Say something charitable about the Eagles.

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Can 27,000,000 fans be wrong?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

glen frey and donald henley all have lots of money to give to worthy causes, if they were at all charitably minded.

that's the best that i can do!

Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, and very wrong! i have nothing charitable at all to say about the eagles. Peaceful easy feeling, my ass.

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll admit I'm kinda frikkin' curious to hear more. Though the ideal place to hear it would be on a beanbag with LOTS of pot. and lots of female eagle fans who know all the words.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

are you kidding, the eagles RULE! self-pitying coke rock, widdley wee guitar solos, "new kid in town" and "lying eyes" as undies-man anthems, "one of these nights" has a killer intro and is one of my favourite songs ever, it has those lovely little grunty guitar bits in the verses. "witchy woman" is classic in the way that ALL songs about bad ladies are classic, even ones by cliff richard. and umm i just really enjoy don henley's vocals and drumming.

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Too many nights in pool halls in rural Illinois have forever burned the Eagles' discography into my memory, and I can only hope that I inherit the Alzheimer's that afflicted my great-grandfather.

That's not a good thing, though....well, that charity part seems spot-on.

ham on rye (ham on rye), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

"take it to the limit" has passable billy sherrill/seventies nashville-stylee country-pop music. though the lyrics are the usual eagles whiny nonsense.

they had enough sense to hire joe walsh, who provided comic relief when glen and don were snorting coke in their hottubs.

Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

the song names dropped here remind me how little I've heard. I love several of Don Henley's solo singles though.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it still the case that The Eagles' Greatest Hits: Volume One is the biggest selling album, worldwide, ever? I know this was true at one point. Talk about life in the fucking fastlane.

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and Limp Bizkit samples "Life In The Fast Lane" on "Livin' It Up," which may be the Bizkit boys best song (which they dedicate to Ben Stiller, Durst's "favorite muthafucka")

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

As of Nov. 2002, yes. See figure cited above.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

oh i'd forgotten "take it to the limit". its great too, for the reasons stated by tad.

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

disjam's cover of 'take the money and run' is fun

Millar (Millar), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that SNL thing where Ben Stiller gets it on with Don Henley was pretty funny

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

"Boys of Summer" is a great, great song

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

yes.

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm really feeling Walsh's "In the City" lately, although the lyrix piss me off. But it makes excellent end-credits music for The Warriors, after the big showdown on the beach at Coney Island.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Not as good as the use of "Ooh Child" at the end of Over the Edge though.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

or the cheap trick intro to over the edge that just might be the greatest beginning of any movie ever made.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

They're actually kind of good, have a keener sense of group harmony than any other guy group save CSNY, and are the least-listened-to group of the Usual Whipping Boy Suspects: people hate on them often because of what they "stand for" without examining their sometimes-interesting tropes

that SNL uses them as a butt of jokes=I am right

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and the eagles had a slew of great songs. tons of them. they should be on that concepsual thread too, cuz they did a concept album about cowboys.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

they're not CSNY.

rumple, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Something charitable about the Eagles? That is a toughie. Well, in a way, their coke-crazed, bloated, flatulent pomposity indirectly inspired the nihilistic fury of Punk Rock, so that's kind of backhanded compliment.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you a robot?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean I laughed heartily at that post, but still...

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Glenn Frey open up for Tina Turner when I was 13. It was my first stadium show and Tina was amazing so I guess I have some relatively warm spillover feelings for Gelnn and via him the Eagles. Getting there late and catching only his last two songs was also a bonus.

H (Heruy), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha - I was actually thinking about starting a thread like this, thanks to Tad's recent round of "Defending the Indefensible"s. I was kinda waiting to see if he'd do it, but I see he's weighed in here with a none-too-favorable comment.

I think they're pretty decent. I never turn them off when they come on classic rock radio. Well, except for "Take It To the Limit". I really just think it is not a very good song, it's just very sluggish and bathetic.

