― neil simpson, Thursday, 5 June 2003 09:56 (twenty years ago) link
― francesco, Thursday, 5 June 2003 10:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 5 June 2003 10:51 (twenty years ago) link
Simply to call it "classic" wouldn't even get close; probably the greatest album ever made.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 5 June 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 5 June 2003 12:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 5 June 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Thursday, 5 June 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
"Dachau blues those poor Jews Dachau blues those poor Jews Dachau blues, Dachau blues those poor Jews Still cryin' 'bout the burnin' back in World War Two's One mad man six million lose Down in Dachau blues, down in Dachau blues The world can't forget that misery 'n the young ones now beggin' the old ones please t' stop bein' madmen 'fore they have t' tell their children 'bout the burnin's back in World War Three's War One was balls 'n powder 'n blood 'n snow War Two rained death 'n showers 'n skeletons Dancin' 'n screamin' 'n dyin' in the ovens Cough 'n smoke 'n dyin' by the dozens Down in Dachau blues Down in Dachau blues Sweet little children with doves on their shoulders Their eyes rolled back in ecstasy cryin' Please old man stop this misery They're countin' out the devil With two fingers on their hands Beggin' the Lord don't let the third one land On World War Three On World War Three"
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:15 (twenty years ago) link
.... errr.... discuss!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Norman, Thursday, 5 June 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link
Much prefer Clear Spot and those later albums with Tropical Hot Dog Nights, Bat Chain Puller and the one about Salt Lake City. I forget.
I've had about three Beefheart 'phases' and I reckon TMR is the worst.
Then again, I don't get Pet Sounds either and that me feels heretic.
― panico (panico), Thursday, 5 June 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Friday, 6 June 2003 07:08 (twenty years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Friday, 6 June 2003 08:13 (twenty years ago) link
It was absolutely baffling on first listen, but is now a favourite.
I liken the album to those Magic-Eye 3D pictures: those who can "see" it are the ones who giggle in amazement (at discovering a new way of seeing, ... or hearing), and wonder how on earth it works. And then there is everyone else, who wonder what the big deal is ...
― Michael Dubsky, Sunday, 8 June 2003 06:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Jrvision (visionjr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 07:01 (twenty years ago) link
i always kinda respected this album more than i ever wanted to listen to it...
but right now, i fucking LOVE it! i think i finally fell in love with trout mask replica.
― i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 1 February 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
on the grow fins box set (I think) there's one cd of beefheart and band practicing for tmr, and most of the tracks are instrumentals of tmr tracks. They're all great, but I mean the instrumental of sugar 'n spikes is kind of super revelatory. Kind of a must-hear imo.
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 1 February 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I had a similar kind of epiphany when I saw The Magic Band at ATP a few years back because they were just absurdly good, and to hear stuff off TMR and the other albums played live, by gnarly old dudes, was really blissfully entertaining.
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― Bill A, Monday, 1 February 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
This is seriously one of the worst albums I've ever heard in my life. I cannot listen to it.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link
TMR is a truly inspired and beautiful piece of classic american art, imo.The house sessions are revelatory. It just rocks like nothing else.Not for everyone, I guesss.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Beyond personal definitions of good and bad, it's an important record. It's not a fun record. (Not sure CB ever made one of those.)
― the end times are coming, but they're just the beginning (WmC), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link
cmon Safe as Milk is soo much fun. It can get the right crowds motivated to move.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not a fun record.it totally is! whaa? and capt. beefheart made plenty of fun records. maybe we have a different definition of fun.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link
one of the records that can make me nostalgic for the pre-internet age because wondering what it was like & hearing people talk about it/reading Langdon Winner about it was such a buildup & the curiosity got really intense over a sustained period of time before I actually found somebody who owned it to loan it to me. I remember getting it home: fuck yes, I'm going to hear it! and realizing I had no idea what I actually expected & being kind of floored by "moonlight on vermont."
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
OTM. Read about it for years before I heard it, mostly b/c it showed up on every Rolling Stone list. I could hear something in my head but it was very different from how it turned out. Took me many years to grow to love it
― Mark, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe we have a different definition of fun.
Could be. I love Beefheart and love TMR, don't get me wrong.
― the end times are coming, but they're just the beginning (WmC), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
The first weekend I moved into the dorms at college, I got Trout Mask Replica, Rain Dogs and that single CD of about everything Ryko did of Mission of Burma back in the late 80s. That was one ear opening CD haul. Hearing something like Songs About Fxxking or Damaged or Frankenchrist was a WTF is this stuff crazy. I think Trout Mask Replica far out weirded them all. You can get with anger and it is understadible but what kind of emotions was the Captain playing out? Hard to say. Rain Dogs also had plenty of wow that is just different, but then hearing the Dust Blows Forward, the Dust Blows Back or Dachau Blues was like something coming from another dimension.
I dunno, I have to think this kind of experience is very different in an age where so much information is easily aquired. The thing about something like Trout Mask Replica back then was you couldn't jump on a PC and get the back story to try and explain such weirdness. I ended up listening to much music that went further than the Captain, but it was a jumping off point of sorts.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
goddamn side 4 stands so well by itself... that side is the side that encapsulates the whole thing for me. at one point it was all I listened to off of this with occasional time outs for "Moonlight On Vermont".
― sleeve, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:38 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/MarkGrout/elegaroo.jpg
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 09:35 (fourteen years ago) link
John French has his book out
http://www.propermusic.com/epk/teaser/drumbobookteaser.jpg
http://www.propermusic.com/epk/teaser/vol1.html
― Duke, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link