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Does anyone know of any new eminem songs? When is he gonna get a new
CD out
does anyone else think his shit is getting worse as his career gets better I mean his shit used to have so much feeling in it like pain and shit now its all just like haha fuck u i a m the shit?????????

poop, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

No, really, you need to drink more.

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

um i agree with u poop his music is still good as hell but he has lost some feeling

coopdeville, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

his stuff was better when it was all "fuck you i am the shit"

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

which it never really was but you see what i'm getting at, i think...

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

also, when does his next movie come out?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I do believe he was once funnier

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

anybody think Eminem's voice (not his rhymes, his voice) sounds a little like Jadakiss'

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

no.

The Brainwasher, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

never thought of it but that constipated tone he affects sometimes is a little bit like Kiss.

Alex in Baltimore, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Eminem was really good once upon a time. What a fabled, far off land.

chap, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

let's start an internet rumor that he's dead.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

Eminem died the moment he thought to himself "Gee, let me remove every ounce of humor from my albums and emphasize the soap opera! Oh and...I'LL SING on a few tracks too!"

for the record I really loved the Slim Shady LP, and to a lesser (albeit not much) degree, The Marshall Mathers LP.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 12 January 2008 03:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

No thread on "I'm having a Relapse"?

baaderonixx, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

FYI

baaderonixx, Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

New single Crack a bottle on Imeem. On a first listen, it sounds somewhat underwhelming.

Wally West, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

I just noticed that Eminem backwards is Men IME. Men in my experience. Does Eminem have a secret past?

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:55 (five years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

this anti-Trump "freestyle" shit is the most embarrassing thing white Americans have done since getting Trump elected

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:13 (one week ago) Permalink

lol

#PEAK https://t.co/pXX87JF2OY

— Desus Nice (@desusnice) October 11, 2017

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:20 (one week ago) Permalink

A LOT of ppl are sharing this in my FB world, ppl who dont like rap usually i should say

professor of postmalonial studies (m bison), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:41 (one week ago) Permalink

shit sounded like James Corden's Grammys rap

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:48 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess this means it’s the end of Eminem being the only rapper on rock radio.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 06:13 (one week ago) Permalink

It’s not brilliant but I love how he’s not only attacking Trump but his own fans who support Trump by literally saying “fuck you” to them. I imagine there’s actually a big overlap of Trump supporters and Eminem fans.

Might not seem like a huge thing but if there’s one thing he gives (gave?) a fuck about it’s his fans.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 06:18 (one week ago) Permalink

It’s not brilliant but I love how he’s not only attacking Trump but his own fans who support Trump by literally saying “fuck you” to them. I imagine there’s actually a big overlap of Trump supporters and Eminem fans.

otm

I rolled my eyes when I saw people talking about this yesterday. But I just watched and damn.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:04 (one week ago) Permalink

A LOT of ppl are sharing this in my FB world, ppl who dont like rap usually i should say

good point. so maybe this is good?

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:05 (one week ago) Permalink

Musically, it's just ok, fine. But as an op-ed it's respectable and cogent and way more fun than putting something up on HuffPo.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:33 (one week ago) Permalink

It’s not brilliant but I love how he’s not only attacking Trump but his own fans who support Trump by literally saying “fuck you” to them. I imagine there’s actually a big overlap of Trump supporters and Eminem fans.

otm. But I wish he'd framed the song around his contempt for the people who voted for him. It may not have alienated fans: nothing Americans love more than to feel contempt for other Americans.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I can't imagine reacting to this with anything beyond mortification

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Congratulations.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:00 (one week ago) Permalink

there was that fandom map of pop/rap/rock stars feature in the NYT a few weeks ago, and it was notable how many fans Em has in places where rap is not traditionally very popular--i.e. trump country in the great plains and midwest

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Love this woke sexist and liberal pro-military garbage. https://t.co/kDD8oVPAoA

— San (@sansdn) October 11, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:04 (one week ago) Permalink

go back to ILE bud

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:06 (one week ago) Permalink

shocking that the guy who made his bones rapping about murdering his wife isn't a devout socialist

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:08 (one week ago) Permalink

it's not even really about the lame #resistance sentiments tbh it's just that he sounds like a middling slam poet and the portentous staging makes it sound even worse

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:14 (one week ago) Permalink

I can't say I really dug this (it just didn't seem very good tbh - and BET Awards rap ciphers are usually one of my favorite annual events) but y'know whatever good for him for using his platform in this way.

how much are we looking forward to Trump's clapback and a week of more dumb grandstanding/media attacks

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I disagree – his enjambments, pauses, timing are his best in fifteen years.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm not debating the musical merits of the freestyle (i wasn't the biggest fan), I do think that it was a worthwhile message--how many white pop stars have spoken out this forcefully against Trump?

