Beck: Classic Or Dud

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I know! Let's have an argument about Beck!

Tom, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ultimately imperfect. I love what he likes and is unafraid to say he likes, but outside of a few songs the results make me want to listen to those folks rather than him. Points for trying, though. See: various scattered slams on him in the 136 list.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

well, he is definetely no classic. in my opinion. he first 2 albums were great in their wickedness. I loved them. But mutations isn't that good, as most people think. And his last album is just a bad joke. But Loser stays one of the best songs of the nineties. but I don't think it made him a classic.

Ludo

Ludo, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Nearing Dud status. i actually liked the 1st album, but after that, boring ironic shite. I used to have potential though, I saw play a gig once around the time of "Loser" and he reminded me of a white pixie version of Sly Stone.

o.munoz, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

This from Sterl and I as posted on our fab, way-out site InReview . Maybe You've heard of it? ----------------- Thought Experiment by Sterl and Jimmy:

Question A: Place Lenny Kravitz and Beck in order of popularity.

A: Lenny Kravitz, Beck

Question B: Why, then, is Lenny Kravitz more popular than Beck, considering that both are derivative of a particular time of music that can be placed, and both have a style that can be traced to two artists/genres (Kravitz::Beatles and Hendrix as Beck::James Brown and Stax)

A: Kravitz manages to attain broad cross-generational popularity, as those who like his influences tend to like him as well. On the other hand, those who like Beck's influences tend not to like Beck. Critical appreciation of Brown and Stax is driven more by the notion of "authenticity". Kravitz' sound was driven out by Punk, whereas James Brown and Stax never went away. The death of rock is always hailed, the death of soul never. Additionally, imagine a girl requesting a Beck video on TRL. What does she say? "I want Beck's devil's haircut, cuz' its so weird and funny." Beck traffics (for the general, not critical audience) in weirdness, and his ability to merge weirdness (not surrealism, just weirdness) with 60s Stax grooves. Kravitz, when he is requested, is "hot" and "rocks! Whooo!".

Conclusion: Popularity of Kravitz comes from the need of the older generation to have something to cling to in the new. Popularity of Beck is repackaging of what has been done before.

A (part 2): Kravitz is infinitely more stylish than Beck, who has become a slave to the form -- wears suits, dances with feet and not rest of body. Kravitz carries self as rock-star, with guitar slung low, mirrored sunglasses, etc. Beck, despite all pretensions is still too self-conscious.

Question C: Consider Beck by himself, and why is he more popular than Jon Spencer, whose style can be traced to two artist/genres (rockabilly/roots rock)?

A: Spencer is less eclectic than Beck, and more self conscious. Go figure.

JM, SC, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Um, that was interesting, but I really don't know what to say about it. Beck and Lenny are two I'd never think to compare.

Anyhow, Beck is neither classic nor dud. Can't you think of more vile, love'em hate'em artists these days, mon cheri? Beck just exists. Some of his songs are good. "Loser" is good, though sometimes not necessarily in the sense that, say, Dusty Springfield is good if you get my drift. "Jackass" is good. "Devil's Haircut" is adequate. Some of his songs are bad. He's really sort of in the middle, isn't he?

He's not an offensive personality, at least.

Ally, Saturday, 13 January 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

you are right. I think Beck is a really nice guy. but Midnite Vultures sucks.

peace, Ludo

Ludo, Sunday, 14 January 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud. Just about.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
classic. the rest of you are jackasses.

mygod=33, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

are you people JOKING! midnight vultures was INSANLY good, i listened to it over and over and over again it was great in almost every aspect execpt for the fact that it's on tape not cd,... (i hate my life,.. why can't i afford cds) anyway he;s definatly not classic,... but so far from dud it's not funny, true if you look at SALES maybe,... but honestly what do sales prove

Mog, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There's something about him, y'know? He's just so dang... EARNEST. He's like a puppy dog, trying to hard to please you can't help but crack a smile and enjoy it. Anyone seen him live? I saw him on the PBS show "Sessions at West 54th" and it was one of the most entertaining things I'd ever seen. Some people call him a "poser," or whatever, but that's the _point_. He's the ultimate poser, he has no musical identity beyond his Beck-ness. And he constantly surprises me. Who could have ever circa "Loser" that he had a great singing voice, circa "Debra" ?

