Sky Sunlight Saxon is a musical genius whose greatness has been ignored for far too long on this board and elsewhere (RIP June 2009)

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There, I said it. Anyone agree?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 May 2003 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

of course. i agree totally. i love the seeds, i love how its all bass and treble and nothing in between, like 92 era uk breakbeat hardcore. the seeds also sound like a scooby doo house band. what more could you want?

the house crew, Saturday, 31 May 2003 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a strong dislike of the word genius. But yeah, the Seeds were certainly something. Would be classic for "Up in Her Room" alone. The Flower Punk box is pretty essential. Saxon's voice, those maniacal keyboards burrowing into your head ... it all made for a very trippy experience. I've always been too scared to touch the solo stuff. Is any of it worth checking?

Hey roger, have you heard the new Neil Hagerty lp? SHould I go see him tomorrow?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 31 May 2003 00:43 (eighteen years ago) link

purple electricity to thread. the jokes on you sky.

jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 31 May 2003 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

solo stuff incredible - Purple Electricity is INZANE and Heavenly Erath (recorded on the day of my birth) is also a favorite

as for the 'Hag, I just interviewed him for Your Flesh...the new record RULES. Equal parts Thank you / Accelerator plus some way out dub, Black Mass style synth, and live tracks. It's his first very 'complete' solo record, and live, if Dan Brown and Tim Barnes are backing him, you'd be a fool to miss it.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 31 May 2003 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll second roger on the new hag lp -- fantastic, folding back together the RTX and his last two solo albums.

jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 31 May 2003 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link

well fuck me! I guess I will have to check out some of the solo material after all. Also, it looks like I'll be at that Hagerty show. god I love that guy.

OK, I gotta cut and paste one of my favorite ever posts on ILM, from the Simon Reynolds is a gobshite thread:

who the fuck is this limey simon reynolds anyway? never has he spoke of sam the sham or kiss, as far as I can tell. never has he wrestled with another human being in the dirt. never has he listened to both Dust albums. never has he said ONE THING THAT IS FUNNY. he is a jerk, like most limey critics. every CREEM writer worth his salt knows that music writers from ENGLAND ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST.... and they are the very reason we have all had to endure the likes of Oasis and Radiohead and, heaven help us, RAVES!! Simon Reynolds is nothing, I mean nothing: think of this--once i interviewed Sky Saxon who was undergoing a blood transfusion in Hawaii and he was so feeble he could barely talk on the phone and he talked about how shriveled his cock was and how he hoped one day that shriveled cock would become hard again so that he could once again perform "Mr. Farmer" with the fervor in which it was intended: well, Mr. Simon Reynolds IS NOT EVEN WORTH THAT SHRIVELED COCK OF SKY SAXON...

-- Robot A. Hull (xavie...), May 22nd, 2001.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 31 May 2003 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Smash Mouth's "Diggin' Your Scene" completely lifts the riff from the Seeds' "Tripmaker". It's a carbon copy. Well, except they don't copy the Seeds' use of the slide whistle (which the Seeds just got from Dylan anyway), and of course the brief use of a "speak & spell" vocal is all their own. I always wondered why I kind of liked Smash Mouth.

Also, "No Escape" is a killer song. Same song as "Pushin' Too Hard" but I think I like it better due to the more chant-like chorus and the fucked-up keyboard break which is six bars of the same notes. Haha, man the Seeds were wonderful.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 07:25 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Sorry if this feels like piling on, but come on. Reynolds in Rip It Up: "The Fall tranced out to the primal monotony of Can, the methedrine scorched white noise of the Velvet Underground, and sixties 'punkadelic' bands like the Seeds (who had one keyboard riff, which they endlessly recycled)." Try listening to the records plz.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 14 May 2006 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Jesus, I didnt' know Robot A. Hull once posted here! (At least once, anyway.)

I remember Sky Saxon circa 1985 claiming that the reason Michael Jackson was so popular was because his name rhymed with "Saxon"!

Seek: The live (or "live") version of "Up In Her Room" (a poor man's "Sister Ray".)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 14 May 2006 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree with whoever made the 2nd post in this thread

the only band anything like the seeds, is Cosmic Michael. just as great, in a slightly different way

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 14 May 2006 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

the seeds = fuck music

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i still consider that Robot A. Hull post one of the very best ever on this board. Surprised you hadn't seen that, Tim and Myonga!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't he play on some of the YaHoWa 13 records? (which I still haven't heard dammit)

Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, but I think it was stuff that only came out in the box as opposed to actual albums proper.

