Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

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With the odd notable exception like 'American Beauty', 'Anthem of the Sun' and a few other studio albums, the Grateful Dead have always been about live performance. It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense. And their live albums contain some extraordinary music (as well as some dodgier moments).

But there's just so much of it out there. By my reckoning they released eight regular live albums during the life of the band, but since then the floodgates have opened. There are now 29 Dick's Picks releases, most of them triple CDs, and about a dozen other albums like One/Two From The Vaults, Ladies & Gentlemen, Hundred Year Hall, The Phil Zone etc.

So, what have you heard and what do you like? Are there particular periods (the 80s?) that are no-go areas? Is it only worth bothering with stuff from 68-71?

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

You've obviously got to start with 'Live Dead'. I listened to it again over the weekend, and it still sounds extraordinary. There may be better versions of 'Dark Star' out there, but as the first one I heard it'll always be the definitive one for me.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

yes can we have some ans here. I need to know what to look out for!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:11 (twenty years ago) link

I've been piling through a lot of my Dead live Cds/box sets over the last couple of weeks, but I still feel like I'm only scratching the surface. I've got several thoughts about it, but for the moment I'll just say:
1) I've not heard a version of 'Dark Star' that isn't awesome.
2) The quality of the version of a song bears no relation to how good the jamming is going to be after it (i.e. ignore the ropey vocals, there's some good stuff coming along in a minute).
3) Brent Mydland. Oh dear.
4) Donna Godchaux. Oh dear, oh dear.
5) They were something fucking special around 68-71. I feel like trying to pick up every single thing that's been released from this period.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

search: the dead from 1973-74. totally at the top of their game during this period.

chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

Reckoning -- The traditional "Live" album for LP release. Quiet, crisp performances. No flubs, all first rate versions, and a pleasure to listen to throughout. 9.6

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it? 9.4

Nightfall of Diamonds -- Winterland, 10/10/89 -- Great sound; a bit noodley in places, but right nice. 8.6

Dick's Picks #8 -- Harpur College, 5/02/70 -- Three-Quarters of this is impeccable; good form, nice song selection - one disc acoustic, one disc electric, and one disc rave-ups (i don't much care for their R&B covers like "Dancing in the Streets" and "It's A Man's Man's Man's World"). 8.5

Ladies & Gentleman... The Grateful Dead -- Filmore East, April 1971 -- A good listen, but it delves a bit too much into the Helter Skelter for strict listening. Works better as background -- but is noteworthy for the block of Pigpen's blues numbers. 7.8

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link

Harpur College

my alma mater! (aka "the liberal arts college of SUNY Binghamton")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

I've heard a good bit of Dead over the years, and own a fair amount of albums. I second Dick's Pick's Four... the best album I've heard from them. Live/Dead is of course essential, and I think Europe '72 is as well. It was the first Dead record I bought. It's from a bunch of shows from their Europe '72 tour which is among their very best tours (many would say there best. It's there last tour with Pigpen and their first with Keith). It contains little jamming (disk two has some) and was mainly released because the songs on there had yet to be put to vinyl. It was also a bit touched up in the studio, I believe. I know they recently released another cd from that tour, as well as an expanded Europe '72, though I don't think I've heard either, I believe they're quite good as well.

One From the Vault is strong, too. It's from '75, and was from one of two shows celebrating the release of Blues for Allah. It contains every song from that album (in a better version)--including the title track which is, unfortunately, a total dud, IMO (though I'm hardly alone). The Dead didn't tour in '75 or '76, but this is a strong performance though not essential.

I agree on 68-71 being strong. But so is the Europe '72 tour - 74.Dick's Pick's 12 features the quite famous "Mind Left Body" jam as well as the glorious return of "China Cat Sunflower" to their catalogue.

Pretty much all of '77 is great. 5-8-77 Cornell is their most frequently bootlegged show, and thus essential, though not their best performance. It shouldn't be hard to find. '78 is good too, and then they hit a lull.

I believe it's '83 that I've heard good things about, but I've never taken the time to investigate. '78 was the last time they released a studio album until '87, so I kind of avoid it. In '87 bounced back from a heroin-induced coma, and the band was strong again so I'd seek out some stuff from this era too.

