oh yeah absolutely. lots of examples on this album, but the best is obviously from tired eyes: "he tried to do his best, but he could not"
― supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:13 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is a great example too
I usually find it pretty bullshitty when musicians say "oh i don't know where my lyrics/music come from, i'm just channeling it from somewhere" but with Neil sometimes I really do believe he doesn't know exactly what his songs are about
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
I think always explains why Neil can pull such mind-blowing boners when writing lyrics too (like say 90% of the last ten yrs) cuz yeah I think he really is tapping into his subconscious and I can imagine when yr writing you might think "man that line is really banal & clunky but, hey it worked in the 70s!"
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
I don't trust a lyricist who never produces eye-wateringly bad lyrics every now and again tbh.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
For real, you gotta swing for the fences
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
I read an interview around '90-'91 or so where he was asked about the lyrics to "I Am A Child."
"'What is the color when black is burned'? I don't even know what that means. It's...like a dark grey, I guess?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
lol
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link
I first heard On the Beach my first time in Los Angeles in August 1999. I was out there for my friends’ wedding and after the rehearsal dinner I got extremely drunk then later stoned back in the hotel room where a friend had a bootleg copy on a burned CD. Maybe it was the circumstances, but it had a haunting, profound effect on me, at least the first side did. The second side didn’t have the same impact.
A few years later I found my own bootleg CD with TFA on it as well. It was only after years of listening to it did I realize the second half is the heart of the album.
― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
oh yeah absolutely. lots of examples on this album, but the best is obviously from tired eyes
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
lol Tarfumes I too distinctly remember that, p sure it was in a Spin profile (by Jimmy McDonough, iirc?) He asked him about a bunch of different lyrics.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link
Yep, I think that's the one. iirc, in that same interview, Neil said of his artistic comeback, "It's a good thing I didn't get hit by a bus right after Old Ways came out."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
Which ... is not on this album― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:38 (yesterday) Permalink
lots of examples on this album, but the best [is not on this album but] is obviously from tired eyes
― supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link
can I praise David Crosby for his electric rhythm work on "Revolution Blues"?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link
Entirely by accident I ended up listening to this album earlier this evening. Yes to praising David Crosby's rhy gtr on "Revolution Blues"! But even more praise for the bass playing, listening to which I found myself thinking, "Is that Rick Danko?" And sure enough, it's Rick Danko!
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link
ilx is a #croz positive space
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link
crozitivity
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link
― there’s gonna be a hot time in the ol’ tub machine tonight (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 09:25 (five years ago) link
Rhythm guitar not the guitar solo. He was always a good rhythm guitarist.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 09:42 (five years ago) link
yeah, i got that - the solo is obviously neil, i was just taken aback that croz is playing the hairy rhythm guitar
― there’s gonna be a hot time in the ol’ tub machine tonight (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link
pretty sure Crosby plays rhythm on "Cowboy Movie" which is nice gnarly & chunky
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 10:59 (five years ago) link
neil has an endless number of lyrics that are sort of banal but also somehow incredibly moving and deep and full of meaning to me
these are all the best lyrics imo
― ogmor, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link
It can change you in the middle of the day
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 11:08 (five years ago) link
I think the main rhythm guitar figure in Revolution Blues, the spidery, scratchy one, is still Neil. There's another, muddier one behind it that's probably Croz playing chords. If you listen, the main rhythm guitar drops out right before the solo. There's even a little pause where Neil sounds like he's just taking a second to stomp on his pedal. Either way, not knocking Crosby, but I suspect all the more noticeable guitaring is Neil.
― wump, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link
i feel like #Croz - If I Could Only Remember My Name is the sister album to On the Beach (at least in my mind)
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link
totally
― sleeve, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link
I'm a vampire baaabe
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
the sleazy dragging lethargy of vampire blues is so great, like the whole band is fighting its way through tar from start to finish amazing anti-guitar-solo too
― there’s gonna be a hot time in the ol’ tub machine tonight (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
He's one of those rockers of that generation who tried mightily to avoid 12-bar blues, so when he succumbs it's kinda cool.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
would love to hear just raw session tape from On The Beach. crazy that neil has only played "motion pictures" live once! maybe he'll dig it out in boston tonight.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link
Maybe this is in "Shakey", I can't remember, but is Neil having CROZ playing on Revolution Blues some kind weird twisting the knife cuz weren't CROZ & Stills (and probably half the rock stars in Topanga Canyon circa '69) convinced that they were on the Manson Family hitlist?
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
I don't know what the fuck about "Revolution Blues" apparently scared Crosby to death – might be coke paranoia.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
yeah i think stills and croz went out and bought shotguns or something after the manson killings.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
xpost I imagine this line
"Well, I hear that Laurel Canyonis full of famous stars,But I hate them worse than lepersand I'll kill themin their cars."
wasn't CROZ's fave
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
ask him on Twitter
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
If he just blocks me does that mean he really was scared?
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
David Crosby = worst Byrd
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
In contrast, didn't Neil say Manson was kind of an OK guy?
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
(xp) Have you heard those songs Skip Battin wrote with Kim Fowley?
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 11, 2018 10:23 AM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think crosby was tight w/terry melcher, and obv neil had hung w/manson and dennis wilson...
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
Crosby's father was an award winning cinematographer, their family was very much in the film industry, which was one of the Manson cult's big targets. he straddled the line -- like many artists -- between old money and youthful revolutionary. pretty understandable that he would be scared when people are being brutally murdered.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Crosby
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
Was just listening to the title track and although the ramble of it, the repetition, would probably make Auden blush, it did make me think of sections of the Age of Anxiety:
... The fears we knowAre of not knowing. Will nightfall bring usSome awful order - Keep a hardware store In a small town... Teach science for life to Progressive girls -? It is getting late. Shall we ever be asked for? Are we simply Not wanted at all?
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 08:57 (five years ago) link