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I like "Remission" a lot. Do they have anything else out/Affiliated to any other bands?

King Eddie, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Search: Sick Leg, a Reptilian Records 7", which has the phenomenal track, "Thank You for This".

I have yet to hear the Lifesblood EP.

Wired Flounder (Wired Flounder), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

"Lifesblood" is only OK, did not even prepare me for the total greatness of "Remission." I think Mastodon still counts as "one to watch," the next album could be completely fierce

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Search the archives of, and you find both a live show they recorded there, as well as a show during which one of their songs was played at 33rpm instead of 45rpm which made it sound just that much more crushing.

Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Search: the t-shirt that says "Mastadong" sold on their last tour which has a guy with a 18 inche dong on the front of the shirt.

Brock K. (Brock K.), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard the album only once but I really thought it was great.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

It's great - heavy with enough complexity and depth. Kicks bum.

Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Mastodon is some of the best new heavy shit in a long time. I think some of the members were in a band called Today is the Day who I've never heard. I heard the EP before Remission called Lifeblood I think... only once though and it sounded good.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Ive never heard any Today Is The Day either. Lets also do a Today Is The Day C/D, S&D etc too on this thread.

KIng Eddie, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

there aren't many bands that I'd call "weird" 'cause most "weirdness" seems so calculated (and therefore not weird 'cause it's easy to understand), but Today Is the Day, man, that there is some weird shit.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it good though and where is the best place to start?

King Eddie, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Not trying to start a lame Internet flamewar thingy (especially not about Mastodon) (and, just to clarify, I've got as much love for the 18-inch penis as the next person), but that "Mastodong" T-shirt is some racist-ass shit...

Mikael Wood, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link

That's a whole lotta love.

Wired Flounder (Wired Flounder), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:46 (eighteen years ago) link

The mid-to-late-90s period of Today is the Day is the era with the Mastodon drummer, I think (Brann Dailor)--check In the Name of God though the new double-disc Sadness Will Prevail is fucking awesome. My fave TITD is Supernova because, as JD said above, it's incredibly strange. Distorted and difficult but also somehow meatheaded--kind of like Eyehategod (who are great and wonderful and etc etc and would be greatly loved by people who enjoy Mastodon--John I think will back me up on this).

As for Mastodon, Remission was my fave album of last year, I love it, especially the first minute of "March of the Fire Ants."

adam (adam), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think Mastodon fans would necessarily like Eyehategod, since the latter don't have all those rock'n'rollisms and clean uptempo stuff. EHG is pure dread.

I think "Remission" is a really good album, though I don't really listen to it very often, I'm really curious about how that band's going to go in the future.
So far I prefer Today Is The Day quite a bit (the latest album is excellent, despite what all the cronies on the Relapse board will tell you)
However, the self titled TITD is probably my favorite nowadays.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

EHG occasionally break out into a little bit of a groove/recognizable melody--it's just buried under a huge slab of awfulness and pain (in a good way). 3/4 of Eyehategod (ie everyone but Jimmy Bower) is now in a new project called Outlaw Order, who are really insanely good. It's that same kind of Mike Williams howling over almost-hardcore--like really, really fast sludge. It's impressive.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah I'd say that the more one listens to EHG, the more actual ROCK you hear: the dread is sort of a sandbag against, ummm, the possibility of gaining listeners. Last time I listened to Dopesick it struck me as downright groovy.

As to that newest Today Is The Day, it really doesn't sound like anything to me: so completely of-itself. Maybe it reminds me a little of some o' those rockin'-er bands in the artsy-industrial English scene in the early eighties (i.e., trying to fuse anguished screaming with elegant piano sounds over a backdrop of skreeeeeech), but only a little. It's also very difficult to get through: I listened to it twice, was really impressed, and am now kind of afraid of it.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Last time I listened to Dopesick it struck me as downright groovy.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Every now and again (esp on Confederacy of Ruined Lives) they hit this patch of Allman Brothers boogie--only for a little while before it is sucked back down into murk and "sludge."

