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I like "Remission" a lot. Do they have anything else out/Affiliated to any other bands?

King Eddie, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Search: Sick Leg, a Reptilian Records 7", which has the phenomenal track, "Thank You for This".

I have yet to hear the Lifesblood EP.

Wired Flounder (Wired Flounder), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"Lifesblood" is only OK, did not even prepare me for the total greatness of "Remission." I think Mastodon still counts as "one to watch," the next album could be completely fierce

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Search the archives of www.wfmu.org, and you find both a live show they recorded there, as well as a show during which one of their songs was played at 33rpm instead of 45rpm which made it sound just that much more crushing.

Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Search: the t-shirt that says "Mastadong" sold on their last tour which has a guy with a 18 inche dong on the front of the shirt.

Brock K. (Brock K.), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard the album only once but I really thought it was great.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's great - heavy with enough complexity and depth. Kicks bum.

Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Mastodon is some of the best new heavy shit in a long time. I think some of the members were in a band called Today is the Day who I've never heard. I heard the EP before Remission called Lifeblood I think... only once though and it sounded good.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Ive never heard any Today Is The Day either. Lets also do a Today Is The Day C/D, S&D etc too on this thread.

KIng Eddie, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

there aren't many bands that I'd call "weird" 'cause most "weirdness" seems so calculated (and therefore not weird 'cause it's easy to understand), but Today Is the Day, man, that there is some weird shit.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it good though and where is the best place to start?

King Eddie, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Not trying to start a lame Internet flamewar thingy (especially not about Mastodon) (and, just to clarify, I've got as much love for the 18-inch penis as the next person), but that "Mastodong" T-shirt is some racist-ass shit...

Mikael Wood, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link

That's a whole lotta love.

Wired Flounder (Wired Flounder), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

The mid-to-late-90s period of Today is the Day is the era with the Mastodon drummer, I think (Brann Dailor)--check In the Name of God though the new double-disc Sadness Will Prevail is fucking awesome. My fave TITD is Supernova because, as JD said above, it's incredibly strange. Distorted and difficult but also somehow meatheaded--kind of like Eyehategod (who are great and wonderful and etc etc and would be greatly loved by people who enjoy Mastodon--John I think will back me up on this).

As for Mastodon, Remission was my fave album of last year, I love it, especially the first minute of "March of the Fire Ants."

adam (adam), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Mastodon fans would necessarily like Eyehategod, since the latter don't have all those rock'n'rollisms and clean uptempo stuff. EHG is pure dread.

I think "Remission" is a really good album, though I don't really listen to it very often, I'm really curious about how that band's going to go in the future.
So far I prefer Today Is The Day quite a bit (the latest album is excellent, despite what all the cronies on the Relapse board will tell you)
However, the self titled TITD is probably my favorite nowadays.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

EHG occasionally break out into a little bit of a groove/recognizable melody--it's just buried under a huge slab of awfulness and pain (in a good way). 3/4 of Eyehategod (ie everyone but Jimmy Bower) is now in a new project called Outlaw Order, who are really insanely good. It's that same kind of Mike Williams howling over almost-hardcore--like really, really fast sludge. It's impressive.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah I'd say that the more one listens to EHG, the more actual ROCK you hear: the dread is sort of a sandbag against, ummm, the possibility of gaining listeners. Last time I listened to Dopesick it struck me as downright groovy.

As to that newest Today Is The Day, it really doesn't sound like anything to me: so completely of-itself. Maybe it reminds me a little of some o' those rockin'-er bands in the artsy-industrial English scene in the early eighties (i.e., trying to fuse anguished screaming with elegant piano sounds over a backdrop of skreeeeeech), but only a little. It's also very difficult to get through: I listened to it twice, was really impressed, and am now kind of afraid of it.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Last time I listened to Dopesick it struck me as downright groovy.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Every now and again (esp on Confederacy of Ruined Lives) they hit this patch of Allman Brothers boogie--only for a little while before it is sucked back down into murk and "sludge."

To bring this back to Mastodon: Mastodon are completely fucking great live. The tour with Dillinger Escape Plan was very cool especially as Mastodon blew DEP off the stage--perhaps a dangerous idea now that DEP has that meathead frat guy for a singer.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

If you ever see EHG live, a lot of what they're all about becomes really clear: Jimmy Bowers, the guitarist, sees no difference between sludge & boogie, or at least believes them to be halves of the same coin: he smiles a lot at the audience, is visibly groovin' behind his feel-shitty riffs, and so on. Meanwhile, the singer, Michael Williams, is nihilism personified, having a much more mean-spirited version of fun. Totally thrilling, genuinely frightening.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...
i just got _remission_ - omg. omg. omg.

