Conrad Schnitzler S/D

A triple-CD of Schnitzler remixes by the cream of the electronic
underground was supposed to materialize a couple of years
ago, but is still unreleased, afaik. Hrvatski's mail order
site, Mimaroglumusic Sales, Forced Exposure, and Other Music may have many of these titles.

Of the first round of solo color-themed records, I've only heard 'rot' and 'blau', long form meltdown. Sidelong livemixed drone & sequencer soundscapes. Great to mix with, as the textures are very unique, but not what I throw on for intact home listening too often. Though I hear 'Gelb' from 1981 is great.

yeah I've heard good things about 'live action 77', have to check that out!

The Art Gallery CDs reissue some cassette concerts. Shorter textural pieces, I guess excerpted from longer improvisations. 'Blue Glow' is great. 'Control' and 'Convex' are okay. I don't like the piano solo stuff.

'Con 3' was his pop record for Sky. He sings on it. Not uniformly compelling, but the last track on side 1 is a personal favorite, it just makes no sense. There was also a disco 12" on RCA Germany in the early 80's which I would pay a great deal of money for. It's primitive technopop, straight ahead lyrics, but... wrong. It all just sounds wrong. And therefore interesting, though probably not to that many people.

i have rot and i like it lots. so i want to know which of the forthcoming reissues (schwarz/blau/grun/gelb) i should be picking up. just based on what i've read i lean towards schwarz and blau but there's practically no useful information about the guy on the web and no one on soulseek is kicking down the schnitzler.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Conrad+Schnitzler

Rot is my favorite of the early total freeform pieces, though if you like that -- you want the other colors as well. I've heard Gelb since my last post -- some of the sounds, I could swear they're digital, was thinking there was no way this came out in the 70s. but perhaps.

I have a fantastic cassette of the early 80's electropop stuff that I really need to transfer, it beats Conrad & Sohn.

Ballet Statique, though -- if you like electronic music...

schwartz and rot still probably the first two to get of the color reissues on captain trip but since I've had both of those for years already, gelb is the one I'm digging the most

next up from captain trip:

CONRAD SCHNITZLER / CON
The original LP was released on Paragon (Germany), EGG (France). Recorded in 1978 at Paragon studio, Berlin. Produced by Peter Bauman (TANGERINE DREAM). Including three previously unreleased tracks as bonus. Reissue with elaborate miniature paper sleeve of the original LP. Digital remaster version, limited 1,000 copies!!

CONRAD SCHNITZLER / CON 2+
Special coupling album. Including "AUF DEM SCHWARZEN KANAL" (released on RCA in 1980, known as "CON 2") and previously unreleased album "CONSEQUENZ 3" (recorded in 1981). With special paper sleeve. Digital remaster version, limited 1,000 copies!!

CONRAD SCHNITZLER / CON 3
The original LP was released on SKY RECORDS, Germany in 1981. Including 6 bonus tracks (unreleased). Reissue with elaborate miniature paper sleeve of the original LP. Digital remaster version, limited 1,000 copies!!

CONRAD SCHNITZLER / Electrocon
Recorded in 1980-1981. Previously unreleased full album, 14 tracks. With special paper sleeve. Digital remaster version, limited 1,000 copies!!

When you order the 4 CON titles (CTCD-556, 557, 558, 559) on one time, you can get SPECIAL OUTER BOX and elaborate miniature paper sleeve of "AUF DEM SCHWARZEN KANAL" 12inch (These presents are limited edition).

more money i don't have.

Rot is crazier and travels through zones, Blau stays circling in place, they're both cool

I didn't know Auf Dem Schwarzen Kanal was Con 2, I can hardly wait to hear that. Con 3 was the pop album for Sky Records, not my favorite.

