The Weezer POX

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cuz the kids are alright!

Tired Of Sex
The World Has Turned And Left Me Here
The Good Life
No One Else
O Girlfriend
I Just Threw Out The Love Of My Dreams
Only In Dreams
Buddy Holly
Simple Pages
El Scorcho

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

cuz the kids are alright!

No.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

1. No One Else
2. In the Garage
3. Holiday
4. The World Has Turned
5. Tired of Sex
6. Getchoo
7. Pink Triangle
8. Devotion
9. Waiting on You
10. You Gave Your Love to Me Softly

I believe all these songs to be true classics. I know there's a lot of anti-Weezer sentiment out there, but goddamnit these are just good songs. fuck the stuff that came out after pinkerton, that stuff sucks. this is just good pop music.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Though I'll agree the first two albums are better (Matt Sharp maketh the difference, plus Rivers wasn't grammatically challenged in the past), but I still think the last two albums are by all mean good ones.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh shit. Take of "The world has turned" and add "Suzanne"!!

King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

El Scorcho
Butterfly
Susanne
Buddy Holly
In The Garage
The World Has Turned and Left Me Here
The Good Life
Holiday
Only in Dreams
Waiting on You

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The entire first album. Alternately, the entire second album.

Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 20 June 2003 01:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I KNEW someone was gonna pull that. But then you're ignoring all the awesome b-sides!

Actually, out of curiousity. Which is better, Pinkerton or the Blue Album? Personally, it depends on my self-opinion at the time of listening as to whether the cutesypoo woo-woo's or the near monotonous all-girls-are-better-than-me self loathing sounds more like filler.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 01:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Which is better? Really depends on your mood. I like the rougher production of the second though.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 20 June 2003 01:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I usually do too, but the Ocasek sheen on songs like "No One Else" and "Only In Dreams" do a really good job of replicating some kind of high school hormones a'tizzy gorgeousness. These days I'm tempted to say the Blue album is better, which is ironic, cuz I used to think "In The Garage" and "Holiday" flat out sucked. I don't now.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 01:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I refuse to like a band that starts a song with "Goddam you half japanese..."

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 20 June 2003 01:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

1. the world has turned and left me here
2. sweetness and tenderness
3. pink triangle
4. the good life
5. only in dreams
6. tired of sex
7. in the garage
8. please let that be you
9. move on
10. friends of P

Felcherelsewhere, Friday, 20 June 2003 03:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I refuse to like a band that starts a song with "Goddam you half japanese..."

The gist of that line is anything but hateful.


Goddamn you half-Japanese girls
Do it to me every time
Oh, the redhead said you shred the cello
And I'm jello, baby
But you won't talk, won't look, won't think of me
I'm the epitome of public enemy
Why you wanna go and do me like that?
Come down on the street and dance with me

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Friday, 20 June 2003 04:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Across the Sea
My Name is Jonas
The World Has Turned and Left Me Here
Undone (the Sweater Song)
Saturday Night
You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
Tired of Sex
Holiday

...and two of the album #5 demos, the names of which I no longer remember.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Friday, 20 June 2003 04:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The entire first album. Alternately, the entire second album.

I totally agree.

I KNEW someone was gonna pull that. But then you're ignoring all the awesome b-sides!

The Island In The Sun single had a nice b-side on it, Oh Lisa or something like that.

zilverberg.tk (zilverberg.tk), Friday, 20 June 2003 04:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I guess I'd get rid of "Across the Sea" and put in "Janie". The first album is perfect.

Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 20 June 2003 05:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Pinkerton = Pet Sounds?

