The Strokes - Classic or Duds?

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The Strokes, are they the most exciting band to emerge in some time? Or are they ripping off old trends? Discuss.

Jon, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, we've done this already, believe me, though I don't know where it's been filed.

DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Word has it at BMG that the full length is gonna make all y'all Stroke haters eat your words. Of course, we signed the damn band, so . . . eh . . .we'll see.

bnw, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm sure it will.

DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Please tell me this is a hoax

JC, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Sigue Sigue Sputnik?

Andy, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Look, I haven't even heard the Strokes yet, but even if their debut LP is good, it doesn't make them "classic". Let's calm down.

Sean, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm telling you guys, they're an overhyped drag. They not terrible but they ain't no Velvets!

Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Okay, I'll waste a few words on The Strokes since I finally heard that single. Not bad really, if it were released in 1974 ;) And this fake bad production trick is a bit sad in 2001 innit? On the voice: the guy sounds like Lou Reed's nephew, which comes down to being a fake of a fake. Mmm, now they sound interesting again :)

1 album/fake debates in Brit-press on the future of RAWK&ROLL/"Man, if you don't like The Strokes you don't like rock, man"/disappointing sales/2030: remember these guys?

Omar, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I hate their fucking names. What the hell kind of a name is 'Nikolai Fraiture'? Worse than that, guys with stupid names like that always get pussy!

dave q, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Five tracks from the album have already been released on the singles so far, which is a shame. Hard To Explain is wicked, The Modern Age is pretty good...

We'll see.

You can't really ask classic or dud before the debut album though, surely?!

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Strokes kind of got elected Top Band for ILM to Hate, thanks primarily to the Attitude of a Certain Capering Demon that ILM grew to love to hate, currently absent, due any minute now (sigh!) to return ("It is I! Doompatrol! HahaHAA!)

Who — completely by bad luck and unlucky timing — your first posts somewhat reminded some of us of, hence the mean-ass whirlwind you inadvertently walked into, Nick. i.e. We thought you were someone else in new disguise and were goading him out of hiding. Our instant disgreements would have been a lot more polite and friendly (or anyway less sneery) had DP not been buggering abt so assiduously up till a week ago.

Unfortunately a talk-board this big and diverse tends to acquire a hate figure to unify it: he left, you arrived, and you Got Elected. I would like to propose you are hereby UNELECTED (DG? Robin? Cool it!) as Top Hate Figure, because you have no more deserved it than I have. (Esp. as your outburst at OBJECTIVITY vs SUBJECTIVITY wasn't a meeeeeeellion miles from my own feelings abt some of it: ie that it was a bit ponderous and up itself..., tho some of it was somewhat more sarcastic than first meets the eye)

Your degree was in Popular Culture and Cultural Studies, wan't it? (Sorry, I read it in Introduce Yourself and have now forgotten the exact wording.) So a. You surely have intellectual interests in common with lots of us. b. You're probably a bit bored with the more dreary or inadequate reaches of same (jeezus GOD fair enough). We seem at this moment to be having a mini-season of replication of grad-school discussion of Lit Theory. Which ius getting nowehere because it is too REPECKFUL of FAMOUS-NAME cliches, and BOUGHT-IN READYMADE MEMES. (I won't say names NOW, because I am preparing devasting hilarious war oh yes...) (Is it a meme if it's rubbish?)

I think in its scrappy wayward dilettante way this board in 11 months has contributed FAR more to CultStud than several of the bigwigs on your booklist for your postmodernism essay ever have or ever will. Seriously. Better ideas anyway. Not followed through: this is the internet and instant hedonism rules.

This is a sort of apology/friendly gesture/welcome-to-the-board-after-a-v.hairy-start type thing.

Now: LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So that means you like The Strokes, Mr.Sinkah? :)

Omar, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Nevah heard a note, Omah!! Doubtless they are toss.

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Cheers! ehehehehehehe...

Um, thanks. Yeah.

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I heard some Strokes sound samples finally.
Response: "Oh."

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The question should be: Do you like stuff that is 'Retro'? This music is for 13- year olds. Before they get into other, more 'progressive' stuff. Or for people who want to be 13 for ever end ever...

The same 13 year-olds who bought into Oasis all those years ago (myself included).

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It's not so much a question of "retro" as a question of being totally devoid of any other defining qualities. There's not a single reason to listen to them when they're stripped of their nostalgia factor. Plenty of bands can carry off a retro sound with a shred of originality/personality that makes them worth listening to.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Ah, but they're having fun, aren't they? And that counts for something in my book.

