third eye blind -- classic or dud

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i'm listening to the library's copy of _blue_ and leaning towards the former. what lou reed should have been?

sundar subramanian, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

actually, forget the lou reed comparison. maybe superchunk or something. still a good album though.

sundar subramanian, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure Third Eye Blind has had the longevity or social or stylistic impact to warrant a classic/dud yet...

JM, Tuesday, 16 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

great or crap then.

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 16 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Going by singles alone, this is pure dud. Trademark stilted vocal delivery is weak beyond all belief, arrangements lack drive, hooks while sometimes catchy are always incessantly grinding rather than pleasurab

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 16 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I've slowly warmed to 3EB over the years. My comparison is more like Oasis should've become, if they had bothered to keep doing pop instead of going wank-rock. And American, so maybe it doesn't work. I turned my mind on them when I heard Jumper, which I thought was a very good song in the lame-teen-angst genre. Stephen Jenkins may be a jerkoff but he's really not bad at pulling together that sort of thing, I've even bought one of their albums, used.

Ally, Tuesday, 16 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Case in point: Never Let You Go

Riff is 1/2 of sweet jane, and chorus is talking heads ("the world was moving and she was right there with it...") and guitar squiggle is stolen from fountains of wayne. And between the chorus is no verse, but the song title, repeated over and over. This is 3EB as "pop" -- the other 3EB is alt-sludge, with white boy rapper vocals which are fey rather than agressive, thus differentiating from bizkit.

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 16 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i've never heard fountains of wayne or the specific heads song to which you're referring but i can assure you i'd take "never let you go" over anything off _loaded_ (was lou reed really the first guy to play d-a-g?) or any talking heads song i know. it's more energetic, upbeat, and unequivocal. and of course it does have verses and fine ones at that ("i remember the stupid things, the mood rings" is a great rhyme as far as i'm concerned).

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 23 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...
Third Eye Blind is neither classic or dud. Third Eye Blind is a decent band that I enjoy for purely visceral level. The lyrics are drivel. The music is catchy, fun and occasionally intelligent. The production on the last album was great. Somebody said "Never Let You Go" was a rip-off of Fountains of Wayne and Talking Heads. I don't know those bands well enough to judge, but "1000 July" is undeniably a rip-off of AC/DC's style. Take a listen to Radiohead's "Bones" and "Camoflage." That's plagiarism, plain and simple.

Jack Redelfs, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
Hey, there's that thing I wrote many months ago. It ended up sounding negative, not positive. Anyway. What I should have said is, yes, they're shallow, and the singles aren't too great, but if you listen to the album "Blue" it has a great feeling of unrestrained self-indulgence that you can't help but be swept up in. Vocoders, power chords, mellotrons, random Robert Plant impersonations, endless songs, high-budget guitar jangle, backing choirs and all...it just sweeps you up. Give it a try.

Jack Redelfs, Tuesday, 25 September 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
CLASSIC! I decided! They have a new album out, wtf? I have seen nothing of this until I was standing in the shop today and happened upon it in the listening section.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

you SO should buy the Good Charlotte album now. They rip off 3EB constantly but totally improve the formula.

"Losing A Whole Year" is really great.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they steal the climax of "Semi-Charmed Life" on the awesome power ballad "Say Anything." Instead of saying goodbye goodbyee gooodbyeeee GOODBYE the GC boys are falling down down DOOOOOOOWWWWN!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure Third Eye Blind has had the longevity or social or stylistic impact to warrant a classic/dud yet...
-- JM (jimmythemo...), January 16th, 2001.

people said crap like that back in the day? TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dude, comparing GOod Charlotte to 3EB is ludicrious, I've heard at least half of the GC album and unless the other half is the one that sounds like 3EB, then they don't do anything like 3EB.

Losing a Whole Year and Deep Inside Of You are their best songs.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

people said crap like that back in the day? TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

Sure have! Now they're even more dud than ever. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Say Anything" definitely does. "Hold On" too.

