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Caetano has one of my favourite voices of all time and has made many intriguing records. He has also made a lot of dross. Help me to sort it out please.

Daniel, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't have any Destroy suggestions, but absolutely Search for A Arte de Caetano Veloso (Polygram Brasil), a two-record/one-CD comp covering 1967-74 or so that's totally flawless. Singles (Polygram Japan) is nice but hardly perfect. And Estrangerio is a pretty damn solid album from the '90s.

M. Matos, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

He has a bunch of eponymous albums, all different (1967, 1969, 1971 and maybe one or two from a later period). Those from the late sixties and early seventies are all excellent. I have his new one, Noites do Norte, and maybe a few other more recent, and they're merely okay in my book. All of the early stuff *was* available, but Dustygroove doesn't have all that much right now. You may be able to get them as imports.

Kerry Keane, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

search: he also produced the two Virginia Rodrigues albums (Sol Negro, 1997 and Nos, 2000) which are fantastic in a strange ancient/modern spiritual way

m jemmeson, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't know about Veloso but agree Virginia rodriguez definitely worth seeking out.

Billy Dods, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm kind of a fan of his 70's work--esp. the one he made in exile in England with--Gilberto Gil? I think. That's a great one. Also, for the newer stuff--Livro is gorgeous. It's also a musical companion for his autobiography of sorts, as I recall. The last one (Norte) is a bit of a weird, uncomfortable hybrid for me.

If you like Caetano, you may want to check out his son--granted, it doesn't quite have the depth, but it's definitely intriguing. And if you like the Norte album, you may like Arto Lindsay. He's part of the no-wavers and did a lot of skronking in downtown NYC in the early Eighties with Ambitious Lovers and DNA, but the last three albums he's made (two for Bar-none, one for Righteous Babe) have been bossa electronic records which are quite amazing. Especially the two earlier ones, Noon Chill and Mondo Civilizado--a great blend of traditional with some Bahia influences and kinky electronica. He does some of the translation for Veloso's last record.

Another couple of people that may intrigue you are Vinicius Cantuaria, Veloso's ex-guitarist, who is quite a songwriter in his own right, and Tom Ze, another exponent of the Tropicalia movement which Veloso is a part of. As always, Os Mutantes is a great band to start with, as it contains the genesis of the weird hybrid Brasilian music that we hear now.

Mickey Black Eyes, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Splendid! Yeah, what I've heard from the early seventies - the really wiggy bits - really wild. Kerry, that eponymous album he did in English is certainly great. I'll have a look for the others you mention.

Thanks for the tip, Michaelangelo, about Estrangeiro. I tend to avoid the compilations, though.

And thanks to Mickey Black Eyes - can I call you Mickey? - for recommending Livro.

Mickey mentioned Mutantes. They're being heavily namedropped at the mo. If you like that, then you have to try Secos e Molhados, a gently psychedelic band from a similar period (not sure exactly). Their singer, Ney Matogrosso, has a spectacular voice.

Arto Lindsay is indeed marvellous. I particularly like Prize, but that's more a question of circumstance than any great critical commentary.

Vinicius Cantuaria - thanks I'll have a look for his solo work.

Back to the Caetano question, did he do anything work seeking out in the sparkly spangly eighties? (those sleeves... I've never been brave enough)

Hey, this message board's good isn't it?

Daniel, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

We try...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and another thing. Can you get the autobiography here in England, do you know?

Daniel, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if it was autobiography or a retrospective on tv or what- -it's been a while. I think that there is a book of his coming out this fall--take a look on Amazon.com or another bookseller and that may be able to help you. Oh, and some of his more critically acclaimed work are: Muito, Bicho, Circuladô, Tropicália I and II, and a couple of others, Estrangeiro, I think someone has already mentioned. And as a caveat, most of my friends from Sao Paolo actually strongly dislike Livro, so it might be something for people who haven't grown up with the rest of his discography.

