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Does anyone know of any new eminem songs? When is he gonna get a new
CD out
does anyone else think his shit is getting worse as his career gets better I mean his shit used to have so much feeling in it like pain and shit now its all just like haha fuck u i a m the shit?????????

poop, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

No, really, you need to drink more.

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

um i agree with u poop his music is still good as hell but he has lost some feeling

coopdeville, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

his stuff was better when it was all "fuck you i am the shit"

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

which it never really was but you see what i'm getting at, i think...

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

also, when does his next movie come out?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I do believe he was once funnier

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

anybody think Eminem's voice (not his rhymes, his voice) sounds a little like Jadakiss'

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

no.

The Brainwasher, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

never thought of it but that constipated tone he affects sometimes is a little bit like Kiss.

Alex in Baltimore, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Eminem was really good once upon a time. What a fabled, far off land.

chap, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

let's start an internet rumor that he's dead.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Eminem died the moment he thought to himself "Gee, let me remove every ounce of humor from my albums and emphasize the soap opera! Oh and...I'LL SING on a few tracks too!"

for the record I really loved the Slim Shady LP, and to a lesser (albeit not much) degree, The Marshall Mathers LP.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

No thread on "I'm having a Relapse"?

baaderonixx, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

FYI

baaderonixx, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

New single Crack a bottle on Imeem. On a first listen, it sounds somewhat underwhelming.

Wally West, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

I just noticed that Eminem backwards is Men IME. Men in my experience. Does Eminem have a secret past?

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

this anti-Trump "freestyle" shit is the most embarrassing thing white Americans have done since getting Trump elected

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:13 (one year ago) Permalink

lol

#PEAK https://t.co/pXX87JF2OY

— Desus Nice (@desusnice) October 11, 2017

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:20 (one year ago) Permalink

A LOT of ppl are sharing this in my FB world, ppl who dont like rap usually i should say

professor of postmalonial studies (m bison), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:41 (one year ago) Permalink

shit sounded like James Corden's Grammys rap

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I guess this means it’s the end of Eminem being the only rapper on rock radio.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 06:13 (one year ago) Permalink

It’s not brilliant but I love how he’s not only attacking Trump but his own fans who support Trump by literally saying “fuck you” to them. I imagine there’s actually a big overlap of Trump supporters and Eminem fans.

Might not seem like a huge thing but if there’s one thing he gives (gave?) a fuck about it’s his fans.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 06:18 (one year ago) Permalink

It’s not brilliant but I love how he’s not only attacking Trump but his own fans who support Trump by literally saying “fuck you” to them. I imagine there’s actually a big overlap of Trump supporters and Eminem fans.

otm

I rolled my eyes when I saw people talking about this yesterday. But I just watched and damn.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:04 (one year ago) Permalink

A LOT of ppl are sharing this in my FB world, ppl who dont like rap usually i should say

good point. so maybe this is good?

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Musically, it's just ok, fine. But as an op-ed it's respectable and cogent and way more fun than putting something up on HuffPo.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:33 (one year ago) Permalink

It’s not brilliant but I love how he’s not only attacking Trump but his own fans who support Trump by literally saying “fuck you” to them. I imagine there’s actually a big overlap of Trump supporters and Eminem fans.

otm. But I wish he'd framed the song around his contempt for the people who voted for him. It may not have alienated fans: nothing Americans love more than to feel contempt for other Americans.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:37 (one year ago) Permalink

I can't imagine reacting to this with anything beyond mortification

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Congratulations.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:00 (one year ago) Permalink

there was that fandom map of pop/rap/rock stars feature in the NYT a few weeks ago, and it was notable how many fans Em has in places where rap is not traditionally very popular--i.e. trump country in the great plains and midwest

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Love this woke sexist and liberal pro-military garbage. https://t.co/kDD8oVPAoA

