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Tell us what you most like about this DAVID BOWIE LP.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Garson's piano playing, obv.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

The way such a brilliant album ends with such a strange but florid headscratcher as "Lady Grinning Soul."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Either that stunningly campy cover of "Let's Spend The Night Together", or all those great Ronson-powered rockers ("Watch That Man", "Cracked Actor" etc.)

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

THE PIANO THE PIANO THE PIANO

(It is also the best Bowie album, in my opinion)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

tie: a) guitar riff on "Panic in Detroit", third-best air-guitar riff of the 1970s; b) the existence of a glam-rock song about Jean Genet

Neudonym, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"Shakey threw a party that lasted all night
Everybody drank a lot of something nice
There was an old fashioned band of married men
Looking up to me for encouragement
- it was so-so

The ladies looked bad but the music was sad
No one took their eyes off Lorraine
She shimmered and she strolled like a Chicago moll
Her feathers (leathers?) looked better and better
- it was so-so

Yea! it was time to unfreeze
When the Reverend Alabaster danced on his knees
Slam! so it wasn't a game
Cracking all the mirrors in shame

Watch that man! Oh honey, watch that man
He talks like a jerk but he could eat you with a fork and spoon
Watch that man! Oh honey, watch that man
He walks like a jerk but he's only taking care of the room
Must be in tune

A Benny Goodman fan painted holes in his hands
So Shakey hung him up to dry
The pundits were joking, the manholes were smoking
And every bottle battled with the reason why

The girl on the phone wouldn't leave me alone
A throwback from someone's LP
A lemon in a bag played the Tiger Rag
And the bodies on the screen stopped bleeding

Yeah! I was shaking like a leaf
For I couldn't understand the conversation
Yeah! I ran to the street, looking for information"

And that's just side one, track one.

>guitar riff on "Panic in Detroit", third-best air-guitar riff of the 1970s

After what, "Rebel, Rebel" and "Hang On To Yourself"?

>Garson's piano playing

Ick, scales-a-go-gone. Rick Wakeman did a much better job on "Hunky Dory" (to say nothing of Ronson on "Ziggy").

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i like the alt. cover shot from the re-release
where his eyes are open.
had a mad bowie 3 month phase this year
as i yammered on about across numerous threads, but
one thing i was wowed by is that the earlier pre
-ronson 'prettiest star'is better than the 1973 version.
who knew ?
it really is good.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Ick, scales-a-go-gone. Rick Wakeman did a much better job on "Hunky Dory"

I have to agree on this one. I don't mind Garson's piano work, I should say (and I always liked the fact that he reemerged in the nineties), but Wakeman's list of grotesque musical crimes is at once redeemed and banished thanks to what he does on "Life on Mars?" alone.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

A Lad From Spain (couldn't find the cover)
http://www.dr.dk/dr2/tema/grafik/latinoboelgen2.jpg

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll be honest with you Pinefox. What I liked most about this record when I first heard it was the very clear and decadent enunciation of the word "wanking".

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

ned's use of the word "alone" is damning but i think korrekt

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

surely the Cecil Taylor move on "Aladdin Sane (1913-1938-197?)" is not merely "scales". although I could do without the Gershwin quote.

guitar riff on "Panic in Detroit", third-best air-guitar riff of the 1970s

So good that Blue Oyster Cult stole it for "Astronomy"!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

But Ronson didn't mind as he stole it from Bo Diddley.

But capital-C Classic, Bowie's best LP, Garson is perfect, etc. One of the first LPs I bought and I still have that 30-year old slab of wax.

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Not very interesting, but I like "Panic in Detroit" a lot, but not too much else on it.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

ok i like this record lots obv and garson = a god and etc etc etc

BUT

isn't it like really REALLY badly produced in places?

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Which places other than 'Watch that man'?

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link

i forget, i'll have to listen again

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Do!

