EMusic - C/D

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I've been doing a little research on the pay mp3 sites like rhapsody, etc. EMusic is the only one (I think) that allows full usage once a file is downloaded. It costs $9.99/mo if one commits to 12 months (14.99 otherwise) and offers plenty of worthwhile stuff, like the Ethiopiques series, a Thelonious Monk box, about 25 Fall albums, etc., not to mention most of the Matador catalog. I can supposedly download guilt-free since "EMusic splits all of the profits from membership fees 50/50 with the label or artist."

This is nice and all, but it just doesn't add up. Say I download 1000 songs/month or 100 albums each from a different artist or label (a modest estimate, probably), and pay 10 bucks for that 100. Each "label or artist" gets $.05, after EMusic takes their share. What can the artist possibly get out of that $.05. I'd say half of that would be generous, so $.025 (assuming the label takes the other half). Say 100 people download that same artist's album. So the artist makes $2.50/month-- and that's a generous estimate. $2.50 for 100 albums sold. The truth is probably closer to one cent or less per download that goes to the artist.

Now, my inclination is to say, "Hey, it's better than nothing." But is it? It seems like an insult. And the main argument against file-sharing is, "Wah, the artists aren't getting paid." "Support the artist," etc. But they're not getting paid with this system either, it seems.

What do you think? And if my math is wrong, or my argument's bunk, let me know.


scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 17:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm bound to say: Dud.

scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 17:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm saying classic.

It's got weird stuff. And the artists who produce weird stuff aren't making much money anyway.

J (Jay), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 17:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah...leaving the math out of it, or at least from a consumerist point of view, it's not half-bad.

The fact it's the one place you can go to get a few important deleted titles (for instance, Peter Laughner's "Take The Guitar Player For A Ride" and the Sleepers' stuff as reissued on tim/kerr) makes it arguably classic.

I mean, "Take The Guitar Player..." is classic. At the very least one should go, sign up for your trial membership, and download the Laughner before cancelling...

M Specktor (M Specktor), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 17:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it was classic a few years ago when me and some interweb pals took advantage of a free $10 coupon over and over and over for a few days.

i haven't really looked at it since.

brian badword (badwords), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 18:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

that particular part of the math i know nothing about. what i do know is that back in the day EMusic paid out relatively large advances to artists. the artists don't get any more money until the advance recoups. They apparently gave Frank Black $200,000 in advance, and he used the dough to buy a farm in western Massachusetts, USA.

also, back in the day (2000, we're talkin') the quality of the MP3s was sort of dodgy. I did get a Nomad for buying $50 worth of music the one time I used it, and that rocked.

j breitling (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 20:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ahhh 2000, those were heady times!

Artists getting paid for downloads vs. not. Seems bogus coming from emusic's mouth. What advantage does emusic provide so that I won't just use slsk? Certainly it's the idea that the tracks are "legal," but truthfully I only feel bad using slsk because the artists aren't getting paid. And especially "the artists who produce weird stuff [who] aren't making much money anyway."

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 00:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


classic, especially for out-of-print electronica.

it's worth it just for the fact that you can get most of the Rather Interesting back catalogue, and Senor Coconut gets paid a royalty for each track. they've also got great drum and bass comps (reinforced and certificate 18), old daniel wang material, old ken ishii material, experimental audio research, etc.

i have to admit, though, that i just used the free trial to get the stuff above (and the artists still got paid).

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

oh and it looks like since i stopped using emusic they've added the back catalogues for trax (the trax! farley and armando!) and undaground therapy (roy davis jr!), force tracks, moving shadow, schematic, and matador.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

classic - it does take some time and effort to get the most out of it, but i found some amazing stuff that i might never have heard otherwise.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 03:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they seem to have some weird labels -- the sort of labels that seem to cover many genres, dig up loose tapes of artists primarily associated with some other label and release them, like the Italian label 'base' that reissued ESP through to Rough Trade on vinyl in the '80s
typically these labels dig up interesting recordings of jazz, classical and film music as well as bootleg-like live recordings of rock music (sound quality seemed ok with everything i got)

i found a few deleted 20th century 'classical' titles that i was unable to buy anywhere on the web anymore and so that was good -- but searching for more similarly unique stuff by the same composers didn't go anywhere (in that case they had a sampling of titles from the clasical label Koch, leaving me wanting more)

so it seemed they had something of everything, but then just something, ie just xyz on label q, just some of the obscure stuff -- admittedly stuff i've not seen available anywhere else -- so not much depth for any given artist, more 'lost tapes from 1975' type stuff -- stuff you might not have known existed

george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 05:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Recently, Emusic switched to VBR LAME encoding. That was actually what inspired me to join up. I don't regret it for a second.