— San (@sansdn) October 11, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:04 (one year ago) Permalink

go back to ILE bud

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:06 (one year ago) Permalink

shocking that the guy who made his bones rapping about murdering his wife isn't a devout socialist

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:08 (one year ago) Permalink

it's not even really about the lame #resistance sentiments tbh it's just that he sounds like a middling slam poet and the portentous staging makes it sound even worse

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:14 (one year ago) Permalink

I can't say I really dug this (it just didn't seem very good tbh - and BET Awards rap ciphers are usually one of my favorite annual events) but y'know whatever good for him for using his platform in this way.

how much are we looking forward to Trump's clapback and a week of more dumb grandstanding/media attacks

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:17 (one year ago) Permalink

I disagree – his enjambments, pauses, timing are his best in fifteen years.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:17 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm not debating the musical merits of the freestyle (i wasn't the biggest fan), I do think that it was a worthwhile message--how many white pop stars have spoken out this forcefully against Trump?

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:19 (one year ago) Permalink

as long as you think calling Yam a bitch is socialist, voodoo

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:20 (one year ago) Permalink

"FDT" is a million times more forceful (even with the Secret Service-prompted edits) and is actually listenable

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:21 (one year ago) Permalink

(I get that it's not strictly a fair comparison)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:22 (one year ago) Permalink

there's tons of media figures goin after Trump, but idk what constitutes "white pop star" these days tbh (or why I should care since they're such a minor part of the media landscape at this point - Em himself is mostly irrelevant)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:25 (one year ago) Permalink

as long as you think calling Yam a bitch is socialist, voodoo

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:20 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

forgot my sarcasm font at home i guess

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:25 (one year ago) Permalink

That Eminem, how dare he!

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:31 (one year ago) Permalink

em is mostly irrelevant to people who actively pay attention to rap music, but he's got huge allegiances in parts of the country where rap is less popular

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:37 (one year ago) Permalink

it's cool, you can just call them deplorables.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Em just did.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:40 (one year ago) Permalink

he's got huge allegiances in parts of the country where rap is less popular

Yes, and he's used this to devastating effect. Just remember how powerful "Mosh" was!!!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:40 (one year ago) Permalink

lol otm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:42 (one year ago) Permalink

tbf I will fully cop to my ambivalence being at least partly rooted in the fact that I've never liked him. His technical skill is undeniable but his exploitative combo of self-absorption and opportunism (not to mention his 4chan-style LOOK HOW OFFENSIVE I AM schtick) has always put me off.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:44 (one year ago) Permalink

I remind myself every few months that his sales have remained impressive for years:

In the United States, the album debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, selling more than 792,000 copies in its first week, becoming the second-biggest debut of 2013 and the second-largest sales week of the year, only behind the debut of Justin Timberlake's The 20/20 Experience, which bowed at number one with 968,000 in March. The Marshall Mathers LP 2 logs the sixth-biggest sales week of the past five years. The album also marks Eminem's seventh No. 1 album.[106] In its second week the album dropped to number two, selling 210,000 more copies.[107] In its third week the album returned to number one on the Billboard 200, selling 120,000 more copies.[108] In its fourth week the album dropped to number two on the Billboard 200, selling 199,000 more copies.[109] The album sold 1,727,000 copies in the United States in 2013, making it the second best-selling album of the year.[110] As of April 2015, the album has sold 2,244,000 copies in the United States according to Nielsen Soundscan

TMMLP 2 was released before Soundscan included streaming. I wonder how a new album would sell now.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:45 (one year ago) Permalink

...but I got tuckered out around the fourth song. I can't deal with his voice/persona for more than 10 minutes at a time anymore and I re-remember this every time there's a new album.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 31 August 2018 13:35 (three months ago) Permalink

hehe I can relate to that

niels, Friday, 31 August 2018 13:44 (three months ago) Permalink

Via Variety:

When Eminem dropped his surprise album “Kamikaze” late Thursday night, hip-hop fans of a certain age immediately noticed that the cover was both an homage to and a spoof of the Beastie Boys’ 1986 debut album, “Licensed to Ill.” A rep for the rapper confirmed that the homage was intentional; a rep for the Beasties said the group had not yet commented.