And I'm assuming that you're already familiar with Gilberto Gil and Milton Nascimento, not to mention Astrud and Joao Gilberto. Have you heard Bebel Gilberto's album? It's quite interesting as well-- production by Suba, Amon Tobin, Fila Brasilia, and Thievery Corporation. I'm kind of out of the loop as far as trends go, but I know there's a huge underground swell of Brasilian-influenced electronica--Nicola Conte, Tobin, Thievery, Fantastic Plastic Machine, Da Lata, et al... while it's certainly not traditional songcraft, some of their work is very cool. Reflecting some of that futurist instinct of much Brasilian work.

Mickey Black Eyes, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Gil is alright. Fluffy and fun. Milton Nascimento is utterly fantastic in his better moments, such as Clube da Esquina 2 and Travessia. Tom Ze, whom you mentioned before, is great, although it's starting to get a bit samey. I was shocked to discover that Defeito de Fabricacao is actually remakes of 70s stuff. New Brazilian electronica seems really exciting. I know very little, apart from Da Lata, who are are walking that fine line between sumptuously smooth and rather bland. Thanks for the tips, anyway. Tell us more about what you call 'that futurist instinct.'

Cheers

Daniel, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Fabrication Defect songs are remakes? 'Cos I have a *ton* of Tom Ze's seventies stuff and I don't recognize the songs.

While we're on the subject of Tropicalia, I have to recommend Nara Leao's self-titled album from the late sixties, which, among other things, has some really beautiful Veloso songs on it, written with the poet Torquato Neto. Right now there are a lot of Japanese reissues of this stuff in circulation.

Kerry Keane, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Nobody seems to have mentioned the 'Domingo' album by Gal E Caetano Velloso (Philips PHCA-4203), so I will. It's recently been reissued here in Japan. Smooth as a kitten dipped in cognac!

Momus, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hah! I was going to mention Domingo, but I didn't know if people would sneer at it as non-Tropicalia, so I left it off, 'cos I'm a weenie. It's kind of a mellow bossa nova disc. I like the "Que Pena" duet quite a bit.

Kerry Keane, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

To me, Brasil and Japan have this sort of interesting aesthetic take on all music that filters through the medium, sort of makes it clean and forward-looking, in a way that makes the music really sort of different than the American/Brit counterparts. In a way, it's less gritty, but in a way, removed of all its implications, it's at once a tad nihilistic, futuristic, and optimistic. (Yeah, yeah, I know. What the fuck.) And I don't mean just Brasilians and the Japanese, but many musicians who come to adopt their respective vernacular.

Take a look at Brasilia! It's this very chic, ultra-contextless and yet historically relevant thing. Very hard to explain, but it's kind of the same way electronica is designed to be ironic and yet free of constraints--always future.

I suppose that could be a formalist construct, but I'm not sure how relevant it is to helping you decide what music to get. Not to turn this thread into a discussion of J-pop... but people like Shiina Ringo and Chara, all the way downtown to Kahimi Karie or Takako Minekawa, Cornelius, et al of the "Shibuya" sound. And all of their friends, and their friends' friends. Very much this arch, hip thing that is very Brasil too. Especially the Brasil that Westerners have stereotyped--take the album covers by Thievery Corporation and its downtempo brethren etc, it's all very cool and yet ironic, so that it's removed from ridicule.

Phew, now that I've managed to make this even more confusing, I'm going to stop. :)

In a way, our (this generation's) legacy might be much more attuned to collage works--the conflagration of different styles, melting attitudes. Hopefully our cultural references won't be ridiculed in a couple of decades, but who knows? Maybe we'll be hip again because we're so cheesy for trying to be so hip (about cheesy stuff.) I have faith, though, that some sincerity and longevity will come out of this, and not as a result of quoting and Rauschenbergin'.

p.s. I'm burning a couple of cds of Brasil/influenced songs for a DJ friend of mine--and it occurred to me to add some names of electronic and other artists that might be fun for you to check out.

old school: Marcos Valle, Baden Powell, Bola Sete, Vinicius DeMoraes, Gato Barbieri, Airto Moreira new school: Nicola Conte, Truby Trio, Suba, Smoke City, Da Lata, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Marisa Monte, Carlinhos Brown, Soulstance

Mickey Black Eyes, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgot about a really great one: Tropicalia 2, a duo album with Gilberto Gil, from the early '90s--loose, funky, gorgeous (great cover of Hendrix's "Wait Until Tomorrow"--on two acoustics!--as well). And hey, as long as I've got your ear, the 1975 album Gil e Jorge, a duo record with Gilberto and Jorge Ben, is mind- bendingly great.