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:19 (one week ago) Permalink

as long as you think calling Yam a bitch is socialist, voodoo

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:20 (one week ago) Permalink

"FDT" is a million times more forceful (even with the Secret Service-prompted edits) and is actually listenable

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:21 (one week ago) Permalink

(I get that it's not strictly a fair comparison)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:22 (one week ago) Permalink

there's tons of media figures goin after Trump, but idk what constitutes "white pop star" these days tbh (or why I should care since they're such a minor part of the media landscape at this point - Em himself is mostly irrelevant)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:25 (one week ago) Permalink

as long as you think calling Yam a bitch is socialist, voodoo

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:20 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

forgot my sarcasm font at home i guess

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:25 (one week ago) Permalink

That Eminem, how dare he!

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:31 (one week ago) Permalink

em is mostly irrelevant to people who actively pay attention to rap music, but he's got huge allegiances in parts of the country where rap is less popular

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:37 (one week ago) Permalink

it's cool, you can just call them deplorables.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Em just did.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:40 (one week ago) Permalink

he's got huge allegiances in parts of the country where rap is less popular

Yes, and he's used this to devastating effect. Just remember how powerful "Mosh" was!!!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:40 (one week ago) Permalink

lol otm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:42 (one week ago) Permalink

tbf I will fully cop to my ambivalence being at least partly rooted in the fact that I've never liked him. His technical skill is undeniable but his exploitative combo of self-absorption and opportunism (not to mention his 4chan-style LOOK HOW OFFENSIVE I AM schtick) has always put me off.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I remind myself every few months that his sales have remained impressive for years:

In the United States, the album debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, selling more than 792,000 copies in its first week, becoming the second-biggest debut of 2013 and the second-largest sales week of the year, only behind the debut of Justin Timberlake's The 20/20 Experience, which bowed at number one with 968,000 in March. The Marshall Mathers LP 2 logs the sixth-biggest sales week of the past five years. The album also marks Eminem's seventh No. 1 album.[106] In its second week the album dropped to number two, selling 210,000 more copies.[107] In its third week the album returned to number one on the Billboard 200, selling 120,000 more copies.[108] In its fourth week the album dropped to number two on the Billboard 200, selling 199,000 more copies.[109] The album sold 1,727,000 copies in the United States in 2013, making it the second best-selling album of the year.[110] As of April 2015, the album has sold 2,244,000 copies in the United States according to Nielsen Soundscan

TMMLP 2 was released before Soundscan included streaming. I wonder how a new album would sell now.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:45 (one week ago) Permalink

i put ass like that at #1 on my 2005 pazz and jop

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:44 (one week ago) Permalink

i meant it in a in a respectful rap canon joe budden traditionalist way, where you nod along with his inclusion in a top 20 and say something like "yeah, em got bars," rather than in a visceral emotional response or true respect for his artistry.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:47 (one week ago) Permalink

ha yeah no worries that makes sense I was just goofin on you. like I said I don't question his technical virtuosity and yeah of course he would show up "Best Rapper Ever" lists.

(but I still don't like him)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:54 (one week ago) Permalink

fwiw I loved the Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers LPs

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:59 (one week ago) Permalink

in a time where frightening things are happening and a lot of the criticism is wrapped in humour and cynicism and everything feels hopeless, it was heartening to see not so much em doing what he did, saying what he did--i think it's powerful because it's cringey and sincere--but the reaction to the cypher, and not so much the fuck donald trump part but the expression of solidarity with people who are under attack. right?
can you just say you fuck with it on that level before going in on em is a washed up horrorcore rapper that's about to drop a single with pink?