OMG. finally i have something to put on when i've already listened to _surrounded by thieves_ 3 times in a day.

(haven't watched the DVD yet, though.)

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

bumbumWHOMaragagarag

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm going to see Mastodon in less than two weeks! I'll get to see that pointy-bearded devil-singer up close. Sort of reminds me of Abe Lincoln too from the side - with a pointy devil-beard.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 10 January 2004 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just listening to Remission this afternoon, what a coinky-dink!
I love the Jurassic Park sample the album starts off with. Classic.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 11 January 2004 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm so glad people are finally getting around to praising this band. Most of Remission is pure genius (and Lifesblood is killer too).

Maybe Mastodon will help crusty rock critic types to give other 'creative' metal bands a chance - Lamb of God, people!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 January 2004 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Mastodon is pure genius indeed. Theyre all so talented together. I can't wait until their next record comes out. I think it'll blow Remission away. I think they'll just keep getting better and better. Remission sounds like they were really starting to find their own great thing and I can't wait to hear where it'll go next.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Sunday, 11 January 2004 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm finally hearing this album and it is loud and frenetic. Always a good sign.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I've said this before, but a band that starts off their album with a sample from Jurassic Park and then segues into a massive metal riff has got to be cool.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Is that what that was at the start? I've only seen the movie once and even then it was about half of it and I was more laughing at the UNIX system reference.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:01 (sixteen years ago) link

It's from the "t-rex attacking the ford explorers in the rain" scene.

That's true that movie portrayals of computers are almost always ludicrously inaccurate (at least they always used to be before almost everyone had internet access). I was watching Weird Science on Comedy Central today and thinking the same thing.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw Mastodon live a few weeks back. I was a fan before but I left knowing that I can expect some good shit on their new album this Fall. They rocked balls live.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...
New Mastodon and DEP albums have leaked. All over slsk.

Rock Bastard, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, the new DEP is in stores, so it hasn't exactly "leaked."

I have been informed that a copy of the new Mastodon is on its way to me. Can't wait.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Same here, and I should be interviewing them for an upcoming issue of Loose Lips Sink Ships.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

http://shop.relapse.com/dbimages/sleeves/6682_216.jpg

They blew it. No sludge, no doom, no Crusher/Destroyer, no incredible listen-to-the-drummer-play-fills-during-the-entire-fucking-album. Just a lot of cheap Maiden and Slayer imitations.

This is like Cave In following up Jupiter with Antenna.

I'm so bummed right now.

harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmm. I will reserve judgment until hearing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

At first I thought that cover was amazing, but after 4 seconds of looking at it, I HATE IT.

I really wanna hear this.

Mastadon LIVE trumps Mastadon recorded, FWIW.

ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

"listen-to-the-drummer-play-fills-during-the-entire-fucking-album"

wait, how could they stop this? :(

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I admit that worries me a bit, I thought the whole idea was that the drummer really wanted to create a strong but also distinct sound, very much in a prog vein.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

my first reaction: IS this the new mastodon? the vocals don't sound right, the guitars are kind of lacking low-end (doom/sludge). drums seem pretty similar to "remission" but simplified during the more straightforward riffs, they're a bit higher in the mix.

(most of this could change by the time the record comes out - who knows if this is the final mix?)

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

ddb otm re. cover

jess, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Considering the album is indeed supposed to be a retelling of Moby Dick, I figured nothing yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Heh heh. Nothing LESS. But nothing Yes also works.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it's a great album actually. It is less sludgy but hardly a sell out. I don't like bands making the same albums twice anyway.

Ramon D, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I'm not trying to lay down the official verdict, or anything. I was looking forward to the new album and think its really a bland effort to mainstream their sound. Whatever, they don't owe me anything.

Wait does that sound too pissy?

harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Got this in the mail today, along with two T-shirts (Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Relapse Records). Can't listen to it, though, because it's copy protected. Guess I'll check it out at home tonight.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

what is this called?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Leviathan

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

you guys are crazy! I really like this one. So far....(I'm 2 tracks in)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, i see what you're saying - it's way different. Brann Dailor's drums are maybe not as over the top as before. But the songs are good! I'm totally psyched to jam this one in the car. Don't you people drive??