To bring this back to Mastodon: Mastodon are completely fucking great live. The tour with Dillinger Escape Plan was very cool especially as Mastodon blew DEP off the stage--perhaps a dangerous idea now that DEP has that meathead frat guy for a singer.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

If you ever see EHG live, a lot of what they're all about becomes really clear: Jimmy Bowers, the guitarist, sees no difference between sludge & boogie, or at least believes them to be halves of the same coin: he smiles a lot at the audience, is visibly groovin' behind his feel-shitty riffs, and so on. Meanwhile, the singer, Michael Williams, is nihilism personified, having a much more mean-spirited version of fun. Totally thrilling, genuinely frightening.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
i just got _remission_ - omg. omg. omg.

OMG. finally i have something to put on when i've already listened to _surrounded by thieves_ 3 times in a day.

(haven't watched the DVD yet, though.)

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link


Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to see Mastodon in less than two weeks! I'll get to see that pointy-bearded devil-singer up close. Sort of reminds me of Abe Lincoln too from the side - with a pointy devil-beard.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 10 January 2004 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just listening to Remission this afternoon, what a coinky-dink!
I love the Jurassic Park sample the album starts off with. Classic.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 11 January 2004 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm so glad people are finally getting around to praising this band. Most of Remission is pure genius (and Lifesblood is killer too).

Maybe Mastodon will help crusty rock critic types to give other 'creative' metal bands a chance - Lamb of God, people!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 January 2004 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Mastodon is pure genius indeed. Theyre all so talented together. I can't wait until their next record comes out. I think it'll blow Remission away. I think they'll just keep getting better and better. Remission sounds like they were really starting to find their own great thing and I can't wait to hear where it'll go next.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Sunday, 11 January 2004 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm finally hearing this album and it is loud and frenetic. Always a good sign.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I've said this before, but a band that starts off their album with a sample from Jurassic Park and then segues into a massive metal riff has got to be cool.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that what that was at the start? I've only seen the movie once and even then it was about half of it and I was more laughing at the UNIX system reference.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

It's from the "t-rex attacking the ford explorers in the rain" scene.

That's true that movie portrayals of computers are almost always ludicrously inaccurate (at least they always used to be before almost everyone had internet access). I was watching Weird Science on Comedy Central today and thinking the same thing.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Mastodon live a few weeks back. I was a fan before but I left knowing that I can expect some good shit on their new album this Fall. They rocked balls live.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...
New Mastodon and DEP albums have leaked. All over slsk.

Rock Bastard, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, the new DEP is in stores, so it hasn't exactly "leaked."

I have been informed that a copy of the new Mastodon is on its way to me. Can't wait.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Same here, and I should be interviewing them for an upcoming issue of Loose Lips Sink Ships.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

They blew it. No sludge, no doom, no Crusher/Destroyer, no incredible listen-to-the-drummer-play-fills-during-the-entire-fucking-album. Just a lot of cheap Maiden and Slayer imitations.

This is like Cave In following up Jupiter with Antenna.

I'm so bummed right now.

harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm. I will reserve judgment until hearing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

At first I thought that cover was amazing, but after 4 seconds of looking at it, I HATE IT.

I really wanna hear this.

Mastadon LIVE trumps Mastadon recorded, FWIW.

ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link


wait, how could they stop this? :(

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I admit that worries me a bit, I thought the whole idea was that the drummer really wanted to create a strong but also distinct sound, very much in a prog vein.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

my first reaction: IS this the new mastodon? the vocals don't sound right, the guitars are kind of lacking low-end (doom/sludge). drums seem pretty similar to "remission" but simplified during the more straightforward riffs, they're a bit higher in the mix.

(most of this could change by the time the record comes out - who knows if this is the final mix?)

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

ddb otm re. cover

jess, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Considering the album is indeed supposed to be a retelling of Moby Dick, I figured nothing yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh heh. Nothing LESS. But nothing Yes also works.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's a great album actually. It is less sludgy but hardly a sell out. I don't like bands making the same albums twice anyway.

Ramon D, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I'm not trying to lay down the official verdict, or anything. I was looking forward to the new album and think its really a bland effort to mainstream their sound. Whatever, they don't owe me anything.

Wait does that sound too pissy?

harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 05:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Got this in the mail today, along with two T-shirts (Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Relapse Records). Can't listen to it, though, because it's copy protected. Guess I'll check it out at home tonight.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

what is this called?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link


Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

you guys are crazy! I really like this one. So far....(I'm 2 tracks in)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, i see what you're saying - it's way different. Brann Dailor's drums are maybe not as over the top as before. But the songs are good! I'm totally psyched to jam this one in the car. Don't you people drive??