CONRAD SCHNITZLER / CON
The original LP was released on Paragon (Germany), EGG (France). Recorded in 1978 at Paragon studio, Berlin. Produced by Peter Bauman (TANGERINE DREAM).

aka Ballet Statique. aka the one, the peak, a thing, the start here

Later Schnitzler is all freeform electronic. If you like Cluster 74-78 you definitely need Con, it's the warped, atonal, alien insect garden to Sowiesoso's quiet forest lakeside picnic. Produced by Peter Baumann around the same time as Roedelius' Jardin au Fou & Lustwandel.

xp: yeah! thanks milton, cause crack in the cosmic egg isn't exactly helpful re: tha schnizz.

i've seen rot and blau talked up a lot but have yet to check them out due to laziness or whatever. still not quite sure what to expect but i'm kinda excited to finally hear them.

http://www.matthowarth.com/

still haven't heard Gelb yet though .. GOTTA get that one soon..

Listened to Gelb four times in a row last night, beautifully weird, I think this one is one of my favorites now. Want to hear Live Action 77 and Charred Machinery.

Or has it and I somehow missed it?

it includes his 'disco' record from 1980 - the 'auf dem schwarzen kanal' ep - which has devastated my head.

yow

http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=848162

someone kick that ass in the nuts.

also, hi record labels of the world - how about some conrad schnitzler reissues that stay in print for more than a month?

for example he's trying to sell an old spalax version of "seligspreisung" (no remaster or bonus tracks) for $30 so obv he's charging idiotic prices

but i should still expect to spend $100-200 on the set, right?

they were $26 around here when they came out ($22+shipping from the label, which is how i got them), so if they're "new" i'd bet on at least $125. i'm really wishing i had bought schwartz and rot (have the plate lunch jewel case version of the latter) now, didn't expect them to sell out so fast.

faux-xp: wait a minute, now that i look at that link... DVD? i don't recall a DVD ever being part of that set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBUa4EFDc_M

Pictures from the 1969 film by Dietmar Buchmann shows scenes from Conrad Schnitzler's Zodiak Free Arts Lab

www.myspace.com/freeartslab

"trigger trilogy"??

its weird that considering how you can't get people to shush about cluster / tangerine dream / neu / etc these days there's so little hype on kluster on the internet. what should i expect if i haven't heard them before? cluster 71 type of sound?

i don't know about kluster, but did anybody buy the two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac last month, the ones with the dandy jack, bruno pronsato and thomas fehlmann remixes? they're great!

xp: sort of. or a little like the first tangerine dream. or AMM or something. eh? water just put out a 3 disc kluster anthology with the albums and one unreleased (?) thing.

http://www.jazzloft.com/p-47658-1970-1971-boxed-set.aspx

I love the first 3 Kluster records. They're studio recordings of live improvisations, a lot more murky and primitive than Cluster '71, but still great. Very much like an extension of all the most extreme noisy aspects of what Schnitzler was doing on the first Tangerine Dream record. First side of the first two albums have freakout religious texts recited in German on them which throws a lot of people off the trail. The original 90's CD issues on Hypnotic had bonus tracks taken from this which were wisely left off, there's no new material. When I heard these in the 90's they were a little too out for me, though I could respect them, but I come back to these every few years and they sound better every time, and when the noise CDR release scene started up and Spencer and Pete started handing me Skaters / Yellow Swans things, these Kluster records from 1970 were the first things I thought of

>two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac

I want these

Captain Trip also put these out, haven't heard any of the early 80's self-releases, I should check some of them out:

Early Self-Product Series - Including the 5 titles (CTCD-614-618) which are: -CONSEQUENZ -CONTEMPORA -CONTEXT -CONVEX - 1.7.84 - and a bonus CD (CTCD-619) in special outer box (totally 6CD box-set). This bonus CD is called 3.3.83 and was originally pressed in an edition of 1 copy for Conrad Schnitzler personally! Recorded in 1983, including bonus tracks. 2008 digital remaster version with stumped paper sleeve, same as the original.

haven't heard Trigger Trilogy either! It is just impossible to keep up with this guy. I'm still going back to Ballet Statique often enough that it's tough to move forward

Bumping for new reissue of the Silver LP from the colour series. Kinda tempted.