I think it's interesting how up-front the vox are compared to the other two records - dude seems to be cultivating a Phil-Anselmo-in-Superjoint-guise thing, which is welcome as far as I'm concerned

I wanna see 'em live

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I really dig this, too. I think cleaning up their sound, and making it less monolithic with more separation, is a major improvement. I gotta give it a few more listens before writing a review, and then I'm gonna dive headfirst into the new Necrophagist CD, which came in today's mail.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I've tried but I can't get into this new one. It's too straight-forward and obvious, or a lesser attempt at their older sounds like The Hunter. I get that Crack the Skye was a difficult album for them personally as well as musically and they wanted to become a bit more relaxed in approach ever since but they've just sounded half-arsed ever since. I'm glad that they're successful and most likely make a living from what they do now because they deserve it but to me they've just gone from amazing to mediocre.

a proclamation of tortoise intent (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:04 (five years ago) link

The tracks on the last two albums are less obviously proggy than their earlier stuff but there are a lot more twists and turns in there than may be apparent on first listen.

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:34 (five years ago) link

I've listened to it a few times now, but it's just not doing it for me! They're still a pretty good band but I don't think I'll be listening to this too often. If I want sludgy proggy pop-metal Torche and Floor are way superior so I'll stick with them for the time being

a proclamation of tortoise intent (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:38 (five years ago) link

yeah i actually thought this record had a lot more oblique and unexpected passages than say the hunter

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:58 (five years ago) link

i've only listened to it once though. iirc it was groovy and fun

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:58 (five years ago) link

I really tried with The Hunter but some kind of spark of life is just missing

anonanon, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 04:04 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Having difficulty rallying my irl friends for the Brixton show in November, anyone off here going?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 5 September 2014 18:15 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

http://i1.wp.com/www.ghostcultmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/mastodon-game-of-thrones.jpg

Mastodon’s Brann Dailor describes their time Beyond the Wall:

It was such an incredible experience to be on set as extras for our collective favorite show Game Of Thrones and to be wildlings murdered and then brought back to life by White Walkers was beyond amazing. I watched my best friends Brent Hinds and Bill Kelliher, murdered right in front of me as I myself was stabbed in the stomach and had my throat slit multiple times, and I didn’t mind at all. It made me love being in Mastodon even more. We are more than privileged and honored to have been a part of one of the greatest stories ever told on film, and the catering wasn’t bad either.

earlnash, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:58 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og39iIBeOHI&t=184s

chap, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:10 (three years ago) link

I'll try again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og39iIBeOHI

chap, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:11 (three years ago) link

It's good. Doesn't appear to be a radical departure from their last two albums, but I don't think anyone was particularly expecting that at this point. New album coming March.

chap, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:12 (three years ago) link

The opening riff is rather similar to the one on the most recent Baroness album.

chap, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:14 (three years ago) link

I am v bored of what they sound like w/ Brendan O'Brien on the boards

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 27 January 2017 16:14 (three years ago) link

this is the first time he's produced them since crack the skye, but i agree

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 27 January 2017 16:18 (three years ago) link

they're much better singers now at least

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 27 January 2017 16:20 (three years ago) link

oh is it? all their recent albums have that same flat dull sound to me. xp

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 27 January 2017 16:20 (three years ago) link

right, only Crack The Skye, which I think sounds great, but that's not a popular POV

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 27 January 2017 16:25 (three years ago) link

They all sound fine to me, but I'm not a production nerd.

chap, Friday, 27 January 2017 17:31 (three years ago) link

I like the new song, but it's about as predictably Mastodon-ish as anyone could imagine. I'm still looking forward to the new one, though. Current ranking: Leviathan > Crack the Skye > Once More 'Round the Sun > The Hunter > Remission > Blood Mountain (though honestly the last three are basically a tie for "yeah, no thanks").

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 27 January 2017 17:42 (three years ago) link

Would more or less agree with your ranking, I find Remission and Blood Mountain fairly impenetrable. The Hunter has an ep's worth of good songs.

chap, Friday, 27 January 2017 17:46 (three years ago) link

once more 'round the sun is a great record; i think the hunter is pretty easily their worst. ranking remission and blood mountain that low is nonsense

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 27 January 2017 17:49 (three years ago) link

I've tried with both of them and never got into them. It's not that I don't enjoy their heavier work as I love Leviathan. Maybe they'll click one day.

chap, Friday, 27 January 2017 17:54 (three years ago) link

Speaking as someone who didn't like their last two albums very much I think this new song's pretty good.

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 27 January 2017 17:58 (three years ago) link

Blood Mountain is great y'all. The Hunter is the only one that I can't really get with although I love "Black Tongue".

