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saint etienne: a band ive always wanted to get into, but for one reason or another haven't, what's a good place to start?

andrew, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Too Tough to Die, the singles comp, is probably the place to discover once and for all whether you dig 'em or not. Regular- albumswise, I quite enjoy So Tough (1992) and, less so, Good Humor (1999).

M. Matos, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

erm, that's Too Young to Die

M. Matos, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Erm, didn't we do this one? I remember my genius take on St.Etienne as the British Beastie Boys.

Omar, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

omar, what ya talking about? i thought it was me that said that?

gareth, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Heyhey, watch it Gareth: that's the one truly great idea I've had, so there must be a copyright involved here...I'll sue you and take away all your records ;)

To the archives!!!

Omar, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Saint Etienne: Search & Destroy

Nick, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

sorry omar, it was you. i've always thought it though

gareth, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

But, of course "Too tough To Die" was by The Ramones, and therefore also splendid.

This allows me to mention the Ramones today, as I must.

Dr. C, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Well Gareth i'm glad somebody else agrees, doesn't happen very often with my "anyone notice how Timbaland-productions-sound-like- 'OntheCorner'?" comparisons.

[in the background Dr.C starts looking cross-eyed, makes smoking gestures]

Omar, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Why not just nab free songs off audio galaxy like everyone else? THen if you like em enough, buy That album taht has Sylvie on it. Good...something. Good tidings?Good Humour!

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Get Foxbase Alpha, So Tough, Tiger Bay and Too Young To Die. I'd be wary about much of their later work (though "We're In The City" is essential), though some here could provide more convincing arguments for their recent stuff.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

i think robin hit it right on the head... the old stuff plus "Places to Visit" where you'll find We're in the City"...

by the way robin, we miss you on alt.fan.momus!

mike j, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

If you're going to get Tiger Bay make sure you get the expanded Heavenly release, which turns a good album into a great one. I've been listening to it constantly lately.

Tim, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think I "get" them.

duane, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

I've never really been able to get into them either. Their singles are almost always top notch, making Too Young to Die the obvious first purchase, but I dislike most of the album tracks on So Tough, Tiger Bay, and Sound of Water. I'm wasn't interested in the slightest in hearing Good Humor after I heard "Sylvie".

palpable, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

What were the extra tracks on Tiger Bay, Tim? I know the ace "He's On The Phone" was on there ...

Robin Carmody, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, what's with dissing _Good Humour_? It's a damn fine album. (Could do without the Douglas Copeland liner notes, though - I call for a moratorium on literary types spewing bla-bla in liner notes.) Granted, this is my only prolonged exposure to the Saint, so maybe I'm on the ass end of the curve.

But if you, like I did, can find _Good Humour_ with that extra disc of b-sides attached, GET IT!

David Raposa, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Search out any of the Cd singles between 90 and 93, everyone a winner. Great cover versions, prog whig outs, Aphex Twin remixes, Chris Morris and his Spongbake and a unity to them which makes them real EP's rather than the title track and 3 other throw offs.

Oh and He's on the phone is the work of God.

Billy Dods, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Robin, the extra tracks are "He's On The Phone", "I Buy American Records", "Grovely Road", "Hate Your Drug", "Marble Lions", "Western Wind" and "Tankerville". They're dispersed throughout the album, and strangely it actually flows better. Sadly however, "I Was Born On Christmas Day" isn't on this version.

Tim, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

seven years pass...

Method Of Modern Love - sadly not a Hall & Oates cover more a 'hey Call The Shots was nice maybe we can finally get that top 10 hit?'

also COLA BOY REMIX

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

This is GREAT.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Is that the thing Richard X was supposed to be producing for them or is that still in the pipeline?

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

this one is X-produced yeh

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

wow that's really good

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

Yep, thirded or fourthed or whatever. Fucking awesome!

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

: D

the stickup man from the gripping "wire" television show (omar little), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

I want to believe...but it sounds a bit bland to me.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

must be playing a different track for me cause zzzzzz

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

sarah cracknell brushed past me at a cinema the other day.

Fear Of Usic (special guest stars mark bronson), Saturday, 20 December 2008 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

Foxbase Beta

Journey through the past, part 5.

Rumours have been flying left right and centre, but we can finally confirm that disco dynamo Richard X has taken Foxbase Alpha and re-arranged it into a brand new beast called FOXBASE BETA. Using the original masters, adding cellos, electrix, choirs, and the spirit of Brian Cant he has created something really special - spruced-up yet reverential, it is essentially a 2009 up-date of Foxbase Alpha, given a shot of vodka and a loving caress. We're chuffed. It feels unnervingly like jumping into a Tardis.