But The Long Run is a fantastic album, especially the second side - it's pretty flawless. I'd always loved "The Long Run" and "Heartache Tonight" from growing up with 'em, and then during a high school summer break trip to Florida a buddy brought the Long Run cassette. We played it constantly. Wow - "In the City" is great, I love Joe Walsh. Woah - "Those Shoes"! Eric B. sampled that cut! Wow - "The Greeks Don't Want no Freaks" - that's a pretty funny song!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Now, one of di smith's points I agree with: "One of These Nights"'s intro sounds superb. Still. In a sorta out-of-time manner, almost.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you a robot?.....I mean I laughed heartily at that post, but still...


Not liking the Eagles makes me a robot? I don't like Steely Dan either....what does that make me?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I like most of Hotel California. Travis Tritt's cover of "Take It Easy" was at one time my favorite song, back when I was a country-listening youngster.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

heartache tonight isso stompy its practically glamrock.

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

plus, "Dirty Laundry" is total punk rock!! ( hee hee ) seriously, always loved that one. that kick em when they're UP, kick em when they're down robot chorus rules.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

They were far better than the Flying Burrito Brotherrs, or any alt-country band you can name.... Well actually, they may be one of my favorite bands ever, if I decided to make a list. I've honestly never much understood what people DON'T like about them. They were great.

chuck, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I've just never gotten into that bad facial hair, suede chaps, hickory smoked, Californian 70's mirror-sunglasses & cowboy boots brand of masturbatory herky-jerk. Call me crazy.

"Dirty Laundry," not to be pedantic, is Henley SOLO, not The Eagles. But, calling it Punk Rock is a bad call.....decrying the media for hounding celebrities and stirring up gossip is hardly punk.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

no ones mentioned that big lebowski scene yet...

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The Langley School version of "Desperado" is one of the most haunting things I've ever heard in my life.

Ben Boyer, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"And you'll have to eat your lunch all by yourself" = best breakup lyric EVAH

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

>>I've just never gotten into that bad facial hair, suede chaps, hickory smoked, Californian 70's mirror-sunglasses & cowboy boots brand of masturbatory herky-jerk. <<

What does this have to do with their music, though? (I never said I'd wannna invite them over to my house for DINNER for crissakes....Well, maybe I'd invite Joe Walsh. He'd be FUN to eat with!)

ps) They rock harder than most metal (and punk) bands, by the way.

chuck, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

The scene in The Big Lebowski where The Dude gets kicked out of the cab for hating on the Eagles is perhaps the most sympathetic moment in film.

Adam A. (Keiko), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

They spawned Don Henley, who in turn wrote 'Boys of Summer', which inspired the Ataris to cover it, which allows me to definitively name the most gratuitous cover ever.

Also, there was a pretty funny Onion story based on 'Take it Easy'

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"Dirty Laundry" is an awful, awful song

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Not liking the Eagles makes me a robot?

No, not that, just that your response was soooo patently "Alex in NYC." It's cool, though... it was funny!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

James is right (though "Boys Of Summer," "All She Wants To Do Is..." and "Last Worthless Evening" aren't)

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

if joe walsh is the only tolerable eagle, it's only because he wasn't really an eagle to begin with ... he was just a hired hand.

the eagles were even more robotic than kraftwerk or their progeny, FWIW.

Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

What does this have to do with their music, though?

I was thinking of a way to lambast their whole aesthetic. It's not just their style that bugs me (which it does), but their music doesn't really speak to me. I can't really empathize with "Life in the Fast Lane" or any of that shit. Also, their little morality tales lamenting the hollow shenanigans of Californian celebrity culture rings a bit false when you examine their own excesses.

They rock harder than most metal (and punk) bands, by the way.

Seems like you've been partaking in a bit too much of the "warm smell of colitas", Chuck my friend.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

"Hotel California" scares Christians* because they think it's Satanic. So that's kind of cool.

*By "Christians" I don't mean all Christians, just the kind who get their information about rock'n'roll from pamphlets distributed at church youth group conferences. One of my friends in college had one of these pamphlets, and it remains one of my favorite pieces of music criticism. I wish I had stolen it from him.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The Eagles weren't cool enough to be Satanic.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

it used to be "I can't tell you why" was the only eagles song I liked but now I like "one of these nights" also cuz it reminds me of neil young's "safeway cart" alot. my resistance to the group overall has worn down considerably (as it has to america and seals & croft. time heals all wounds.)

