Why does anyone like the Fall?

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This question might've been posed before, but there are too many threads to sort through so Im just aking it. They just sound like rubbish. Granted all I have is This Nation's Saving Grace and the Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall, but I just don't see it. I've heard nothing but wonderful things about them, but when I sit down to listen to them, all I hear is an unrehearsed band with a tone deaf lead singer, and absolutley no hooks. I'm not a bubblegum pop-purist by any means, but their appeal eludes me. Is there just something wrong with me?

Felcher (Felcher), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

The entirety of the SLATES EP and HEX ENDUCTION HOUR (esp. THE CLASSICAL) is my reasoning.

But then, I tend to like things that sound like rubbish to most people.

doug (doug), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

yes. you're a mess. so sort yourself out now!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Funny, those are the only two albums I have and I'm just waiting to earn some more money so I can expand my catalog. Oh and I was gonna go see them this Thursday but then I realized I couldn't afford it. Waiting on money.

No hooks? What about "Barmy" or "2x4?"

Famous Athlete, Monday, 16 June 2003 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

and "The Classical" and "Industrial Estates"...

Will (will), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

or cruiser's fuckin' creek for fuck's sake.

scott seward, Monday, 16 June 2003 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Felcher, it's about repitition. They like repitition in their music, and they're never going to lose it. President Carter likes repitition, do you?

Seriously though, perhaps name one or two bands that you do like?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, plz do that.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I found my first Fall album, The Unutterable, to be quite simply priceless. Mark E Smifh has an irreplicable delivery. Of course he also puts out quite a bit of rubbish, but then who doesn't? If possible always listen before buying. Some of the riffs on I Am As Pure As Oranj are also fine indeed.

Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

There are plenty of catchy Fall songs.

The appeal of the Fall, broken down:

1) Heavy emphasis on rhythm and spoken word - sort of like a purely British of rap.

2) One of the best punk vocalists of all time.

3) Excellent lyrics, often brilliant packaging.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

victoria.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

matthew perpetua has got it right on, especially with pt 3

there is no other band i can think of who have recorded several HUNDRED tracks i like, as opposed to a handful, a dozen or even a few albums worth. and still the lyrics can be endlessly original.

kieron, Monday, 16 June 2003 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Yo, Felcher - my 1st 2 Fall purchases were _This Nation's Saving Grace_ AND the 2-CD '84-'89 b-sides collection, both of which didn't do much of a damn thing for me. (I 1st heard about the Fall via Girls Against Boys name-dropping them 76 times (+/- 35) in various interviews.) The stuff that turned my head came from "back in the day" ('77-'83). If you don't have access to Soulseek or some other file-swapping utility, the most economical solution for you would be to seek out _Hip Priests & Kamerads_, which collects a slew of stuff from the Fall's early days. Listening to _TNSG_ in light of knowing where The Fall came from, the album sounds positively (WARNING HYPERBOLE WARNING) godlike. If you're feeling lucky & generous, then you might want to get EITHER _Totally Wired - The Rough Trade Anthology_ (2 CDs) or _Psykick Dance Hall_ (3 CDs). All 3 of the anthologies have some overlap (a hallmark of the Fall discography), so pick your poison accordingly - were I you, I'd proceed in the order I listed the albums.

Be warned - if you're looking for stodgy professionalism & precision in the Fall's method of madness, then backtracking to their earlier releases is not what you want to do. If fact, if you come around to liking / loving / wanting to spoon w/ the Fall, it's this very lack of precision & professionalism that you'll probably fall for 1st.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I've got everything from Live At The Witch Trials through The Unutterable (though I'm probably gonna be getting rid of some stuff soon). I just think they're lots of fun.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, you have Stephen Song, Craigness, Disney's Dream Debased, Spoilt Victorian Child and Paintwork and you hear no hooks? I think you'd better just give up.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I just like that he says "-ah" at the end of every line.

And the drummer goes whomp-a-whomp-a-whommmp-a.

I guess I'm easy to please.

(Subthread: Great songs about The Fall: "Mark E. Smith & Brix," Barbara Manning)

JesseFox (JesseFox), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Download "Rebellious Jukebox" from the Fall's first album. HUGE hook on that one...