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I always thought "Watch That Man" was one of his great productions--the chicks in the background would be my answer to the original question here (that is, if I was answering this in 1973).

scott woods (s woods), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

"watch that man"'s production is tops!

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

backing vocals on Drive in Saturday

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"Drive in Saturday" is gorgeous, as is the whole LP and original packaging. Definately one of Bowie's best.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

better than Lodger that's for sure!

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Ick, scales-a-go-gone. Rick Wakeman did a much better job on "Hunky Dory"

outrageous ! as a teenager that piano solo converted me to a seeker out of what turned out to be avant-garde piano (classical, jazz and rock if i could find any)

i'd never heard anything like it in a rock song, and the closest i think i've heard since in rock would be keith tippett with king crimson (it's been hard to find rock music like that, and i didn't become a rick wakeman fan)

however it made me a fan of cecil taylor and his followers before i knew it, although it was easier to find stuff in the library like xenakis and stefan wolpe

what was a bit disappointing for me was that the album of the same name was so patchy, and wasn't full of similarly wacky piano, so "watch that man" and "cracked actor" got _musically_ obvious and boring pretty quickly ("watch that man" was good for the first couple of listens though, doing some sort of rhythmic odd-drop-in trick that "fooled me" i suppose)

the trick to this whole album for me though was that side two just didn't bear repeated listening, while side ones "drive in saturday" and "panic in detroit" became _more_ interesting, yet i eventually wore out the title track i knew the solo so well, so the whole thing is an annoying mix (for people like me who like to put on records and enjoy a whole side of music)

that title track piano keeps changing it's musical logic as though it was constantly unfolding or falling apart, crazy politics logic, the theme of the song itself, self-condemned decadence before the fall, which was what the song was about, right ? was that the place bowie was mentally he'd have us believe ? so as to place the album with all it's mock-auto-biographical artistry as so o.t.m. ? as to be right on the edge ? (with a title pun that's so knowingly dumb as to be outstanding and annoying and provocative, in a "watch _this_ man, what the _hell_ is he up to ?" way)

well maybe the album delivers as artistic statement because of all that swerve-iness, doubt, nostalgia, paranoia, acting cracked, z/iggy on the edge of (no-one knew what would happen next after all, nixon still president, bowie still "the great rock music saviour"), it's certainly a good place-holder for that elusive bowie substance that he managed to hold together to while wiggling about all over the map in the '70s -- maybe it's a bit like the beatles' "help !"

i like the cover too, noisy-rock-sci-fi self-created artist camping it up as the sound of a mutant marcel marceau from space

george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i think "lodger" is an interesting and similar "i admit this is a hollow shell" effort, this time using eno's all care & no responsibility recipes for a mish-mash -- there's that same artistic honesty to lodger, but it's "i admit i'm not even really here" this time ("i live in switzerland"), bowie inhabiting the body of a rock star in a different way now, less sci-fi/Martian, more art-crowd

"D.J" -- i'm just a crowd pleaser/entertainer -- i have to deliver for the fans sake -- my fans believe in my songs because they believe that the songs have an autobiographical element
"Boys Keep Swinging" -- i keep on ch-ch-changing
"Red Sails" -- i gotta get outta this place (i live in switzerland)
"Red Money" -- i pay tax in switzerland, good thing the whole world doesn't
"Fantastic Voyage" -- this has been a good ride for me, but my fans insist i deal with the issues that worry them, issues like the results of drug abuse and weapons of mass destruction
"Look back in Anger" -- yes, how did i get away with making so much money out of my songs from the '70s ? i wish i'd just joined a Kraut-rock band

.. with some "filler" location shoots and one-night-stands along the way, and maybe some accidental/subconscious w.s. burroughs "fold-ins"(references)

george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Wasn't the production on "Watch That Man" a nod to some of the work on "Exile On Main Street" with the vocal sounding like it's coming from another room?