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

if dostoyevski (see the chapter in brothers karamazov where Lucifer pays a visit to Ivan Karamazov) is correct, then Satan is indeed quite a shabby bore. in which case, the eagles could qualify as satanic -- coke-induced mental numbness = moral numbness!

Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

>>he wasn't really an eagle to begin with ... he was just a hired hand.<<

workin on the dreams he planned to try,
the days go by....

Metal and punk bands tend to sound LOUDER than the Eagles. But to rock HARD, you need a rhythm section, Alex. (And right, Motorhead and AC/DC and the County Bishops and Guns N Roses and Turbonegro and Nazareth and etc etc etc have rhythm sections. I didn't say the Eagles rock harder than ALL metal and punk bands. Just MOST of them.)

Anyway, I think you proved what I've always suspected: People hate the Eagles because of what the Eagles supposedly STOOD for. But I don't CARE what they stood for. I care about their SONGS.

chuck, Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Though I've not heard any Swans, I'm willing to argue that with you Tim. But just not at the moment. Or any other moment actually.

Rob M (Rob M), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't believe there have been 138 answers on a thread entitled "Say something charitable about the Eagles" without anyone having mentioned Linda Ronstadt and what a fine backing band they were for her.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Dave Q is SO RIGHT about the Eagles being the American Pink Floyd -- I once tried to convince my mom this was the case so we could listen to Dark Side of the Moon on the car radio. (She didn't buy it.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
wow, "James Dean" is a fairly great song. Another feather in their cap. I guess I should just go ahead and buy On the Border for a buck somewhere. already have Hotel and Long Run of course, just never thought I needed pre-Walsh stuff beyond GH 1; Dave Q right as always.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:28 (fifteen years ago) link

this also came up now on my DEEP CUTS classic rock station

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:29 (fifteen years ago) link

ha -- now the classic rock station is playing "Ripples" by Genesis from Trick of the tail!! holy shit this classic rock station rocks!!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:32 (fifteen years ago) link

"Journey of the Sorcerer" is nice. SPACE BANJO!

Telephonething, Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
"New Kid in Town" is the only one that's every struck me as extraordinary in some way.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

"ever struck me as extraordinary"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I'm agreeing with JBR lately that In The City is a standout awesome song among many duds.

Hurting 2, Friday, 11 July 2008 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

"Those Shoes" and "Disco STrangler" are superbly fuckwithable sample-sources. (But they'll surely sue your ass if you ever try to deprive 'em of royalties.)

I still may check out On The Border or Desperado next time I find 'em for a buck.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 11 July 2008 07:18 (twelve years ago) link

amazing how the 70s era east coast rock crit hate for these dudes had such a long lasting influence. i don't own any of their records but it's funny how i rarely change the station when their tunes come on my car radio, i think that is the best context for their stuff.

velko, Friday, 11 July 2008 07:38 (twelve years ago) link

James Gang's "Rides Again" album is so, so awesome.

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 11 July 2008 09:59 (twelve years ago) link

There comes a point once or twice a year where it's somehow the right time to listen to the Eagles. It's right time for the peaceful, easy feeling.

Also, Joe Walsh did a song called 'I like big tits'.

gnarly sceptre, Friday, 11 July 2008 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

"Those Shoes" and "Disco STrangler" are superbly fuckwithable sample-sources. (But they'll surely sue your ass if you ever try to deprive 'em of royalties.)

"Never Let Her Slip Away" followed by "Heartache Tonight" to thread.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 11 July 2008 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

They harmonize well. I only like a few of their songs. What really bugs me about this band are their fans("The f---g Eagles, dude!") and their inflated self-image (from reading interviews with the band).

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 11 July 2008 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

Not to mention Radio 2's unending fixation of them as the apex of all popular music.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 11 July 2008 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

whereas in reality they were the Bachman-Turner Overdrive to the Burritos' Guess Who.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 11 July 2008 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

How could the Eagles possibly be the apex of all popular music?!?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 11 July 2008 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

. . . maybe the nadir.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 11 July 2008 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

what's with the eagles hate?

i've noticed that lately, my dislike of all things played to death on the radio, has now been replaced with nostalgia for things i simply don't hear much living overseas (eagles, boston, van halen etc) which gives me a new understanding of why everybody likes this stuff in the first place. i mean, nostalgia (usually for middle american soundtrack to drunken tailgate parties and fumbling teenager sex after the high school football game, but whatever) plays such a big part in the continuing popularity of your classic rock fodder, now i think i'm beginning to finally get it.

