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saint etienne: a band ive always wanted to get into, but for one reason or another haven't, what's a good place to start?

andrew, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Too Tough to Die, the singles comp, is probably the place to discover once and for all whether you dig 'em or not. Regular- albumswise, I quite enjoy So Tough (1992) and, less so, Good Humor (1999).

M. Matos, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

erm, that's Too Young to Die

M. Matos, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Erm, didn't we do this one? I remember my genius take on St.Etienne as the British Beastie Boys.

Omar, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

omar, what ya talking about? i thought it was me that said that?

gareth, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Heyhey, watch it Gareth: that's the one truly great idea I've had, so there must be a copyright involved here...I'll sue you and take away all your records ;)

To the archives!!!

Omar, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Saint Etienne: Search & Destroy

Nick, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

sorry omar, it was you. i've always thought it though

gareth, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

But, of course "Too tough To Die" was by The Ramones, and therefore also splendid.

This allows me to mention the Ramones today, as I must.

Dr. C, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Well Gareth i'm glad somebody else agrees, doesn't happen very often with my "anyone notice how Timbaland-productions-sound-like- 'OntheCorner'?" comparisons.

[in the background Dr.C starts looking cross-eyed, makes smoking gestures]

Omar, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Why not just nab free songs off audio galaxy like everyone else? THen if you like em enough, buy That album taht has Sylvie on it. Good...something. Good tidings?Good Humour!

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Get Foxbase Alpha, So Tough, Tiger Bay and Too Young To Die. I'd be wary about much of their later work (though "We're In The City" is essential), though some here could provide more convincing arguments for their recent stuff.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i think robin hit it right on the head... the old stuff plus "Places to Visit" where you'll find We're in the City"...

by the way robin, we miss you on alt.fan.momus!

mike j, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

If you're going to get Tiger Bay make sure you get the expanded Heavenly release, which turns a good album into a great one. I've been listening to it constantly lately.

Tim, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I don't think I "get" them.

duane, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I've never really been able to get into them either. Their singles are almost always top notch, making Too Young to Die the obvious first purchase, but I dislike most of the album tracks on So Tough, Tiger Bay, and Sound of Water. I'm wasn't interested in the slightest in hearing Good Humor after I heard "Sylvie".

palpable, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

What were the extra tracks on Tiger Bay, Tim? I know the ace "He's On The Phone" was on there ...

Robin Carmody, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh, what's with dissing _Good Humour_? It's a damn fine album. (Could do without the Douglas Copeland liner notes, though - I call for a moratorium on literary types spewing bla-bla in liner notes.) Granted, this is my only prolonged exposure to the Saint, so maybe I'm on the ass end of the curve.

But if you, like I did, can find _Good Humour_ with that extra disc of b-sides attached, GET IT!

David Raposa, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Search out any of the Cd singles between 90 and 93, everyone a winner. Great cover versions, prog whig outs, Aphex Twin remixes, Chris Morris and his Spongbake and a unity to them which makes them real EP's rather than the title track and 3 other throw offs.

Oh and He's on the phone is the work of God.

Billy Dods, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Robin, the extra tracks are "He's On The Phone", "I Buy American Records", "Grovely Road", "Hate Your Drug", "Marble Lions", "Western Wind" and "Tankerville". They're dispersed throughout the album, and strangely it actually flows better. Sadly however, "I Was Born On Christmas Day" isn't on this version.

Tim, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

seven years pass...

Method Of Modern Love - sadly not a Hall & Oates cover more a 'hey Call The Shots was nice maybe we can finally get that top 10 hit?'

also COLA BOY REMIX

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

This is GREAT.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that the thing Richard X was supposed to be producing for them or is that still in the pipeline?

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

this one is X-produced yeh

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

wow that's really good

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Yep, thirded or fourthed or whatever. Fucking awesome!

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

: D

the stickup man from the gripping "wire" television show (omar little), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I want to believe...but it sounds a bit bland to me.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

must be playing a different track for me cause zzzzzz

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

sarah cracknell brushed past me at a cinema the other day.

