever!

i'm too tired to elaborate, but if you consider that Neil Young has Candian citizenship, and if you exclude the American contingent of Fleetwood Mac at their absolute peak, The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time.

Trux and the Drive By Truckers are tied for me personally, but we're looking through history's lens here, people. The Dead. the fucking DEAD!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I spent last weekend listening to Ladies and Gentlemen... the Grateful Dead, that 4cd set that Arista put out a couple years back. Fucking PRIME '71 era shit. Absolutely G=god-like. Rog, you gotta get that one if ya don't have it...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Also, I really want to see this..

I do have to admit, I didn't get that excited about Closing of Winterland though. THen again, I watched it at like 3 in the morning a couple months ago when I was pretty wiped out. I'll give it another go.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm a ridiculous Godchaux apologist, FWIW.

haven't tracked down that Arista set - 71, eh? I'm more a 72-77 kinda guy, but will check it out - thanks!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, a 72-77 guy! I'm impressed. I'm still trying to get with the Godchaux era. I think it will come to me in due time. Do you have that One From the Vault? That one's pretty good, as I recall.

Yeah, the Ladies and Gentlemen thing is '71 but it's pretty song-oriented. Sort of midway between the psychedelic blow-outs and the Europe '72 stuff. It's a nice, pleasant listen. GREAT version of "Bird Song".

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

im a 73 guy and yah the new dvd is great!!

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ok, fuck it, Chaki I trust you.. I will watch it again!! It just kind of seemed goofy to me. With the whole dude riding in on a joint at the beginning of the concert. Like, you almost want to shake Bill Graham and the Dead and say, "the 60's are OVER!! Didn't you guys watch 'gimme shelter'??" Plus, the Godchaux. And "Fire on the Mountain" goes on entirely too long. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Dead, don't get me wrong, but that 'FOTM' just goes on too long, sorry. But I will check it out again, as I said...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hmm.. I just started watching it again, midway through the set. You know what? This version of "Friend of the Devil" is really kind of beautiful! Even Donna is kind of endearing right here! Mea culpa.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Even Donna" - wtf?

Donna was probably just as proficient a musician as Phil Lesh (making her twice as proficient as Bob Weir) and an all around great, great vocalist. Her live performances were hit and miss due to lack of proper monitor support, everyone knows that.

She never gets a fair shake. It's not like she was Linda McCartney fer chrissakes.

The Godchauxes broght so much life (not to mention a a very vital jazz-informed musical eloquence) to The Dead. I love Pigpen and Mydland as much as the nxt guy, but the 70s are where it's AT because of Keith and Donna!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Disk one of Vol. 23 rules. I have to admit, though, that the "China Cat Sunflower" / "I Know You Rider" medley gets sooo tiresome after listening to Dick's Picks.

Rocking the Rhein is good stuff as well.

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the "Dark Star" on Rockin' the Rhein is eyeball-melting

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I bought Dick's Picks 22 on a fleeting whim a few days ago.
I'm a little regretful of it now.
Feb '68 show at a Lake Tahoe bowling alley. Vocals are rarely audible (which I guess isn't always a bad thing, har har).
Now I'm wanting Rockin the Rhein.
I think I need a break from the Dead.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just listened to Reckoning this past Friday night. Always a treat to pull that one out.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'Two From the Vault' is's mastered or mixed really well for headphones. And at the end of 'Morning Dew' the house pulls the electricity from them, great moment.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense."

Au contraire. Au contraire.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time."

i take umbrage with this comment.
and so would CCR.

me rawk.
you snow.

eedd, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Regarding my last post, in case it's not clear, I mean to say that they SUCK LIVE. I don't get it.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Blues for Allah is the best thing they ever did, according to me

Help/Slip/Frank rules

Jackson, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Donna's "soulful" scream at the end of "Scarlet Begonias" on Dick's Picks 7 is the most out-of-key singing I've heard on an officially released record.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

apparently there's a letter to the editor in the new Arthur from me regarding The Dead, but i haven't seen it. i can't get it here

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
HELP - I'm visiting a well-stocked Deadhead (over 300 shows) who has kindly offered to let me borrow whatever I want from his stash - any suggestions as to what I shld look out for - keep in mind that I generally prefer Dead Stuff w/ LOTS of guitar solos, the freakier the better, and am less concerned abt 'songs' per se