Ben Boyer, Monday, 16 June 2003 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

this is quickly becoming the tone of the thread, but i can't resist asking: if C.R.E.E.P. isn't catchy as all hell then what is~?1?!?

brains (cerybut), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I do really enjoy the Fall, and apparently in the same way as the people who've responded here: the flashes of wit, the repetition, the charming shamble of the band banging and jerking along all primitive while Smith sneers in the space over the top. You do sort of need to enjoy the broken-downness of it all, and maybe the laziness as well. And I'd say the real meat is in the way their hooks and bits of smoothness just clang out from inside all the steady beating so clearly and surprisingly: you get bonk bonk bonk bonk [big clear wide-open guitar riff hook!] bonk bonk bonk bonk.

What I'm more curious about is how the Fall have such serious devotees. Their formula seems to me to result in pretty wide stretches of less-than-necessary stuff, and it's static enough to leave me pretty confident that, say, a two-disc comp of highlights is more than any person could ever need of them. The dedication of their fans, on the other hand, makes me wonder: are there really little gems scattered all through the discography, enough little shifts of personality to make slogging through the whole thing worth it? The fact that people remember the names of their individual songs so readily would lead me to believe they must settle into very different places, but god, my limited Fall listening has not given me much indication that that's the case.

(Good way of testing this, I guess: start an "essential Fall" thread and see how lively and specific and Smiths-like the debate over what tracks count can get.)

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread makes me sad.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Why I like The Fall.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

are there really little gems scattered all through the discography, enough little shifts of personality to make slogging through the whole thing worth it?

In a word, yes. Sometimes it is often necessary to immerse oneself in a prolific artist's work to fully understand it all. Mark E Smith has changed a lot over the past 30 years, and it shows in his work. The Fall certainly can reward those with a casual interest, but if you really want to appreciate the nuances and details, you can't just be a dilletant with a best-of cd.

(Jess's list is pretty cool, by the way)

If you start an "essential Fall" thread, you will find that a lot of people like a lot of different Fall songs, and it probably won't make getting through the huge discography any easier on you.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think the fall have really done a thing worth a good goddamn for the last 18 years, nitsuh, and i'm not really interested in picking over their scraps from those years to pick out a handful of classic songs. but they did enough in those first 8-9 years to justify their acclaim to me...that's like 10 albums/records right there, at least 6 or 7 of which are solid start to finish. which is a damn sight more than most bands ever release.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

that's it jess! pistols at dawn!

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll second James. I refuse to let alleged fall-oid give up until after Code: Selfish. And even then I think they should get Light User Syndrome.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, i have cassette copies of "extricate" (?...i might be getting this wrong) and "light user" (bought in an ohio goodwill!) and i cant remember the last time i felt the need to play them

and i swear this has nothing to do with them being cassettes

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I cant remember the last time I felt the need to eat a slaw dog! doesn't mean I can live without em!

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

B-b-b-but Spinetrak! SPINETRAK! SPINETRAK!

Extricate is pretty weak, I'll admit.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

what about those hotdogs with the cheese inside em?

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

those are disgusting

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Jess, have you heard the Unutterable album? There's some great songs on that one, and there's a couple good ones on that last one with the words Missing Winner in the title.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

big ups to everyone big upping The Unutterable on this thread

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

can someone compile all the best bits from the last 18 years?

gaz (gaz), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

If Mark E. is a singer, then anyone could be vocalist, rock-star, anybody, if he/she really wants. Mark gives us hope.

Margus Kiis, estonian rock critic (Margus Kiis, estonian rock cri), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link

b-b-but, i don't want to be a singing rock-star

gaz (gaz), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

totally coincidentally I'd made a "20th Century Fall" (Witch Trials through Unutterable) track listing for my website today. When I put it up there I'll put it up here too. I should be getting a CD burner soon so I can make copies if anyone wants one (it'd be a double CD).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I really do think there are, as nabisco puts it, gems scattered throughout their discography, though the Slates/"Elastic Man"/"Totally Wired" period has the greatest concentration of them. But "Inch" from _Levitate_ is one of their three or four greatest moments ever as far as I'm concerned, and yesterday when I had my iPod on random "The Real Life of the Crying Marshall" from _The Unutterable_ reached over and whacked me upside the head (in a good way).