LOL... this is “news”? (and: “...of a certain age”??)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Ok this is pretty good

President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 02:32 (three months ago) Permalink

Love dummies who don't get that tribute art has been a thing in hip hop since forever

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 September 2018 02:34 (three months ago) Permalink

Idk why this shit so funny to me pic.twitter.com/uyPvTzp1Vb

— 💜NAT PUFF💜 (@LeftAtLondon) November 19, 2017

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 1 September 2018 14:34 (three months ago) Permalink

this album is brutal
I really feel bad for him, he seems so stunted ... imagine being his age and dropping homophobic slurs about Tyler who's like 15 years younger than him

he's like the Yngwie Malmsteen of rap at good point, so much effort and technique going into songs no one will remember 2 months from now... it's kind of impressive in like the way it's impressive to watch the slam dunk contest during the NBA all star well, but not really musical in any way

also I really hate the thing where "real" rappers define themselves by what they're not, as if shitting on Lil Xanax or whatever SoundCloud rapper is actually meaningful

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 September 2018 15:25 (three months ago) Permalink

otm. and his voice is just not pleasant to listen to.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:07 (three months ago) Permalink

Other successful rappers in their 40s tend to become moguls and stuff, don’t they? I guess he’s just About the Music (even if he’s embarrassing itself, going by some of these reviews)?

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:39 (three months ago) Permalink

I felt like Em lost most of his humor and ability to create classic albums by The Eminem Show.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:13 (three months ago) Permalink

i was really excited about this album when i heard he was rapping about venom but it turns out he's just rapping about the spider-man bad guy and not the trve cvlt metal band, so fuck him

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:25 (three months ago) Permalink

lol rapping about Cronos would be dope

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:28 (three months ago) Permalink

there's plenty of rappers his age and older than still make good records

I don't know if 4:44 was completely successful but at least Jay was trying to make an album from a real perfective of where his life was at the time

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:37 (three months ago) Permalink

Lol rusho

Οὖτις, Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:38 (three months ago) Permalink

Eminem's the 40 something gamer who yells QUIT SPAMMING MOVES in tourneys

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:48 (three months ago) Permalink

Eminem's the 40 something gamer who yells QUIT SPAMMING MOVES in tourneys

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal)

turns out dude is legit a world-class donkey kong player

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 1 September 2018 18:28 (three months ago) Permalink

new Ghostface is promising, Snoop could become the Willie Nelson of rap, comfortably releasing variations of the same good album every year

can't think of more high profile rappers +40 doing well but I'm not thinking that hard either

niels, Saturday, 1 September 2018 18:31 (three months ago) Permalink

but yeah the Yngwie Malmsteen analogy is otm

niels, Saturday, 1 September 2018 18:31 (three months ago) Permalink

as the kids say... I'm dead

This funniest shit I’ve seen all day g. He say this how Eminem raps. pic.twitter.com/9lc8cWA5yd

— Larry Legend (@larryislegend) September 2, 2018

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 September 2018 20:16 (three months ago) Permalink

can't think of more high profile rappers +40 doing well but I'm not thinking that hard either

E-40? more like E-50+

also DJ Quik is 48, Run The Jewels are both 43 and at the peak of their careers

▫◌▫ (sic), Monday, 3 September 2018 21:26 (three months ago) Permalink

oh yeah Quik!

niels, Monday, 3 September 2018 21:44 (three months ago) Permalink

You can already sense the climate is startin' to shift
To these kids you no longer exist
Went from rainin' cats and dogs in this bitch
To tiny drops, little drips
And by the time your reign is over, you'll hardly be missed

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:30 (three months ago) Permalink

And my favorite orange soda is Sunkist

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:31 (three months ago) Permalink

He’s more self-aware than Malmsteen. Also I think he’s about to break the record for artist with more consecutive #1 albums (9). Had no idea his previous albums went #1.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:32 (three months ago) Permalink

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8078653/eminem-revival-makes-chart-history-with-eighth-consecutive-no-1-debut-on

This was the previous album. I assume this one will get to #1 if Revival did.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:39 (three months ago) Permalink

Who holds the record presently?