Jack Redelfs, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Tedium and irritation, start to end.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Midnite Vultures was quite good, if only because he actually tried to write proper songs rather than boring us all to death with how incredibly hip and clever he is. Dud, nonetheless.

Ally C, Sunday, 18 March 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

His salvation is that already he gets canonized as great-white-dude, so he could pull some endless Neil Young-like career out of that. If not, his new album is going to sell very bad through lack of interest.

Omar, Monday, 19 March 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I love his music. Sorry.

Patrick, Monday, 19 March 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
That's a very 'considered' argument up there, pretty funny too, but too dismissive, in my opinion. I can only defend the handful of songs I heard from Midnight Vultures, as I too dislike his previous work (collaborations excepted.)
Yes, he is shallow. Yes, he is painfully po-mo. But by amplifying these 'percieved' deficiencies, as he does on MV, he turns them into assets. His parasitic nature is taken to an extreme, feeding from so many sources (you can't deny the range of genres he raids, Stax is but one of many), it reaches a point where it becomes self- sufficient, he sounds like Beck. Yep, he's a shallow as a mirror, and the vocals don't betray this, multi-tracking himself into so many reflections, he's everyone but himself. Even the heart-break of Debra, one of the few times he isn't filtered to abstraction, is a muffled laugh. So it's not fair to compare him to Lenny 'conviction' Kravitz, and suggesting that Beck soley repackages the past is a bit like saying a DJ plays records. (What past, who's past, there's so much past out there) It's what he's chosen, and the mannor in which he combines these elements that matters, creating new sounds from instruments and sounds that could never physically occupy the same studio space, some decades apart. There's more to these incongruous combinations than sheer perversity, or weirdness, he's using them differently to how they were intended to function, re-appropriating the obsolete and turning it to his own ends. But, it still doesn't make him Classic.

K-reg, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
mutations was written in 14 days. its fucking brilliant. anyone else hear the final track bonus noise. yah i did too. brilliant. beck has every albumsomewherei n his head. not classic though. more like cult hero. matt

matt, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Kurt Schwitters of modern music creating loveliness out of our cultural discards. Odd and charming stage persona,great visual artists, intruging Lewis Carroll doing smack on avenue A lyrics. CLASSIC

anthony, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Classic, classic, classic. Except for "Mellow Gold" and "Stereopathic Soul Manure" -- I just don't get them. I don't know if that makes me shallow or what. "Stereopathic" sounds like Ween, but even less funny. "Loser" is old news. "Mutations" is his classic, really amazing and insane and beautiful at the same time. Though I'm still bitter that the best song "Diamond Bollocks" is a hidden track.

Jack Redelfs, Tuesday, 25 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Mellow Gold is incredible bent cheap fun. I really started losing interest once the "Dust Brothers" got involved.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 25 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
for the record, it's stereopathetic soulmanure not stereopathic soulmanure. don't believe me, look it up.

mygod=33, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic all over. Mutations is his masterpiece as has been said before. What I like about him is his versatility (going from indie, blues, folky songwriter to soul/funk) and eclecticism. He uses stuff which has been there before and does something new out of it. His collage chef d'oeuvre was Odelay. And it still sounds much much better than most of the electronic stuff around which usually recycles much more in terms of samples. In terms of importance I'd say Beck was for the 90s what Prince was for the 80s. The most varied and most interesting of the big selling artists. A genius.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Who has Beck influenced?