First Fall I ever heard was _The Wonderful and Frightening World..._, which did nothing for me at the time. _Palace of Swords Reversed_ was my conversion experience.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Best-of comp I made for a friend about 4 years ago:

1. Prole Art Threat (1981)
2. How I Wrote “Elastic Man” (1979)
3. Totally Wired (1981)
4. Inch (1999)
5. Fortress/Deer Park (1982)
6. New Face In Hell (1980)
7. Free Ranger (1992)
8. Black Monk Theme, pt. 1 (1990)
9. Masquerade (1998)
10. U.S. ’80s-’90s (1986)
11. Kimble (1993)
12. Slang-King (1984)
13. Repetition (1977)
14. Hit The North (1988)
15. Leave The Capitol (1981)
16. Edinburgh Man (1991)
17. Put Away (1978)

I believe almost every band I've ever been in has covered a Fall song at some point, and sometimes it wasn't even my idea... I have vivid memories of playing "U.S. '80s-'90s," "Frightened" and "Fantastic Life."

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

My first Fall record was the A-Sides collection, which is probably about as consistently "pop" as a Fall record is going to get. I highly recommend it as a starting place, even if it means you won't hear songs like "I Am Damo Suzuki" "Repetition" "How I Wrote Elastic Man" "Hip Priest" "New Face In Hell" "The Classical" "I'm Into CB!" or any of the songs from Slates right away.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I burned myself out on the Fall during my big Fall obsession period, by indulging in too many live CDs. The Fall were the first band by whom I ever enjoyed hearing lots of live versions of the same songs - even, in some cases, preferred them to the album versions. I made it to "Extricate" and went "blah" around the same time I couldn't muster up the enthusiasm to hear another echoey version of "Totally Wired," or, indeed, any Fall at all (for awhile). But I've been waiting to catch my second wind, and sample '90s-and-beyond Fall. (As mentioned on another thread, I'm hoping seeing them for the first time this week may kick my ass in that direction.)

Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

as far as albums go you really only need Bend Sinister, The Frenz Experiment, I Am Curious Oranj, Live At The Witch Trials, Dragnet, Hex Enduction Hour, Peverted By Language, The Wonderful and Frightening World Of The..., and 458489 B-Sides. It's simple, really.

scott seward, Monday, 16 June 2003 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

and the other ones that i forgot.

scott seward, Monday, 16 June 2003 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I made the mistake of starting with the first album, which I thought was an odd and somewhat neat, but it didn't compel me to explore any further. It wasn't until several years, and an encounter with "Hex Enduction Hour," later... (I still think "Witch Trials" is not much fun to listen to; something about the way it's recorded...)

Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I made a Fall compilation for a friend, and though I can't remember the order of the songs, it went something like this:

The Classical
New Face In Hell
I'm Into CB!
Repetition
I Am Damo Suzuki
New Face In Hell
Hip Priest
Couldn't Get Ahead
Dr. Buck's Letter
Living Too Late
Hit The North
Cruiser's Creek (live from Seminal Live lp)
Dktr Faustus
CREEP
Clear Off!
Oh! Brother
Impression of J. Temperance
Prole Art Threat

Hopefully this, in addition to what Douglas and others are posting, will give you a nice long list of songs to download from your favorite p2p.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

the totally wired comp is actually quite a good introduction, even though it only covers the rough trade years

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Victoria

That's a Kinks song, Mike!

Anyway, I think the hype is a bit overblown, and they sound like absolute shit on pot, but they have their moments. Eh.

Farmer Al (King Kobra), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

here's that "20th Century Fall" deal. It's pretty pop (though I didn't put "Victoria" on it, though for the double CD version - this is for a c90, I'd definitely make the cut.


1) “steppin out”
2) “rebellious jukebox”
3) “dice man”
4) “rowche rumble-live”
5) “pay your rates”
6) “fit and working again”
7) “totally wired”
8) “the classical”
9) “room to live”
10) “lie dream of the casino soul”
11) “i feel voxish”
12) “c.r.e.e.p.”
13) “rollin’ dany”

14) “couldn’t get ahead”
15) “living too late”
16) “frenz”
17) “wrong place, right time”
18) “dead beat descendant”
19) “black monk theme part I”
20) “free range”
21) “strychnine”
22) “hey student!”
23) “life just bounces”
24) “spinetrak”
25) “touch sensitive”
26) “hands up billy”

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

what they said = why i like the fall. though i have only heard everything they did up to perverted by language.

