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With the odd notable exception like 'American Beauty', 'Anthem of the Sun' and a few other studio albums, the Grateful Dead have always been about live performance. It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense. And their live albums contain some extraordinary music (as well as some dodgier moments).

But there's just so much of it out there. By my reckoning they released eight regular live albums during the life of the band, but since then the floodgates have opened. There are now 29 Dick's Picks releases, most of them triple CDs, and about a dozen other albums like One/Two From The Vaults, Ladies & Gentlemen, Hundred Year Hall, The Phil Zone etc.

So, what have you heard and what do you like? Are there particular periods (the 80s?) that are no-go areas? Is it only worth bothering with stuff from 68-71?

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

You've obviously got to start with 'Live Dead'. I listened to it again over the weekend, and it still sounds extraordinary. There may be better versions of 'Dark Star' out there, but as the first one I heard it'll always be the definitive one for me.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

yes can we have some ans here. I need to know what to look out for!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been piling through a lot of my Dead live Cds/box sets over the last couple of weeks, but I still feel like I'm only scratching the surface. I've got several thoughts about it, but for the moment I'll just say:
1) I've not heard a version of 'Dark Star' that isn't awesome.
2) The quality of the version of a song bears no relation to how good the jamming is going to be after it (i.e. ignore the ropey vocals, there's some good stuff coming along in a minute).
3) Brent Mydland. Oh dear.
4) Donna Godchaux. Oh dear, oh dear.
5) They were something fucking special around 68-71. I feel like trying to pick up every single thing that's been released from this period.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

search: the dead from 1973-74. totally at the top of their game during this period.

chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Reckoning -- The traditional "Live" album for LP release. Quiet, crisp performances. No flubs, all first rate versions, and a pleasure to listen to throughout. 9.6

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it? 9.4

Nightfall of Diamonds -- Winterland, 10/10/89 -- Great sound; a bit noodley in places, but right nice. 8.6

Dick's Picks #8 -- Harpur College, 5/02/70 -- Three-Quarters of this is impeccable; good form, nice song selection - one disc acoustic, one disc electric, and one disc rave-ups (i don't much care for their R&B covers like "Dancing in the Streets" and "It's A Man's Man's Man's World"). 8.5

Ladies & Gentleman... The Grateful Dead -- Filmore East, April 1971 -- A good listen, but it delves a bit too much into the Helter Skelter for strict listening. Works better as background -- but is noteworthy for the block of Pigpen's blues numbers. 7.8

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Harpur College

my alma mater! (aka "the liberal arts college of SUNY Binghamton")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I've heard a good bit of Dead over the years, and own a fair amount of albums. I second Dick's Pick's Four... the best album I've heard from them. Live/Dead is of course essential, and I think Europe '72 is as well. It was the first Dead record I bought. It's from a bunch of shows from their Europe '72 tour which is among their very best tours (many would say there best. It's there last tour with Pigpen and their first with Keith). It contains little jamming (disk two has some) and was mainly released because the songs on there had yet to be put to vinyl. It was also a bit touched up in the studio, I believe. I know they recently released another cd from that tour, as well as an expanded Europe '72, though I don't think I've heard either, I believe they're quite good as well.


One From the Vault is strong, too. It's from '75, and was from one of two shows celebrating the release of Blues for Allah. It contains every song from that album (in a better version)--including the title track which is, unfortunately, a total dud, IMO (though I'm hardly alone). The Dead didn't tour in '75 or '76, but this is a strong performance though not essential.


I agree on 68-71 being strong. But so is the Europe '72 tour - 74.Dick's Pick's 12 features the quite famous "Mind Left Body" jam as well as the glorious return of "China Cat Sunflower" to their catalogue.


Pretty much all of '77 is great. 5-8-77 Cornell is their most frequently bootlegged show, and thus essential, though not their best performance. It shouldn't be hard to find. '78 is good too, and then they hit a lull.


I believe it's '83 that I've heard good things about, but I've never taken the time to investigate. '78 was the last time they released a studio album until '87, so I kind of avoid it. In '87 bounced back from a heroin-induced coma, and the band was strong again so I'd seek out some stuff from this era too.