Josh, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

following your quirky hipster album run with a straightforward pop-rock album but including a quirky bonus track like you used to do to prove that you're still the same old avant you = beck influenced the betas!

ethan, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

He's a Scientologist. That makes him a dud.

Ben Williams, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Hang on comparing Beck with Prince..ha ha ha ha ha. Surely you can't be serious. On Midnite Vultures he might want to be Prince...but he sure doesn't succeed although Sexx Laws is fantastic.

I figure I'd enjoy his stage show, a nice dose of showmanship methinks and he's got a cool looking bassist and Roger Manning on keys.

Some good tracks but on the whole not classic and so not comparable to Prince.

mms, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

There's something very familiar about all of this Beck hatred, from a girl's perspective. It's alright for a short black man to violate gender norms, but god forbid a straight white boy should do it. He's unforgivably elfin and playful for the plaid shirt crowd. If you don't like his music, fine - but I insist that there's something more going on here. They're mostly attacks on his character, which is pretty irrelevant but fairly typical of fanboys.

Kerry, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Surely you can't be serious.

Well both are midgets, so you can compare them. ;)

Omar, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw Beck live, and never expected him to be a good dancer (or even to dance), but there it is.

Sean, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

...attacks on Beck's character.

That's probably because Beck's "character" is an annoying, ill-conceived, cheap-irony-laden schtick that was old by the time Mellow Gold came out and has gotten progressively worse. I can't imagine how his smug attitude, crappy songwriting and utterly smackable face could appeal to anyone, especially not when Ween provide a million-times-better alternative. (This is my first attempt at html and please forgive me if I fuck it up and destroy LUSENET forever...)

adam, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Woohoo!

adam, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

utterly smackable face

I think he's kinda cute'n'cuddly.

Sean, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think "Get the Party Started" sounds like a Midnite Vultures track.

I don't think Beck is very good at interviews. When ever I see him on the tv being interviewed, it looks like the most awkward experience for interviewer & him. They aren't much fun to read, either.

Beck & Bjork seem to get the most awful descriptions in their writing. "Man(or woman)-child-fetus-space-pixie-cowboy-enigma" This sort of characterization has actually sort of petered off circa Mutations, for Beck. Bjork's still sadly stuck.

He used to be my favorite artist, now I'm not so sure. He hasn't put out an album in far too long. I want to know what he'll try to do. I get the feeling he's just given up. In the meantime, news about him makes me feel weird. Dating Wynona Ryder and becoming a Scientologist.

That said, I didn't listen to his stuff for about a year. I picked it up again about a week ago. The only album that left me with the feeling it used to was "Odelay".

1 1 2 3 5, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

He sold out after One Foot In The Grave. Sellout.

Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Beck's interviews. They may not be exciting and dynamic, but they're straightforward and informative, which is what I look for in interviews anyway. Also, surprisingly, many women I've talked to think he's attractive, though no Brad or even a Ben.

Jim Eichenburg, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Best interview evah = Interview magazine gets Timbaland to interview Beck, and they just start talking about nothing in particular, then discuss when they're open because they're looking to do more work together, and it just trails off, and every so often Interview injects something to try to get them talking about interview-type stuff but it doesn't work.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
I enjoy reading this but some of the comments are ignorant. Mutations and Midnight Vultures are great albums that are just as good if not better than Odelay. I'm sick of all those tired opinions that Beck's "unpolished music" is best. Its fun and interesting but c'mon, so are his later albums that are much better conceived.

As for Adam and Ben Williams, they need to get their heads on straight. How can judge Beck's character? You haven't even met him. Do you read Q magazine and say, "Hmm, his personality looks one diemensional. And as for Ben Williams, Beck is not even a Scientologist. If your going to make a lame judgement at least get your story straight.