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Starting with Palace of Swords Reversed was a very good thing for me, I realize. Most recent Fall acquistions: the rerelease of Fall in a Hole and Listening In. Must get the solo spoken word thingy oh yes. Excuse me, my headache is still doing me in.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Because they sound like absolute shit on pot.

Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Are those guys from the Fall forum? There was a sense of... disdain from one of them.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 29 January 2021 18:02 (one year ago) link

Here's the whole St Helens show

https://theperlichpost.blogspot.com/2020/07/listen-to-fall-live-at-st-helens.html

Gotta say, sounds like they didn't take enough speed, they're a little slow. Quality is great but I think I prefer Fall in a Hole and Part of American Therein. Still cool I guess but not worth 30 bucks for me

a (waterface), Friday, 29 January 2021 18:48 (one year ago) link

watching that documentary now. Grant Showbiz did just make a factual error though, he said the Fall played on the main stage at Reading festival after sacking their drummer after a fight with MES. They weren't on the main stage, they were in the tent. (I was there but I didn't trust my recollection so I checked)

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Friday, 29 January 2021 19:33 (one year ago) link

he did say that though didn't he?...he says second stage.

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 30 January 2021 00:54 (one year ago) link

the setlist from what appears to be this show in that documentary is great

Two Librans / Cyber Insekt / And Therein / Bourgeois Town / Ben's > F-'Oldin' Money > Kick the Can / Mr. Pharmacist / Way Round / I Am Damo Suzuki / Enigrammatic Dream / The Joke / Ketamine Sun / Antidotes / Dr. Buck's Letter / I Wake up in the City (instr.)

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 30 January 2021 01:01 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Hanley brothers podcast coming soon!!!

cwkiii, Saturday, 3 April 2021 19:53 (one year ago) link

Very cool... Paul's book on Hex was excellent.

visiting, Saturday, 3 April 2021 20:11 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Really heartbreaking this, Mark E Smith's old house is for sale. Still many possessions there. Oh, Mark. So missed. What can be done? https://t.co/O95SKRMYgG @theJeremyVine @fallnews @VariousTimes @theQuietus pic.twitter.com/6JJQT9R8Jg

— Dave Haslam (@Mr_Dave_Haslam) July 1, 2021

the kim variant (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:06 (one year ago) link

I know Haslam is a thoughtful soul but I'm not sure what he is getting at, apart from a few piles of books I don't see much more than general detritus. What can be done? A museum?

Maresn3st, Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:16 (one year ago) link

A good clean is what can be done.

the kim variant (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:22 (one year ago) link

would go to a tbe Fall museum but think it should be done London dungeon style

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:25 (one year ago) link

Turn it into a pub. Or an amphetamine den

imago, Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:25 (one year ago) link

Grind up the plaster and sell it in baggies to members of zoomer angular post punk groups.

Noel Emits, Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:36 (one year ago) link

I love The Fall, but it’s hardly Francis Bacon’s studio. Not much for acolytes to see where he got that spark.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:49 (one year ago) link

Just imagining my Fall museum, it should be an overwhelming audio/visual environment, there should be a mix of experimental theatre actors and severely mentally ill homeless people mingling with the guests, it should be really dark and difficult to navigate, basically if you ever went to Shunt under London Bridge you'll know what I mean.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 July 2021 10:05 (one year ago) link

It could become.....

THE GREATEST LIBRARY YET!!!

(Slow, you lot!)

Mark G, Thursday, 1 July 2021 10:44 (one year ago) link

The interior is a prison unconscious.

Alba, Thursday, 1 July 2021 10:49 (one year ago) link

Is that the "my new house" he sang about?

KEEP HONKING -- I'M BOBOING (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 1 July 2021 14:56 (one year ago) link

he messed up the paintwork

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 July 2021 15:04 (one year ago) link

He told us we should see it!

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 1 July 2021 15:06 (one year ago) link

safehouse safehouse time

massaman gai (front tea for two), Thursday, 1 July 2021 16:18 (one year ago) link

No bulbs in this house

the thin blue lying (suzy), Thursday, 1 July 2021 16:22 (one year ago) link

Put your claim into Tempo House
Go round there and have a grouse

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 1 July 2021 16:27 (one year ago) link

Is that the "my new house" he sang about?