I wish I was still 13, I could run forever and I was wicked a football.

Anyone who starts a track the way The Strokes start NYC Cops deserves a medal, because it's just got verve and spunk to it, and that's ace.

But I'm genetically pre-disposed to anyone who sounds like the Velvets and The Stooges anywa, especially if they chuck in some glorious pop hooks and some suggestion of melancholy.

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I disagree- all you need is somes tunes, a singer that can sing and to look good and any band with a 'retro' sound can suceed. there are no other qualities that a retro band actually needs. Also, you seem to be saying that originality and personality are the same thing. Explain?

I actually don't like anyting that's remotely retro now because I really like music that appears to me to be more original/experimental but that doesn't matter in the world of pop. As long as they have a bit of charisma, they could be huge (even that might not matter- look at Travis?)

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Well a band like Clinic has a distinctly retro (Velvets and doowop especially) sound, but also has a lot of qualities that separate them from being exclusively a nostalgia act. The presence of a Krautrock influence, brief incidences of lyrical brilliance, etc. They have more going than a simple robbery of previous styles.
And I'm not saying that originality and personality are the same thing, but that they can become inextricably intertwined.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not saying The Strokes are the best band in the world, far from it, but they have got some good tunes, an appealing attitude (to some), and an aura of excitement around them (whether it's pre- fabricated by the press or not).

I'd much rather listen to The Strokes than Travis. Why? More up my street. Plus the second track on the debut EP has the best drum beat ever...

ehehehehehehe...

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Green Day?

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

sadly, i was in the monarch the other day, and they played a strokes record (don't know which one), it actually reminded me of weezer covering kicker conspiracy. this isn't necessarily a bad thing

gareth, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I don't mind them, but they're not going to save the world. They're just a slightly more oomphy Jonathan Fire*Eater.

alex in nyc, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Strokes are just not what I need right now. I can't really say whether they're classic or dud at this point; I haven't heard enough of their output, and I think it's a little early to tell one way or the other. Still, they do absolutely nothing for me. I feel like - oh, I don't know, no matter what I say, it's going to come across as snide and arrogant - but dammit, there's so much MORE to music than the Strokes... That sounds terribly snobby, like I'm trying to say you should only like things that are Significant and Vital and Enriching, rather than things that are just fun. But the Strokes are such safe fun; it just feels like an exercise, especially what they're doing at this point in time - and context is important, iddnit?. I mean, the Stooges/VU/whoever were, and are, a great deal of fun, but it's at least partly because of what was going on around them at the time that they were so refreshing and amazing. (Sorry if that seems painfully obvious.) Now _Here Come the Warm Jets_ - THAT'S fun! (and it's also what I happen to be listening to as I type...)

Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i've had the album for the last two weeks - it's very good, though more remiscent of late 70s punk/po/clash ska than velvets - spoke to one of them last week cos they;re in oz right now - very hard workers,they don't believe the hype and are blown away by the overkill in the uk press.

Geoff, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

What the fuck did they expect when they started getting attention over there, though? Are there really bands coming along who *don't* know how UK overhype works? Morons.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Well, Clinic is a bad example 'cause I never liked them- they always copied the worst aspects of the velvets and I'd like to know a bit about their Krautrock influence because from the songs I've heard it just isn't there.

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, Ned, but it doesn't happen to every band. Why the Strokes? The UK press (we really mean the NME when we say this, no?) seems to pick its saviours at random.

There are a million bands like the uninspiring Strokes, at least one of which is playing in a pub or bar near you tonight. If I was in a band as workaday as them, I'd be fucking *staggered* if we got two lines in the local freesheet.

Still, they're upper middle class and I understand daddy is a big cheese in the fashion industry. Probably explains a lot.

Venga, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Nancy Boy?

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I hear a lot of Faust and Neu! in Clinic.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Strange that. I hear a lot of Faust and Neu! in clinics.

Jerry, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I hear a lot of Kenny G in clinics.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

You can take the Groucho mask off now, Everett. ;-)

Venga, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Find me a clinic where they *play* Faust and Neu! and I might just last the whole 28 days!

colin clark, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Ah, the Strokes can't win. They've barely squeezed out a decent- sized log, and they're already suffering through a torrent of press (both good and bad). Stupid BMG is going to be eating their shorts with a severe lack of condiment assistance.

If you're going to focus on a New York rock group, go check out the Joyous Nu Order stylings of Interpol, or freaky-deaky Providence transplants like Les Savy Fav, or the posh new-wave poetry of My Favorite. And might I add that I'm terribly disappointed that the No- Depression types in the UK press STILL haven't picked up on the greatness that is Ida? (Or are you folks strictly looking at those folks that are only a few spiritual steps away from Nashville, like Laura Cantrell or Ryan Adams? They're all fine and good, mind you, but, for the luvva Loretta Lynn, open your bloody ears!)