Jared Caramel (jared), Saturday, 21 September 2002 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It pisses me off to no end when people associate Beck with irony. Why is it so hard to believe that a young white male might have genuine fondness for James Brown/Henry Mancini/Hank Williams? Why do ppl assume that Beck's bizarre lyrics and, err, interesting wardrobe represent a will to mock the genres he's using, and not just a will to bring his own personality to the fore in the music he loves? Why do ppl assume that just because *they're* cynical and jaded, everyone else must be, too?

I saw Beck on the Midnite Vultures tour. It was wild. It was funky. It was fun. It had every characteristic that a good Funk concert should have, and of course it's miles away from James Brown, but so what? Beck isn't JB, but he can emphasise with Brown's music and bring his own party to it. And yeah, he has a sense of humor, but so do Outkast. So did Sly Stone and Afrika Bambaata and Prince. Were they being "ironic", too?

So, yeah, I find Beck to be a classic. In a biography of his that I've read he says something to the effect that he considers his music to be a big house, and every genre is a different room that's invariably warm and inviting- that's what I love about the man, his enormous capability to embrace every genre you could care to think of and adapt it to his own personality.

Who has Beck influenced?

Most Quirk Pop in general reminds me of Beck- someone's already mentioned The Beta Band. I'd add Cake and The Eels to that list.

I don't think Beck is very good at interviews. When ever I see him on the tv being interviewed, it looks like the most awkward experience for interviewer & him

Taking sides: Beck being interviewed by Thurston Moore vs. Beck being interviewed by Space Ghost. I love both to bits.

And as for Ben Williams, Beck is not even a Scientologist. If your going to make a lame judgement at least get your story straight.

Actually, Beck has expressed an interest in scientology lately. But Prince's a Jehova's Witness, so whadyagonnado...

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 21 September 2002 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd add Cake and The Eels to that list.

Generally speaking I'd call that evidence for the prosecution.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 September 2002 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

daniel- the simple problem is that he seems to have a list of styles and from alb to alb he ticks them off. he doesn't seem to bring anything of his own. at no time I think this is Beck, it's just an endless Borg like assimilation of styles.

so there...

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 21 September 2002 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

When a German interviewer asked E whether Beck had influenced the Eels, he said "No, we're better than him. We've got three turntables and two microphones"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 21 September 2002 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Beck is classic for Odelay and Mellow Gold. He had more effect on a teenage me and my friends the Nirvana did for all their industry changing hoopla.
Im not sure about influences but Beck goes really well with Basehead and his producers record that was okay (some good single material).

Nardwaur: Beck why should people care about you and not your haircut?
Beck: Fuck off (hangs up)
One of the reasons I heart E more then Beck.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Julio: I suppose that what he brings of himself to it would be the wonderfully fucked-up lyrics and the Pop Art sensibility, tho I'll admit that both of those aren't that original in the first place. Oh, and his voice (Johnny Cash once remarked that it has that "old mountain feel")

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Beck goes really well with Basehead

Funny you should say that...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

"There are many reasons not to be impressed by Beck."

Well, you lost me right there.

Nate Patrin, Sunday, 22 September 2002 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever floats your boat. I was feeling particularly snarky that day, I seem to remember -- my comment at the start of the thread here really still says it all about him.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
>>And as for Ben Williams, Beck is not even a Scientologist. If your going to make a lame judgement at least get your story straight.


Actually, Beck has expressed an interest in scientology lately.<<

Actually, no he hasn't. And he's been more honest about his relationship to Scientology than any one of the 95,000 asinine gossip threads I've read about this.


philo t. vance, Friday, 18 October 2002 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
He's pretty good. His last album was bad, very dull, I think, though I only heard about half of it one time. The "lost cause" song was bad, anyway. Why do people always try to say beck is ironic? What has he ever done, ever, in his life that is even remotely ironic? Name one thing. You can't!

Applepie Baseball, Friday, 19 December 2003 07:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I dislike Beck. Dud, diddy, dud, dud-dud, dud.

Wasn't that bit on Odelay?

I don't believe a thing that comes out of his mouth. His music seems to originate in his pinky finger and his big toe. Then he has the nerve to make an ernest, dark album. And we're supposed to dig it?