And Daniel, you really shouldn't avoid A Arte de just because it's a compilation--it's one of the most perfect records ever made.

M. Matos, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Domingo is indeed cognac-kitten sweet!

Daniel, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Mickey's comparison of Japanese and Brazilian styles is very interesting. Brazil gets away with so much cheesiness not because it's irony, but because Brazilians are apparently quite comfortable with what seems to us (in England at least) like sentimentality or trashiness. Carnaval, that high-camp, ultra-exuberant celebration of ooh everything, is a prime example. Brazilian singers, such as Clara Nunes, manage to infuse apparently naff lyrics and sugary production with incredible pathos and freshness. It's so effortless. Which brings me back to the Japan thing. Things come across as both naive and knowing and the same time.

A lot more to say, but it's time I went to work and did some mundane crap.

Daniel, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, I think fundamentally, other cultures don't have the same hang- ups about trashiness or over-emoting that Westerners do. Hence the super-over-the-top moments in "foreign" cinema that are so confusing-- you're watching something gorgeous, super-sophisticated, and next thing you know, they're layering on the supersacchrine strings and the actor starts chewing the scenery, all in the same 5 minutes. There's no "cliche" bell that goes off. I think that's why so much of Jafar Panahi or Wong Kar Wai or Fellini or whatever seems so cool to us, utterly beguiling. So you right, they are far more comfortable with crossing that over-the-top boundary--at the same time, from our frame of reference, it is super-arch. All I know is that it's lovely.

Speaking of lovely, I am swooning over the new Finley Quaye. It's definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but every once in a blue moon, when it's on, it's ON! Damn!

Mickey Black Eyes, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Kerry, I bought a two-LP CD recently - Se o Caso e Chorar (1972) with Todos os Olhos (1973). I recognised loads of songs from Defeito and was shocked!!

Michaelangelo - maybe I shouldn't be snobbish about compilations such as a arte de, but I got exasperated in Brazil with record shops thinking that back catalogue meant putting loads of compilations on the shelves.

Interesting that you put Sakamoto on your Brazilian compilation?!!?

Mickey - thanks for all your recommendations and comments. Brasilia - bloody mad place and frankly not very likeable, but i know where you're coming from. I follow what you say about futurism/optimism, but so much Brazilian music is drenched in melancholia. They don't seem to care about people seeing their dirty washing!

Daniel, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
I`m the greatest fan of Caetano Veloso of all time. I saw more than 15 shows and I have all the records he made (about 40). No one mentioned CORES E NOMES. It`s the best.

Carlos Lopes, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

can anyone help me identify this and hopefully tell me which album its on? i think the song might be called irene or ileni or ireni or something like that, anyway a girls name im pretty sure. it has a section in the middle where only the guitar is left and the tape speeds up to a high pitch for a few seconds before slowing back to normal speed. ringing any bells??

Ron, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oi Carlos! Thanks for the recommendation - I'll look out for Cores e Nomes. As for Irene, I have a version by Elis Regina on a soap-opera soundtrack album called Veu de Noiva. But I understand the original is on his white album (self-titled with a white sleeve) from 1969. It sounds from your description Ron that I need to seek out this track!

Daniel, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

sideline: Caetano Veloso's short concert performance is easily the best thing in the new Pedro Almodovar film 'Hable con ella' - worth going to see for that alone.

I had 'Tropicalia 2' but I sold it fairly quickly - it sounded a bit clean to me.

Does he do his own whistling? Because the whistling is fantastic on 'o Leonzinho' or whatever it's called.