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 03:11 (three months ago) Permalink

(xpost – I see that article answers the question)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 03:12 (three months ago) Permalink

Was driving around the other day and my wife was in control of the music. She starts playing something and I'm all, what the hell is this? And she goes, it's the new Eminem. And I say, why, you didn't listen to the last three or four new Eminems, and they were bad, too. And she says, hey, I just saw this was out to today and wanted to listen to it. (30 seconds goes by) Yeah, she goes, this is bad. And then she turns it off.

Folks making fun of his style are endlessly funny to me. Sometimes when I'm out for a walk I start coming up with ridiculous angry Eminem rhymes. "Like a constable I am constantly able to beat your head on a table til you bleed red like Day-glo or Fay-go or whatever shit glow, no, flow, 12 inches of snow won't stop this shit show, like a ho you don't know showing up wrecking homes were you go when you want to be alone and atone for some shit that you done, like signing your name in the snow with number one, or worse, number two that I got from you when you shit your pants like you were two, wrapped it up once your ass blew, oh whoops, did I offend you? whoopiedoo..."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 03:31 (three months ago) Permalink

That said, I just played the Oops! Slim Shady Did It Again mashup a couple of hours ago, and I still absolutely love it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 03:33 (three months ago) Permalink

I kind of like the backing track in The Fall, sounds like a Jim Jonsin production and I love his work. he has worked with Eminem in the past so it could actually be him but no idea if the credits have been published for this one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 03:42 (three months ago) Permalink

Production-wise this is probably his best album in a while. I haven’t been following his career much tbh but I can’t remember liking any of his backing tracks for like a decade.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 03:45 (three months ago) Permalink

"More self aware than Malmsteen" might be a new standard in faint praise

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 05:59 (three months ago) Permalink

that Chris D'Elia clip just kills me, I can't get over it

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 06:01 (three months ago) Permalink

Malmsteen at least seems to be having fun

Em was fun once (or at least, jokey)

niels, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:02 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah that's the thing he's lost the kinda antic Looney tunes "hi kids do you like violence?" aspect

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 11:24 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah in some weird way his stance now is more that of an offended person

niels, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 11:30 (three months ago) Permalink

I still like the bonkers Em flow, and I would be riding HAAAARD for this thing if was just an EP of tracks 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 10 (i.e., just the mixtape energy stuff with none of the sad reflections, Marvel crossovers, ex-girlfriend/bad-boyfrend whinges)

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 13:38 (three months ago) Permalink

I honestly think the Em flow is really just a continuation of a crescendo of the ideas of MCing that started with Moe Dee/Caz/Melle Mel, sent through G Rap and Kane, and ultimately spawning like (to point to two extremes) both Biggie and Skribble Jam competitons.

Obviously rap has changed and people expect more than just raw chops, but my Twitter feed of middlebrow media people and weird twitter goons is def ~interesting~ in how they protest too much about the Hopsin/Logic/Cole/Eminem axis of chops but it was only like 4 years ago when every rap tweet/thinkpiece was like "Future said 'You as cold in your heart, you as cold as your heart' and I started weeping openly and inconsolably in the mall" and it's like, idk, maybe hipsters have kind of a narrow idea of what this genre is and a shallow understanding of what it's traditons are.

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 13:49 (three months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/cuNbv9z.jpg

crüt, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 13:53 (three months ago) Permalink

am i so out of touch?

no it’s the children who are wrong

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:03 (three months ago) Permalink

"Normal" is like a Weird Al style parody of a Drake song.