Cotton candy with hipster flavoring. Irony to the point of nothingness.

Debito (Debito), Friday, 19 December 2003 08:05 (sixteen years ago) link

the simple problem is that he seems to have a list of styles and from alb to alb he ticks them off. he doesn't seem to bring anything of his own. at no time I think this is Beck, it's just an endless Borg like assimilation of styles.

Sorry, wrong. That is Beck. You can say the same thing about the first three Beatles albums, although the comparison ends there.

Who has Beck influenced?

Well, me for one. And Radiohead and everyone who has heard his stuff and realizes that there are no boundries to music and that adding a good melody to the sound of breaking glass is a good thing.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Friday, 19 December 2003 08:29 (sixteen years ago) link

the "Mutations" promo with him being interviewed by the robot is classic tho

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:03 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX54mI6c1JA

the way this is packaged reminds me of what Cornelius was doing 10 years ago

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:41 (two years ago) link

I think Harry Partch was his apex

calstars, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 21:51 (two years ago) link

this guy seems lost

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 21:56 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I haven't heard Colors yet, but it's been getting pretty meh reviews and, obviously, next to no discussion here.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, 19 October 2017 03:20 (two years ago) link

dunno felt like up all night was that moment where beck finally channeled new radicals

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 19 October 2017 03:28 (two years ago) link

Oh god. That sounds. . . awful.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, 19 October 2017 04:28 (two years ago) link

I listened to it once. I think it might be his worst record. To me it’s the first time he sounded like he was chasing someone else’s trend.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:10 (two years ago) link

I listened to it once. I think it might be his worst record. To me it’s the first time he sounded like he was chasing someone else’s trend.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:10 (two years ago) link

Too bad the catchiest song is a Police pastiche (No Distraction).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:33 (two years ago) link

feel like i may as well listen to Maroon Five as this new stuff

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:00 (two years ago) link

its like shitty earbud selling music

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:01 (two years ago) link

I haven't heard Colors yet, but it's been getting pretty meh reviews and, obviously, next to no discussion here.

― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, October 18, 2017

Has it? Most of the critics on my FB wall are enthusiastic about it: best since Guero, etc.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:01 (two years ago) link

(I don't care other than the first track)

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:02 (two years ago) link

Best since Guero is the new Best since Up.

Eazy, Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:07 (two years ago) link

Guero >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Up

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:08 (two years ago) link

None of his albums since Midnite Vultures are worth more than a courtesy listen tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:10 (two years ago) link

hey sea change isn't bad

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:12 (two years ago) link

Cosign imago

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:19 (two years ago) link

guero is great

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:22 (two years ago) link

hey sea change isn't bad

Not bad, no, but every artist he was riffing on did it better first and with a lot less fuss.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:24 (two years ago) link

Mutations is way better than Sea Change

Guero is where i jump off. it sounds like someone bored in a LA studio throwing stuff at the wall

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:26 (two years ago) link

Mutations is way better than Sea Change

Yup, somehow conjures a melancholic atmosphere much more affectingly and convincingly than Sea Change does even though the lyrics are more of the same stream-of-consciousness gibberish as all the other early albums

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:48 (two years ago) link

Mutations is way better than Sea Change

Yep. When Sea Change was released and was a crashing bore I had to remind myself that Beck had already done "slow" without sacrificing wit or rhythm.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:51 (two years ago) link

about half of sea change is very good and the other half is beck playing four chords as slowly as possible hoping hat a song emerges

“little one” is one of my fav beck songs ever still

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:00 (two years ago) link

The sea change tour was weird too. Flaming lips opened and were their joyous selves, almost as if to make becks set even more of a bummer. The lips as his backing band didn't save the sea change material from feeling like a slog, beck seemed to not want to play to the crowd in his usual way; instead braying like a wounded soldier.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:35 (two years ago) link