Sister Disco, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

so far my fave Caetano Veloso tracks are:
"Odara" off Bicho 1977
"Trilhos Urbanos" from Cinema Transcendental 1979
& "Queixa" on, voila!, Cores, Nomes 1982

Japanese Import Singles is certainly worth buying,
even for the Festival riot recording alone - you will not believe it!
(what is this avantgarde music concret 60's shit? oh I get it... this is... the... riot...)
but were those Nomes garden-variety or the kind that walk the forests?

Paul, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Not sure about his whistling - presumably it's his, he certainly has a fine selection of weird noises to his name. Take his version of Asa Branca on the London album, for example. Thanks for your recommendations, Paul. I've heard that Cinema tran... is one of his best.

daniel, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Has anyone seen or bought the Todo Caetano box set?

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/veloso_caet_todocaeta_101b.jpg

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 3 February 2003 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Amateurist is the King of Box Sets.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 3 February 2003 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, that looks absolutely delectable.

christoff (christoff), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't own it. But if everyone on this thread gives me $20 I can go buy it and report back.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Has no one mentioned Uns? I love that record.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...
"A lot more to say, but it's time I went to work and did some mundane crap. "

Um, I know it's been a few years, but Daniel are you done with the mundane crap yet? I find your's and Mickey Black Eyes' comments about the Brasil and Japan parellels really interesting, and I think France could also be added to these comparisons.

(I think i may have just made some connections about one of the reasons I like foreign or really cheesy styles so much)

I second Sister Disco's sideline.

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 6 October 2003 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The answer to Ron's question above is that the song is called "Irene," it's off Caetano's second self-titled LP, the one with the white cover and only his signature on the front.

hstencil, Monday, 6 October 2003 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Gaahh!!!! I LOOOVE Caetano. I actually considered reviving this woefully short thread a couple weeks ago...

Anyway, yeah I just recently purchased Bicho and Joia, and I quite frankly cannot believe how great they are!!!!!

Joia in particular is a fascinating record; a cycle of miniatures which are all really affecting and impeccably arranged. I've always been a fan of Caetano but it may very well be my discovery of this record which catapulted him into genius status. He has an amazing ear for pure sound - knows the way fundamentally simple instrumentation can create perfectly rich sound worlds. He knows what he's doing.

Bicho is totally cool! It's Caetano going funk and it's extremely great! I saw him live last year and He performed "Gente" from Bicho! It was great; he fuckin' rules!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 6 October 2003 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Did anyone ever get the box set? I want the box set, man.

"Gente" is a GREAT song

Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 6 October 2003 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay, this is my list of albums I need to get:

Caetano Veloso - Livro, Domingo, Cores Nomes, Joia, Eu Nao Peco Desculpa
( I've already got a few self-titled ones and cinema trans)

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 6 October 2003 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

cores nomes is
the forgotten caetano
but it's so SUBLIME

I stand by my call
that livro is the ninth best
album ever made

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Hi A Nairn. Since I wrote that two years ago (have I been 'doing' ILM for that long?), I've had a few haircuts, had a couple of bouts of flu and, yes, finished off the mundane crap I started that day.

I've also acquired Livro and Joia. The revival of this thread has been great as I have omitted to seek out Cores e Nomes, but shall rectify that asap. I agree with your call, A Nairn, about French music being added to the list. The chanson was the first sentimental music I ever admitted to liking and it works by dint of its being French.

It's funny to re-read Mickey's post on futurism above, after all this time. I wonder if his Blue Eyes had been blinded by Brasilia (Niemeyer and his sexy pavilion?). I'm not sure if the Japanese model quite applies to Brazil, but there is such freshness infused in the Brazilian aesthetic. Certainly not sure if the Thievery Corp is necessarily the answer to all our prayers.