Discuss.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 20 June 2003 05:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

what, written by a madman?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 20 June 2003 05:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

please throw in some arguments Kenan, I have no clue as to why you would come up with that comparison.

willem (willem), Friday, 20 June 2003 07:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Never mind. 1500 expository words coming soon to a website near you.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm glad someone else remembers Friends of P, that's a good song.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, but its not technically weezer
since matt sharp was quite obviously the heart and soul of that band, i decided to include the rentals in my list

Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I know, which is why I didn't list it myself...I'm just so pleased because I thought I was the only one who remembered that song. Which would be very unfortunate if it was the case.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Picking ten is very hard:

Across the Sea
El Scorcho
Susanne
Mykel and Carli
My Name is Jonas
The Good Life
Say It Ain't So
The World Has Turned...
Island in the Sun
Longtime Sunshine download this. it's a not-officially released song, written right before the blue album was recorded. absolutely gorgeous

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

pinkerton is the astral weeks of the 90s

except, y'know, good

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ally, it's not just that song that rocks, that entire rentals debut is full of classics. they were a weezer version of the faint back when the faint were a whiny emo band.

Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i am a bit sad the "pinketron" meme has seemed to have died out

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

rentals are not good.

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

keep fishin'
dope nose
tired of sex
el scorcho
the good life
hash pipe
photograph
say it ain't so
undone - the sweater song
holiday

Yes, Weezer is one hell of a singles band.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i am a bit sad the "pinkerton" meme has seemed to have died out

Ok, in brief sketches. Both Pinkerton and Pet Sounds are written from the first person point POV of someone who's making the changeover from adolescence to adulthood, and a little late at that, and both albums are about growing via the pain of romantic relationships. "Why Bother" is a not-too-distant cousin of "Here Today," and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is not at all far away from "I wish I could get my head out of the sand 'cuz I think we'd make a good team / and you would keep my fingernails clean / but that's just a stupid dream that I won't realize."

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Actually, maybe I should have picked "Love Explosion" over "Holiday"...

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

keenan you need to read harder and hit the archives

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

read what harder?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

pinketRon

also, i dunno what that has to do with pet sounds

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm desperately lost and embarassed because apparently I'm only repeating old threads, and I'm going away now.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

heh, no no...sigh...i'm sorry, my first reply came off snippier than intended (shockah)

"pinketron" was a misspelling that became a minor ilm meme for a while, but now apparently has died out, which sadden me (jess in nostalgia shockah)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

haha jess no don't you see he CORRECTED your joke and made it FUNNIER well not really.

Josh (Josh), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I thought it was pretty funny that he corrected it and then responded to it in such a serious fashion.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

well funny is funny you're right about that.

Josh (Josh), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ok dammit, I didn't want to do this but here we go:
Tired of Sex
Jamie
World Has Turned...
Pink Triangle
Only in Dreams
No One Else
In the Garage
Buddy Holly
Getchoo
and I can't think of a tenth, so Tired of Sex again.

NA. (Nick A.), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:58 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

did anyone download Longtime Sunshine? Anyone have comments either way about it?

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I can't download it til I get home. You're Rivers Cuomo, aren't you?

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm so happy I amuse you all.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

bahaha. i wish

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I've got Longtime Sunshine and Blast Off mp3s at home (downloaded them before I graduated from college). They're both great, beautiful songs (Blast Off sounds kind of like El Scorcho but has a great computer voice in the middle of it. It would have been the first song off their sci-fi epic "Songs From The Black Hole").

Friends Of P is dandy, but I must admit I prefer "The Love I'm Searching For" and "Waiting" off of the first Rentals album. My pal Theodore Fogelsanger loves the second Rentals album, but I confess only "The Cruise" excited me much on that. My sister saw a Matt Sharp show recently and said it was fun. I'm kinda pissed that evidently Rivers implied Matt Sharp would be let back in the band when Mikey Walsh left, and then got so excited about Scott Shriner that he wouldn't let his second banana back in the group, which SUCKS!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i think he and matt had talked about matt beng in the video for Island in the Sun (the 2nd one), but they ultimately decided not to do it.

There's a GREAT version "Please Let That Be You" at mattsharp.net - it's an older version that is arranged in large part by rivers. i never noticed the song on ROTR; this version though is really nice though.