Fear Of Usic (special guest stars mark bronson), Saturday, 20 December 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Foxbase Beta

Journey through the past, part 5.

Rumours have been flying left right and centre, but we can finally confirm that disco dynamo Richard X has taken Foxbase Alpha and re-arranged it into a brand new beast called FOXBASE BETA. Using the original masters, adding cellos, electrix, choirs, and the spirit of Brian Cant he has created something really special - spruced-up yet reverential, it is essentially a 2009 up-date of Foxbase Alpha, given a shot of vodka and a loving caress. We're chuffed. It feels unnervingly like jumping into a Tardis.

FOXBASE BETA will be issued, via the fan club, as a limited, numbered 2CD set of 3,000 copies, which will also include FOXBASE EXTRA, three unreleased recordings from the original album sessions: a just discovered coda to Girl VII (we'd forgotten it existed), a summery instrumental called Richard III, and the first, very different, take of Kiss And Make Up, which was the very first Saint Etienne recording. We cut it one afternoon in January 1990, and then Only Love Can Break Your Heart in the evening! It was all so simple then. These tracks won't be available anywhere else.

There will also be a 'directors' commentary' on the bonus disc. Informative, yes. Pithy, quite possibly.

An un-numbered, single disc edition will be available at gigs and through Rough Trade. It will also be available for digital download (with the commentary but without the bonus tracks).

For club promo, a 4-track 12" is currently at the pressing plant, including extended Foxbase Beta version of Only Love Can Break Your Heart (plus instrumental mix), the FBB version of Girl VII (grrrreat), and Gothenburg's Balearic princes Air France's mix of Spring. We'll have 200 copies of this available through the fan club. As soon as we have them we'll let you know.

Foxbase Beta will be available to pre-order on Monday 21st of September. More details next week.

England in the World Cup finals, 3 Of A Kind's Babycakes playing on my hi-fi, Foxbase Beta finally put to bed. Late summer, early autumn, and all is good.

love

Bob xx

history mayne, Friday, 11 September 2009 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link

what is that sound? some kind of metal, spoon-like implement against wood?

history mayne, Friday, 11 September 2009 10:13 (fifteen years ago) link

It was all so simple then. These tracks won't be available anywhere else.

Ah, but it's not that simple now, Bob.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Friday, 11 September 2009 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

looking forward to this, i was having a bit of a richard x / girls on top retrospective while i was working the other day.
kiss & make up + only love in one day, thats a pretty productive day imo.

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Friday, 11 September 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

http://assets.umusic.co.uk/saintetienne/FBBCoverMedium.jpg

DavidM, Friday, 11 September 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

ok i think i am in love with that girl.

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Friday, 11 September 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Samples of the FBB versions of "Girl VIII" and Only Love..." are up on their myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/saintetienne

one boob is free with one (daavid), Saturday, 12 September 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I think X did a good job on Girl VIII but not on "Only Love...". That bassline is a bit tedious IMO.

one boob is free with one (daavid), Saturday, 12 September 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Was just listening to "Method of Modern Love" and remembered the little New Order bit:
"There's no sense or reason why we're shot with a bolt of blue..."

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

who wrote the sleeve notes for the latest batch of deluxe versions?

djh, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

also coming soon "songs for the dog and duck" ...

djh, Saturday, 19 September 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

free 3 track live ep for signing up for the fan club right now. great 'folk' version of Like A Motorway.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 19 September 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

richard x is working with sound of arrows too.

keythkeythkeyth, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

so foxbase beta is going on sale tomorrow, but in the e-mail i received it doesn't say what time it's going on sale, just "tomorrow morning"...

omar little, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone else going to the Shepherd's Bush Empire show? Annie is supporting, just like she did the last time I saw StEt live in London.