Daniel (dancity), Monday, 6 October 2003 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
He's playing the barbican on 5th and 6th November. I went a bit mad and bought tickets. I'm going to feel like such a fool if he comes to Edinburgh.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey, any English speaking, non-Portuguese speaking people that like Veloso's early work might be interested in checking out the chapter on him (and the chapter on Gil, while you're at it) in Charles Perrone's book Masters of Contemporary Brazilian Song. Good analyses of the poetry in these songs.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 11 June 2004 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I ordered Caetano Veloso - The Definitive Collection (as well as The Definitive Gilberto Gil) a couple of weeks ago having arrived there via Os Mutantes, Tom Ze and The Best Of Tropicalia.

It hasn't been dispatcehd yet though - is this a good place to start?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Search Aruca Azul from 1973 - his most experimental album, and very good. Sort of reminds me of Faust if they were Brazilian.

dleone (dleone), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone heard the new one? It has a cover of, um, Come as You Are.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Got hold of Caetano Veloso - The Definitive Collection about three weeks ago, and have been playing it loads. Such a great voice.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

The new one, A Foreign Sound is great, with only minor missteps. His reading of Cole Porter's "Love For Sale" gives me shivers.

Kevin Erickson, Saturday, 12 June 2004 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
EVERYONE'S covering Come As You are now!

Anyway - HELP ME I CAN"T STOP LISTENING TO CAETANO VELOSO

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Saturday, 26 June 2004 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

hi

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 26 June 2004 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

wow bob wow

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Sunday, 27 June 2004 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the discs featured in that picture, "Transa," was a huge disappointment to me. I've found the slipcue.com site dead-on for the most part, and he thought this was a classic. To me it was unlistenable, from the songwriting to the dreadful production. Any CV fans tell me what exactly I'm missing?
http://www.slipcue.com/music/brazil/veloso.html

no opinion, Sunday, 27 June 2004 04:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Transa...an appropriate name, very hypnotic and repetitive..not unlike Tago Mago era Can. Nice and raw and warm sounding.

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Sunday, 27 June 2004 04:37 (sixteen years ago) link

About Todo Caetano — I don't have the box set itself, but I've purchased some individual discs from it on Ebay. The mini-LP style repackaging is nice; some of the discs are remixed/remastered in a way that is usually quite sumptuous but tends to remove the bite from the drums (maybe a compression issue?), especially on the first (1967) and second (1969) eponymous albums. The '67 album also has a couple of tracks out of order.

I would search Muitos Carnivas (jolly & festive), Muito (quiet and pacifying) and of course the great Tropicalia: Panis et Circensis. The compilation I have is Antologia 67/03, which has a lot of great music and non-chronilogical sequencing that doesn't make a whole lot of sense; not a bad sampler, anyway.

eatandoph, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow I didn't even know of the existence of Ce.

Daniel Giraffe, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:09 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Man, I really kinda hate Ce now. But Caetano continues being the most important solo artist in my life. Listening to Cavaleiro a lot recently. Pop legend, knows so much (and shows it) about Brazilian music. Also is so conscious as he plays with the male/female role with Brazilian numbers.

what U cry 4 (jim), Monday, 29 December 2008 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

His singing here blows me away:

Jazzbo, Monday, 29 December 2008 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 29 December 2008 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

New Caetano album basically like a more mellow cê, assume it's the same band, very similar sound.

Only a few tracks on it I really like, A Base De Guantanamo probably the highlight for me, really repetitive mantra like chorus.

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

Oh and it's called Zii e zie: transambas.

Bit more Brazilian sounding, less based on rock rhythms, but the same production and reliance on electric guitar + electric bass & drum kit.

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

New Caetano album basically like a more mellow cê, assume it's the same band, very similar sound.

that sounds amazing!

s1ocki, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

A friend played Bicho, Veloso's stab at a late seventies Boz Scaggs record, over and over after a few glasses of wine. Marvelous.

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 November 2009 05:58 (ten years ago) link

yeah owned 'Bicho' for about 10 years or more, never felt "Boz Scaggs" but whatevs

awesome record

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 7 November 2009 07:27 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

Have missed him live a number of times in W. DC, but am planning on seeing him Saturday night. "zii e zie" which does use the same musicians as Ce is only being released in the US now.