And I think there's a definite Can-via-the-Fall garage rock thing happening with Clinic (especially on stuff like "The Return of Evil Bill").

David Raposa, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I heard an advance of the LP... it's pretty good, but the single was better, and that's not a good sign. They might do okay in the UK, but it ain't gonna fly in the US, is it? With that weird cheap microphone effect of EVERY song... Fred Durst and Brittany own this country.

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

No one aside from music geeks has even heard of The Strokes in the US.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yay for Les Savy Fav! I saw them play in student lounges and house parties and they are lotsa fun. Tho I will always miss my favorite Providence band, Thee Hydrogen Terrors.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Double yay for Les Savy Fav. In case you're wondering why...

Why see a band? Stay home with a video of Kurt Cobain’s belches, if that’s your speed. You like the band who remind you of the time that you once had when the world didn’t matter. Personally, I like a band who can play to 30 people and make it seem like 31. A band who realise that rock shows are mundane, pointless. A passing diversion. Capes don’t do it for me. Neither do hair-slides. You think a band’s going to win me over through the sheer brilliance of their invention or musicianship? Get real. The last time I saw someone original, I was being belted on the back by a midwife. “Thank you. If you cheer loud enough, we will not return.” Music is the great comforter, the pacifier. Here’s the reason I like angular NYC quintet Les Savy Fav. They don’t remind me of any of the above bands. No. They remind me of explosive, obstreperous Dutch insurrectionists The Ex. (Hah!) Also, songs like “Wake Up!” , ‘This Incentive” and “Titan” (from new album “The Cat And The Cobra”) know when to start and when to stop. Frankly, though, neither of those are reasons at all - however frantically Mr Harrison Haynes bangs on his drums, or Mr Seth Jabour labours to invent slightly different sounds on his battered guitar. No. Les Savy Fav charm all 30 of us tonight in the UK’s Smallest Venue Offical - and believe me, it really does feel like there are 31 present - because they try. An event isn’t an event unless the people there treat it as such. So the deceptively normal-looking singer Mr Tim Harrington goes on walkabout. He examines an array of different objects - lights, fans, beer glasses, an audience member’s hand, turntables, the front door, every audience member’s back, the ceiling - while sing/shouting. He jumps up. He jumps down. He’s polite, yet intense. He makes us feel privileged to be in Brighton, England.

Sorry, but I thought someone might be interested. I have no idea what these Strokes are you people seem so interested in. But I do know what "Diff'rent Strokes" are.

Jerry, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

If Todd Bridges were in the Strokes, I might be more interested.

Nicole, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah -- sounds like they've got Mr. Drummond-level scratch backing them up. I hear Charlene goes for leather dudes.

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

(Oh, yeah - the obvious gag. Har-de-har-har-har.)

Supposedly, at a show I attended, Mr. Harrington attempted to mount the face of an audience member. How the hell did I miss THAT?!? (Jerry - get that LSF bitch published somewhere, yo - they could use the press. And their latest release, actually, is the _Rome_ EP on Southern Records. New album coming soon, too!)

In the US, I doubt The Strokes would be able to sell water to dehydrated camels, no matter how good they are. Andy speaketh the truth - it's all about boobies (or, in Fred's case, boobs).

You want rock & melon-farmin' roll, you want some Ted Leo (who just so happens to have an album out on Lookout!, which seems to be quite the hot ticket nowadays, though I still need to get my own copy to judge for myself, but I liked Ted's 1st solo effort, along with Chisel's later efforts, so my endorsement for Ted is justified). (Thank you.)

Fuck the Strokes - name some other fresh-n-new rock bands, maaaaan.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

David-- Email me your mailing address and I'll send you a Ted Leo promo...Today!