Hope this helped a little. I also have to highly recommend the Jerry Garcia Band (which is mostly just a cover band) release Don't Let Go from '75 with Keith on acoustic piano. It's a very tight, mellow session. With only one guitar in there, you can really hear how good of a guitarist Jerry was when he was on.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

The other thing about '77 is that it's when they became really, really funky. That's why it's so popular. And as usual, when they were on--which was often that year--they were really on. Many would say it's their best year, and I agree it's definitely one of them.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

''Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).''

will do

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

apologies for the faulty spacing there...

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it?

You can still get any of the Dick's Picks from the Dead's own site (gdstore.com). DP4 is $21 plus postage.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

No shit? I've been looking for a "gift" copy for years -- Thanks, JB.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

The new Dick's Picks 39 is a six-disc set of two 1977 shows.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoops, that's 29.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

The thing with a lot of live Dead stuff is that even the better gigs have a lot of average stuff on them, but they're worth hearing for the moments where the inspiration hits and they really take off.

So I don't know why they don't release more albums that take stuff from a variety of performances (and eras), cherry-picking the really juicy tracks. 'The Phil Zone' is a good example of this - it's got a great range of stuff, even some not-bad performances from the late 80s. And it's got an absolutely monster version of 'Hard to Handle', which not only rocks like a bastard, it's from an audience tape so you can hear everybody going mental as they crank it up.

(I also wish you could hear more audience on a lot of the Dick's Picks. They capture the music well, but not always the whole occasion. OK, I know they're mostly taken from the mixing desk so maybe that's not possible.)

Aaron or chaki - could you recommend any good Dick's Picks from 73-4 or 77?

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been meaning to contribute to this thread, but I wanted to wait for a free moment to audition a bunch of my stuff again. One good thing this thread has done is get me to finally listen to the package of Dick's Picks I got a couple months ago but hadn't listened to yet (well, I threw them when I got them but wasn't able to listen as closely as I'd like): 22 and 26. So far, 26 sounds great! A bunch of rare live Aoxomoxoa songs!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

#4 and #8 are my favorites (though i kinda stopped paying attention after 16 or so - not for lack of interest but lack of cash)

search GRAYFOLDED - Oswald's "plundering" of over 100 versions of Dark Star from 69-95. Essential drone

Anthem of the Sun and Live/Dead are pretty much perfect legit albums btw

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 July 2003 06:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I was thinking of getting 26, Mr D. The track listing looks very promising, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.

And I've just looked at the tracks for 22, that also looks tempting. I listened to Two From The Vaults over the weekend, from the same year (and with a similar set). There's something about the sound of the band/Garcia's guitar from that time (68/69). I can only describe it as having a lot more bite.

Completely agree with you roger about Live/Dead - that's the benchmark for me, both the version of Dark Star and the album as a whole.

I was surprised the first time I heard Grayfolded how 'ordinary' a lot of it sounded i.e. not ordinary as such but just like a great extended version of Dark Star, the first CD at least. The vocal 'swooshes' and 'folds' sound good though.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 7 July 2003 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

bump

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 10 July 2003 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

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James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Revive, please.

Just listening to vol 12's lovely version of China Cat Sunflower, as mentioned above by Aaron M.

Any new opinions?

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like #16. I feel like the only Dead I ever buy is stuff from 68-70. I just saw #4 at a store and it looks great, after reading this I've decided I need it. Hundred Year Hall is a great set and I enjoy a lot more than the Europe 72 album, which I think sounds kind of neutered. There is a lot of inspired jamming and an absolutely beautiful Pigpen vocal on "Two Souls in Communion." I haven't listened to it in years, though, since my copy was stolen. I have a hard time buying Grateful Dead discs sometimes, although I have no problem listening to them.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Closing of Winterland looks promising.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
the dvd? it's fucking awesome! Possibly my favorite music DVD ever!

i'm too tired to elaborate, but if you consider that Neil Young has Candian citizenship, and if you exclude the American contingent of Fleetwood Mac at their absolute peak, The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time.

Trux and the Drive By Truckers are tied for me personally, but we're looking through history's lens here, people. The Dead. the fucking DEAD!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I spent last weekend listening to Ladies and Gentlemen... the Grateful Dead, that 4cd set that Arista put out a couple years back. Fucking PRIME '71 era shit. Absolutely G=god-like. Rog, you gotta get that one if ya don't have it...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, I really want to see this..

http://usa.festivalexpress.com/

I do have to admit, I didn't get that excited about Closing of Winterland though. THen again, I watched it at like 3 in the morning a couple months ago when I was pretty wiped out. I'll give it another go.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm a ridiculous Godchaux apologist, FWIW.

haven't tracked down that Arista set - 71, eh? I'm more a 72-77 kinda guy, but will check it out - thanks!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, a 72-77 guy! I'm impressed. I'm still trying to get with the Godchaux era. I think it will come to me in due time. Do you have that One From the Vault? That one's pretty good, as I recall.