But the record's a stunner from start to finish, with Garson's thrilling runs a reflection of the chaos inherent in the "Ziggy-in-America" conceit. However, the "bonus" disc that Capitol just released is superfluous to say the least, but I suppose that it works, considering I bought it again.

And did anyone see the pic of Homer Simpson with the thunderbolt from "Rolling Stone" a few months back? Classic.

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Millions weep a fountain!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/pb22bb58218d45b6d224d647ae829525b/fbd819e3.jpg

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Funniest goddamn picture ever!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

>Wasn't the production on "Watch That Man" a nod to some of the work on "Exile On Main Street" with the vocal sounding like it's coming from another room?

My dream Bowie album would be "Ziggy" with "Alladin Sane" production...imagine if "Suffragette City" had sounded like "Let's Spend the Night Together," or "Soul Love" like "Panic in Detroit."

PS I wish he'd included "Pin-Ups" as the bonus CD in the remaster, as I always thought of it as the veddy British antidote to the "Porn in the USA" vibes of the mothership.

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 07:00 (nineteen years ago) link

great album, though i found it a difficult one to grow into when i first heard it. (i first heard this album after hearing "Time" being performed on the '87 Glass Spider tour in Rotterdam, my first concert ever) that piano in the title song freaked me out! now it's chickenskin every time i hear it. (esp. when that piano solo comes down to earth towards the end: great transition)

willem (willem), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 07:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I really love Drive in Saturday and Panic in Detroit, both mentioned already. Not sure I can put my finger on why, something to do with the atmosphere pervading them maybe? I like the way the LP changes moods but still seems to fit together. The only thing I'm not keen on is some of the saxophone parts, but hey, what can you do.

alext (alext), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

IMO the 30th anniversary reissue is worth getting hold of (its only £12.99 from CD-WOW! after all) for a few reasons, amongst them the essay in the booklet which covers stuff like the reason for the low vocal mix on Watch That Man, how Garson came up with *that* solo, etc. and some of the tracks on CD2, best of which are Bowie's version of All The Young Dudes (with disconcerting sax hook) & the live solo acoustic version of Drive In Saturday.

The cover certainly inspired the 16 year old me when it first came out, sparking my brief going out in make up period, although I didn't have the bottle for the full on lightning flash.


P F I hope you got full value out of all your birthday presents!

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

The reissue is also the first CD I have been aware of buying with a "Copy Control" sticker on it. What happens to your PC if you try to copy it? What happens if you try to copy it in a twin deck CD recorder?

Naively,

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there going to be a stateside version of the new reissue? If so, that one probably wont be copy-protected.

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

This was playing in a book shop I was in yesterday. Mike Garson's piano on the title track sounded great as usual. Didn't look to see if it was driving anyone out of the shop, but it struck me as being more 'out there' than usual shop fare.

As a youngster I used to try and imagine what it would sound like if Mike Garson swapped places with Mike Barson (of Madness). Slight contrast in styles.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't know that such a powerful consensus existed on the quality and interest of the title track's piano. It is something which has struck me in my first few listens, in any case. It reminded at times me of Peter-John Vettese.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link

So, what exactly was added to the reissue to puff it up to 2-CDs...and is it worth getting (the reissue) for the extras?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I just remembered it's the only album that Rykodisc didn't have any bonus tracks for, so I might just actually go ahead and get this...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Reissue

(I have no connection with CD-WOW!, other internet music retailers are available, blah blah)

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Bah! Knew I shouldn't have gone near that site to find the URL - now £34 poorer due to impending Neil Young at long last CD release madness.

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

[that's from this week's Now, by the way]

scott woods (s woods), Thursday, 26 June 2003 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

six years pass...

RIP Brian Duffy, the photographer of that cover image:

http://nymag.com/daily/fashion/2010/06/photographer_brian_duffy_dies.html

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 June 2010 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

^shithouse.

supreeeemely dope album tho : )

wilter, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

One day though it might as well be someday
You and I will rise up all the way
All because of what you are
The Prettiest Star

wilter, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

...and then that beautiful Ronson solo

willem, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

is this his "masterpiece"?