Hope this helped a little. I also have to highly recommend the Jerry Garcia Band (which is mostly just a cover band) release Don't Let Go from '75 with Keith on acoustic piano. It's a very tight, mellow session. With only one guitar in there, you can really hear how good of a guitarist Jerry was when he was on.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link

The other thing about '77 is that it's when they became really, really funky. That's why it's so popular. And as usual, when they were on--which was often that year--they were really on. Many would say it's their best year, and I agree it's definitely one of them.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link

''Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).''

will do

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

apologies for the faulty spacing there...

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it?

You can still get any of the Dick's Picks from the Dead's own site ( DP4 is $21 plus postage.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

No shit? I've been looking for a "gift" copy for years -- Thanks, JB.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

The new Dick's Picks 39 is a six-disc set of two 1977 shows.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

Whoops, that's 29.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link

The thing with a lot of live Dead stuff is that even the better gigs have a lot of average stuff on them, but they're worth hearing for the moments where the inspiration hits and they really take off.

So I don't know why they don't release more albums that take stuff from a variety of performances (and eras), cherry-picking the really juicy tracks. 'The Phil Zone' is a good example of this - it's got a great range of stuff, even some not-bad performances from the late 80s. And it's got an absolutely monster version of 'Hard to Handle', which not only rocks like a bastard, it's from an audience tape so you can hear everybody going mental as they crank it up.

(I also wish you could hear more audience on a lot of the Dick's Picks. They capture the music well, but not always the whole occasion. OK, I know they're mostly taken from the mixing desk so maybe that's not possible.)

Aaron or chaki - could you recommend any good Dick's Picks from 73-4 or 77?

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

I've been meaning to contribute to this thread, but I wanted to wait for a free moment to audition a bunch of my stuff again. One good thing this thread has done is get me to finally listen to the package of Dick's Picks I got a couple months ago but hadn't listened to yet (well, I threw them when I got them but wasn't able to listen as closely as I'd like): 22 and 26. So far, 26 sounds great! A bunch of rare live Aoxomoxoa songs!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

#4 and #8 are my favorites (though i kinda stopped paying attention after 16 or so - not for lack of interest but lack of cash)

search GRAYFOLDED - Oswald's "plundering" of over 100 versions of Dark Star from 69-95. Essential drone

Anthem of the Sun and Live/Dead are pretty much perfect legit albums btw

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 July 2003 06:05 (twenty years ago) link

I was thinking of getting 26, Mr D. The track listing looks very promising, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.

And I've just looked at the tracks for 22, that also looks tempting. I listened to Two From The Vaults over the weekend, from the same year (and with a similar set). There's something about the sound of the band/Garcia's guitar from that time (68/69). I can only describe it as having a lot more bite.

Completely agree with you roger about Live/Dead - that's the benchmark for me, both the version of Dark Star and the album as a whole.

I was surprised the first time I heard Grayfolded how 'ordinary' a lot of it sounded i.e. not ordinary as such but just like a great extended version of Dark Star, the first CD at least. The vocal 'swooshes' and 'folds' sound good though.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 7 July 2003 13:54 (twenty years ago) link


James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 10 July 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link


James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

ten months pass...
Revive, please.

Just listening to vol 12's lovely version of China Cat Sunflower, as mentioned above by Aaron M.

Any new opinions?

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I really like #16. I feel like the only Dead I ever buy is stuff from 68-70. I just saw #4 at a store and it looks great, after reading this I've decided I need it. Hundred Year Hall is a great set and I enjoy a lot more than the Europe 72 album, which I think sounds kind of neutered. There is a lot of inspired jamming and an absolutely beautiful Pigpen vocal on "Two Souls in Communion." I haven't listened to it in years, though, since my copy was stolen. I have a hard time buying Grateful Dead discs sometimes, although I have no problem listening to them.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Closing of Winterland looks promising.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
the dvd? it's fucking awesome! Possibly my favorite music DVD ever!

i'm too tired to elaborate, but if you consider that Neil Young has Candian citizenship, and if you exclude the American contingent of Fleetwood Mac at their absolute peak, The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time.