Yeah, the Ladies and Gentlemen thing is '71 but it's pretty song-oriented. Sort of midway between the psychedelic blow-outs and the Europe '72 stuff. It's a nice, pleasant listen. GREAT version of "Bird Song".

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

im a 73 guy and yah the new dvd is great!!

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, fuck it, Chaki I trust you.. I will watch it again!! It just kind of seemed goofy to me. With the whole dude riding in on a joint at the beginning of the concert. Like, you almost want to shake Bill Graham and the Dead and say, "the 60's are OVER!! Didn't you guys watch 'gimme shelter'??" Plus, the Godchaux. And "Fire on the Mountain" goes on entirely too long. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Dead, don't get me wrong, but that 'FOTM' just goes on too long, sorry. But I will check it out again, as I said...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmm.. I just started watching it again, midway through the set. You know what? This version of "Friend of the Devil" is really kind of beautiful! Even Donna is kind of endearing right here! Mea culpa.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"Even Donna" - wtf?

Donna was probably just as proficient a musician as Phil Lesh (making her twice as proficient as Bob Weir) and an all around great, great vocalist. Her live performances were hit and miss due to lack of proper monitor support, everyone knows that.

She never gets a fair shake. It's not like she was Linda McCartney fer chrissakes.

The Godchauxes broght so much life (not to mention a a very vital jazz-informed musical eloquence) to The Dead. I love Pigpen and Mydland as much as the nxt guy, but the 70s are where it's AT because of Keith and Donna!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Disk one of Vol. 23 rules. I have to admit, though, that the "China Cat Sunflower" / "I Know You Rider" medley gets sooo tiresome after listening to Dick's Picks.

Rocking the Rhein is good stuff as well.

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

the "Dark Star" on Rockin' the Rhein is eyeball-melting

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I bought Dick's Picks 22 on a fleeting whim a few days ago.
I'm a little regretful of it now.
Feb '68 show at a Lake Tahoe bowling alley. Vocals are rarely audible (which I guess isn't always a bad thing, har har).
Now I'm wanting Rockin the Rhein.
I think I need a break from the Dead.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I just listened to Reckoning this past Friday night. Always a treat to pull that one out.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

'Two From the Vault' is v.good...it's mastered or mixed really well for headphones. And at the end of 'Morning Dew' the house pulls the electricity from them, great moment.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense."

Au contraire. Au contraire.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time."

i take umbrage with this comment.
and so would CCR.

me rawk.
you snow.

eedd, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Regarding my last post, in case it's not clear, I mean to say that they SUCK LIVE. I don't get it.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link


Blues for Allah is the best thing they ever did, according to me

Help/Slip/Frank rules

Jackson, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Donna's "soulful" scream at the end of "Scarlet Begonias" on Dick's Picks 7 is the most out-of-key singing I've heard on an officially released record.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently there's a letter to the editor in the new Arthur from me regarding The Dead, but i haven't seen it. i can't get it here

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
HELP - I'm visiting a well-stocked Deadhead (over 300 shows) who has kindly offered to let me borrow whatever I want from his stash - any suggestions as to what I shld look out for - keep in mind that I generally prefer Dead Stuff w/ LOTS of guitar solos, the freakier the better, and am less concerned abt 'songs' per se

Thank You

Uncle John, Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just got this Jerry Garcia Band 3-CD Kean College set from 1980 that Rhino put out last fall. S'good! I'm just a dabbler in the Dead, but this is close to perfect -- nice sparse 4-piece, warmly recorded, the grooves don't overwhelm the songs and vice-versa -- I mean, the grooves are songlike, and the songs are groovelike. And maybe because he doesn't have to work to make himself heard, Jerry's playing is even more loose and gentle than usual. The solos are like barstool conversations. I think I'm going to be listening to this a lot.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 9 January 2005 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yah that shit kicks ass