anyway, charitable thoughts towards the eagles:

good songs! what on earth are you guys dismissing all those fantastic tunes for?
great harmonies
what's wrong with their lyrics? if you can't relate you can't relate, but really, i don't think that makes them sucky, i think most of their lyrics are very well writen, and work perfectly at what they're trying to get accross
the afore-mentioned 27-gazillion-selling best of album doesn't have a weak song on it
pisses off trendier-than-though critic types, and hipsters in general

granted, i can see how having to listen to them constantly on classic rock radio at the job site or whatever might turn anyone off.

messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 08:22 (twelve years ago) link

"Desperado" is a GREAT album!

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 09:01 (twelve years ago) link

Then I am a sucker for most anyone with that kind of wonderful vocal harmonies. Surely, they were not Queen or ELO, but they were still great at that bit.

Whenever they attempted to "rock out" they usually failed though.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

They make the worst Flying Burrito Bros. songs sound a bit less worse.

Mike McGooney-gal, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

They were friends with Warren Zevon.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

They pissed off David Crosby

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Then I am a sucker for most anyone with that kind of wonderful vocal harmonies

They did have great vocal harmonies, I admit.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 26 August 2008 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

I remember reading that Bernie Leadon was a big reason for the harmonies. He whipped the others in shape, vocally speaking, and worked on the arrangements. That said, they're good harmonies, but they've got nothing on the Dillards!

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

They played the only bluegrass songs I ever heard at a Yes show. What they were doing opening for Yes I'm not too sure.

ellaguru, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

Felder's book is pretty hilarious.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/Image/eagles08.jpg

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Eagles - Get Over It lyrics
I turn on the tube and what do I see
A whole lotta people cryin' "Don't blame me"
They point their crooked little fingers ar everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves
Victim of this, victim of that
Your momma's too thin; your daddy's too fat

Funny but kind of damaging to the Eagles' legacy. They did it to themselves by stooping to that level.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Saturday, 18 September 2010 13:03 (ten years ago) link

You gotta let somebody love you

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 September 2010 17:00 (ten years ago) link

Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JowmXbaGSoU

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 September 2010 17:01 (ten years ago) link

f--k the eagles.

good harmonies, tho.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 18 September 2010 17:10 (ten years ago) link

I think The Eagles are great but the fact that they have come up with poo like this makes me suspicious of them.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Saturday, 18 September 2010 17:28 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

^^would watch

timellison, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 06:55 (seven years ago) link

yeah I hate the Eagles but I kinda want to see that.

Influential Acid Jazz Pioneer (crüt), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 07:01 (seven years ago) link

Somje of them had interesting pre-band histories like Gene Clark affiliations etc.
1st lp isn't quite as bad schlock as later stuff, and there are some decent live sets from around that time apparently.

paved the way for punk? Even if they were one of the things it was reacting to.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 07:39 (seven years ago) link

did some good backing vocals on other people's records is about as generous as i can get

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 13:58 (seven years ago) link

did they inject New York strippers into their faces?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:32 (seven years ago) link

Don Henley is now David Bowie.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:32 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/extranapkins/status/234520243924516864

Barnaby, Hardly, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 15:34 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlOSWRZ4bl0

buzza, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:15 (seven years ago) link

Beastie Boys sampling "Those Shoes" on "High Plains Drifter" effing rules.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:33 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

The interludes on their forthcoming live album have titles.

https://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/eagles-live-from-the-forum-mmxviii-preview-take-it-easy/

2. Joe Walsh: “How ya doin?”
5. Don Henley: “Good evening, ladies and gentlemen”
9. Timothy B. Schmit: “Hey, everybody, that’s Joe Walsh”
12. Don Henley: “Just want to thank all of you…”
14. Deacon Frey: “Hello, everybody…”
19. Vince Gill: “How about a nice hand for California, man…”
24. Joe Walsh: “Is everybody OK?”

StanM, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:08 (six days ago) link

Bonus track: Don Henley: “Well, yeah”

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Friday, 16 October 2020 10:38 (six days ago) link


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