How is the new 3EB album? I haven't heard anything off it. Didn't Fred Durst play guitar on a track or two?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ned you're the second most passive aggressive poster on this board, it's bizarre.

Anthony do you know everything about Fred Durst? I haven't listened to the new album yet but it sounded good frm the store snippets.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I am Fred Durst. Anthony Miccio is my screen name.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ned you're the second most passive aggressive poster on this board, it's bizarre.

Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

who's the most passive agressive ILXor?

3eb still sux, tho'.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't actively listen to that album or anything but it's really all right, pleasant if you don't ask too much. (I'm pretty sure I just started this thread because I thought they get more crap than they deserve.) "Deep Inside of You" is nice, I agree. It came on at one of the Toronto FAPs and I enjoyed it. It is a fairly diverse album, one reason why I rate it a lot higher than the first Weezer, say.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

goddamn, is everyone determined to make me count to ten?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

do you like Creed, too, anthony?

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

THE FIRST WEEZER IS THE BEST ALBUM EVER, SUNDAR, WTF???

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

For some reason you just convinced me to give it another chance by using caps lock and multiple question marks.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't mind people not liking Weezer. If Alex in NYC declared "Weezer is but a stray piece of fecal matter clinging to a hair on Jaz Coleman's ass" I'd be cool with it. I just hate when someone goes on about how some band is sorta alright fine don't care and then says "better than Weezer, though."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Tad, I'm no Creed fan, though I like "With Arms Wide Open" and parts of "My Sacrifice."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I knew that'd do the trick, Sundar. We are of similar mind.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh shit, I just saw Ned's post on the Nada Surf thread now. Sorry. (Still, proof that Ally must have had me in mind as most passive-aggressive poster.)

I'm almost done Weezer (mostly as I remembered - I still love "Holiday", like "In the Garage", don't mind a couple others, but don't get most of it). I'll get back when I've listened to Blue again.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hmm, the ending of "Only in Dreams" is pretty nice actually. . .

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The new single contains these lyrics.

"And I see you fogging up the mirror
Vapor round your body glistens in the shower
And I want to stay right here and go down on you for an hour"

Thats ok with me.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 23 June 2003 21:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it'd be classic if the next line was sung in a muffled voice.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 21:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Haha Sundar, you are so far from the most passive-aggressive ILXor! You need to try way harder and stop being polite and Canadian.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 23 June 2003 23:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

who is it then?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 23:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
REVIVE-O!

In perusing through antiquated ILM threads (hey, gimme a break, it's 6:20 am and I've been up for a bajillion hours), 3EB is a band I seem to fluctuate between liking, tolerating, actually quite enjoying and abjectly loathing. Sure, Jenkins is a shameless Ass Shogun and that whole business about portraying the Kinks? Oh do verily kid me not. But as I sit here in my office, blasting "Losing A Whole Year" out of my computer l can't help but think they definetely had something. There are several damn respectable tracks on that first record. The second record? Ehhh....not so much, and let's not even mention the third record (actually, can anyone even remember the title?) I compared them to Maroon 5 not too long ago, but I'm pretty sure Maroon 5 have yet to write a botched relationship song as on-the-money as "How's it Gonna Be?" or the afore-mentioned "Losing a Whole Year".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 September 2004 09:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

well they're less nauseating than matchbox 20! at least they have that going for them.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i remember i chose "how's it gonna be" to be the first song on the the first ilm "listening chamber", and all i got was HATERZ. i didn't put it there out of any particular love for the song (i think it's okay btw, rather pretty even), i just wanted to see how ilx'd react to some pretty standard alt. rock, because at the time it seemed like something of a whipping genre. we didn't have a miccio then.

i *do* miss radio rock bands having shiny hooks instead of whiny sludge. all we've got in that dept today is, well, maroon 5 (who i don't have the energy to feel one way or another about) and the occasional linkin park single. the good charlottes and all of them don't seem to be trying as hard in the post-blink 182 era. actually, i've changed my mind. i don't really care at all.