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I bought Rome(written upside down) after reading Kris's end of year list. Played it once and thought it was the worst record I'd ever heard. Put it on again two months later and it rocked like a crazed bastard. I understand it's normally classed as emo, but it sounds nothing like any of the other emo I've heard. The keyboards have something to do with it, but there's an intelligence and genuine aggression about it that is missing from most of yer obvious 'feel-my- pain' bog standard emo timechange frenzy. And it's got ace lyrics about Caeser and stuff.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Maybe theyy should be called teh "Dopes" HA HA HA HA!!!!! (sucks fingers happily)

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I prefer The Chickens.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Name one -- ONE --- Rock'N Roll band this NOT retro in one way or another...please...we could discuss this forever. These kids weren't even inspired by the bands they've been compared to when they grew up -- they are teenagers for heaven's sake! I bet they went out to buy some Stooges, Chameleons, Television, Velvets only AFTER they read all hype that surrounded them. They loved Nirvana and Pearl Jam just as much as most of their fellow generation x'ers. And that's ok -- that's what makes them sound fresh. I've been going to Strokes shows for over a year and trust me, they have come a long way, musically speaking. I love their songs, what can I say....

stuck+in+nyc, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

come a long way = no more sets with the amp turned off

I saw the end of Les Savy Fav when they opened for the Ex at the Knitting Factory. Eh.

Dave M., Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Interpol are aural Ambien and were one-upped by fucking Editors

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 20:54 (six months ago) Permalink

LOL flappy bird.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:00 (six months ago) Permalink

honestly, what NYC rock scene stuff do ppl feel they sound a lot like? early Blondie maybe musically a bit? The Ramones I guess in a way but they are so influential it's almost like saying a rock band is influenced by Chuck Berry.... Like they def don't remind me of Television, Dead Boys, Patti Smith, Heartbreakers, Dictators, NY Dolls, Voidoids, Talking Heads

They just sound like a super-generic garage rock act to me - the Sonics if the Sonics had been bored rich wannabe-junkies.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:27 (six months ago) Permalink

they dressed up like NYC 70s rock scene but sonically were closer to the Cars and Tom Petty

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:28 (six months ago) Permalink

individual singles from the first album still sound all right but the monotone that pervades everything (same rhythm, same vocal affect, etc.) is painful in album form

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:30 (six months ago) Permalink

did someone quote the NYT detail that three (3) WH officials "conceding," by way of defending trump, that he's too stupid to know enough to disclose anything dangerous

goole, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:41 (six months ago) Permalink

lmao wrong thread

goole, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:41 (six months ago) Permalink

idk, it's a paul banks lyric, there's a joke there somewhere

goole, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:42 (six months ago) Permalink

it's weird to me that the strokes get this type of invective. they've always just been good band with an amazing debut to me...maybe cause I was too young to experience the hype train?

meekseeks mill (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:45 (six months ago) Permalink

*just been a good-ish band

meekseeks mill (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:46 (six months ago) Permalink

I like the debut okay, but I really haven't listened to it since it was new. At that time I liked most bands in that post-Velvet Undergroundy continuum: Modern Lovers, Feelies, Dream Syndicate, Yo La Tengo...

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:50 (six months ago) Permalink

I like the strokes, interpol, AND the ratpure, what do I win

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:52 (six months ago) Permalink

a shameful memory of something you did at don hill's

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:56 (six months ago) Permalink

I love Duran Duran, I tolerate their doggerel, but Interpol was a bag of mayo on fire: ugly, self-serious, terrible fashion sense.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:57 (six months ago) Permalink

idk, it's a paul banks lyric, there's a joke there somewhere

― goole

he was ahead of his time

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:05 (six months ago) Permalink

it's probably not their best front-to-back but Comedown Machine is the Strokes album I return to the most these days by far

ufo, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:23 (six months ago) Permalink

haven't rly kept up with them but early YYYs were really really good imo -- i saw them at a small club in 2002 and they blew everyone else off the stage. i remember liking the first two strokes albums ok, pleasant enough, but not something i've ever gone back to.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:26 (six months ago) Permalink

I couldn't bring myself to listen to that last YYYs album but they had a very good run and were great live as well

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:33 (six months ago) Permalink

the last Strokes and Interpol records were both among their best tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:42 (six months ago) Permalink

top challop

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:44 (six months ago) Permalink

i didn't see any of these bands live but the YYYs were my favorite working band that decade, from audiogalaxying the "master" ep as an easily/pleasantly shocked hs freshman to buying fever to tell in A Record Store! not Borders! the first time i visited NYC to pazzing it's blitz in college. gr8 band, love them in all phases tbh. never seen david letterman crush on anyone that hard either.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 23:01 (six months ago) Permalink

it's probably not their best front-to-back but Comedown Machine is the Strokes album I return to the most these days by far

― ufo, Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:23 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no it's totally their best front-to-back

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 23:02 (six months ago) Permalink

sorry i heard the comedown machine siren

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 23:03 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, Comedown Machine is a fantastic record. The only weak moments are where they try and sound like old Strokes. Overall, Room On Fire is easily my favourite.

Interpol's debut stands up and Antics is pretty enjoyable. Delete everything after that, especially the self titled album which was a disaster.