Thank You

Uncle John, Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I just got this Jerry Garcia Band 3-CD Kean College set from 1980 that Rhino put out last fall. S'good! I'm just a dabbler in the Dead, but this is close to perfect -- nice sparse 4-piece, warmly recorded, the grooves don't overwhelm the songs and vice-versa -- I mean, the grooves are songlike, and the songs are groovelike. And maybe because he doesn't have to work to make himself heard, Jerry's playing is even more loose and gentle than usual. The solos are like barstool conversations. I think I'm going to be listening to this a lot.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 9 January 2005 08:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yah that shit kicks ass

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 09:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
May check out that Jerry band thing. Has anyone heard the No. 29 6CD thing from '77? Curious about that as well.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

One more chance at an answer re No. 29. I orderd the Jerry Band thing yesterday.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Reminds me---yeah, Greyfolded is still here---might or might not turn out to be a bit of a buzzkill; I've never listened to the whole thing---but here 'tis for whoever wants it:

dow, Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:08 (seven months ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, Greyfolded is one of my favorite things in the world. After my recent 73/74 "Dark Star" odyssey I revisited Greyfolded and, studying the chart in the liner notes, sadly realized my beloved 8/1/73 version wasn't used. Can't recommend it highly enough for maximum uplift.

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

Spoiler Alert...Dr. Rhino unboxes the individually-numbered, limited-edition May 1977: Get Shown The Light Boxed Set. (there's also a non-ltd. ed, duh)

HAT'S INSIDE (the non-limited All Music Edition):
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

More info, audio:

dow, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

Well dang--- oh well, the box-strip video's on that linked page too.

dow, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

Those four shows are peak Dead, obviously. Been successfully avoiding being gouged by the Dead this year (Dave's Picks subscription was my one allowance, and that was a xmas gift to myself) but this one is really tempting. Bastards

Wimmels, Thursday, 20 April 2017 01:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

Other shows on their previous May '77 box

dow, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

haha, that set does look pretty tempting, but i don't think i can justify the cost ...

tylerw, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

Thanks J Sam for the Rhodes DS list upthread, I'm really enjoying those shows

Brakhage, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

there's a nice rhodes-y Bird Song from '73 here:

tylerw, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

Thanks J Sam for the Rhodes DS list upthread, I'm really enjoying those shows

― Brakhage, Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:02 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're very welcome! I'm happy to help.

there's a nice rhodes-y Bird Song from '73 here:

― tylerw, Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:09 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh HELL yeah, I love that version. That whole show is fantastic, especially the He's Gone-> Truckin'-> Nobody's Fault But Mine-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Sugar Magnolia in the second set.

J. Sam, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

going to see the GD movie screening tonight, heard mixed things, but eh, never seen it, why not

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

I haven't seen that in close to 25 years now but I still use the line "I'm just trying to get my space together before I go to the show" (as uttered by some super fried person in that film) from time to time when I'm trying to, you know, get my space together.

joygoat, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:27 (seven months ago) Permalink

saw the movie when I was like 13 y.o. at the red vic in s.f. circa 1980 and got super emo about the beautifulness of it all

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

lol been there xp


global tetrahedron, Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

really gettin anxious for my cornell box btw

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

the movie rules, dunno what mixed things you've heard, every deadhead I know loves it!

make sure to get there early for the animation sequence

Wimmels, Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

it was really fun. tinged with more menace than i thought (hells angels, dirtbag/obnxious hippies). i can see why people said 'the scene' got pretty ugly

global tetrahedron, Friday, 21 April 2017 15:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

current Dead listening - this great collection of 1975 rehearsal jams:

tylerw, Friday, 21 April 2017 15:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i wrote a couple entries for this thing! it's good, though maybe nothing new to true heads:

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:07 (six months ago) Permalink

hashtag pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:11 (six months ago) Permalink

looking forward to digging in. not super versed on pre-1969 dead, cream puff war mentioned here is sounding really good

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:49 (six months ago) Permalink

That Rare Cuts and Oddities I got into upthread has some intriguing (and fun) early stuff.

dow, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:02 (six months ago) Permalink

Some interesting choices in the pfork thing. Also, surprised to learn James McNew is a Deadhead...was it obvious and I just missed it?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:54 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah, he's been into it for a little while -- there's a pretty amazing tape of him and bill frisell doing Dark Star > Comes A Time from a couple years back

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:57 (six months ago) Permalink

Well dang---Long Strange Trip is one night only----this Thursday, during the working week---most everywhere, except L.A. and Tri-State area Heads can also pick up tickets for the limited theatrical run, Thursday, May 25- Thursday, June 1st.. Complete list of theaters nationwide and link for tickets here:

dow, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:02 (six months ago) Permalink

Wow, cool! Thanks for posting that!


Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:04 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, thanks! Also, that reminded me to check for this (Ornette w GD---he hasn't started playing yet, but so far so good)
And I guess this is the whole show:

dow, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:18 (six months ago) Permalink

Link to "Dark Star" on Long Strange Trip soundtrack, says the Amazon-exclusive version has 80 minutes more than other (incl. 20 min. "Eyes of the World"), and other stuff:

dow, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 18:56 (five months ago) Permalink

Amazon-exclusive version of the soundtrack, that is.

dow, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 18:57 (five months ago) Permalink

the movie was amazing, i don't remember if i posted about it, but holy shit it's a masterpiece. easily the best music documentary i've ever seen. the quote that stuck with was Jerry responding to a journalist asking about Deadheads taping shows: "It's fine with me if people can find some use in music that's already happened."

flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 19:01 (five months ago) Permalink

Should be up on Prime vid tomorrow, stoked

Brakhage, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:29 (five months ago) Permalink

What's a good entry point for the Brent era--specifically, highlighting what he brought to the band, rather than just how the Dead were in general during that time? I've never listened past the 1970s, since '80s Dead seemed to the genesis of many stereotypes that put me off from getting into them for years: the parking lot scene, bro-ish jam band fans, etc. Not to mention the general track of record of '60s artists in '80s.

Still, the documentary seemed to stress Brent was a godsend for the band, and I know a few heads who really dig that period, so figured I'd dip the toe in to see what I'm missing.

blatherskite, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 18:51 (five months ago) Permalink

I got to that part in the doc and thought, hm, I should give the Brent era a chance. Then I heard him sing.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 18:54 (five months ago) Permalink

I listened to Go To Nassau from 1980 recently and was surprised at how strong it was -- Garcia sounds great at least.

tylerw, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 18:57 (five months ago) Permalink

Spring 1990 (the last tour with Brent), is considered by some to be the best point of that version of the band. There was a full box set out a year or two ago, but the 'Dozin' at the Knick' 3cd set is also pretty hot. I love Brent's singing.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 19:00 (five months ago) Permalink

"Dozin'" seconded. My gateway to what limited Dead fandom I possess.

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 20:28 (five months ago) Permalink

Thanks, will check those out!

blatherskite, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 21:13 (five months ago) Permalink

I listened to Go To Nassau from 1980 recently and was surprised at how strong it was -- Garcia sounds great at least.

Oh yeah. This is a go-to "show" when I want to hear early 80s Dead. The first set is remarkably strong and their take on Jack Straw here is probably my favourite ever. Love the energy as they return to the final verse.

doug watson, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 23:48 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Grateful Dead Fan Sends Women Unsolicited Dick’s Picks

joygoat, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 14:56 (three months ago) Permalink


how's life, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 15:25 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm (re)discovering "High Time" today via Go To Nassau, and then a few different versions on Archive. Haven't owned a copy of Workingman's Dead since high school, and they didn't play the song all that often past 1970, so I'd kinda forgotten how good it is.

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:41 (three months ago) Permalink

I've been wondering - are there any "standard" dead songs, like ones they've played more than 10 times or so, where sometimes Jerry will sing, sometimes Bob will sing? I haven't listened to nearly enough shows to have any examples of this.

I never thought too hard about the "bob songs" vs. "jerry songs" thing until I watched the recent documentary and it mentioned the spinners who would sit down for Bob songs.

joygoat, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:09 (three months ago) Permalink

i don't think so -- only thing i can think of is "when i paint my masterpiece" which garcia sang with the JGB in the 70s but Weir sang with the Dead in the 80s. there are random exceptions -- weir initially sang "dire wolf" and garcia didn't chime in on "jack straw" at first.

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:14 (three months ago) Permalink

Hah hah, did not realize I had something in common with the spinners.

grandavis, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:19 (three months ago) Permalink

Brent sang some soaring harmonies during the chorus of Touch of Grey in the early 80s (thinking specifically of Merriweather 6/21/83, he's pretty high in the mix). Such a drag they cut his harmonies on the studio version until the very last refrain, and even then it's absurdly low in the mix.

flappy bird, Monday, 7 August 2017 16:23 (three months ago) Permalink

dude sounds like grover

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 7 August 2017 16:50 (three months ago) Permalink

lol true

1:08:27 tho... his singing is amazing, fits the songs perfectly, not Grovery at all

flappy bird, Monday, 7 August 2017 17:13 (three months ago) Permalink

discovered the bird song from 'ladies and gentlemen...' gentle and gorgeous

global tetrahedron, Monday, 7 August 2017 17:31 (three months ago) Permalink

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