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 25 September 2004 12:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

well they're less nauseating than matchbox 20! at least they have that going for them.
-- latebloomer, September 25th, 2004

{resets bar, low. replaces blood-encrusted handkerchief over wheelchair-bound man's face. brief tableaux. exeunt.}

DUD! There was actually a lively debate about how terrible 3EB were on the pavement list once. Whatever happened to the 3EB/Eddie Vedder rivalry that was playing out on VH1? FWIW, what happened to Pearl Jam?

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 25 September 2004 12:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm not really a fan, but "Semi-Charmed Life" was a deservedly monstrous hit, and has a place in my heart for being of the misleadingly-catchy-melodies- masking-desperately-misanthropic-lyrics school of songwriting. Any band that can get lyrics like "She comes 'round and she goes down on me" and "Those little red panties, they pass the test" on the radio is OK by me.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I dunno, those lyrics seem pretty tame to me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Dudududududud. It contains just about everything you really can't like about music. And worst of all, it's so damn catchy that you can't really tell if you're singing along ironically or liking it for real.

strom (strom), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm talking about Semi-Charmed Life of course. Jesus... there are two Third Eye Blind threads on the internet at the same time?

strom (strom), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I dunno, those lyrics seem pretty tame to me.

They are, but they're kinda subsersive in the context of the song (which is essentially an ode to being strung out on crystal meth).

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

SEX AND DRUGS ON THE RADIO OMG WTF

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

(Sorry.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Play nice, Ned. (Also, when are you coming to Toronto?)

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If I can swing it, Veteran's Day weekend. But that's not a guarantee by any means.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They are, but they're kinda subsersive in the context of the song (which is essentially an ode to being strung out on crystal meth).

-- Tantrum The Cat, September 25th, 2004.

especially when the song fashions itself as either a judgement or a self-aggrandizing "it-could-have-been-me" ode, which makes it UberDud. it's like an Ur text for duds. of course, it's also the gist of the American remake of Traffic.

no low spark for me.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I just wrote and erased a long bile-filled post about "How's It Gonna Be?" and how anybody who defends that track deserves to be blah-blah-blah.

Clearly it's opposite day.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I do not like this band at all, but I just read about the Republican thing and <3 <3 <3

emil.y, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 23:02 (eleven months ago) Permalink

jump on board!

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 23:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I have to agree with emil.y, I've never liked their music but I'm delighted they did what they did.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 23:16 (eleven months ago) Permalink

finally get what charlize saw in him

dc, Thursday, 21 July 2016 13:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The band is playing at an air show tonight in Oshkosh Wisconsin.

My friend joked they're only going to play songs about boats.

Evan R, Monday, 25 July 2016 16:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

what lou reed should have been?

tylerw, Monday, 25 July 2016 16:59 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I evidently referred to Steven Jenkins, fifteen years ago here, as a "shameless Ass Shogun."

Alex in NYC, Monday, 25 July 2016 19:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

new song/ep forthcoming http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/25/third-eye-cop-vs-phone-girl

new song is v embarrassing engagement with current sociopolitical realities i.e. "if there was a time" but also it's pretty good still

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 25 July 2016 19:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

new ep is out october 7!!!!

the new song is amazing

https://soundcloud.com/thirdeyeblind/company-of-strangers

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

nice

Spottie, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah dig that

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

Ever give Dopamine a listen?

Spottie, Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

argh no but i will try to

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

https://open.spotify.com/album/5m8uXHRPJB7XMX1FUsRsbj

it's good! especially "weightless"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

Didn't love this one like last years full length but def a couple jams

Spottie, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 03:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

yeah it's uneven. "isn't it pretty" i think is trying to recapture "i want you" and it doesn't really work

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 13:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

i am enjoying myself so much

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Stephan Jenkins: I wrote "Semi-Charmed" before I met Arion or any of the people in that make-up [of the band]. The drum loops on the final record are the ones that I originally recorded. I remember sitting in a room with this other songwriter who worked down the street -- she was a waitress -- and she came up and sat on the bed and we played each other some songs and I realized years later that the songs we played each other had sold 17 million records... it was [4 Non Blondes singer and mega-producer/songwriter] Linda Perry. She sang me a song called "What's Going On" and I sang her this song called "Semi-Charmed Life."