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:03 (one week ago) Permalink

that was basically my first post on this topic

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:08 (one week ago) Permalink

let's talk about mysonne now.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:12 (one week ago) Permalink

respect knuckles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE7P09ftXKU

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:15 (one week ago) Permalink

knuckles?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:28 (one week ago) Permalink

I've posted this before, but again, it takes balls to say this to your fanbase:

and any fan of mine
who’s a supporter of his
im drawing in the sand a line
you either for or against
and if you cant decide
who you like more in your split
on who you should stand beside
ill do it for you with this
FUCK YOU

Yeah whatever... he is a has been and he's rich as fuck already, why would he give a fuck? Well, he has an album coming out in the following months and he's really popular in states where Trump won by a wide margin like Wyoming, North and South Dakota. Source: (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/upshot/music-fandom-maps.html)

Eminem, the 44-year-old rapper from Detroit, has remained popular, with several hits in recent years, including “The Monster,” featuring Rihanna, which reached No. 1 on the Billboard top 100 in 2013. His fan base is strongest in whiter and more rural places: West Virginia; southern Ohio; eastern Kentucky; deep north Maine; the Ozarks in Missouri; across the Great Plains. And, of course, Eminem is popular in his hometown, Detroit.

He's pretty much turning on the people that gave him half or more of his fortune. This is for me the real meat not the rap itself. Look, I've never really liked him and it doesn't surprise me a bit he's popular in white rural America... they probably take the homophobia and mysogyny and all the shock factor at face value, but that statement against his own fans in the end is pure mad passion.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:28 (one week ago) Permalink

it takes balls to do things that have actual stakes. this has none.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:34 (one week ago) Permalink

When you're totally familiar with rap music pic.twitter.com/UVFRHw21Yf

— Mark Agee (@MarkAgee) October 11, 2017

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:34 (one week ago) Permalink

more like mark diceman

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:40 (one week ago) Permalink

a thing that i'm finding funny is that a lot of the people who are praising eminem for "best political writing" for this cypher praised the eric garland game theory thing

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Tweets that didn’t age well. A four act play. pic.twitter.com/jrNklSsVgX

— Jordan Strack (@JordanStrack) October 11, 2017

Spottie, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I liked at the time (and still like) the first three Eminem albums - if only Encore was anywhere near as great and he'd stopped there. I'm not really interested in any of his post-comeback stuff.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:58 (one week ago) Permalink

it takes balls to do things that have actual stakes. this has none.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:34 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh wait to see if it has impact before jumping to conclusions? it may matter to some people.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink

i mean if there was ever a cultural phenomena that could be used as a trojan horse into the mind of republicans, it's Em.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:58 (one week ago) Permalink

whiteness distilled into its purest form is mike cernovich is rapping at eminem to defend the president pic.twitter.com/KmZgfZu6Wq

— TWO DAMNED MAUSOLEA (@2dAmMuslim) October 11, 2017

gbx, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:00 (one week ago) Permalink

a thing that i'm finding funny is that a lot of the people who are praising eminem for "best political writing" for this cypher praised the eric garland game theory thing

― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:23 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^yes, and

olbermann gonna find soundbombing 2 via burgeoning eminem fandom and get super into def jux and rawkus and rhymesayers. tale as old as time

— Patrick Cosmos (@veryimportant) October 11, 2017

gbx, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink

https://i.redd.it/5khdtrx7h8rz.jpg

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:59 (one week ago) Permalink

lol xp

shakey otm btw, good on em for doing this, specifically calling out his fans who support him. the music itself is whatever, fine for what it is i guess

k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:07 (one week ago) Permalink

lol...