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Lama review # 49 is of the Lovers Cosmic Voyage LP:

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 15 May 2006 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link

The Seeds made classic records. Sky did a UK tour a year or two back with a great band, and remains a hypnotically intense performer:"This song is about the fools on Capitol Hill. It's called . . 'Fools on Capitol Hill'" What a guy!

Soukesian, Monday, 15 May 2006 06:00 (sixteen years ago) link

where is the LOBE for FIRE, WATER, AIR - GOLDEN SUNRISE? seriously, one of the few ya ho wha/sunlight things that really gets you there.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 15 May 2006 06:07 (sixteen years ago) link

(which was actually released prior to the box set as an 8-track!)

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 15 May 2006 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...


matt h. (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

R.I.P. Sky Saxon
By Joe Gross | Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:18 AM
Sky Saxon, founder of the brilliant ’60s garage band the Seeds, died Thursday morning at St. David’s Hospital.

The newly minted Austinite was hospitalized Monday with what doctors suspected was an infection of the internal organs, but cause of death has not yet been released.

Saxon fell ill last Thursday, but performed at Saturday at Antone’s.

Sky’s wife Sabrina Saxon posted news of his passing on Facebook this morning: “Sky has passed over and YaHoWha is waiting for him at the gate. He will soon be home with his Father. I’m so sorry I couldn’t keep him here with us. More later. I’m sorry.”

We are sorry as well.

matt h. (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

What? No way. Don't do this to me...

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

OK time to play some Seeds albums.

RIP you crazy genius

sleeve, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Who's left now???!?? Roky and Beefheart, once they're gone what will we do then? RIP Sky.

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

He's up there in Dog Heaven.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:47 (twelve years ago) link


kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

:( RIP

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

Ah fuck, will good dudes stop dying all over the shop? RIP.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

no seeds on my ipod, best i can do is the nuggets II boxset and high tide

matt h. (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:37 (twelve years ago) link


Enemy Insects (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

RIP. So glad I got the chance to see him.

Soukesian, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:47 (twelve years ago) link


YOULL BE BAND FROM THE WEB FOR BEING OLD BITCHES!!!! (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

On another board, someone posted a link to the Seeds appearance in PSYCH OUT:

I'd seen the movie, but I'd forgotten what the sequence they appear in was about. The quality is awful, but I found it sharply poignant to see this tonight.

Soukesian, Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

RIP I'll miss you more than either MJ or Farrah Fawcett

And the biggest self of self is, indeed, self (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 June 2009 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

RIP Sky.

ian, Thursday, 25 June 2009 22:42 (twelve years ago) link


Anyone have the "alternate" version of "The Wind Blows Your Hair"??

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 25 June 2009 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

RIP I'll miss you more than either MJ or Farrah Fawcett


Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

I'm gonna find out about this guy and his music

the funk soul custos (country matters), Friday, 26 June 2009 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

Met him after a show a few years ago. The guy was an absolute star. Would say RIP but for once I want there to be some sort of mystical space-cake shit for him to go hang out in.

emil.y, Friday, 26 June 2009 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

I remember Sky Saxon circa 1985 claiming that the reason Michael Jackson was so popular was because his name rhymed with "Saxon"!

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, May 14, 2006


RIP (to both of those doodz)

RIP I'll miss you more than either MJ or Farrah Fawcett


Zeno, Friday, 26 June 2009 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

RIP - dude still had it.

My vagina has a dress code. (milo z), Friday, 26 June 2009 03:38 (twelve years ago) link


totally recommend everyone check out the version of "starry ride" on the yahowa box set, i think on the "related singles" disc. i wish i was more familiar with his post-seeds stuff, but the seeds RULED.

next stop: NOWHERE, i wanna get off (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 26 June 2009 03:46 (twelve years ago) link

I remember Sky Saxon circa 1985 claiming that the reason Michael Jackson was so popular was because his name rhymed with "Saxon"!
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, May 14, 2006


Alex in NYC, Friday, 26 June 2009 03:53 (twelve years ago) link

Aww man. He was gonna tour this summer too.