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:31 (two months ago) Permalink

excited to read for surrrre

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:32 (two months ago) Permalink

!!

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:58 (two months ago) Permalink

t/f: everyone in the ilx 1975 cru should love this album

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:59 (two months ago) Permalink

duh

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:59 (two months ago) Permalink

the 1975

looks like you and I even talked about it a bit in there

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Thursday, 6 April 2017 21:01 (two months ago) Permalink

iirc jordan s has not heard this album in its entirety

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 April 2017 21:03 (two months ago) Permalink

he would def love it.

just bought tix for 3EB/Silversun Pickups in July here in phx.

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Thursday, 6 April 2017 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah! i'm going to the jones beach show in june for my birthday

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 April 2017 21:19 (two months ago) Permalink

t/f: everyone in the ilx 1975 cru should love this album

― k3vin k., Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:59 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and blue imo

history of this thread is prob full of me overstating the greatness of blue

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 April 2017 21:21 (two months ago) Permalink

I would understand

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 6 April 2017 23:18 (two months ago) Permalink

oh look who revived this thread

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 April 2017 00:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Love that they keep talking about shoegazer guitars - I guess they do have that sound on some tracks, don't they? I should check out this group beyond the first album

Vinnie, Friday, 7 April 2017 01:21 (two months ago) Permalink

if anyone wants to hear a new third eye blind record as recorded by an ancient emo band, i highly recommend the new album by the maine

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:25 (two months ago) Permalink

this is the dumbest oral history of something ever. "we made demos, played the viper room, got signed." wow big whoop.

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:41 (two months ago) Permalink

excuse me kurt, linda perry and stephan jenkins sold 17 million records combined

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:47 (two months ago) Permalink

thats true. ste jenk played my work a few months ago and he was so out of it he could barely speak. linda p talks like a baby. i can just imagine those two hanging out in a shitty apartment in north beach mumbling to each other for hours.

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Taco Bell sold over 17 millions doritos locos, do you want to read an oral history of that?

sarahell, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes TBH

Tim F, Saturday, 8 April 2017 08:21 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxUTu1R5iKY

this is fantastic

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:58 (one month ago) Permalink

niiice

k3vin k., Friday, 12 May 2017 19:11 (one month ago) Permalink

wow apparently from the s/t days! not a surprise at all given how it sounds

k3vin k., Friday, 12 May 2017 19:15 (one month ago) Permalink

A+

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2017 19:24 (one month ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

all of the bonus tracks are either great or interesting (i had no idea "an ode to maybe" was demoed for the s/t as "kiss goodnight) but their cover of "heroin" is hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlLHDxufStc

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 9 June 2017 17:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

pox 3eb

red star
sharp knife
the background
faster
camoflage
losing a whole year
narcolepsy
something in you
wounded
water landing

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 12:55 (one week ago) Permalink

no motorcycle driveby is a crime

Meliorus, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:15 (one week ago) Permalink

lol

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:23 (one week ago) Permalink

that is a fascinating POX

k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 June 2017 03:31 (one week ago) Permalink

BLUE is kind of the WOWEE ZOWEE to 3EB's CROOKED RAIN. except blue is kind of bad, lol

k3vin k., Friday, 16 June 2017 23:06 (one week ago) Permalink

*deep breaths* BLUE ISNT BAD AT ALL

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 16 June 2017 23:11 (one week ago) Permalink

the show last night was the best i've ever seen them

"wounded" live is crushing

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 June 2017 14:06 (eight hours ago) Permalink


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