I've downloaded mostly hard-to-find stuff, and stuff where I know the artists aren't getting shit anyway -- ferinstance, I got the entire CCR catalogue, since Saul Zaentz still ownz that shit and John Fogerty's still getting screwed over it. However, the artists who produce weird stuff who aren't getting paid anyway seem to be making a least a little bit here. They would make nothing if I downloaded from Soulseek, checked out from the library, or bought a used compact disc. They're making precious little even when we buy new CDs. I feel no guilt.

J (Jay), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What advantage does emusic provide so that I won't just use slsk?

- Faster downloads, about 10 - 100 times faster for me.
- Songs are reliably named and tagged.
- Search function doesn't completely suck.
- Yazoo, Ethiopiques, JSP, Riverside, Milestone, etc.

I use Soulseek a lot more, but I'm glad there's both.

Curt (cgould), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(I just finished doing an interview about online music, paid-for downloads, and broadband, and I'm pleased that this thread vindicates all the stuff I made up about emusic!)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ATTN Anglophiles (& Pixies lovers):

Suddenly this morning, I see where EMusic's new arrivals list is just page after page of back catalog from what must be a new label signing, Beggars Banquet & "Beggars Group": 4AD, Too Pure, XL, Mantra, Wijja, etc.

I think I'll start with those Velocette singles...

Curt (cgould), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 14:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Was considering subscribing but is it true that many labels are unavailable outside of America & Canada?
Want some of that Matador Records stuff, but I was told I wouldnt be able to download that and quite a few other labels due to licensing restrictions.

Pete X, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 18:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Well?

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 03:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

formerly classic, now a big fat dud. i cancelled my subscription as soon as they instigated the download limits. i could download 40 MP3s in an hour!

Andrew Calaman (Andrew Calaman), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
http://www.emusic.com/about/pr/pr183.html

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Okay, now they're adding eighties stuff from the Crammed label. I had to buy a booster pack to get it all (total bargain, btw - 50 downloads for $14.95). That seals it - I am officially in love with emusic.

I think it's best for people who have really broad tastes and like a lot of international musics and blues, country, whatever.

Yr3k (dymaxia), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
They are now running an ad for 50 free downloads. Has anyone done this?

dewey, Thursday, 5 May 2005 18:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They've had that for a long time (used to be 100 back in the early days). It works.

dlp9001, Thursday, 5 May 2005 18:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

try this link:
http://www.emusic.com/promo.html

not sure if it'll work, but it might be worth a shot

a banana (alanbanana), Thursday, 5 May 2005 18:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Did my 50 last night. Got Stereolab's first Switched On, MF Doom's Operation Doomsday (a very nice find since the CD is long out of print), Xmal Deutschland's Tocsin, and a Trevor Jackson remix of Soft Cell.

telephonething, Thursday, 5 May 2005 18:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They were running this promo last summer and they totally got me hooked. EMusic has all the '90s stuff I need to upgrade from cassette or cassette dubs, including digital versions of a fair amount of 7 inches. I look forward to the day each month when my subscription renews.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
Five months later, everyone still happy? Twenty-five cents per song doesn't seem so bad.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i am. they've added a lot of labels recently, including merge, touch and go, smithsonian folkways, sun, and tvt.

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I didn't like it. I would have stuck with it if your downloads simply accumulated each month though. They give you so few downloads that it's hard to remember to go back. You use them all up in one day and then have to remember to check back in next month when you're allowed to download more? Dud.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 6 October 2005 22:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
I say Classic, although the non-rollover is a bit Dud. Great eMusic advantages for me are:

-- instantaneous access to the extended classical canon in serviceable-to-great recordings due to inclusion of Naxos catalogue;
-- cheap opportunity for upgrading some vinyl stuff I have to digital (eg from 4AD); since I already have the artwork etc I don't feel I'm missing out on much compared to buying CDs;
-- fun of randomly trying something unknown for very little cost.

I'd appreciate a higher-volume account option than the current max of 90 tracks for $20 a month, though (ie EMUSIC CAN YOU HEAR ME I WANT TO GIVE YOU MORE MONEY).