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
May check out that Jerry band thing. Has anyone heard the No. 29 6CD thing from '77? Curious about that as well.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

One more chance at an answer re No. 29. I orderd the Jerry Band thing yesterday.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Dick's Picks #8 -- Harpur College, 5/02/70 -- Three-Quarters of this is impeccable; good form, nice song selection - one disc acoustic, one disc electric, and one disc rave-ups (i don't much care for their R&B covers like "Dancing in the Streets" and "It's A Man's Man's Man's World"). 8.5

Listened to a lot of this on my commute this morning and it's great! I don't think I had ever heard live acoustic dead from that era before. A highlight of the electric portion for me is Viola Lee Blues

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 6 September 2019 19:32 (two months ago) link

I've been trying to spend some time with Cornell 77, but I still struggle with how almost supernaturally clean it sounds. Maybe that's part of the appeal, but I still prefer the grit of the earlier shows. 70-74 is my sweet spot. Obviously some of the performances on Cornell 77 are very good and the sound quality is great, but I still find something about it a little offputting.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:40 (two months ago) link

Meanwhile, been really enjoying Dicks Picks 28 - Lincoln NE and Salt Lake City UT 1973, and also Roosevelt Stadium 1974.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:42 (two months ago) link

I love Playing in the Band so much.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:42 (two months ago) link

DiP 28 is so great. That was the first "Eyes" I heard, and it's got one of my fave "Dark Star"s, where Kreutzman just keeps the momentum going through the whole thing (akin to the 8/27/72 Veneta, OR "Dark Star").

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:08 (two months ago) link

I think 77 is a bit over-celebrated due to the number of good recordings that have been circulating for a long time, way before the internet. Cornell is definitely over-hyped but there's no denying they were playing clean and tight that year. quite possibly their cleanest and tightest year, maybe alongside 72. Recordings from 78 are also super clean but they begin to slow things down and the cleanliness begins to approach a really thin sound (lack of reverb maybe?) that I find grating.

tobo73, Friday, 13 September 2019 18:17 (two months ago) link

hmm that's an interesting sort of historiographical (if that's the right word) point. I wonder if there were some significant advances in portable taping tech around that time.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:20 (two months ago) link

Fwiw I’ve read that once Dan Healy took over (not sure exactly when that was), he didn’t pay a ton of attn to the soundboard mix. That’s why the soundboards from 82 and 83 and 84 haven’t been released much. He is also blamed for turning Bobby’s guitar way down in the mix.

Those 77s tend to be credited to Betty Cantor, who maybe was more careful about mixing the soundboard for the purposes of replay at home.

I’ve always wondered about how they mix the drums in the 80s and beyond. The hi-hats are way too loud and the snares sounds like crap. Heard the 91 RFK show on Sirius yesterday and it sounds like the snares are on another stage. I don’t have the technical expertise to say why that is.

tobo73, Friday, 13 September 2019 18:28 (two months ago) link

That’s why the soundboards from 82 and 83 and 84 haven’t been released much.

Also, they stopped using reel-to-reel tapes around 1979, so the majority of early/mid-'80s soundboard recordings were made on hissy cassettes.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:33 (two months ago) link

weren't they also mostly playing bigger venues in the 80s or at least in the 90s? That could impact sound a lot.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:14 (two months ago) link

the mixing itself on Cornell 77 is admittedly kind of incredible. Can't think of another live recording that sounds like that.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:15 (two months ago) link

Yes to your point about larger venues.

They made lots of great recordings in 89/90 for Without a Net. I assume they were using better equipment and being more careful about it. I love the way those sound and the best may be Hamilton Ontario in March 90. The Scarlet/Fire from that show made it to the big retrospective box set they released a few years ago.

tobo73, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:27 (two months ago) link

that isolated bob video is awesome

flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 05:43 (one month ago) link

This is most likely a long shot, but are there any recordings out there that have a particular atmosphere from the floor that give you an idea of the sound/power of the crazy wall-of-sound PA system?