I saw your posse, but now it's me who's bossy (DavidM), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

It's up now - surprisingly, the site is not dying under the load unlike the last few times they've tried this...

carson dial, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 08:10 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

omg the new mix of Only Love Will Break Your Heart that just came out on 12" is KILLING ME - total 105 bpm balearic hotness!

mikebee (BATTAGS), Monday, 12 October 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

choice

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 October 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

just plunk down your $23 on their web site they'll ship it right to your door

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

just plunk down your $23 on their web site they'll ship it right to your door

― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 1:47 PM (three hours ago)

a) This presupposes that their website will actually send me an email when I request a forgotten password (hasn't happened), and
b) This also presupposes that it won't be at least an additional $23 to ship it to Australia. Which I can't confirm until I can login apparently.

Actually, maybe ochre.stores are individual to the subdomain? I'm kind of hoping it turns up on Bandcamp anyway, or general distro.

raven, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 06:14 (three years ago) link

OK, I have logged in. It is a total of USD 20.28 to Australia, or a little under 30 AUD. Is that reasonable for a 4 track CD, one track of which is an edit?
Well, obviously not lol, but what is reasonable these days?

raven, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 06:20 (three years ago) link

Appreciate that they have a .wav/.flac option (if you go to the page for just that item, https://saintetienne.ochre.store/format/867144-her-winter-coat), just for that reason. Shipping costs doubling (or more) the purchase price, I settle for non-tangible downloads. Oddly, the .wav price under the Download section - $2 - is for the single track, not the 4 song EP. If you scroll down to the Digital Track List section, they're individually priced at $2. Can get all three (or four, if you want the edit) for $6 (or $8).

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

yeah I almost just ordered the FLAC for US$2, but fuck it, I've got like 50 Saint Etienne CDs already why not get #51

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

Liking this EP. I have to say I really dig this ambientish phase (probably imposed by COVID) they’re in. I had lost touch with them after Finistere or so.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

while we are having our usual fun dunking on their pricey fan club releases, should probably note that all proceeds from the christmas single DO go to charity

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

Reasonable point, well made.

That said, music buying has changed so much. I have loads of Saint Etienne CD singles, originally priced between 99p and £3.99 - I think but am not entirely sure that "Avenue" was one of the former - and I'm fairly certain I subsequently bought the accompanying albums.

djh, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link

The sample source for Her Winter Coat made me chuckle.

djh, Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

Fairfax High is a must if you’re into Good Humor

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 10 November 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link

Ta. I must admit I *think* I own most (if not all) of "Fairfax High" without owning the actual release.

djh, Thursday, 10 November 2022 21:20 (two years ago) link

It's a superb album. Equal to if not better than Good Humor. It has a bit of the vibe of their earlier albums. Hit the Brakes is a stand out track that could have been a single.

everything, Thursday, 10 November 2022 22:11 (two years ago) link

I've got the original as the bonus CD disc to Good Humor, and most (maybe all?) the tracks are on the Good Humor reissue which I've also got, but I would have serious trouble resisting buying this if I saw it for sale in a record store.

everything, Thursday, 10 November 2022 22:14 (two years ago) link

It's easy to find on CD, either the original US release of Good Humor with bonus disc or the deluxe CD reissue from a few years back... don't think it's ever been on vinyl before though!

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 11 November 2022 00:00 (two years ago) link

presales on the vinyl editions of the Character of Saint Etienne, Good Humor, and Fairfax High are live...

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 17 November 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

This year's Xmas collection is now available to order. 'Built On Sand' on vinyl + a 2-track 10" (Music For Hermione)

Jeff W, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link

Gah! Music for Hermione sold out ...

djh, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

That's always good news.

kitchen person, Saturday, 2 November 2024 19:21 (one month ago) link

Oh, there was also mention that The Character Of Saint Etienne is coming out on CD, next year. Not minidisc, though...