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 16 December 2005 23:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It seems strange that the length of the song doesn't affect the price. Like would you pay the same price for two Ramones songs as you would for a whole album of Fela Kuti? Of course, I don't have emusic; I've just always wondered about that.

sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Saturday, 17 December 2005 00:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

when, last month or the month before, they added THE ENTIRE F'IN NAXOS CATALOG FFS, they became QUITE CLASSIC INDEED

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 17 December 2005 01:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i find emusic frustrating because it's not soulseek...but sometimes it has things that i can't even find on soulseek (vulgar boatmen, higelin & areski, robert pete williams). but what is classic is the 50 free download scam. you can do this any time you get a new email address--just plug in your new email address, fill out the rest of the information, get 50 free downloads one night, cancel, and you're totally commitment-free. done that a couple times when i need instant gratification.

naturemorte, Saturday, 17 December 2005 08:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It seems strange that the length of the song doesn't affect the price.

Haha yes that is a bit dim. Talking of classical, this means e.g. that symphonies are usually dirt cheap, opera less so.

Hm maybe one should write a program that scoured the catalogue and found the best bargains from the track lengths... ;)

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 17 December 2005 09:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This is great. I just signed up for emusic and I'm downloading Holger Czukay's La Luna (one track = 47:14)...I'm totally getting my money's worth...or uhh...free trial's worth. heh.

sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Saturday, 17 December 2005 15:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I left eMusic in a fume when they put a cap on the maximum downloadable songs per user in 2003 or whenever, but came crawling back when I realized that everything I was buying at $10 a pop on iTunes was also on eMusic for a flat rate. Could've saved a hundred bucks or so.

I started to make a list of the "few" finds that made me happy to be a member, before it became a huge list and I had to void my whole argument.

Not enough downloads, I agree, but I love it.

And SO VERY GLAD they don't pro-rate songs or pieces by length.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Sunday, 18 December 2005 00:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

! One or more tracks from this album are unavailable for download at this time.

! We're sorry. This album is unavailable for download in your country at this time. Please check back later.

These preclude classic status.

jcartledge (jcartledge), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hm maybe one should write a program that scoured the catalogue and found the best bargains from the track lengths... ;)

google site:emusic.com inurl:album 15..80-0..59-listen

change the 15 to whatever you want the minimum length in minutes to be.

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Okay, I write for them, so I'm biased, but: I use eMusic a LOT. Huge selection of Sun Ra, the entire Document catalogue, the entire Tzadik catalogue, the entire Stax catalogue, out-of-print CD-R stuff from VHF, Dischord, Touch & Go, JSP, Smithsonian Folkways... And they're MP3s. No DRM crap at all. Yay.

Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah there really is a good selection of Sun Ra; I was surprised. Also a lot of Dub stuff that I can never find on slsk. I'm pretty happy with it so far.

sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Sunday, 18 December 2005 05:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've been an eMusic junkie for years.

If you burn the albums to CD, you always have a stack of CDs with stuff you haven't heard on it waiting for you!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Sunday, 18 December 2005 05:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the Vintner's Lipogram wrote:
Hm maybe one should write a program that scoured the catalogue and found the best bargains from the track lengths... ;)

Heh, I downloaded John Cage's Empty Words (part III) from eMusic - two tracks, 74 minutes each.

They also have some live albums that I haven't seen elsewhere (search for "Schubas" and "Casbah" for starters.)

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 18 December 2005 07:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I just downloaded the Akron/Family live album--just one long track and then a short song--and it is DEVASTATING. So good. Half of it is just a dude reading William Blake with crazy improv/noise in the background. It's great.

sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Sunday, 18 December 2005 14:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

like doug, i write for emusic, so i'm biased, obviously. but their catalogue is really pretty incredible - screamo, indie rock, jazz, world music, bizarro shit.... the electronic portion is getting much much better too - they just brought on K7, they got TVT, and playhouse is starting to trickle in...

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

eMusic is (esp. for ILM-types) the best deal out there and nothing comes close.

I wish I could pay more for higher quality, or that the downloads were higher quality; it irks me to know that someday, like with my cassettes and my vinyl and my early CDs, that I'll probably upgrade a lot of what I picked up on eMusic because the bitrate is noticeable.

Nothing personal to Doug or Philip (two writers whose work I admire and like a lot) but I still do not find eMusic to be a community type of place for me where I want to spend time doing anything but downloading. There's a lot of quality writing and some of the lists are really great, but I can't seem to make eMusic a daily stop in my surfing. It's not a destination for me in that sense and I'm not sure why.