I believe so, yes

sleeve, Thursday, 1 July 2021 18:19 (one year ago) link

I wanted to buy it and made an offer, an offer, it was not an unreasonable offer

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 1 July 2021 19:18 (one year ago) link

The "No Bulbs" place was his previous house.

Mark G, Thursday, 1 July 2021 20:18 (one year ago) link

Anyway, it's £200K

Mark G, Thursday, 1 July 2021 20:20 (one year ago) link

you could buy 0.002 Jack Grealishes for that money

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 July 2021 20:32 (one year ago) link

Try not to mention Aston Villa in a Fall thread.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 July 2021 20:33 (one year ago) link

ok, will make a note for next time

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 July 2021 20:43 (one year ago) link

One time The Fall turned up and, for their rider, took ten cases of beer, six bottles of wine and all the champagne. They cleaned us out. They put it all in their chalet to have a party. I get this call that they’re side of stage, and Mark E Smith is kicking off because there’s no rider. I explained they’d already had it, but they were refusing to play without one. So we took the skeleton key and broke into The Fall’s chalet and took their own booze and brought it to them. After the show, I hear this message on the radio: “It’s the Fall, they’ve been robbed!” Mark used to give me an invoice with a fake VAT number on it, and when I called him on it he pulled out a whisky bottle and tried to hit me over the head with it. Twice he tried to bottle me.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 1 July 2021 20:46 (one year ago) link

Probably equally upset he didn't think of the fake VAT invoice first

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 1 July 2021 20:51 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

Woebot meditates:

http://www.woebot.com/2022/03/hip-priest.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 March 2022 14:57 (eight months ago) link

“The only hangovers I’ve ever had were off ecstasy. It’s not nice… You’re drying up your brain with that stuff.”

Would love to have seen MES on E. Though I have a feeling the immovable object might have resisted the unstoppable force.

Alba, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:12 (eight months ago) link

five months pass...

They've got until Tuesday to raise £4000... so far they've managed £210! Seems like not many people like the Fall after all.

https://www.burynewroad.org/bury/save-the-fall-archive/

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 September 2022 23:03 (two months ago) link

In case you feel like breaking the hearts of the citizens of Bury:

https://bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/search/?sto=0&au=79&w=False&pn=1&mc=6&sc=96&ssc=130

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 September 2022 23:06 (two months ago) link

xp Looks like it’s now £1,190 (which actually seems like a lot, considering the details here?)

west coast heat dome blues (morrisp), Saturday, 10 September 2022 23:08 (two months ago) link

Oh right, I didn't check the crowdfunding page. Still quite a bit short though.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 September 2022 23:09 (two months ago) link

I see among the categories is "Mike Leigh"

Nice try...

Mark G, Sunday, 11 September 2022 09:20 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

can’t quite work out what that last comment relates to, but the fall did have a drummer called mike leigh (no not that one) around dragnet time.

Fizzles, Monday, 3 October 2022 17:42 (two months ago) link

A balding Teddy Boy iirc.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 3 October 2022 17:52 (two months ago) link

interviewed in The Fallen!

sleeve, Monday, 3 October 2022 17:59 (two months ago) link

Early drummer, a balding Teddy Boy
Mistaken
For famous
Film directahhh

certified platinum by the British Pornographic Industry (morrisp), Monday, 3 October 2022 18:40 (two months ago) link

Not surprising that Mark E. Smith was a bit of a slob.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 3 October 2022 19:01 (two months ago) link

Best artist of all time.

CerebralCaustic, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 02:47 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

The five former-Fall members have joined together as HOUSE Of ALL. Their self-titled album will be released Spring 2023 & we're planning a very limited run of live shows to celebrate this unexpected coming together of former soldiers of The Fall. Aren’t we lucky! pic.twitter.com/DLWovi5nRB

— Tiny Global Productions (@tinyglobal123) November 16, 2022

city worker, Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:16 (two weeks ago) link

prediction: not as good as the Imperial Wax album, but happy to be surprised

imago, Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:36 (two weeks ago) link

Hanley, Hanley, Bramah, Wolstencroft, ???

sleeve, Thursday, 17 November 2022 16:31 (two weeks ago) link

greeeeeenwaayyyyyy

imago, Thursday, 17 November 2022 16:41 (two weeks ago) link

because they want to wear a large suit jacket

youn, Thursday, 17 November 2022 16:41 (two weeks ago) link


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