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the songwriting on all of ROTR is fine, but the performances tend to be kind of sluggish after Friends of P.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The Good Life
El Scorcho
Pink Triangle
Why Bother?
Only In Dreams
Undone
The World Has Turned and Left Me Here
Island in the Sun
Suzanne
Say It Ain't So

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

what is everyone expecting of their 5th record?

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Saturday, 21 June 2003 00:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'd guess that the next Weezer album will be a bunch of pop rock tunes, and that about half of them will be brilliant pop tunes, and the rest will just be sort of okay.

You know, pretty much the same thing as the last four albums.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 21 June 2003 03:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

thing is, it was supposed to come out MONTHS ago, and then the website stopped posting updates and there was an article on mtv.com about Rivers wanting to make an album of acoustic and orchestral versions of previous Weezer classics.

best case scenario: Rivers realized he's basically reading the phone book over the great riffs he writes as often as he farts and has decided to just STOP for a second and rediscover his lyrical muse by rediscovering his best songs.

worst case scenario: he's making a stop-gap album so that the audience doesn't realize he's reading the phone book over great riffs.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 21 June 2003 16:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You're really that impressed by his riffs?

I think his vocal melodies are what carry the band, the actual musical arrangements aren't nearly as exciting to me.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 21 June 2003 17:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

you could replace the word "riffs" with vocal melodies if you like (or we can just settle on the word "hooks"). It's the lyrics that clearly went down the crapper since "Pinkerton."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 21 June 2003 18:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Anthony Miccio is right about how the performances sound sluggish on Return of the Rentals except for Friend of P. They almost sound asleep! But the second album of the Rentals is much much better. On that one, everyone sounds excited.

Applepie Baseball, Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Just all of PINKETRON is all you need.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The second Rentals album is really quite nice.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the second rentals record tries to make good songs out of poor songs through loads of "production"

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Saturday, 21 June 2003 22:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

jel, I do love you so.

Josh (Josh), Sunday, 22 June 2003 00:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

shit, take off Waiting on You and put on No One Else from my list. This is the greatest song ever. This thread made me drag out all my Weezer stuff, I wanted to let you all know.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 21:59 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

awesome!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Haha like it wasn't sitting on the top of my stack of CDs. I "drag out the Weezer" like three times a week. It's my secret band obsession.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

El Scorcho
Hash Pipe
The World Has Turned...
Tired of Sex
In The Garage
O Girlfriend
Buddy Holly
Undone
This Christmas Song
December

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Cause i've been listening to the blue album and pinkerton alot lately

Only In Dreams
Undone (The Sweater Song)
Getchoo
In The Garage
El Scorcho
No One Else
Surf Wax America
Say It Ain't So
Pink Triangle
Tired Of Sex

Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Sunday, 17 April 2005 15:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The entire first album. Alternately, the entire second album.

Is it okay if I think this is a really lame answer?

Let's Sew Our Pants Together
Devotion
American Girls
Undone The Sweater Song
No One Else
No Other One
The Good Life
El Scorcho
Falling For You
Across The Sea

Or if Matt Sharp originals (that were intended for Weezer) are allowed, replaced "American Girls" with "Mrs Jones," that early version of "Please Let That Be You."

billstevejim, Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

My mistake, "Mrs Young." !!

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 April 2008 04:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

say it ain't so
the world has turned and left me here
only in dreams
in the garage
tired of sex
pink triangle
devotion
suzanne
jamie
you gave your love to me softly

6335, Saturday, 19 April 2008 06:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

My new 10...

Undone The Sweater Song
Say It Ain't So
I Just Threw Out The Love Of My Dreams
Susanne
Lullaby for Wayne
Thief You've Taken All That Was Me
You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
No One Else
El Scorcho
Tired Of Sex
The Good Life
Falling For You

impossible, so i had to do 12.