Trux and the Drive By Truckers are tied for me personally, but we're looking through history's lens here, people. The Dead. the fucking DEAD!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I spent last weekend listening to Ladies and Gentlemen... the Grateful Dead, that 4cd set that Arista put out a couple years back. Fucking PRIME '71 era shit. Absolutely G=god-like. Rog, you gotta get that one if ya don't have it...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, I really want to see this..

I do have to admit, I didn't get that excited about Closing of Winterland though. THen again, I watched it at like 3 in the morning a couple months ago when I was pretty wiped out. I'll give it another go.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a ridiculous Godchaux apologist, FWIW.

haven't tracked down that Arista set - 71, eh? I'm more a 72-77 kinda guy, but will check it out - thanks!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, a 72-77 guy! I'm impressed. I'm still trying to get with the Godchaux era. I think it will come to me in due time. Do you have that One From the Vault? That one's pretty good, as I recall.

Yeah, the Ladies and Gentlemen thing is '71 but it's pretty song-oriented. Sort of midway between the psychedelic blow-outs and the Europe '72 stuff. It's a nice, pleasant listen. GREAT version of "Bird Song".

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:42 (nineteen years ago) link

im a 73 guy and yah the new dvd is great!!

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link

ok, fuck it, Chaki I trust you.. I will watch it again!! It just kind of seemed goofy to me. With the whole dude riding in on a joint at the beginning of the concert. Like, you almost want to shake Bill Graham and the Dead and say, "the 60's are OVER!! Didn't you guys watch 'gimme shelter'??" Plus, the Godchaux. And "Fire on the Mountain" goes on entirely too long. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Dead, don't get me wrong, but that 'FOTM' just goes on too long, sorry. But I will check it out again, as I said...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm.. I just started watching it again, midway through the set. You know what? This version of "Friend of the Devil" is really kind of beautiful! Even Donna is kind of endearing right here! Mea culpa.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:45 (nineteen years ago) link

"Even Donna" - wtf?

Donna was probably just as proficient a musician as Phil Lesh (making her twice as proficient as Bob Weir) and an all around great, great vocalist. Her live performances were hit and miss due to lack of proper monitor support, everyone knows that.

She never gets a fair shake. It's not like she was Linda McCartney fer chrissakes.

The Godchauxes broght so much life (not to mention a a very vital jazz-informed musical eloquence) to The Dead. I love Pigpen and Mydland as much as the nxt guy, but the 70s are where it's AT because of Keith and Donna!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Disk one of Vol. 23 rules. I have to admit, though, that the "China Cat Sunflower" / "I Know You Rider" medley gets sooo tiresome after listening to Dick's Picks.

Rocking the Rhein is good stuff as well.

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

the "Dark Star" on Rockin' the Rhein is eyeball-melting

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I bought Dick's Picks 22 on a fleeting whim a few days ago.
I'm a little regretful of it now.
Feb '68 show at a Lake Tahoe bowling alley. Vocals are rarely audible (which I guess isn't always a bad thing, har har).
Now I'm wanting Rockin the Rhein.
I think I need a break from the Dead.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I just listened to Reckoning this past Friday night. Always a treat to pull that one out.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

'Two From the Vault' is's mastered or mixed really well for headphones. And at the end of 'Morning Dew' the house pulls the electricity from them, great moment.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense."

Au contraire. Au contraire.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time."

i take umbrage with this comment.
and so would CCR.

me rawk.
you snow.

eedd, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Regarding my last post, in case it's not clear, I mean to say that they SUCK LIVE. I don't get it.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Blues for Allah is the best thing they ever did, according to me

Help/Slip/Frank rules

Jackson, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Donna's "soulful" scream at the end of "Scarlet Begonias" on Dick's Picks 7 is the most out-of-key singing I've heard on an officially released record.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

apparently there's a letter to the editor in the new Arthur from me regarding The Dead, but i haven't seen it. i can't get it here

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
HELP - I'm visiting a well-stocked Deadhead (over 300 shows) who has kindly offered to let me borrow whatever I want from his stash - any suggestions as to what I shld look out for - keep in mind that I generally prefer Dead Stuff w/ LOTS of guitar solos, the freakier the better, and am less concerned abt 'songs' per se