Also, the exclusive live stuff is a nice touch and I wish there was more of that (like the exclusive titles that the CIMS gets.)

don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I always put off downloads when I was a member, thinking I'd do it the next day or picking between tracks, and kept getting screwed at the end of the month. They should really make it a rollover plan.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 18 December 2005 20:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i can't find enough songs i want in my 100 mp3 free trial!

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Sunday, 18 December 2005 23:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

100? I only got 50 in my free trial. But that was hard enough, I wouldn't have wanted to have to think of another 50 that I could find on eMusic.

This was my download strategy:

1. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm (all tracks)
I've heard and liked the singles, I've skimmed through the rest at a listening station in some record store. I think it's a really good album, but before buying it I've wanted to spend some time listening to it straight through to be sure I separate my own impressions from the hype that surrounded it. [Conclusion: I'll buy the CD as soon as I can find it used.]

2. [remembering the notion, expressed in this thread, that it's good to download LONG tracks]
Eliane Radigue, Trilogie de la mort -- three hour-long tracks, beautiful drone-y electronic sounds, the smartest decision I made in this whole process

3. [spontaneously deciding to hunt down some individual tracks where I'm not interested in buying the whole album]
Annie - several tracks off Anniemal
Ladytron - several tracks off 604 and Light & Magic
Armand Van Helden - "U Don't Know Me" and "Flowerz"

4. [spontaneously deciding it's about time I finally checked out Derek Bailey]
Derek Bailey - Improvisations (all tracks)

5. [remembering I've been curious about Robert Rich but put off by all the New Age hoo-haw]
Robert Rich - Below Zero (all tracks)
still haven't listened to it

6. [remembering that ever since the recent Imogen Heap thread, I've been trying to find Todd Rundgren's "Pretending to Care," off the mid-80s album _A Capella_]
They don't have it, but they have a cover of it by a band called The Unherd.

That's 50 tracks, and I've unsubscribed. Part of the challenge is that I'm just not a music downloader, so anything I *really* want, I want on CD. The eMusic process was all about remembering things I *sort of* want.

National Roffle Association (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 19 December 2005 03:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

pretty classic. i also subscribe to rhapsody as well, so those two combined give me a pretty massive advantage. i stream onto my work PC that i sit at for 60ish hours a week rhapsody when i need it and use emusic to purch a lot of tracks i want to burn etc. (or when rhaps doesn't have the stuff over on emusic.)

rhaps usually covers my nostalgic needs... you know, when some friend goes, "dude krokus!" i can actually give krokus a listen and leave it at that without spending much more than a few cents i suppose. etc etc. old hip hop records i never bought but have radio taped mixes of, etc etc.

one by one, emusic has steadily brought lot's and lot's of "want list" labels onboard. i never thought i'd see tzadik come, but here they are. or dischord. touch and go! shit, those dudes charge out the wazoo for their records at the store, but here they are! emusic has really become kind of a paradise for back catalog siftings. i keep hoping drag city will come, but they seem pretty stiff on such things. (do they do itunes even? i'm too lazy to fire up itunes right now.)

as far as i'm concerned, services like emusic are saints for kicking DRM to the curb and letting us be honest fans. (for now anyway. legislation always pending in one form or another.)

m.

msp (mspa), Monday, 19 December 2005 03:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
Classic. $20/month for 90 songs/month at the moment (you can go cheaper, but you have to do a whole year at once) plus no freaking DRM.

Certainly far from having everything I want, but I've already downloaded tons of stuff I've been fiending for for a while.

Also great to have for making my wedding mixes.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ha ha, I turned you!

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So many of my Saved albums are classical things on labels like bis, Harmonia mundi, aeon, and bridge, and I assume those are indie enough to still be there in the morning.

Bummer to lose sony and warner though.

von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Friday, 26 September 2014 23:55 (three years ago) Permalink

as a grandfathered non-US type i expect the catalogue will look entirely unchanged to me.

it is probably a bit much to dream that Orchard-distroed labels will return but hope springs eternal

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Saturday, 27 September 2014 00:02 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm sure they were margin squeezed on the major label releases (eg 0.89 / track at eMusic vs. 0.99 at Amz vs. 1.29 at iTunes).

I haven't forgotten the reason tracks are 0.89 vs the earlier 0.49 is so eMusic could woo the majors.

There's so much "meh" on my saved list I'm sorely tempted to drop.

Felt up by Adam Smith's invisible hand (Sanpaku), Saturday, 27 September 2014 02:21 (three years ago) Permalink

still plenty of major label stuff on the site - anybody know anything deeper about what's going on here?

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:57 (three years ago) Permalink

It changed today. Universal is gone, warner is gone. Sony still there, though! Maybe they have the best terms. I seem to recall they were the first major emusic got...