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 April 2010 14:53 (ten years ago) link

I really enjoyed the show. He and his young 3-piece band performed for 1 hour and 45 minutes. They did a mixture of old and new songs. The stage was set up with a big hangglider sitting behind the drummer backlit with soft yellow light. Behind that was a large screen--on some songs they showed black and white footage of the Brazilian coast and it was as if you were hangliding. Another song featured a Havana Cuba streetscape with all the old cars that are still there. For many songs the screen wasn't used. Veloso switched between using one of those circular hollow electric guitars and an acoustic one, or without a guitar. He danced and jumped about and did various theatrical gestures with his hand. He did his 1971 song about his sister Maria Bethania and a bossa/samba-style acoustic cover of Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" that ended with a verse about all the lonely people from "Eleanor Rigby." For many songs the band rocked, especially the drummer, like a postpunk meets Fugazi ensemble, except Veloso was singing samba-rock melodies overtop. They had strobe lights flashing on some of the songs. There were lots of 40 something and up Brazilians in the crowd who got more lively for the older material--especially the encores.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 April 2010 02:54 (ten years ago) link

I really wanted to go to this.

you can beat my box any time (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 11 April 2010 03:07 (ten years ago) link

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Caetano Veloso - US album release & tour dates (Terminal 5)

Brazilian guitar legend Caetano Veloso will comes to the US for six shows this April. The first will be at NYC's Terminal 5 on Thurday, April 8th. Tickets are on AmEx presale now. General sale starts Friday, February 19th at noon.

Caetano's 41st album, Zii e Zie, which came out internationally last year, and will get a US release on March 23rd through Nonesuch (the label that's putting out huge Caetano fan & collaborator David Byrne's new record with Fatboy Slim, Here Lies Love). The album already won the 2009 Latin Grammy for Best Singer-Songwriter Album. Tracks from Zii e Zie are streaming here. All tour dates, videos, and album info and art are below...

"Zii e Zie" tracklist
1 Perdeu (Lost)
2 Sem Cais (No Dock)
3 Por Quem? (For Whom?)
4 Lobão Tem Razão (Lobão Is Right)s
5 A Cor Amarela (The Color Yellow)
6 A Base de Guantánamo (Guantánamo Base)
7 Falso Leblon (False Leblon)
8 Incompatibilidade de Gênios (Incompatibility of Temperaments)
9 Tarado ni Você (Horny for You)
10 Menina da Ria (Girl from Ria)
11 Ingenuidade (Innocence)

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Caetano Veloso - Você é linda

Caetano Veloso - Sonhos

Caetano Veloso Billie Jean

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Caetano Veloso - 2010 Tour Dates
Mar 05 Buenos Aires - Argentina - Gran Rex
Mar 06 Buenos Aires - Argentina - Gran Rex
Mar 08 Assunção - Paraguai
Mar 10 Montevidéu - Uruguai - Estádio Centenário
Mar 13 Santigo - Chile - Teatro Caupolicán
Mar 15 Lima - Peru - Teatro San Augustín
Mar 19 Cidade do México - México - Auditório Nacional
Mar 22 Guadalajara - México - Teatro Diana
Apr 08 New York, NY - Terminal 5
Apr 10 Washington DC - Lisner Auditorim
Apr 12 Boston - Orpheum Theatre
Apr 15 Los Angeles - The Greek Theatre
Apr 17 San Francisco - Masonic
Apr 20 Miami - Fillmore at Jackie Gleason Theatre

curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:10 (ten years ago) link

Oops, cut aand pasted too much

curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:11 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hENmZ8PePNc&feature=related

curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:26 (ten years ago) link

I definately need to add more Veloso to my collection. That was a really enjoyable show last night

curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 April 2010 21:03 (ten years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/10/arts/music/10veloso.html Pareles review of the NY show. Sorry Boston, it seems tonight's Veloso show there may be cancelled.