Thank You

Uncle John, Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just got this Jerry Garcia Band 3-CD Kean College set from 1980 that Rhino put out last fall. S'good! I'm just a dabbler in the Dead, but this is close to perfect -- nice sparse 4-piece, warmly recorded, the grooves don't overwhelm the songs and vice-versa -- I mean, the grooves are songlike, and the songs are groovelike. And maybe because he doesn't have to work to make himself heard, Jerry's playing is even more loose and gentle than usual. The solos are like barstool conversations. I think I'm going to be listening to this a lot.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 9 January 2005 08:49 (eighteen years ago) link

yah that shit kicks ass

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 09:05 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
May check out that Jerry band thing. Has anyone heard the No. 29 6CD thing from '77? Curious about that as well.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

One more chance at an answer re No. 29. I orderd the Jerry Band thing yesterday.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

have only heard that^ dark star as it appears on the glastonbury fayre triple lp, which annoyingly is almost ten minutes shorter than it is on its later release!

no lime tangier, Friday, 26 May 2023 08:19 (six months ago) link

PBKR, curious to know what you think of the horns in 9/11/73. They brought the sax and trumpet players from Doug Sahm's band on for a few songs on each of the September 1973 shows.

I thought this show had a different vibe, but I have to admit I didn't notice horns (lol, me). I'm only part way through so I will focus more on it this weekend.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 26 May 2023 11:19 (six months ago) link

so J Sam can you recommend some fave good-sounding shows from, say, each year of the 70s? I am looking for a nice Help/Slip/Franklin in particular but I love all yr recommendations so far

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:48 (five months ago) link

(tbh the question is for the thread in general, any good Dick's Picks etc recommendations that aren't stupidly overpriced are also welcome)

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:54 (five months ago) link

currently jamming the 10/19/73 Oklahoma "Eyes Of The World"

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:55 (five months ago) link

my current Help/Slip/Franklin favs are 5/9/77 and 6/9/77

a (waterface), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 12:24 (five months ago) link

A lot of Deadheads say that 5/9/77 is better than the previous night (Barton Hall).

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 12:25 (five months ago) link

i've def spent more time with 5/9

a (waterface), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 12:29 (five months ago) link

so J Sam can you recommend some fave good-sounding shows from, say, each year of the 70s? I am looking for a nice Help/Slip/Franklin in particular but I love all yr recommendations so far

― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Monday, May 29, 2023 9:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Oh hell yeah, will do this in a bit!

J. Sam, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 13:37 (five months ago) link

Those collections have become pretty stupid expensive. These regular live releases seem to be not crazy expensive looking through eBay.

Hundred Year Hall (awesome The Other One)
Two from the Vault (68 show, well recorded for time)
One from the Vault (75)
Ladies and Gentleman the Grateful Dead (72 tour)
Fillmore West 1969

Dicks Picks vol 2 - single disc but good dark star

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 16:16 (five months ago) link

A lot of Deadheads say that 5/9/77 is better than the previous night (Barton Hall).

It rules, esp the H>S>F. Am all-timer.

tobo73, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 17:31 (five months ago) link

I haven’t found a H/S/F more to my liking than One From the Vault. It’s so tight and energetic, they seem to be audibly happy to be back from hiatus.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 21:18 (five months ago) link

A lot of Deadheads say that 5/9/77 is better than the previous night

oh man this rules, thanks all

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:30 (five months ago) link

excellent, I actually need to listen to that myself.

I haven’t found a H/S/F more to my liking than One From the Vault. It’s so tight and energetic, they seem to be audibly happy to be back from hiatus.

I love this one so much. The way the intro gives way to the song is A+ Dead.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 00:03 (five months ago) link

I remember walking into the GAMH for the first time for Wilco in ‘96 or 97, and being pretty amazed at what a cool room it is and of course how much that ‘75 show must have ruled (I assume PF have always been too big to have played there? Would have ruled obv).