Silver LP? What's that?

Taken from sessions recorded at the same time as the colour series (Rot, Blau, Schwarz, etc). Unreleased, perhaps? Warning bells??

All I know is it's a QBICO release. I saw it at Volcanic Tongue. Not much word about it elsewhere.

samples sound ok to me, never heard any of that stuff before: http://www.juno.co.uk/products/341746-01.htm

simultaneously the best and the worst album cover.

I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals, four tracks absolute top notch. the tracks stay looping in place for 4-6 minutes each, but all the sounds are beautifully off

you are sweet, milton

just heard from seidel, who told me that he's printing it out and delivering it to con's wife

Great piece

yeah!

thanks, guys!

Dave weighs in at the Stranger, great headline:

http://lineout.thestranger.com/lineout/archives/2011/08/24/the-longest-article-on-the-internet-about-conrad-schnitzler

finally got around to reading your article, geeta. really loved it.

thanks, alan.

i've been getting a lot of letters from people asking me to post the 30-page-long Con email that I refer to in the article. wondering if that's a good idea.

i mean, it is long. there is certainly interesting stuff in there. most of it is in german. but perhaps i should wait before doing that. for one thing, it'd be good to translate the whole thing from german to english. but also, to interpret it, try to give it some context, instead of just dropping it on my website as a giant mass of data. for example, there's a lot of interesting stuff in there about his thoughts on various sculptors (jean arp, alexander archipenko, etc); a lot of stuff about rhythm, and his concept of how rhythm works, and about painting (especially jackson pollock)

i was going to say ... and i was going to ask whether it's enough for a 33 1/3 or something that length?

not that they'd do a 33 1/3 on ballet statique or whatever

ha ha! i think writing one 33 1/3 book was enough for me!

if i wrote a 120-page book about something like this, something that meant a lot to me that was a bit too 'out-there' for yr average american publishing house--and just distributed it myself, as a PDF, would people be into it? perhaps i could get people to send donations? if i could get people to agree to pay $10 up front (perhaps for a 'signed, numbered' copy that's printed on nice paper?) i could probably afford to do this.

i would

<3

now i just need to round up another 2,999 people and it's a go

#2999!

if i wrote a 120-page book about something like this, something that meant a lot to me that was a bit too 'out-there' for yr average american publishing house

I was going to suggest talking to the folks who put out the Roedelius biography "Painting with Sound", which was about that length iirc and padded out by lots of glossy photos, but the internet says that's the only book they ever published, so I guess they're probably the author's one-man operation rather than an actual publisher you could pitch to.

Anyway somehow I heard of that and bought a real paper copy without knowing the author or even being a hardcore obsessive Roedelius fan, if that gives you any hope.

Thing I was strangely delighted to learn: Conrad's son Gregor i.e. the teenager ranting on Conrad und Sohn has gone on to be a screenwriter, incl. for long-running much-loved German crime show Tatort

now i just need to round up another 2,999 people and it's a go

I'm in. So that's, what, another 2996 to go?

Count me in, too.

But I don't really see why it being a long e-mail and parts of it in German should obstruct it being posted in full, if you think it can be interesting to many?

if it was $10 i bet i could get 10 friends to buy it

ich habe vier jahre deutsche klasse gelearned im schule

see if you can spot the fake german in that sentence

for what it's worth ILX has some folks who do small publishing (forget their usernames), they did chapbooks for Abbott and ZS

chancepress.com

blurb.com books can look pretty nice too

i think we're down to 2,994 now

<3 all of you

posting to ILM from my phone, in the hospital--today totally sucks :(

ugh, sympathies

conrad schnitzler archive & live cassette concert mixed by gen ken montgomery, streaming now on wfmu

with promised special guest appearence by g. dayal

Oh great!