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 April 2010 20:12 (ten years ago) link

I listened to Veloso's 1969 s/t album (the one with the white cover) again this morning. The middle section of this seems to slow down quite a bit, with the quasi-tango-ish acoustic numbers and the penultimate "Revolution 9" concrete-style track, but even those parts have been growing on me. The opening and closing tracks are obviously untouchable.

o. nate, Monday, 12 April 2010 20:32 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2011/04/20/brazilian-music-then-and-now#more

A live album from the Zii e Zie tour

curmudgeon, Monday, 9 May 2011 16:49 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzKQP2Kukp8

Just noticed by the video above Odeio sounds like a DFA joint.

not really into his band at the mo :/

Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:03 (nine years ago) link

I kinda like them.

curmudgeon, Monday, 9 May 2011 19:04 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

But I haven't gotten the import Zii e Zie tour
live cd or dvd I mentioned above

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 19:18 (nine years ago) link

I'm continually amazed by the 'A Arte de...' comp. What a great introduction.

sam500, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 01:39 (nine years ago) link

oh man "Sugarcane Fields Forever" is killing it

bentelec, Friday, 24 June 2011 06:45 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

A new album. I haven't heard it yet.

http://www.afropop.org/wp/17436/caetano-veloso-abracaco-2/

curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:05 (six years ago) link

Listened to half of it so far and I like that half. A mix of nice ballads and loud, guitar heavy numbers. The latter alternate between clangy post-punk playing and Nirvana-esque rawk.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 13:54 (six years ago) link

it's fun! for ppl upthread who are tired of his band, this is with the same band :(

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:00 (six years ago) link

Ha. New stuff is not gorgeous Brazilian old-school in feel, but it retains some of that in the melodies

curmudgeon, Friday, 11 April 2014 14:02 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

Caetano Veloso concludes the US leg of his Abracaco orld tour with the second of two consecutive nights at the BAM Howard Gilman Opera House tonight and an intimate public conversation about art, music, film, and more with director Peter Sellars Saturday evening at the BAM Fisher Hillman Studio.

Fron Nonesuch website. Bet the Saturday night conversation will be interesting

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 September 2014 21:11 (five years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/27/arts/music/caetano-veloso-and-his-band-perform-at-bam.html?ref=arts

Discussion of his band, plus Arto Lindsey joined him for the encores at this show at BAM in NYC

Here's an excerpt of Ben Ratliff's review:

Now 72, Mr. Veloso has been working with this group, Banda Cê, since 2006, through three records and multiple tours. Its members — Mr. Callado, the brilliant guitarist Pedro Sa and the bassist and keyboardist Ricardo Dias Gomes — are all musicians a generation younger. They counteract his eminence. The sound and arrangements of the new songs are small and immediate, skeletal and unsentimental, like a garage band in miniature.

Mr. Veloso seems to crave critical distance, and the band is a new way to help him attain it. With Banda Cê, raw but articulate, he has little risk of coming across as a glib cultural elder statesman. The songs push and soothe and sometimes grate, grounded in old or new sounds, such as the maracatu-like rhythm of “O Império da Lei,” (“The Rule of Law”), inspired by the murders of environmental activists in the Amazon; a kind of long-form, electric-folk minimalism in “Um Comunista,” about the Brazilian Marxist Carlos Marighella; and variations on bossa nova, his aesthetic resting pulse.

The two-hour set’s references to the past tended toward the complicated and contrarian, too, ambiguous exercises in attraction and withdrawal, irony and rebellion. There were “Baby,” from the late ’60s, and “Você Não Entende Nada” (“You Don’t Understand Anything”) and “De Noite Na Cama” (“By Night in Bed”), from the early ’70s. (During that last one, he unbuttoned his shirt all the way, let it hang open an inch or so, then almost immediately began buttoning it up again.)

The risk, perhaps, of leaning so heavily on ambiguity is that Mr. Veloso is undercutting himself, not allowing himself more access to the beauty of some of his old work; he’s not only a provocateur, but also the writer of more single-purpose songs of love, celebration and memory. But he is concentrating on the new, both for its material and for its double-edged sentiment.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:24 (five years ago) link

Was trying to find the Bicho album on Spotify last night without success. Maybe I typed it in wrong.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 September 2014 12:42 (five years ago) link

It's on Danish spotify, anyway. Cool album.