I remember reading somewhere that the GAMH show was mostly for industry types to hype a release?

tobo73, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 02:20 (five months ago) link

Dick's Picks #4 is pretty good it comes from May 70 and has them stretching out a few numbers to 1/2 hour length.
I think DP8 is also from May 70 which I think is a peak month for them that year. Not sure how great it is in comparison to 4 but should be worth hearing. I never got it but always meant to.

I do enjoy them in August 68 which is when Two From The Vault comes from and also the bonus tracks on the Golden Road version of Anthem of The Sun. I think its a peak for a certain sound they had. The band themselves were apparently far from happy with where they were at the time since they nearly fired Bob Weir and Pigpen right around then.

Stevo, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 09:29 (five months ago) link

I’m a big fan of the H/S/F on Dick’s Picks 3 - Kreutzmann and Hart get that one into an extra grooving rendition.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 12:43 (five months ago) link

The first set on 3/24/73 (The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA) is really great, starting with The Race is On.

I've always liked Row Jimmy for a slow Dead song, but it's really been killing me lately. I find myself humming/singing the "ever since they tore the jukebox down" section all the freakin' time now, lol.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 1 June 2023 23:14 (five months ago) link

I probably have more tolerance for Playing in the Band than the average listener, but the middle jams of these Spring 1973 versions are really so much fun to get lost in.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:30 (five months ago) link

Recommend divks picks 5, 1979, weird electric slow versions

calstars, Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:44 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

put a random 76 show (LA 10/15/76) on and was pretty surprised at how great it went front to back - stellar closing run of He's Gone/Drums/Other One/Comes a Time/Franklin's/Sugar Magnolia. Crowd was going absolutely bonkers for the final two.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:11 (four months ago) link

It's hard to go wrong with any show in 73/74, but for more Dick's Picks check out 19 (10/19/73), 12 (6/26 & 6/28/74), and 31 (8/4 - 8/6/74)

Don't think I'd ever listened to DP31 (8/4 - 8/6/74) ... just 10 minutes into the opening Playing, absolutely sick. Feel like Keith's keys have way more reverb than usual, sounds great. We'll see if I make it through 4+ hrs.

Had started DP7 and had to turn it off because the drums seemed mixed waaaay more up front than I rememeber.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:45 (four months ago) link

man those 76 show can be great. check 10-15 at the Shrine

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 21 July 2023 21:42 (four months ago) link

oh ha that's the one you're listening to

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 21 July 2023 21:42 (four months ago) link


since there's some 74 talk, too. I'll stump for Dave's Picks Vol. 34 (June 23, 1974), which was one of the first Dead shows I really clicked with. It also has the bonus of being recorded at a Jai Alai Fronton so the album art incorporates appropriate sports imagery.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 21 July 2023 21:47 (four months ago) link

^^^^ fantastic release, I think the night before another top-tier release, DP12. Another comp that gets lost in the shuffle is Road Trips Vol 2 #3, which is a best-of from three June '74 shows and is essential listening if you like that sound ... basically like new 2nd versions of all the DP12 stuff + a 30min Playing tacked on. I wonder if they found a mixing/recording sweet spot around then – a lot of these shows have a shared sound venue to venue on recording, maybe the most neutral they ever sounded?

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Sunday, 23 July 2023 15:47 (four months ago) link

Something small (1hr of mindless tagging) but really consequential in my GD listening habits via streaming from Apple Music finding a way to force a UI where I could easily see ALL of their live releases ordered chronologically, something I had 20 years ago with a finely-metatagged mp3 file collection that sits on some external hard drives I will never touch again.

I'm sure there's a simpler way, but I ended up:
- adding all live albums / comps into one single playlist folder
- manually changing the metadata year to the year it was played (comps listed as something like "2022")
- Set View to Albums
- Sort by Artist - Year - Ascending
- Let the warm wash of calmness wash over you as you browse

In Apple Music, it's ~115 live albums total (missing stuff like Dave's Picks, but lots of random releases as well ... I also left like 15 of the Europe '72 releases because I simply don't need that much choice, like 5-7 is enough). It's made browsing so enjoyable – and for the first time in the streaming era, I feel like I can browse through as I would've on iTunes in 2008, which is all I want! – that I ended up doing the same for a bunch of other live music that I like to browse by year/era (Miles Davis, Zappa, JGB, Phish). It also makes it pain-free to just line up all the Dark Stars or Playings, or search for a song, sort by year, and just plow through some '77 Dancings or w/e.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Sunday, 23 July 2023 16:14 (four months ago) link

I don't spend a lot of time in the Vince era, but giving 10/14/94 at MSG a shot right now and it's surprisingly good. A short 50-minute first set that is really well paced, love the sleazy "West L.A. Fadeaway". But it's all about the massive "Scarlet > Fire" to kick off these second set, nearly a half hour long and about as inspired jamming I've heard from '94. I also like the jam out of "Corrina" that sets up "Drums > Space".