I like Brendan O'Brien's production work because he really shines a light on their awesome guitar riffs. New song is dope, BTW.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 27 January 2017 18:27 (three years ago) link

feel like the drums get sorta buried in the riff clouds on crack the skye and this new song, but i'm looking forward to the record anyway

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 27 January 2017 18:28 (three years ago) link

you're probably right, I prefer guitar over drums production on this type of album because it sounds more naturalistic to me and just louder overall. But that creates a situation where the drums do end up taking a little bit of a backseat.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 27 January 2017 18:43 (three years ago) link

you're probably right, I prefer guitar over drums production on this type of album because it sounds more naturalistic to me and just louder overall. But that creates a situation where the drums do end up taking a little bit of a backseat.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 27 January 2017 18:43 (three years ago) link

Can't listen right now, is that a bad hm?

chap, Friday, 3 February 2017 12:52 (three years ago) link

it's an undecided hm

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2017 12:55 (three years ago) link

I uh can't imagine their fanbase getting super stoked about this lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 3 February 2017 13:03 (three years ago) link

The first track had me a little bit intrigued but now I think I'll just give this album a miss

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 3 February 2017 13:26 (three years ago) link

I don't hate this track, but I don't really get why they keep trying out these pop metal tracks that just don't play to their strengths. Also leaning way to much on Bran Dailor's vocals.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 3 February 2017 14:45 (three years ago) link

Brann is the weakest of the vocalists, easily.

chap, Friday, 3 February 2017 14:46 (three years ago) link

It's not nearly as bad as I was expecting from the reaction. I ike the off kilter solo.

chap, Friday, 3 February 2017 16:03 (three years ago) link

Oh I don't hate it but it's just vanilla radio-rock and I don't feel the need to ever hear it again.

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 3 February 2017 16:30 (three years ago) link

I suspect this isn't what the whole album will sound like, but we'll see

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 3 February 2017 16:43 (three years ago) link

I also suspect it might be a better tune than it first appears, as I find many Mastodon tracks to be.

chap, Friday, 3 February 2017 16:46 (three years ago) link

Like that Mark Twain quote about Wagner's music being better than it sounds?

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 3 February 2017 19:06 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

OK, so now I've heard three songs from the new album and I still haven't been convinced to pre-order it. This is a bad sign. I guess I kinda wanted them to still be capable of surprising me, and none of these songs do that. I liked the last album, but... I might be over these guys.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:54 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Mastodon have a new 4 song ep out and I'm loving it. It's a little cleaner and less brutal than their last album, basically just straight up modern rock. I really like this change of pace.

Moodles, Friday, 22 September 2017 16:45 (two years ago) link

Also getting a bit of a Pink Floyd vibe in places.

Moodles, Friday, 22 September 2017 16:52 (two years ago) link

Apparently three of the tracks are left over from the Once More 'Round the Sun sessions, and the other is from the Emperor of Sand sessions, so it's no surprise it's more mainstream. I've only listened to it once but I liked it.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 22 September 2017 17:11 (two years ago) link

At first listen "Cold Dark Place" seemed very Southern rock, not a stretch geographically but still something of a surprise ... sounded good to me.

Brad C., Friday, 22 September 2017 17:30 (two years ago) link

My understanding is that Brent Hinds was really driving this one, and he's definitely their southern rock guy

Moodles, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:44 (two years ago) link

"Blue Walsh" is great

calstars, Thursday, 28 September 2017 00:49 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Mastodon was teasing a new song and it was just released today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiXTJvnWA_4

Not for a new album, but a "collection of rare tracks" called Medium Rarities that will be out 9/11.

http://linkstorage.linkfire.com/medialinks/images/872f0207-db7f-495f-9c50-1f5f7b4c6f1d/artwork-440x440.jpg

Track listing:

Fallen Torches (Previously Unreleased)
A Commotion (Feist Cover)
Asleep in the Deep (Instrumental version)
Capillarian Crest (Live)
A Spoonful Weighs A Ton (The Flaming Lips Cover)
Toe To Toes (Instrumental version)
Circle of Cysquatch (Live)
Atlanta (Butthole Surfers Cover)
Jaguar God (Instrumental)
Cut You Up With A Linoleum Life (Aqua Teen Hunger Force)
Blood & Thunder (Live)
White Walker (from Game of Thrones mix tape)
Halloween (Instrumental version)
Crystal Skull (Live)
Orion (Metallica Cover)
Iron Tusk (Live)

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:47 (one week ago) link

I'll check it out, but a little disappointed it isn't all new stuff

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 31 July 2020 20:56 (one week ago) link

I think they are working on new material as well?

chap, Sunday, 2 August 2020 12:18 (one week ago) link


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