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:25 (one month ago) link

I've not heard these myself, but some wall-centric suggestions from the ever-enthusiastic Grateful Dead Listening Guide: Call of the Wall.

blatherskite, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:24 (one month ago) link

getting pretty into '78 & '79 right now. playing-wise they're in a relaxed zone a lot of the time (even though I gather that these are heavy cocaine years, and certainly Bob's vocals get pretty excitable on e.g. "Samson & Delilah") and Jerry's starting to mess with his filters in a way that lots of people hate but that I dig. The new Dave's Picks (Chicago '79) is pretty great until they get to Drums/Space which is pretty uninspired but Fire/Samson/Terrapin/Playin' form an amazing arc on this show

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:31 (one month ago) link

I saw them only once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6HNV7AqFvs

My friends halfheartedly tried to get tickets for the second day but we ended up riding the good vibes of day 1 into the next day relaxing... We weren't deadheads but were seeing 5+ live music shows a week at this point so it was nice to have a baseline of Jerry-era Dead to compare to all the more avant/sophisto/anti/absurdist things that were going on.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 23:41 (one month ago) link

thought the bump would be about robert hunter

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 02:00 (one month ago) link

ok, the soundboard "seastones" that i've heard have always sounded like just the most awful crap, but i'm listening to the 1974-06-23 aud and i'm actually feeling the wall of sound from this. any other AUD tapes from this year that have some good "seastones"?

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 02:23 (one month ago) link

9/11/74

'phil and ned' into seastones is quite bonkers. some of the most far out stuff i've heard from them

https://archive.org/details/gd1974-09-11.sbd.unknown.4647.shnf

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 02:54 (one month ago) link

xxp Yes, the lack of mention here about Robert Hunter's passing is surprising. His lyrics were the source of most Dead epigrams. RIP, RH.

doug watson, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:38 (one month ago) link

We've been talking about it in the Robert Hunter thread.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:49 (one month ago) link

OPO: Robert Hunter lyric

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:49 (one month ago) link

ah, thanks!

doug watson, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:53 (one month ago) link

man i tried that 1974-09-11 phil and ned -> seastones and it didn't grab me, either atonal wank or just bad space.

liked the eyes->dirt->space after it though, not a big eyes fan but thought that was a good one

next i think i'll start going through headyversion and exploring some wharf rats

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:21 (one month ago) link

5/28/77 is THE Wharf Rat imo, and 77 is far from my favorite year

J. Sam, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:53 (one month ago) link

Was just listening to Dicks Picks 20, September 25, 1976 at the Capital Centre. That's a nice laid back little show, at least until Lazy Lightning, which I can't get through.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:11 (one month ago) link

I've always thought Lazy Lightning sounds like the theme song to a mid-60s sit-com

tobo73, Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:35 (one month ago) link

hartford 1977-05-28 is nice (also not a '77 head), i didn't know donna could sing! also liking red rocks 1978-07-08.

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:51 (one month ago) link

I listened to the first disc of Three from the Vault thinking about Robert Hunter last night. It's from the Capitol Theatre in Feb 1971. One of these days I need to check out the New Riders of the Purple Sage recording with Jerry on pedal steel from the same shows.

earlnash, Thursday, 26 September 2019 01:56 (one month ago) link

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The world will never know what that album would have sounded like, but we do have a tantalizing idea thanks to a new collection curated by the band’s archivist David Lemieux. READY OR NOT features nine unreleased live versions of late-period Grateful Dead songs that debuted in 1992 and 1993. The collection’s tracklist reflects what might have been the band’s next official studio album following Built to Last.

READY OR NOT will be released on November 22 on CD, digital download, streaming, and as a 180-gram 2-LP set, limited to 10,000 copies. Dead.net will offer an exclusive coloured vinyl version of the 2-LP set with one red LP and one blue LP, limited to 2,000 copies. “Lazy River Road” live from Chapel Hill, North Carolina on March 25, 1993, is available now digitally.

“Ready Or Not has been a long time coming. It’s an album we've been working on for many, many years. This batch of ‘new’ Grateful Dead songs has never been compiled in one place and given its proper due as a huge part of the Dead's late-era legacy,” says Lemieux. “Many of these songs can easily stand alongside some of the Dead's oldest, most-loved songs as bona fide classics despite their short tenure in the repertoire. We've dug deep into the archive and listened to countless live versions of these songs to find the best, most definitive live performances. When the Grateful Dead were ‘on’ in their later years, their live concerts were as good as any era in their history. The nine songs on Ready Or Not exemplify how good the Dead could be in their later years of touring.”

The collection focuses on the best unreleased live versions of these late-period gems, all mastered from the original digital soundboard tapes. Recorded live between 1992 and 1995, READY OR NOT spotlights performance by the final Grateful Dead lineup: Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and new keyboardist Vince Welnick.