Shame about that "Samba" that got dropped in there though, it's rough even by that song's standards.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 August 2023 16:44 (three months ago) link

I have been naming the Album Name for live albums as "Year-Month-Day - Album Name" since I started collecting bootlegs so they always order appropriately on digital platforms.


yo la dieng-o (fionnland), Friday, 4 August 2023 16:56 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I’m currently seeing my second Dead cover band in a week. I think I may have finally succumbed.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 20 August 2023 19:31 (three months ago) link

One of us, one of us!

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 20 August 2023 20:52 (three months ago) link

There's (or was) a whole festival of Dead tribute bands in Ventura, CA. I always enjoy going to this divey place in Pasadena that does "Dead Night" once a month. Through strange circumstances, one of the best bands to ever play that place later opened for Vampire Weekend at the Hollywood Bowl. Blew my mind.

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Sunday, 20 August 2023 21:01 (three months ago) link

Any chance that was Taper's Choice? Not exactly a Dead tribute band, but jam adjacent and Vampire Weekend's Chris Tomson is a member...

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 August 2023 15:30 (three months ago) link

MaresNest, Friday, 25 August 2023 15:11 (three months ago) link

that's honestly a really fun game to play along with imo

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 25 August 2023 15:29 (three months ago) link

I love how they can't help but get into that Sugar Magnolia.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:30 (three months ago) link

Maxmillion: not Taper's Choice, but I have seen them too. This was Richard's Pictures.

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Sunday, 27 August 2023 05:44 (three months ago) link

listening to 10/28/79 at Cape Cod this morning, not sure how I'd missed this one until now, it's a pretty hot show and one of those where the first set damn near bests the second set. you know you are in for a treat when the first set opens with a 12-minute "Half Step" into an 18-minute "Franklin's". the outro jam on the set 1 closing "TMNS" is fire too.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 15:19 (two months ago) link

lol that's about 50% more "Franklin" than I need! I did listen to set one this morning, Jerry starts creaky but warms up. Good setlist, nice "Althea."

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:26 (two months ago) link

yeah it's a lot of "Fraklin's" but I think it's 100% justified

the second set "China > Rider" is worth it for the Phil bombz and when Bobby mistakenly tries to steal Jerry's "I wish I was a headlight" verse

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:40 (two months ago) link

79 fall tour is pretty great, I've always been partial to 10/31/79 Nassau Collisium.

BrianB, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 22:55 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

dipping into some '83 shows - an absolutely unhinged Jerry performance on "New Minglewood Blues" from 9/2/83 went waaaay beyond my expectations.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 01:02 (one month ago) link

Yeah, that was a surprisingly decent show when it came out as a Dave's Pick a few years ago, I dug large parts of it. Although I always laughed when Phil opened the show with his, "Citizens of Boise, submit or perish – you are a conquered people" intonation and the band promptly launched into...... "Wang Dang Doodle".

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:28 (one month ago) link

Ha. I don’t think the dead doing WDD conquers anyone.

tobo73, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:41 (one month ago) link

xp i clipped that exact section afterwards!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:41 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

New to me, the "Dark Star" from 2/21/69 at the Dream Bowl. Really liking this version a lot, feels like one of the earliest versions where it feels like the entire band is locked into the improv.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 November 2023 22:02 (three weeks ago) link

Not the longest version, but nonetheless an epic, prismatic one.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:07 (three weeks ago) link

Thanks for this. I needed a good Dark Star>St. Stephen>The Eleven to lift my spirits. That last one is just so joyous to me.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:17 (three weeks ago) link

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