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:54 (five years ago) link

Listening to Bicho right now. I've always found it a bit underwhelming, too pretty for an afro-brazilian funk-album called Bicho, but wow, there are some hits on there! The stretch Two Naira Fifty Kobo - Gente - Olha O Menino is cool, and obviously the two final tracks - including Leaozinho, which I posted in the One Week thread last week - are incredible.

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:30 (five years ago) link

Listened to it on Youtube last night, as I still can't find it on US Spotify. Need to listen a few more times as I was doing other stuff while I had it on.

I wonder how that Veloso with theatre director Peter Sellars chat was the other night (mentioned upthread)?

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 September 2014 15:45 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_K9j3fb8Es
is the section of the Olympic ceremony from last night with Veloso, Gil and Anitta.
I missed it when it was live, was it the very first thing or the very last.

Stevolende, Saturday, 6 August 2016 08:54 (four years ago) link

Think it was towards the end.

The Rest Is A Cellarful of Noise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 August 2016 10:15 (four years ago) link

Had me thinking that i'd turned over from the BBC News channel too late for a bit. But couldn't tell if all the population on the floor there were the teams or Brazilian dancers.

Ceremony's being reshown on BBC2 at the moment or just has been.

Stevolende, Saturday, 6 August 2016 10:22 (four years ago) link

If BBC2 replay is anything to go by it's about 1/2 hour away from the end of the footage. That is if the timing that I'm getting on my Horizon box TV guide is right. I just caught it there.

Stevolende, Saturday, 6 August 2016 10:36 (four years ago) link

BBC2 had a 10 minute studio commentary after the end of the Ceremony so about 20 minutes from teh end. Not that it's really that relevant unless you get some chance to watch that live again. & it's up on youtube as shown above.
There's a lot of it, with a major drum break in the middle. Seems to cover about 10 minutes end to end.

Stevolende, Saturday, 6 August 2016 11:06 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

So Caetano Veloso released a new live album that features he and his sons called Ofertorio in May 2018 I now see. Sounded good on first listen

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 October 2018 03:21 (one year ago) link

Who had the idea of ​​this family Ofertório ?

It's me ! After a concert with Moreno a few years ago, it became a dream to do it with my other two sons. I waited for Tom to grow up a bit with his new band. Then, I talked to Zeca, the only one of them who never made a scene or a studio. It is someone who does things seriously, who never engages lightly and his first answer was no. I did not talk to him again. He did it himself, a few months later: he had thought it over and wanted us to try. Tom and Moreno accepted immediately.

Why this title of Ofertório ?

Originally, it's the title of a 1997 song, which I sang once in public, in a church, for my mother's 90th birthday. I wrote the words as if it were she who said them, today, I sing them by addressing directly to my sons. I also picked up the strongest titles I wrote for each of my sons' mothers. The themes of family and friends are at the heart of our repertoire.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://www.telerama.fr/sortir/caetano-veloso-dans-ma-famille,-la-musique-est-quelque-chose-de-sacre,n5715812.php&prev=search

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 October 2018 03:55 (one year ago) link

Just to say that if this dude has to go into exile again on Sunday he can stay at my apartment no prob.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 27 October 2018 12:59 (one year ago) link

He's welcome at the next ILB FAP at the Royal Oak too.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 October 2018 13:01 (one year ago) link

The editorial and his recent album are both worth checking out.

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 October 2018 13:24 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Just saw Caetano Veloso & his sons together onstage last night. A really beautiful sounding evening. While it didn’t have the edgier songs I saw him do in 2010 w/ a young band, last night was lilting melodies, rhythm, harmonies, and familial love and support. Caetano explaining how certain songs were inspired by his kids, wife, ex-wife, and mother. Plus how he’s an atheist but his kids are religious

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:06 (one year ago) link

It was pricey but worth it. At 76 He still has a great voice. It was touching and interesting to see him interact with his sons, who are all skilled musicians.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 13:32 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

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