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 June 2009 04:22 (twelve years ago) link

nobody like him.


Stormy Davis, Friday, 26 June 2009 06:38 (twelve years ago) link

Oh Jesus. RIP, RIP, RIP... now the wind will blow your hair in some kind of psychedelic heaven.

Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Friday, 26 June 2009 09:02 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to "The Seeds" album now, having only heard "Can't Seem to Make You Mine" and "Pushing Too Hard" before. It's all great. RIP.

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Friday, 26 June 2009 10:03 (twelve years ago) link

try "web of sound". it's better.

Zeno, Friday, 26 June 2009 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit is everyone dying today? :( RIP

Roz, Friday, 26 June 2009 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Blasting "Raw & Alive", an old favorite. Love the way the audience screams become part of the music. (I was always told they were dubbed on anyway!) "The Gypsy Plays His Drums" is incredible.

Soukesian, Friday, 26 June 2009 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

From a recent Billy Corgan newsletter sent out to fans:

"So I'll get to my point. This website is going to change. It is going to transform into something that is consistent with the concepts of love, grace, and community. We are not looking backwards anymore, only forward. I for one am willing to stand for something good here, in this little corner of the blogosphere, and say it's time.

What makes the things I'm saying here even more real to me is the passing of my dear friend Sky Sunlight Saxon. Sky lived everyday with the concept of LOVE as his guide, and he walked the talk. He was a spiritual warrior who would tell me that Yahowa knew the beauty of our hearts, and that musicians were the living prophets of the world. So in Sky's memory I am going to re-dedicate this website to represent the things he cared about most; love, life, music, his spiritual family, and the protection of all God's creatures, big and small."

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 June 2009 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

I love you too Billy. Now shut up and stop sucking.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Hahaha, pretty much my exact thoughts.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 June 2009 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

God Bless 'em - 'The Bottomless Pit' (band made up former Silkworm - they know loss, huh?, Seam, .22 members) covered 'A Faded Picture' at Schubas last night in Chicago. I hadn't heard that Saxon had died - very sad - pulling out 'Web of Sound' today....

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 29 June 2009 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

Does Corgan just drop names that sound cool, or.....

The Seeds were all I listened to for about two and a half years. I don't know what got into me.
Future is my favorite. Painted Doll is just nutso.

I know nothing of Saxon's other work, however, is it nothing but a bunch of collecto-crap?

I DIED (u s steel), Monday, 29 June 2009 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

is "pushin too hard" an interpretation of sorts of nina simone's "sinnerman"?

(jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 03:10 (twelve years ago) link

also, brazilian cover of PTH by wanderléa

(jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 03:10 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I love you too Billy. Now shut up and stop sucking.

I gotta admit, he heeded my words. Took a lot of photos at the tribute show last night but search for all the inevitable YouTubes that must be up now for the various performances -- Billy's contributions included a great three-song set fronting the ad hoc Spirits of the Sky near the start (and yes, they did the song they're named after), a good solo guitar turn with the Electric Prunes, playing bass with Sky Aquarian in a YaHoWa33 set and doing "Can't Seem To Make You Mine" during the concluding Seeds set.

And it was a great, great set -- what the configuration of Seeds players were during the end (and it kept rotating a bit), they were kicking some *major* ass, I kept thinking that Mudhoney would kill to be seeing it and figured that the one person missing from the various guests who would have loved to have been there was Lux Interior, just because I could see him going crazy with some of the songs as well as acting appropriately lewdly with the go-go dancers.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

Yeah. What Roger said.

Heck, I even like Future by the Seeds. A lot. The Seeds jamming with the addition of tubas & things like that is so transcendentally WRONG that it becomes Too RIGHT.

Sky's LPs from after the Seeds are uneven, but all are interesting & worth a listen. Firewall is particularly good. The one with Purple Electricity (basically Redd Kross) is also cool. I guess the only thing he's done that I didn't care for was A Spoonful of Seedy Blues.

ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

Check this out, Sky Saxon in his last days:

DDD, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 14:03 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

It's happening

DDD, Monday, 11 August 2014 10:20 (seven years ago) link

excellent news !

mark e, Monday, 11 August 2014 11:20 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

After nearly a decade...


...the Seeds documentary can finally be streamed on Vimeo

DDD, Friday, 13 May 2022 17:32 (one week ago) link

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