I think it's interesting how up-front the vox are compared to the other two records - dude seems to be cultivating a Phil-Anselmo-in-Superjoint-guise thing, which is welcome as far as I'm concerned

I wanna see 'em live

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I really dig this, too. I think cleaning up their sound, and making it less monolithic with more separation, is a major improvement. I gotta give it a few more listens before writing a review, and then I'm gonna dive headfirst into the new Necrophagist CD, which came in today's mail.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently three of the tracks are left over from the Once More 'Round the Sun sessions, and the other is from the Emperor of Sand sessions, so it's no surprise it's more mainstream. I've only listened to it once but I liked it.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 22 September 2017 17:11 (four years ago) link

At first listen "Cold Dark Place" seemed very Southern rock, not a stretch geographically but still something of a surprise ... sounded good to me.

Brad C., Friday, 22 September 2017 17:30 (four years ago) link

My understanding is that Brent Hinds was really driving this one, and he's definitely their southern rock guy

Moodles, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:44 (four years ago) link

"Blue Walsh" is great

calstars, Thursday, 28 September 2017 00:49 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Mastodon was teasing a new song and it was just released today.

Not for a new album, but a "collection of rare tracks" called Medium Rarities that will be out 9/11.

Track listing:

Fallen Torches (Previously Unreleased)
A Commotion (Feist Cover)
Asleep in the Deep (Instrumental version)
Capillarian Crest (Live)
A Spoonful Weighs A Ton (The Flaming Lips Cover)
Toe To Toes (Instrumental version)
Circle of Cysquatch (Live)
Atlanta (Butthole Surfers Cover)
Jaguar God (Instrumental)
Cut You Up With A Linoleum Life (Aqua Teen Hunger Force)
Blood & Thunder (Live)
White Walker (from Game of Thrones mix tape)
Halloween (Instrumental version)
Crystal Skull (Live)
Orion (Metallica Cover)
Iron Tusk (Live)

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:47 (one year ago) link

I'll check it out, but a little disappointed it isn't all new stuff

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 31 July 2020 20:56 (one year ago) link

I think they are working on new material as well?

chap, Sunday, 2 August 2020 12:18 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Medium Rarities

that got an actual groan from me - well done!

StanM, Monday, 26 October 2020 17:51 (one year ago) link

It's alright, I'm really glad to finally have "Cut You Up with a Linoleum Knife" and some of those live tracks are pretty killer, but all of the instrumental versions get annoying and that "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" cover is pretty awful.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 October 2020 18:03 (one year ago) link

Medium Rarities

that got an actual groan from me - well done!

steak in the conference room?

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 26 October 2020 18:29 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

pretty good new song from the weirdly stacked soundtrack to a new DC comics cartoon thing

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:56 (six months ago) link

"Blue Walsh" is great

― calstars

Been revisiting Cold Dark Place (ironically some of their warmest songs) recently and I concur.

chap, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 23:02 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

posting the new song in here, plus this interview that makes me really excited about the album

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 22:20 (two months ago) link

i also just put on remission and i'm headbanging

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 22:20 (two months ago) link

Pre-ordered the new album, along with this absurd T-shirt:

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 22:54 (two months ago) link

That looks dope

calstars, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 23:01 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Another new song/video: "Teardrinker". I'm into it. Reminds me of something from Once More 'Round the Sun.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 1 October 2021 12:00 (two months ago) link

Really dig the new one, love when the synth kicks in during the back half. Really excited to hear the whole thing now.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 October 2021 13:38 (two months ago) link


STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 1 October 2021 13:54 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

dopest one yet

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 16:53 (one month ago) link

I like that they are finding some different directions to take the guitars. Last album or two had a bit too much of just make everything sound huge all the time. I think they actually benefit from not doubling up everything to oblivion.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:24 (one month ago) link

Yeah that's proper good. I often enjoy their less obviously heavy material - that EP a few years back for example.

chap, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:52 (one month ago) link

record's their best since crack the skye imo

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 02:03 (one month ago) link

Crazy, I gave up on Mastodon years ago. Everything they'd done after Crack the Skye was forgettable, so I'll (cautiously) check the new one out.