Treeship, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 04:44 (seven years ago) link

The way such a brilliant album ends with such a strange but florid headscratcher as "Lady Grinning Soul."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:46 AM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ worst post in ilx history (sorry ned).

lady grinning soul is my favorite song on this album. the best thing is that you have songs like that and aladdin sane alongside rockers like panic in detroit (which, can we say, has the grooviest percussion it's just so good.) somehow these songs all sounded very cohesive to me this week.

don't like the lyrics to cracked actor or time. the other songs have lyrics that range from unobtrusive to amazing, typical of bowie.
.
this album, full disclosure, used to be the one i didn't "get". i was so stoked to get it in 9th or 10th grade bc i new it followed ziggy which was the one i loved but it just didn't click then.

Treeship, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 04:50 (seven years ago) link

I hate this version of "Let's Spend the Night Together"

aw yeah, I have always found it horrible which is weird since I love the Stones' version and love this Bowie period, including most of the covers he made around that time !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 23 June 2022 09:45 (one week ago) link

This album is a distinct step down for me from and Hunky Dory and Ziggy. It's highs are as the high (Panic, Jean Genie, Lady Grinning Soul, but it seems tired and off-kilter to me and has at least one completely forgettable song (The Prettiest Star) and one that I wish I could forget (Let's Spend the Night Together). I still like it a lot, of course.

Cabernet Frank (PBKR), Thursday, 23 June 2022 11:33 (one week ago) link

I wouldn't say I hate the "Let's Spend the Night Together" cover, but both "All the Young Dudes" and "John I'm Only Dancing" are so far superior to it that either one could replace it and vastly improve the album.

I'd also replace "The Prettiest Star" with the original, slower version, but I guess it would've been weird to stick a single from 1970 onto a 1973 album.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:16 (one week ago) link

I vastly prefer it to Ziggy. AS just sounds fabulous. I love Ronson turning up the raunch.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:17 (one week ago) link

I prefer dd to either

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:39 (one week ago) link

I may like this more than Ziggy, but I love Ziggy. Of his glam-era albums, Hunky Dory is possibly my favorite, but I don't see the need to put one down to elevate the other. Those three albums are masterpieces, just flat out great in their own way.

birdistheword, Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:23 (one week ago) link

The arrangements and production on this album are a small step up from Hunky Dory and Ziggy imo (not that those albums are slouches at all). But it's been like 20 years since I first heard this album and I STILL want the vocal on "Watch That Man" pushed up, whether it was intentional or not

Vinnie, Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:24 (one week ago) link

agree that "Spend the Night" is a big weak link, too cokey in a bad way when the rest of the record is coked up in a good way.

in my youth i was strong on ZS as my fav of the glam era, but since then AS is the one i've gone back to more often & consistently gotten more out of. over the years it's slowly revealed itself as a bit stranger than ZS, with more mysteries to explore. (bird is right though in that thankfully we dont have to pick just one.)

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:40 (one week ago) link

"Let's Spend the Night Together" is so bad it would have been the worst song on Pin-Ups!

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:45 (one week ago) link

I may like this more than Ziggy, but I love Ziggy. Of his glam-era albums, Hunky Dory is possibly my favorite, but I don't see the need to put one down to elevate the other. Those three albums are masterpieces, just flat out great in their own way.