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:48 (one month ago) link

About time, re: TCoST. Feeling FOMO on that one, after asking about a CD version a few times.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 7 November 2024 00:27 (one month ago) link

Two new tracks up on Spotify (and similar).

djh, Thursday, 14 November 2024 09:47 (three weeks ago) link

oh really like these

Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Thursday, 14 November 2024 09:55 (three weeks ago) link

Excited - really liked the last instrumental album. Hoping this will be in that vein

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 14 November 2024 11:23 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzpATgKBp3Q

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 14 November 2024 11:43 (three weeks ago) link

the b-side "daydream" (which sadly isn't on the album) is sublime

ufo, Thursday, 14 November 2024 22:53 (three weeks ago) link

Just a quick reminder it's about to be on sale via the official shop, with the bonus CD etc

https://saint-etienne-official.myshopify.com/collections/vinyl

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

I set an alarm on my phone and couldn't remember what it was for, lol

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 17:04 (two weeks ago) link

Hahah well happy to provide. Note for anyone (like me) ordering the CD version that with tracking to the US, full cost is $36.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 17:08 (two weeks ago) link

"anyone arriving within the first hour or two first six minutes should get what they want"

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 17:11 (two weeks ago) link

(I also went with the CD)

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 17:12 (two weeks ago) link

FFS. Even the CD has sold out. Some people have to go to fucking work.

djh, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 18:10 (two weeks ago) link

if they pressed up more than 500 CD copies I'd be surprised

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 18:13 (two weeks ago) link

I am feeling more irritated than I should ... perhaps because I often enjoy their "bonus tracks" more than their main releases.

djh, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 18:16 (two weeks ago) link

Damn, forgot about this. I was driving anyway but even so.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 18:20 (two weeks ago) link

I mean yeah, Fairfax High is better than Good Humor

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 18:32 (two weeks ago) link

Buried in various (somewhat annoyed, for the most part) comments on their Facebook page:

to be honest we weren't expecting to sell many CDs and are quite taken aback by how many of you want them. Those were not a limited edition and will be in record shops to pre-order next week .

I am intrigued by that initial detail because this is the first instance in a long while I've heard of CD demand underestimation. Says something about the fanbase I'm sure but also may suggest something in terms of vinyl being, you know, a bit more expensive these days.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:34 (two weeks ago) link

In a separate comment:

'Character Of Saint Etienne' on CD in spring too.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:35 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah. Regular cd release selling out is just weird. Will get this in store eventually, just hope it’ll come with the bonus CD

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:38 (two weeks ago) link

The official comments indicate no bonus CD when it comes to regular sales. It was this or nothing.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:41 (two weeks ago) link

Oh no :(

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:55 (two weeks ago) link

St Et kinda buck the trend in that quite a few of their CDs are higher price on discogs etc than the LP equivalent

Mark G, Thursday, 21 November 2024 07:20 (two weeks ago) link

Power was out here, with spotty internet, so sadly pleased I likely would have been aced out on the cd. Re: the quick selling, St. E has long been “oh, you really love us?” coy with the amounts they release versus demand. Maybe the bonus cd tracks will be collected someday. Does help cure FOMO with such a limited quantity.

Good news on The Character… finally releasing.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 21 November 2024 10:58 (two weeks ago) link

Lots of respect to Martin Kelly for engaging politely with all the disgruntled fans. Many good comments in his St. E Official posts, particularly the idea of a two week preorder to allow for pressing the desired quantity. I don’t know if pressing rounds to nearest hundred or thousand, but for bonus versions, seems the best way to please the most buyers, and would negate some of the scalping complaints.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 21 November 2024 11:50 (two weeks ago) link

From a quick look at the shops (Norman, Rough Trade), looks like it is a single CD out in the wild?

djh, Monday, 25 November 2024 10:37 (two weeks ago) link

hahaha, that's a weird answer from management! shipping to the US, the CD was $35 while the vinyl was $56. a lot of fans feeling the financial pinch are gonna go for the cheaper CD if they want that exclusive bonus disc, of course it's going to sell out quickly. they wanted the bonus disc, Martin, they know the regular CD will be in shops a month from now.

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 25 November 2024 15:49 (two weeks ago) link

exclusive Sarah Cracknell being interviewed on 6 Music with Mark Radcliffe just mentioned that Saint Etienne are working on another album ! This will be released next Summer and will be more uptempo and summery.

djmartian, Saturday, 30 November 2024 09:43 (one week ago) link

I have to confess that my irritation about the bonus CD has stopped me pre-ordering this.

djh, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 18:58 (one week ago) link

Same

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 3 December 2024 21:51 (one week ago) link


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