A. Begrand, Friday, 29 October 2021 03:15 (one month ago) link

Looking forward to checking it out tomorrow. I like their latter-day albums (Emperor of Sand in particular) so my hopes are high.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 29 October 2021 03:25 (one month ago) link

The Hunter is the only one I didn't really vibe with

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 29 October 2021 03:33 (one month ago) link

record's their best since crack the skye imo


I've liked the singles well enough, but Brad and and stevie's praise has me stoked. Like Moodles, The Hunter is the only one I don't love, Emperor of Sand and that EP were both great.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:09 (one month ago) link

enjoyed this while i was working today, but it seemed to go on for a heck of a long time

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:52 (one month ago) link

it is pretty long and almost every song is five minutes

still within that there is a ton of variety

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:57 (one month ago) link

every time i threatened to get tired of it some new flourish would pull me further along, cf. the power ballads "skeleton of splendor" and "had it all"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:59 (one month ago) link

Haven't made it all the way to the end yet, but I like the Van Halen-isms on "Peace and Tranquillity."

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 29 October 2021 15:23 (one month ago) link

"more than i could chew" is so awesome

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:04 (one month ago) link

been revisiting mastodon 2.0 in light of the new record. i forgot how much i loved "stargasm" and "octopus has no friends"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 November 2021 14:08 (three weeks ago) link

I really like the new album

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Saturday, 6 November 2021 17:52 (three weeks ago) link

as an extremely casual mastodon fan - this felt like a masterpiece, after one listen today.

DT, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 04:40 (three weeks ago) link

i feel like i didn't sit with emperor of sand long enough when it came out... what an accomplished record, especially the second half. also "show yourself" is about as awesome as a capital-S Single from this band could sound, i love all the riffs in the bridge

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:20 (three weeks ago) link

once more 'round the sun was also even more awesome than i remembered it being, and made me think i should be more careful about claiming the new one as the best since crack the skye. kinda wish i had another extremely psychedelic and hilarious mastodon record

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:21 (three weeks ago) link

I still think the new one is the best since CTS, but I did also love Emperor of Sand. I need to revisit Sun again soon, but I can't stop going through the new one.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:26 (three weeks ago) link

Hearing Crack the Skye comparisons validates my thoughts lol. Sad I didn't see them at Coachella that year, or live at all until 2018.

I was definitely more a Lamb of God fan in the past - didn't quite get the Leviathan hype, though I bought Blood Mountain on CD with all the hype surrounding it.

DT, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:37 (three weeks ago) link

I've only seen them live twice, the last time was when they toured with Opeth, but they were incredible both times. I really need to try to catch them again.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:40 (three weeks ago) link

also if anyone like me slept on the cold dark place ep... stop sleeping

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:41 (three weeks ago) link

hard to believe any of those songs didn't make their respective albums

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:42 (three weeks ago) link

it's going to take a while for me to gather my thoughts on this one but first impression is very positive. This may be their best sounding album, the mix is very clear as opposed to the murk of Emperor of Sand. They seem to be really going for it performance-wise, with a welcome return to higher tempos and wild riffing, as opposed to the kind of lumbering mid-tempo stuff they often get bogged down in.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:56 (three weeks ago) link

wow, Pitchfork really hated this, huh? wtf?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 17:05 (three weeks ago) link

ok, after listening to pretty much every mastodon album, the new one sounds even… more impressive? every part of “pain with an anchor” deeply rocks. feeling like “masterpiece” is otm

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:16 (three weeks ago) link

My current ranking: Leviathan > Crack the Skye > Emperor of Sand > Hushed & Grim > Once More 'Round the Sun > Blood Mountain > The Hunter > Remission

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:19 (three weeks ago) link

Not a bad ranking at all, but I'd flip it a little:

Leviathan > Crack the Sky > Blood Mountain > Hushed > Emperor > Remission > Hunter > Sun

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:22 (three weeks ago) link

crack the skye
hushed and grim
blood mountain
once more ‘round the sun
emperor of sand
the hunter

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:28 (three weeks ago) link

Still digging this!

Also excited to hear what Brent cooks up in his new project with Matt Pike, supposedly a single and video due out before the end of the year. Read a thing that said Brent held back some songs from this Mastodon record for the Pike project, but not sure if that's just because they didn't really fit here or what. Not going to link to the article I read since it also includes Brent dropping a homophobic slur while he's trashing other bands they've toured with.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 22:07 (two weeks ago) link

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