― birdistheword,

You gotta include Diamond Dogs, the best of the bunch after Hunky Dory.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:15 (one week ago) link

I'm actually not a fan of Diamond Dogs, at least not a huge fan. Some great stuff, but also some stuff I don't particularly like and the whole thing never comes together for me. (The "1984/Dodo" outtake is a favorite though, with Ronson still in the band and applying some nice Shaft-like licks all over the place. In a way it feels like a stronger bridge between the glam rock records and Young Americans.)

birdistheword, Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:31 (one week ago) link

On the contrary, it hangs together quite well thanks to the richness of the production. It took me a few years.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:41 (one week ago) link

Covers are a real blind spot for Bowie in the 70s. I mean pinups is his worst 70s album and every other cover he did (with the exception of wild is the wind maybe) is the worst song on the album

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:54 (one week ago) link

Exception: "It's Hard to Be a Saint...," largely b/c he's having a good time.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:05 (one week ago) link

The cover of “The Electrician” is fine

Title track and “Drive-In Saturday” are spectacular but I am ambivalent about the rest of this album, especially compared to the sky scraping heights of the previous two

I’m of the opinion that Pin-Ups is fine tho

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:23 (one week ago) link

xxxp I didn't really mean the production or the overall sound, more the songs and the concept which never really sustained itself for me - maybe there's too many things that are too familiar (I'm not sure it would've helped had he been able to license 1984 either) but whenever I've sat through the whole thing as an active listener, it feels like a slog. The stuff I like I most I enjoy out of context.

As for the covers, I kind of enjoy Pin Ups but yeah, they're really hit-or-miss. I think they've always have been - one can probably program a double LP compilation of non-Pin Ups covers where one disc is pretty awesome and the other the pits.

birdistheword, Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:31 (one week ago) link

I'll keep trying with Diamond Dogs. It feels like something I should like more just because that whole era of Bowie music means a lot to me, but I always feel a bit disappointed every time I've put it on.

birdistheword, Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:46 (one week ago) link

Sweet Thing/Candidate is one of the grandest things he ever accomplished. The mix has so much going on, so rich.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:52 (one week ago) link

and of course his gloriously terrible, appropriate guitar solos and sax bleats

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:52 (one week ago) link

in the 70s every other cover he did is the worst song on the album

I'd rank "Across the Universe" over "Fascination" or "Right".

The cover of “The Electrician” is fine

"Nite Flights"? I made a post elsewhere describing how Bowie changed one chord in his version and completely modified the balance between the song's verse and chorus.

Diamond Dogs is a crazy attempt to touch all the bases at once; he's trying to uphold his rock 'n' roll and glam "roots", but also do cabaret, soul, prog, funk, sci-fi, apocalypse, Krautrock, etc.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:47 (one week ago) link

His version "Across the Universe" is the worst cover of any song by anybody, let alone by David Bowie.

Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:07 (one week ago) link

otm

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:13 (one week ago) link

IIRC he had Visconti cut out two good songs to make room for "Across the Universe" and "Fame" too. (I think "Fame" by itself could have been shoehorned in without sacrificing any songs - wish they had done that.)

birdistheword, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:14 (one week ago) link

my favorite one on here is the title track, what a performance by mike garson. i do laugh to myself a little during the part of his solo where he interpolates "tequila" by the champs.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:14 (one week ago) link

His version "Across the Universe" is the worst cover of any song by anybody, let alone by David Bowie.

― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:07 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnu61JbAVvQ

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:34 (one week ago) link

i.e. both of you are wrong

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:34 (one week ago) link

"wild is the wind" excepted, its funny how bowie was so good but seemed to have almost a uniquely difficult time recording a half-decent version of anyone else's song. he could only be bowie.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:51 (one week ago) link

His version "Across the Universe" is the worst cover of any song by anybody, let alone by David Bowie.

― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.)

this to the power of ...

mark e, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:52 (one week ago) link

The first couple of minutes of the title track are my favourite Bowie stuff ever.

piscesx, Thursday, 23 June 2022 21:34 (one week ago) link

I agree "God Only Knows" is his worst cover. I also know I'm alone in enjoying his "Across the Universe".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 23 June 2022 21:39 (one week ago) link

No!