....two years pass

@KeithOlberman President Trump REFUSES to make May 15th, the day Cannibal Ox's The Cold Vein was released, a national holiday HAVE YOU NO DECENCY SIR?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:14 (one week ago) Permalink

he sounds like a middling slam poet and the portentous staging makes it sound even worse

agree w/ this

but it does sound better than most of his releases for the past 1.5 decades have been

dyl, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:28 (one week ago) Permalink

he is soon releasing a duet with p!nk who just voiced her tentative support for trump earlier this week

dyl, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:44 (one week ago) Permalink

lol

I did think the presentation of it (no beat, out front by himself) was weird and maybe not the best cuz as you say it was portentous, it gave it this unearned gravitas. Like, if he had just dropped all that in the context of how those ciphers usually are presented (for ex. w/Primo on the turntables and a bunch of other rappers all taking turns) it would have actually been way more dramatic, a real "oh shit!" moment

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:00 (one week ago) Permalink

heh wait to see if it has impact before jumping to conclusions? it may matter to some people

not the point. my point is, he risks nothing by doing this. it's not bold, it's trendhopping.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:06 (one week ago) Permalink

What would constitute a risk for a hugely successful pop star at risk? This is about as "risky" as anyone in his position can be, because at least he *takes* a position. I guess it could have been riskier if it was pro-Trump, and he was ant NFL protest and pro VA alt-right rally?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:47 (one week ago) Permalink

He’s releasing a new album in November iirc and he said “fuck you” to half of his fanbase. How is that not a risk, yeah he’s got enough money to care but it’s almost a given it will affect sales negatively.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:56 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah simon that strikes me as blindingly cynical

k3vin k., Thursday, 12 October 2017 00:01 (six days ago) Permalink

I can live with that.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 October 2017 00:05 (six days ago) Permalink

I would add that I'll be surprised if he takes a sales hit well beyond industry trends

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 October 2017 00:57 (six days ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NBwt24PTe0

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 12 October 2017 02:08 (six days ago) Permalink

that's so weird

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 12 October 2017 02:50 (six days ago) Permalink

i expect there will be some people who would ordinarily never bother checking out an eminem album in 2017, myself included, who will at least give the album a cursory listen/stream just to see if he delves further in the direction hinted by this promo appearance. not to say that that would necessarily push the needle significantly, but merely to point out that commercial risk was far from not the only possibility to consider when weighing the decision to do this. given the proximity to his forthcoming album release (it's likely coming out in about a month) i would guess that his label felt the ~buzz~ would be beneficial.

i don't expect a large sales decline whatsoever.

dyl, Thursday, 12 October 2017 02:51 (six days ago) Permalink

*far from the only possibility

dyl, Thursday, 12 October 2017 02:52 (six days ago) Permalink

White rural America still buy physical albums.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 12 October 2017 07:41 (six days ago) Permalink

^ the magical incantation RIAA chants every night at the witching hour

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 12 October 2017 17:32 (six days ago) Permalink

Lol

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 12 October 2017 17:56 (six days ago) Permalink

his cutesy sing-rap collabo w/ fellow white sing-rapper (and incidental trump supporter) p!nk is out today via the latter's album release. it's misogynistic but ~cute~ about it this time so white liberals will look the other way as usual

dyl, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:49 (five days ago) Permalink

this already feels like twice the punchline it was on arrival

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 13 October 2017 14:54 (five days ago) Permalink

his cutesy sing-rap collabo w/ fellow white sing-rapper (and incidental trump supporter)

she's.... not http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/pink-on-lashing-out-at-trump-dr-luke-and-her-new-album.html

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:00 (five days ago) Permalink

lol

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:05 (five days ago) Permalink

I was thinking "P!nk, Trump Supporter" sounded very Bizarro-world but then again Donald Trump is actually our President so right now any stupid thing is possible

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:07 (five days ago) Permalink

i'm kinda kidding about the trump supporter part. just like she's probably kidding about "So I’m going for a rap Grammy, and I’d like to take you along with me."

(i would die laughing if they actually got nominated for said grammy)

dyl, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:07 (five days ago) Permalink

What is "kinda kidding"?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:22 (five days ago) Permalink

idk i thought i saw some magazine scan where she says something like "we elected him and that's gotta mean something" but i can't find it now so i was probably just trolled

dyl, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:33 (five days ago) Permalink

I assume Eminem is a Trump supporter because I keep seeing all these headlines that contains the words "Trump" and "Eminem"

President Keyes, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:48 (five days ago) Permalink

same

dyl, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:54 (five days ago) Permalink

after 27 years of doubts about rap I am now a fan. https://t.co/vJXhqzUkp8

— Desus Nice (@desusnice) October 13, 2017

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 14 October 2017 02:10 (four days ago) Permalink


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