Very interesting. Only complaint is the background music playing during the interview parts is too loud.

thanks for listening, you guys!

it was definitely worth extending my NYC trip for this, though i am now coming down with a lousy cold

I'd say even a cold was worth it, loved listening to it! Great and fitting tribute to a wonderful man <3

a few snapshots from yesterday's WFMU session:

http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/tapes.jpg

http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/kwh.jpg

http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/schoenheit.jpg

I had a splendid time listening to it yesterday Geeta, a very fitting tribute!

Sometimes my friends would recognise me and come up to me, say, ‘Hey, Con, what are you doing?’ I would just speak to them in a robot voice through the loudspeaker. ‘I do not understand. I am not Con. Would you like to buy a cassette?’”

lol

oh, there's a pic too

http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/schnitzler__conrad/Schnitzler-street.jpg

wow that's great. people who figured out how to live imho.

classic pic!

been listening to "Blau" a lot lately - does anyone know what the "Wild Space" bonus tracks are? very cool but clearly much more recent than the actual album!

now I'm onto Con..crazy how much "Ballet Statique" seems to have influenced Underworld

röt and blau reissued on bureau b!

picked up blau today, röt got backordered

here's hoping for schwarz, gelb, grön, con 1, con 2+ and con 3 ...

errr grün

Yeah, I got Blau, too. Already had it on CD but I'm more likely to listen to side-long electronic tracks on LP. Hope they do Schwarz et al, too!

think we talked about this on noize but the captain trip shit is so expensive at this point!

thank you again bureau b!

Got the m=minimal reissue of Ballet Statique / Con with the Red Cassette added on, amazing, where has this been all my life?

hey someone in new york go to this and post back

> The Last Weekend at AVA-Generator Saturday & Sunday
>
> Saturday September 14, 2013
>
> 12 - 6pm
> CONRAD SCHNITZLER
> SIX HOUR CASSETTE CONCERT
> CONDUCTED BY GEN KEN
> Drop by anytime Saturday for a rare opportunity to hear octophonic music composed
by one of the foremost masters of electronic music. Schnitzler studied sculpture
with Joseph Beuys before turning his attention to sound. Hear Schnitzler’s music
the way he wanted his audiences to hear it.
>
> THE LAST NIGHT AT AVA GENERATOR - Closing Party 8 - 11pm
>
> 9pm
> The Enchantress of Bioluminosity
> with live sound by Michael Zodorozny (Crash Course in Science) and Gen Ken Montgomery
> +
> 10pm
> 3D SLIDE SHOW by Lary Seven
> 3-D photographs taken at Generator 1989-1990

http://audiovisualarts.org/5973/generator

I went to this! the space was quite small but it was easy to get lost in the layers of sound and it was a real treat to be able to hear this stuff 'mixed' like that. 'gen ken' is a super nice guy too and had some amazing records and related memorabilia out.

I was unfamiliar with what was being played but I did hear some material in a 'symphonic' style I wasn't aware schnitzler had dabbled in. lots of synthesized strings and the playing was fairly busy. sorry if I'm being vague but I only caught bits here and there. would be very grateful if anyone could steer me towards any releases in schnitzler's catalog that might match this description!

gelb and grün reissued!

i always hear his name in the voice of ned flanders saying 'white wine spritzer'

only listened briefly to the gelb reissue but it sounds really good

Grun is pretty great if memory serves.

damn ballet statique fuckin' slaps

not enough talk about Silber itt, that one's staggeringly great as well, some tracks are even melodic in a proto-Chris Carter kinda way. I love Asmus Tietchens liner notes where he plays detective trying to figure out what synth was used

the essential Bureau B reissue CDs have great bonus tracks to boot, some good stuff on the Gelb CD too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e1jboetIMs

Have watched this a bunch of times, but didn't realize it was posted by his official YouTube channel, or that there were dozens of other videos to check out.

Couple of Bureau B rereleases happening:

https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/con-84

https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/consequenz-ii