The guitars sound fab.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2022 22:03 (one week ago) link

xxxp yes yes I meant “Nite Flights” ugh

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 June 2022 03:00 (one week ago) link

If it counts, I’d argue “Tonight” is his worst cover

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 June 2022 03:02 (one week ago) link

what i'd like to know is how we feel about "fill your heart"

budo jeru, Friday, 24 June 2022 04:11 (one week ago) link

Maybe it would be easier to list the good covers? Not necessarily better but ones we enjoy.

"Sorrow," "Kingdom Come," the Velvets stuff done live, "I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday," "China Girl" (if that counts), "Cactus," "I've Been Waiting for You," "Pablo Picasso"...

birdistheword, Friday, 24 June 2022 04:54 (one week ago) link

I actually quite like Fill Your Heart but it's still probably the worst song on the album, or second tier at least. It's also pretty much the same as the Biff Rose original.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 24 June 2022 07:59 (one week ago) link

For me, Sorrow and Wild is the Wind are the only standout Bowie covers. The rest don't add much, or anything at all, to the Bowie oeuvre.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 24 June 2022 08:02 (one week ago) link

I love Lets Spend the Night Together! I didn’t realize most aren’t that fond of it. It sounds unhinged in just the right way, overloaded and horny.

Cow_Art, Friday, 24 June 2022 09:41 (one week ago) link

I think it works in the context of the album, plus I love the “DO IT” part with mick ronson’s motorcycle revving

brimstead, Friday, 24 June 2022 14:18 (one week ago) link

god, "wild is the wind" is SUCH a slog. the three-minute single edit is plenty

budo jeru, Friday, 24 June 2022 15:16 (one week ago) link

I love Lets Spend the Night Together! I didn’t realize most aren’t that fond of it. It sounds unhinged in just the right way, overloaded and horny.

I agree. I’d argue that there’s a worse Stones cover on Diamond Dogs (I have no love for “Rebel Rebel” except that it’s on the radio often and I like to be reminded of Bowie)

I always forget that “The Jean Genie” is on this. I love that song

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 June 2022 16:48 (one week ago) link

otm re "Rebel Rebel"

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:49 (one week ago) link

I must have missed this, Bowie covered 'The Electrician'? Where can I find that?

Maresn3st, Friday, 24 June 2022 17:24 (one week ago) link

It's corrected, they meant "Nite Flights."

But Bowie wrote a song so similar to Scott Walker that the estate might've sued:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02BXbobS_mY

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 17:28 (one week ago) link

I love "Rebel Rebel," one of the first Bowie singles I instantly fell in love with before I really knew who he was. But it also feels wedged into Diamond Dogs rather than something organically conceived with the rest of the album. It's probably more appropriate for Aladdin Sane but it was recorded (or written?) too late for that to happen.

birdistheword, Friday, 24 June 2022 19:08 (one week ago) link

"Diamond Dogs" the song seems much more of a Stones pastiche than "Rebel Rebel".

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 24 June 2022 19:21 (one week ago) link

I slag on Diamond Dogs a lot but isn't it the first album since early days that Bowie made without Ronson? If so, I gotta cut it some more slack

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:16 (one week ago) link

Bowie wrote a song so similar to Scott Walker

afaic, one of Scott Walker's greatest achievements was proxy-teaching Bowie his latter-day technique. Bowie from Buddha onward is like... my favourite singer. I prefer Bowie-doing-Walker to Walker-doing-Walker, oftentimes; Walker tends to get a little too Phantom Of The Opera at times

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:18 (one week ago) link

xp I believe so. That's one reason I mentioned "1984/Dodo" which was early enough to be recorded with Ronson. You get rid of "Dodo" and it's more or less the same song and arrangement as what's on the album, but Ronson's guitar part was also my favorite and that's completely gone.

birdistheword, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:18 (one week ago) link

One of my favourite things is Scott Walker wishing Bowie a happy 50th birthday and Bowie starts crying

I mean, it's famous, but here it is in case anybody missed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V01oQ_BsX00

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:20 (one week ago) link


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