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 October 2009 07:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also the demo'd Rentals track "Frisbee Days" receives honorable mention.

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 October 2009 07:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

no particular order. probably 3 or 4 i had to leave off that wanted on.

My Name Is Jonas
Say It Ain't So
No Other One
No One Else
Jaime
I Just Threw Out the Love of My Dreams
The Good Life
Surf Wax America
Across the Sea
Only In Dreams

Adam Bruneau, Monday, 26 October 2009 04:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't Let Go
Photograph
Hash Pipe
Island in the Sun
Crab
Knock-down Drag-out
Smile
Simple Pages
Glorious Day
O Girlfriend

alexfromnycderpoolera (kingkongvsgodzilla), Monday, 26 October 2009 12:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Sorry y'all, it's challoppy, but I believe it's true)

alexfromnycderpoolera (kingkongvsgodzilla), Monday, 26 October 2009 12:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

you really think "crab" is better than anything on the first two albums?

da croupier, Monday, 26 October 2009 14:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I love Crab. I don't like much on the first two albums. No bullshit.

alexfromnycderpoolera (kingkongvsgodzilla), Monday, 26 October 2009 14:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

that new single is really fuckin good

Nanobots: HOOSTEEND (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 26 October 2009 14:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

thank you thread for reminding me how great "Jamie" is. Hadn't heard it in probably 10 years and damn... immediate smile on my face. now i gotta hunt down that dgc rarities disc that my old roommate stole.

Moreno, Monday, 26 October 2009 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

ewwww "Crab" gross

billstevejim, Monday, 26 October 2009 20:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

Negativland
Waiting on You
In the Garage
Across the Sea
No One Else
Why Bother?
Mykel & Carli
Pink Triangle
Susanne
You Gave Your Love to Me Softly

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:27 (four years ago) Permalink

good interview with Rivers today on marc maron

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:28 (four years ago) Permalink

Maron ruined it for me. Seemed to be pushing the Rivers is crazy angle pretty hard and in turn Rivers clammed up.

DavidLeeRoth, Monday, 29 September 2014 18:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah, imo Maron had imagined some kind of weird narrative for Cuomo's life that didn't fit (and was full of things I don't remember ever hearing about). But enh...didn't have a lot invested in this episode anyway.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 September 2014 18:42 (four years ago) Permalink

Rivers supposedly spent a long time (post Pinkertown) just bouncing a ball against the wall in an apartment where all the walls and windows were painted black. He's also done plenty of weird songwriting experiments over the years, but if that's the angle Maron wanted to go he shouldn't have framed it as "remember when you were insane and did these weird things?"

DavidLeeRoth, Monday, 29 September 2014 18:50 (four years ago) Permalink

as usual he didn't do his research, which i expected, given that i thought it was pretty good. i knew he wasn't going to be asking about songs from the black hole or something

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:55 (four years ago) Permalink

a POX for these guys = surprisingly difficult to do

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:26 (four years ago) Permalink

(well maybe not surprisingly. I've always maintained that their eventual singles collection will be their third best album.)

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:28 (four years ago) Permalink

easy.

Don't Let Go
Photograph
Hash Pipe
Island in the Sun
Crab
Knock-down Drag-out
Smile
Simple Pages
Glorious Day
O Girlfriend

how's life, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:29 (four years ago) Permalink

oh wait, I forgot this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qbKkkG7Q2o

how's life, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:33 (four years ago) Permalink

i just threw out the love of my dreams
slave
holiday
da vinci
pink triangle
only in dreams
blowin' my stack
jamie
keep fishin'
smile

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:17 (four years ago) Permalink

decided today that "blowin' my stack" is the best weezer song ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H1Aao1_9gY

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:17 (four years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

This is my pick for the most underrated Weezer song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI-jAhAU1eY

Evan R, Thursday, 12 April 2018 20:24 (six months ago) Permalink


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