FOXBASE BETA will be issued, via the fan club, as a limited, numbered 2CD set of 3,000 copies, which will also include FOXBASE EXTRA, three unreleased recordings from the original album sessions: a just discovered coda to Girl VII (we'd forgotten it existed), a summery instrumental called Richard III, and the first, very different, take of Kiss And Make Up, which was the very first Saint Etienne recording. We cut it one afternoon in January 1990, and then Only Love Can Break Your Heart in the evening! It was all so simple then. These tracks won't be available anywhere else.

There will also be a 'directors' commentary' on the bonus disc. Informative, yes. Pithy, quite possibly.

An un-numbered, single disc edition will be available at gigs and through Rough Trade. It will also be available for digital download (with the commentary but without the bonus tracks).

For club promo, a 4-track 12" is currently at the pressing plant, including extended Foxbase Beta version of Only Love Can Break Your Heart (plus instrumental mix), the FBB version of Girl VII (grrrreat), and Gothenburg's Balearic princes Air France's mix of Spring. We'll have 200 copies of this available through the fan club. As soon as we have them we'll let you know.

Foxbase Beta will be available to pre-order on Monday 21st of September. More details next week.

England in the World Cup finals, 3 Of A Kind's Babycakes playing on my hi-fi, Foxbase Beta finally put to bed. Late summer, early autumn, and all is good.

love

Bob xx

history mayne, Friday, 11 September 2009 10:12 (eleven years ago) link

what is that sound? some kind of metal, spoon-like implement against wood?

history mayne, Friday, 11 September 2009 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

It was all so simple then. These tracks won't be available anywhere else.

Ah, but it's not that simple now, Bob.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Friday, 11 September 2009 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

looking forward to this, i was having a bit of a richard x / girls on top retrospective while i was working the other day.
kiss & make up + only love in one day, thats a pretty productive day imo.

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Friday, 11 September 2009 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://assets.umusic.co.uk/saintetienne/FBBCoverMedium.jpg

DavidM, Friday, 11 September 2009 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

ok i think i am in love with that girl.

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Friday, 11 September 2009 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

Samples of the FBB versions of "Girl VIII" and Only Love..." are up on their myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/saintetienne

one boob is free with one (daavid), Saturday, 12 September 2009 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

I think X did a good job on Girl VIII but not on "Only Love...". That bassline is a bit tedious IMO.

one boob is free with one (daavid), Saturday, 12 September 2009 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Was just listening to "Method of Modern Love" and remembered the little New Order bit:
"There's no sense or reason why we're shot with a bolt of blue..."

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

who wrote the sleeve notes for the latest batch of deluxe versions?

djh, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

also coming soon "songs for the dog and duck" ...

djh, Saturday, 19 September 2009 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

free 3 track live ep for signing up for the fan club right now. great 'folk' version of Like A Motorway.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 19 September 2009 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

richard x is working with sound of arrows too.

keythkeythkeyth, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

so foxbase beta is going on sale tomorrow, but in the e-mail i received it doesn't say what time it's going on sale, just "tomorrow morning"...

omar little, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone else going to the Shepherd's Bush Empire show? Annie is supporting, just like she did the last time I saw StEt live in London.

I saw your posse, but now it's me who's bossy (DavidM), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

It's up now - surprisingly, the site is not dying under the load unlike the last few times they've tried this...

carson dial, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 08:10 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

omg the new mix of Only Love Will Break Your Heart that just came out on 12" is KILLING ME - total 105 bpm balearic hotness!

mikebee (BATTAGS), Monday, 12 October 2009 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

choice

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 October 2009 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

so anyone know what happened to bob stanley? he wasn't at the SF show and I assume wasn't at the others on this tour.

SF show was excellent btw regardless.

akm, Sunday, 16 September 2018 15:38 (two years ago) link

Yes, very great. First half was all of Good Humor, then a break and a second half with all sorts of good things, including some Home Counties cuts and “Camel Coat” from the new EP, but the concluding four song run of “Like a Motorway,” “Tonight,” “Only Love Can Break Your Heart” and “Nothing Can Stop Us” saved souls. And then they came back for an encore starting with “Hobart Paving,” with live violin and flute both, then “You’re In a Bad Wayl and “He’s on the Phone” to see it out. Fun bonus; Sarah tells us before “Tonight” that she wrote the song about remembering when she would get herself ready to go out and see a slew of shows by a band she liked when younger. She said the band was Felt; the crowd cheered very loudly. Sarah: “So Lawrence has a fan base here. I’ll have to tell him!”

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:05 (two years ago) link

SF gig was amazing! Such a good crowd, and Sarah’s voice was so on point.

Hoping the new EP pops up on Spotify at some point...the other ‘limited edition’ Dive EP is streamable, so I’m crossing my fingers.

SE is an expensive band to be into. Did anyone see the $70 t-shirts for sale at the merch booth???!