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:11 (three months ago) Permalink

whiney I'd like to think my taste in rap is at least as irrelevant as yours and I love rappity rapping but the thing that gets me is is soooo joyless and not fun

the Black Thought ep from this year he's going off and I find it so much more musical and actually perhaps even better technically in some ways because he can be super technical while still flowing

Hopsin is garbage it's beneath me to even listen to

Logic seems fine but boring

J Cole drives me up a wall I hate his personal

I definitely feel you on the emporers new clothes aspect of reading existential ennui into every SoundCloud dude autotune drooling into his cup

but yeah Em is so exhausting now

The Jean Grae/Quelle Chris album was a gift, so engaging and playful and sometimes sad but genuine skill and old school early Dee weirdness and humor

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Hopsin has some real corny libertarian-ish views, Logic can be cloying with his Mensa-membership-card schtick, Cole is like a parody of a Nas stan. I probably wouldn't throw on any of their records for fun, but its absolutely insane to say these guys can't rap their asses off. The whole "shocked elmo because white guy heard someone rap fast" meme really does sum up that chops are absolutely unfashionable and uncool, which – whatever, like what you wanna like – but it runs counter to what rap was from like 1973 to like 2003. And also discounts that these guys are making some of the most popular rap albums on earth even though a bunch of people who have heard a Gaslight Anthem album thinks they're wack

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:21 (three months ago) Permalink

everyone on earth agrees Em can rap just like everyone agrees Malmsteen can shred. how much value should be placed on that in isolation depends on what type of listener you are I suppose

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:25 (three months ago) Permalink

like how many of the ppl dismissing Em now do so on the basis that his internal rhyme schemes of syllable rate have fallen off

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:27 (three months ago) Permalink

*or

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:27 (three months ago) Permalink


everyone on earth agrees Em can rap just like everyone agrees Malmsteen can shred. how much value should be placed on that in isolation depends on what type of listener you are I suppose

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, September 4, 2018 10:25 AM (three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree with this

I'm just saying rap itself was a competitive, skills-based artform from its earliest years. And while, yes, the genre can/will evolve; I think it's ridiculous to completely dismiss the people who still keep the tradition moving forward.

It's like *telling* that old Eighties/Nineties rappers in my feed are goo-goo-eyed for the new Em, but ILXors are passing around ... Chris D'Elia routines.

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:31 (three months ago) Permalink

Feed vs. squad.

I thought he was at his best when he was at his most reactive/reactionary a la "Without Me." Now that he is not or is certainly much less culturally relevant (imo?), as popular as he may remain he just hasn't found much of a way to write/rhyme himself back into the narrative, and said internal rhyme schemes definitely skirt self-parody minus a big picture hook on which to hang their absurdity.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:35 (three months ago) Permalink

It's like *telling* that old Eighties/Nineties rappers in my feed are goo-goo-eyed for the new Em, but ILXors are passing around 

you are definitely the master of I'm not saying I'm just saying posts where you don't actually say anything just somehow imply that everyone except you doesn't like rap in the right way

I got fuckin vhs tapes of mtv raps don't come sideways like I give a fuck about gaslight anthem

I gave you a specific example of the new Black Thought which is dope that you purposefully ignored...or the new Ka/Animoss thing is incredible, both are more lyrical and musical than Em

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:31 (three months ago) Permalink

Hopsin,Cole logic of course the can * but they can't seem to do anything with it

at that point do we need to stan for Smack DVD/Youtube battle dudes like Daylyt or Iron Solomon?

cuz honestly that's what Em reminds me most of nowadays

Royce is doing much better records in the last few years if you want an example of someone in his own camp

also there is a semi popular West Coast guy named Kendrick Lamar who is pretty popular which seems to suggest that the problem isn't necessarily that people hate skills when they are applied to actually meaningful and dope music

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:36 (three months ago) Permalink


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