Four of the album’s nine tracks originally debuted during a two-day period in February 1993, including “Lazy River Road,” “Liberty,” and “Eternity,” a song that Weir wrote with Rob Wasserman and blues legend Willie Dixon. Another was “Days Between.” This grand and achingly nostalgic Robert Hunter and Garcia composition closes the album with a version that was recorded in December 1994 at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum.

Hunter – who worked mainly with Garcia – began writing with Weir again during this period. Two of their collaborations are featured on READY OR NOT: “Corinna” and “Easy Answers.” The album also includes “Samba In the Rain,” a song by Welnick that features Hunter’s lyrics. The album’s two remaining songs – “Way To Go Home” and “So Many Roads” – made their live debut in February 1992, just a few months before the live versions included on READY OR NOT.

READY OR NOT

CD Track Listing

“Liberty” – Madison Square Garden, New York, NY (10/14/94)

“Eternity” – The Pyramid, Memphis, TN (4/2/95)

“Lazy River Road” – Dean Smith Center, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC (3/25/93)

“Samba In The Rain” – The Omni, Atlanta, GA (3/30/95)

“So Many Roads” – Star Lake Amphitheatre, Burgettstown, PA (6/23/92)

“Way To Go Home” – Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN (6/28/92)

“Corrina” – Madison Square Garden, New York, NY (10/14/94)

“Easy Answers” – Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (9/13/93)

“Days Between” – Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, Oakland, CA (12/11/94)

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:04 (one month ago) link

Interesting concept, but I'm now on Archive listening to "Samba" (a song no one ever liked) in the echoey Omni and it's dreadful, sorry.

A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:43 (one month ago) link

In slightly more exciting news (and far better artwork), Dave's Picks 32 will be 3/24/73 at The Spectrum.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:14 (one month ago) link

I don’t get why anyone would spend $$ on that collection of new songs. If you really need to hear them they are widely available online. And several of those songs are undeniably terrible. I guess it’s cheap to produce and see who bites?

tobo73, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:04 (one month ago) link

aside from "days between" (and maybe "so many roads") this stuff isn't very good ... and sometimes it's very bad!

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:22 (one month ago) link

In slightly more exciting news (and far better artwork), Dave's Picks 32 will be 3/24/73 at The Spectrum.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 1:14 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh HELL yeah, this show has my favorite version of He's Gone, among numerous early 73 highlights

J. Sam, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:06 (one month ago) link

its a stone cold classic, for the Phil solo alone

tobo73, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:10 (one month ago) link

that ready or not album art... yikes

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Fjq0-8DUL.jpg

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:15 (one month ago) link

hahaha

https://i.imgur.com/jTSYC5q.jpg

That's much better.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:24 (one month ago) link

yeah reminds me of the other DP with the aliens. the one with the 'close encounters' intro to st stephen. still love that one

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:23 (one month ago) link

i didn't know donna could sing!

I once mistook her for Kate Bush when a housemate was playing a Dead show

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:26 (one month ago) link

DaP 23! Eugene 1/22/78! One of my favorite entries in the series.

(xpost)

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:38 (one month ago) link

I once mistook her for Kate Bush when a housemate was playing a Dead show

― sleeve

ts: donna's version of "babooshka" versus her version of "escape (the pina colada song)"

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:49 (one month ago) link

Lol

Beware of Mr. Blecch, er...what? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:50 (one month ago) link

Those were good. I loved the 19 cover with the wheat field.

My unofficial ranking of the Dick's art:
lightning bolt (19-24)
tape box (1-6)
mailers (26-30)
cosmic moving fractals (31-36)
fractals (13-18)
one off Dick plaque (25)
flying carpet (7-12)

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:59 (one month ago) link

Agreed!

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 15:33 (one month ago) link

four weeks pass...

The new Dave's Picks 32 confirming that there are still loads of great '73 shows to be mined. You know it's a good show when Phil pretty much nails the "Box of Rain" vocals.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 November 2019 16:39 (one week ago) link

My parents were at the vol 24 show. It was their wedding night.

brimstead, Saturday, 9 November 2019 05:31 (six days ago) link

haven't gotten to it yet but 30 from earlier this year fuckin knocked me over. one of the best shows ever.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:16 (six days ago) link


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