KevRus, Sunday, 16 September 2018 21:05 (two years ago) link

$70? $20 I thought.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 September 2018 23:37 (two years ago) link

saw them last night in L.A., fantastic show. that band is *great*, and very very tight. I am always amazed at how packed their shows are and how enthusiastic the crowd always is, without fail.

omar little, Monday, 17 September 2018 16:23 (two years ago) link

Yeah I was just thinking something similar this morning -- for a band that has never once truly broken through on any meaningful level over here beyond the randomly subcultural, hopping labels like crazy etc, they not only have a dedicated fanbase but almost a kinda crazy one, and the SF area definitely has a vocal and loud 'middle-aged bald/balding gay dudes with beards' contingent out in full force based on last year's show and this year's. The amount of homemade shirts and things at the Saturday show was notable -- one guy came dressed in a formal suit with _Home Counties_-style stickers and patches on him, someone else had "Saint Etienne/Home Counties" in the font stitched up on the back of his denim jacket etc. And the merch line was *insane* -- stretched back into the venue and then curled around again on the floor. Rather glad I got there before most, didn't have to wait long (and I rather assume they sold out fully of the 150 allotted vouchers for that night).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 September 2018 16:39 (two years ago) link

at the LA show i spotted a guy with Home Counties-font patches sewed into his vest bearing the names of other SE songs, like PALE MOVIE

the band was absolutely wonderful and yeah, super-tight. debsey got a huge reaction at this show too, the crowd actually started chanting DEB-SEY! DEB-SEY! after sarah introduced her. ‘good humor’ isn’t really my fave SE but it was still a treat to hear that material live - “been so long” sounded really fabulous, and i was psyched to hear them play “goodnight jack” and “mr. donut” (the latter of which made me tear up a bit). and as ever, i loved that a sizable contingent of the audience was 40-something-ish gays

didn’t get the pre-release voucher, and i guess they must have run out of shirts after the last gig because i didn’t see any at the merch stand, sadly

donna rouge, Monday, 17 September 2018 21:01 (two years ago) link

merch stand was all vouchers and $1 buttons. I had heard from a source that the show was definitely not selling out, but the place was pretty packed in the end. Coincidentally my companion was a middle aged bald bearded gay dude, since my w1fe had to bail on account of a cold.

omar little, Monday, 17 September 2018 22:17 (two years ago) link

I told Ned that he and I had too much hair for that show. He said we had both too much and too little, given that we were beardless.

akm, Monday, 17 September 2018 22:38 (two years ago) link

the band was absolutely wonderful and yeah, super-tight. debsey got a huge reaction at this show too, the crowd actually started chanting DEB-SEY! DEB-SEY! after sarah introduced her.

Yeah huge loud cheers for her as well. She really is the not-so-secret weapon and the polite frugs she does are amazing.

I told Ned that he and I had too much hair for that show. He said we had both too much and too little, given that we were beardless.

Yeah I was definitely...atypical.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 00:22 (two years ago) link

So, Bob isn't with them? I saw him posting on Twitter about some movie that was on 'Talking Pictures' so..

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 07:02 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L04zUYuBuh8

KevRus, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 01:03 (two years ago) link

https://wiaiwya.bandcamp.com/album/camel-coat-little-chef

Jeff W, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:16 (two years ago) link

20th anniversary of Good Humor show at the British Library on Sunday was amazing! A few people were slagging off the sound quality afterwards, but seemed fine to me (although was right at front by the speaker stack). Not a space designed to ever have gigs anyway. Genuinely surprised not to see any [at least former] ilxors among the crowd (maybe some went on Saturday).

Great dj set from Lawrence to kick things off - does he only have one set of clothes? Maybe he has lots of those blue & white caps.
Delightfully obscure naturally - the three most recognisable tracks he played were Sheena Easton's Machinery, Argent's Hold Your Head Up and Trainspotters' High Rise.

Current band are awesome. Drummer (whose name I didn't catch) and Gerard Johnson on keys dressed like Austin Powers. Bennett brothers were good, Debsey astounding - provided triangle, shaker, cowbell and melodica as well as backing vox.

Setlist:

Good Humor:
Woodcabin
Sylvie
Split Screen
Mr. Donut
Goodnight Jack
Lose That Girl
The Bad Photographer
Been So Long
Postman
Erica America
Dutch TV

Hit List:

Hill Street Connection
Hug My Soul
Take It All In
Magpie Eyes
Camel Coat
Like a Motorway
Tonight
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Nothing Can Stop Us

Encore:
Hobart Paving
You're in a Bad Way
He's on the Phone

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 12:09 (two years ago) link

And my copies of Mondo Casino and Surrey in hand. A fine thing!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:44 (two years ago) link

How is 'Surrey?'