Sea Change is where I gave up, I find it unlistenable

I do like some stuff on Guero, that's about it for the last 15+ years

sleeve, Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:36 (two years ago) link

Really nice boards of canada remix of broken drum on guero lito

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:39 (two years ago) link

I'm not a massive Beck fan but I've always had time to check him out. As far as post-MV stuff goes, I like boring Beck - Sea Change and Morning Phase are both great. I liked Guero a lot too. I was a little meh on Information and Modern Guilt, but at least I could still see "Beck" in those albums. This new one... literally anyone could be doing these songs. Feels like mere coincidence that it's Beck on vocals.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:42 (two years ago) link

Lips backing band seemed like a great idea that failed. suppose outside of Steven they aren't good enough musicians to play that material. they were trying to do his funky and Odelay stuff and it was pretty bad imo. you look at his Midnight Vulture tours and he had this awesome band of pros playing funk jams every night, now it was these stoner junkies who were used to playing along to their own backing tracks.

Sea Change is alright but i never go back to listen to it. and from time to time he still does interesting stuff (Modern Guilt is a later record i am sort of warming to).

the new stuff though, nah.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:45 (two years ago) link

Sea Changes has some nice James Gadson drumming.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:47 (two years ago) link

Yeah Adam that sums up the sea change tour well. Midnite Vultures show was amazing

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:53 (two years ago) link

feel like i may as well listen to Maroon Five as this new stuff

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:00 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its like shitty earbud selling music

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:01 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually listened to this once and suddenly it occurred to me that Beck might have been doing the Paul Westerberg thing all along and writing songs for pop/indie acts under another publishing company, he's pro enough to do it at this point

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:49 (two years ago) link

I think the most recent thing of his I really enjoyed was the Oar cover record (helps that I don't even like the original probably lol)

after that it's snoozeville

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:53 (two years ago) link

MG v MV v MG v MP would be fun except it's really just MG v MV

MG v M v MV

\o/

Currently (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:00 (two years ago) link

and we all know which MG drops out and which one stays

Currently (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:00 (two years ago) link

obviously Mutations is better than Sea Change because it's his best album

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:03 (two years ago) link

MV b sides are even killer it could have been an amazing double album

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:03 (two years ago) link

2 PM LAZER BIZAGINAL REJUVINATION

calstars, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:14 (two years ago) link

"best since Guero" caught my attention so I decided to try this after being super, super underwhelmed by Modern Guilt

I've only heard "Colors" so far but that song is great

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:22 (two years ago) link

I'm on track 2 and so far this is like a super happy Gotye album.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:26 (two years ago) link

Actually I guess it's Gotye filtered through Weezer.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:31 (two years ago) link

Officially not interested in this whatsoever anymore.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:56 (two years ago) link

I loved his pre-Morning Phase stand-alone singles so I’m curious to hear whether he’s going back to that sound

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 21 October 2017 09:27 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

B should be the next colonel sanders

calstars, Sunday, 22 April 2018 01:28 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Giving Colors another spin
Better this time around
“Square one” is pretty good
Even if it sounds nothing like old fun beck

calstars, Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:17 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://i2.wp.com/liveforlivemusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/beck-hyperspace-fbcover.jpg?resize=740%2C390&ssl=1

Hyperspace is the upcoming fourteenth studio album by Beck. It is scheduled to be released through Capitol Records on November 22, 2019. The album was co-produced by Beck with Pharrell Williams.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 00:09 (eight months ago) link

i was going to do a new thread but was not impressed with Colors. so just bumped a thread instead. glad we got the Beck poll done this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AF_CJhpTzQ

Bee OK, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 00:11 (eight months ago) link

I guess if he did a funky synthwave outrun style album like the cover suggests that would be one thing but I’m not expecting anything remotely interesting

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 18:05 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

“Slacking off is nil”

calstars, Friday, 26 June 2020 21:07 (two weeks ago) link


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