Yeah Yeah Yeahs were getting better with each album until Mosquito which was almost as bad as the artwork. It's Blitz is the one I go back the most.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 23:24 (six months ago) Permalink

the s/t Interpol record was at least properly produced - the third one (Our Love to Admire) has that really high-end, nasally cocaine sound. Also the first half is better than anything on OLTA or the dud dud dud El Pintor album. "Summer Well," "Barricade," "Memory Serves," and "Success" are all Antics/Bright Lights caliber, especially "Summer Well."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 23:39 (six months ago) Permalink

I will also defend the s/t - they got unfairly slated for how depressing and bleak it was...for some reason?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 23:51 (six months ago) Permalink

The closing two tracks are among their most evocative

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 23:51 (six months ago) Permalink

that record is bleak and depressing?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 23:54 (six months ago) Permalink

is this it?.. i was really really resistant when it first came out, seemed like such a tacky and dumb band to get so much hype and the music was annoying as shit. but i got into after a few months. that smooth velvety(fabric not band) sound is so sumptuous. their music had a nice warm energy. good tunes, good vocalist. totally classic.

room on fire is almost as good, the highs might be higher. "under control" is a massive song.

haven't listened to their later albums for some reason

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:22 (six months ago) Permalink

loved is this it, hated room on fire with a passion, never bothered with any of the rest.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:24 (six months ago) Permalink

not really into any of these new york bands, "maps" is cool..

as for Fisherspooner, "emerge" is great but i dig electro/electro-revivial in general and my standards aren't terribly high.. it has a strange minimal structure to it though, the way the drums kind of drop in and out until the full on barrage towards the end. the wire cover sucked, iirc. rest of the album seemed ok.

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:27 (six months ago) Permalink

love Fischerspooner. lol i love the Wire cover too, i prefer it over the original.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:28 (six months ago) Permalink

franz ferdinand are terrifying

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:29 (six months ago) Permalink

Interpol's first album was great, i spent a lot of time hearing that while driving to thrift stores.

The Rapture was a lot of fun especially in the club or for drunken dance parties. "House of Jealous Lovers" was an early 20s anthem for me. it was surprising to see them open for The Cure at years later and sonically it being a huge let-down. its a claustrophobic kind of music that just seems to reverberate into mush in an open-air amphitheater/festival setting.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:31 (six months ago) Permalink

loved is this it, hated room on fire with a passion, never bothered with any of the rest.

this is insane to me

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:31 (six months ago) Permalink

they dressed up like NYC 70s rock scene but sonically were closer to the Cars and Tom Petty

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, exactly, they started making more sense to me when i thought of the cars or like sniff n the tears

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:32 (six months ago) Permalink

not surprised to see a ton of extra-musical dismissals here

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:37 (six months ago) Permalink

I prefer Rooms on Fire -- it's funnier, more assured, songs about getting fucked up and their scene that are sharper musically and lyrically than the debut ("So many fish here in the sea/she wanted him, he wanted me"), but I'm not gonna argue about it. Minor band.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:40 (six months ago) Permalink

Not culturally

albvivertine, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:43 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm gay, we don't affect culture

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:43 (six months ago) Permalink

Visage and Ultravox are minor bands too. They affect culture more than greater ones.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:44 (six months ago) Permalink

love Fischerspooner. lol i love the Wire cover too, i prefer it over the original.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau)

The second Fischerspooner album is secretly really brilliant, especially A Kick In The Teeth which was even better than Emerge.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:57 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah Yeah Yeahs were fanrastic up until Mosquito, and It's Blitz! is easily one of my favourite albums of that decade without question.

I always thought Fischerspooner were crap.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:08 (six months ago) Permalink

Visage and Ultravox are minor bands too. They affect culture more than greater ones.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:44 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Island-era Ultravox were a very influential cult band.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:10 (six months ago) Permalink

Agreed!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:16 (six months ago) Permalink

I will also defend the s/t - they got unfairly slated for how depressing and bleak it was...for some reason?

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

lol

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:29 (six months ago) Permalink

sonically were closer to the Cars and Tom Petty

back to back "American Girl" and "Last Night" is a great DJ move.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 02:07 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

the inevitable hyperbole-laden retrospective -
"it was a bomb in the middle of a plastic pool"? sounded to me like just another bunch of guys with guitars.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/27/that-was-it-how-the-strokes-and-new-york-rock-ripped-up-british-music

The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:43 (three months ago) Permalink

i see this has been largely covered upthread, carry on.

The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:44 (three months ago) Permalink


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