KevRus, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 01:09 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Asleep At the Wheels of Steel and Foxbase Beta are the next vinyl editions being released.

omar little, Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:58 (two years ago) link

I have lots of spare St Etienne ltd editions, looking for the Tonight 12" if anyone has one and wants to trade for something else.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:35 (two years ago) link

Hey that is the one with our (Club Clique’s) remix on the B-side. It’s one of the better things we did I think, if I do say so myself.

piscesx, Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:46 (two years ago) link

Asleep At the Wheels of Steel and Foxbase Beta are the next vinyl editions being released.

― omar little,

That's great news about Foxbase Beta. I was hoping they'd do that one. Any idea when it's supposed to be coming out?

kitchen person, Friday, 16 November 2018 02:52 (two years ago) link

Ok, it looks like the pre-order is going up next Wednesday. Cool!

kitchen person, Friday, 16 November 2018 03:24 (two years ago) link

Reminder - preordering now

Jeff W, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 21:37 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyKBVeyXQAEa9t5.jpg

Jeff W, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 17:03 (two years ago) link

holy SHIT

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 17:21 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

The RSD2019 single is now on Spotify and I assume other streaming services:
https://open.spotify.com/album/2LhbBZHNtRb8lDynsqAS72?si=QLq61U6YS-OhnOoL-9HU-w

Jeff W, Saturday, 4 May 2019 13:48 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

New vinyl pressing of Misadventures Of Saint Etienne with free signed Christmas card and CD available to pre-order from Friday here…https://t.co/vs8sc8177b pic.twitter.com/aGi2FA23iB

— Saint Etienne (@bobpetesarah) November 19, 2019

Jeff W, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:38 (one year ago) link

The cd is two new tracks

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 05:25 (one year ago) link

no Christmas gigs then?

kraudive, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 23:51 (one year ago) link

Misadventures is the last of the vinyl LPs I need from Saint Etienne, so i'm so happy this was announced. I didn't want to pay $$$ for a copy on Discogs.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 23:57 (one year ago) link

Available to order now. Their Greedbag site is being a bit buggy this morning (extra traffic?) so you may need to refresh a few times before you can bag stuff.

Jeff W, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:34 (one year ago) link

Woke up super early, just in time for them to pause the sale for US folks like me to have a chance to buy. Doh! Oh well, hopefully it doesn't go live during my commute to work.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 22 November 2019 14:50 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Part of a new song on their Instagram, seemingly.

djh, Monday, 19 July 2021 10:33 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hau8CF-jzs

I've Been Trying To Tell You out 10 september

Music Again
Pond House
Fonteyn
Little K
Blue Kite
I Remember It Well
Penlop
Broad River

they've described it as their first sample-based album since So Tough

ufo, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 11:39 (one week ago) link

One longs for Sound of Water/Places to Visit part 2 and maybe this will be it, approx? Lush textures and wordless cooing is the most gratifying StEt mode and it did feel like they had decisively stepped away from this sort of thing over the past 3 albums, so, fingers crossed

technopolis, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 11:50 (one week ago) link

Imagery and video is very Dazed magazine 🤔

Jeff W, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 11:57 (one week ago) link

Their website has details of the various versions. The 2cd Good Humor was easy to find as a Seattle fan, but missed out on the original Words & Music 2cd drop. Hoping for a similar 2cd version with outtakes, but pre-ordered the DVD/CD version. Hearing Jane Weaver's "Solarised" has me stoked for new St. E.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 13:08 (one week ago) link

Waaaahh...so much good stuff on their website sold out/out of stock...it's not fair!

henry s, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 13:20 (one week ago) link

Fell off the wagon after Finisterre (which I really liked) but the teasing of this new one has me intrigued.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 13:47 (one week ago) link

omg

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 13:48 (one week ago) link

yes

bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 13:58 (one week ago) link

new song sounds great! new album cover with shirtless dude putting girl in a headlock is less awesome

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 14:35 (one week ago) link

he's putting his arm around her...?

bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 14:40 (one week ago) link

pond house sounds goood, perfect vibes technopolis otm

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 14:49 (one week ago) link

Headlock wtf

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 14:59 (one week ago) link

I don't care for it

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:02 (one week ago) link

Oh, it's a Dualdisc!

So, CD on one side, DVD on the other...

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:08 (one week ago) link

how did they find these 20 year old models lmao

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:12 (one week ago) link

Although the pictures don't suggest that... (re: DualDisc)

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:13 (one week ago) link

haha, Dualdisc™️ releases ended in 2009 nobody manufactures them anymore

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:14 (one week ago) link

That's what I thought, but you wouldn't put it past them..

(it says "dual disc" format, but)

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:30 (one week ago) link


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