All the large indie classical labels I checked for are still there.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 29 September 2014 22:34 (three years ago) Permalink

Universal is gone

So ironically the new U2 album has been taken down from emusic?

john wahey (NickB), Monday, 29 September 2014 22:41 (three years ago) Permalink

ironically?

Starland Vocal Gland (sic), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 02:12 (three years ago) Permalink

Canceled my membership over the weekend. Found an album that got my balance down to zero (Horace Silver's The Cape Verdean Blues, for $4.74) and which is doubtless gone now - Blue Note being part of Universal/EMI.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 02:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh man- all the Blue Note is gone?! That sucks. At least I grabbed a bunch of the Silvers while they were available. Are they actually adding any new indies or just removing the major labels? My "Saved" list went from about 35 to 10. I may have to consider cancelling if they don't follow through on bringing in new labels to replace the majors.

o. nate, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:27 (three years ago) Permalink

It still annoys me that you can't carry your balance over from month to month. I have probably lost over $200 in credits because of that.

sarahell, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:44 (three years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

there is a split (albeit an unauthorized one) of MARS and Furious Pig on emusic!

sarahell, Thursday, 2 July 2015 21:56 (two years ago) Permalink

Merge is now on eMusic in the UK for indie rock fans

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 3 July 2015 09:19 (two years ago) Permalink

How much of that is Furious Pig?

Mark G, Friday, 3 July 2015 12:28 (two years ago) Permalink

wow, it's still going

PaulTMA, Friday, 3 July 2015 12:32 (two years ago) Permalink

Never mind, it's on Spotify, Merge and HMV digital as well!

Mark G, Friday, 3 July 2015 12:32 (two years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Anyone else noticed that a lot of new releases have been slow to appear on the site since the change to a Friday release day?

michaellambert, Monday, 5 October 2015 20:54 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't suppose they offer FLAC yet.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 5 October 2015 21:36 (two years ago) Permalink

No. Recently upgraded to 320kbps MP3 for new additions.

michaellambert, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:02 (two years ago) Permalink

My "Save for Later" list has eroded down to its smallest in 6 years membership (now: ~20 albums). Too many missing indie labels, and I'm more comfortable supporting artists through Bandcamp. Every booster credit sale just hastens my departure.

gate gate paragate parasamgate (Sanpaku), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:46 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

i think they finally are letting you carry over your unused account balance? like, as of a few months ago? or am I just imagining things

sarahell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Good grief.

I'm still hanging in! Independent classical & experimental labels is enough to soak my monthly credits up.

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Independent classical & experimental labels is enough to soak my monthly credits up.

Same here, but I tend to do things like not feel like "buying" anything for a month and a half, and then wanting to get a bunch of stuff, and end up getting booster packs, and resenting the fact that the credits didn't carry over.

sarahell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:37 (two years ago) Permalink

I buy boosters whenever there's a sale on them

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:45 (two years ago) Permalink

The intention to "roll eMusic into the MyMusicCloud service" doesn't sound initially too promising for my continued membership, but shall wait and see.

http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/emusic-acquired-by-cloud-computing-firm-triplay/063193

michaellambert, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:09 (two years ago) Permalink

i think they finally are letting you carry over your unused account balance? like, as of a few months ago? or am I just imagining things

This has not been the case with my account

Walter Galt, Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:02 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure what "roll eMusic into the MyMusicCloud service" means, but I'm hoping it means that basically nothing changes, except that if you want to, you can stream your purchases through the cloud (in addition to just playing the MP3s you still get to keep).

o. nate, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:45 (two years ago) Permalink

That is my hope. I'm just a pessimist who expects something different to happen.

michaellambert, Thursday, 22 October 2015 09:26 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah... No files that come live on my computer forever, no deal.

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:09 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Streaming is live and works flawlessly; redownloads are coming. There's a 2x booster pack sale on right now.

aaaaablnnn (abanana), Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:45 (one year ago) Permalink

I should probably test it out again right before saying that -- there's some server problems today.

aaaaablnnn (abanana), Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:50 (one year ago) Permalink

do you work there? just curious

sarahell, Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:53 (one year ago) Permalink

no, just a long time member

aaaaablnnn (abanana), Thursday, 31 December 2015 21:03 (one year ago) Permalink

There have been a lot of billing issues as they've tried to upgrade that side of their systems after the takeover. Having said that the streaming has worked perfectly on the couple of occasions I've tried it and from what I can see the new owner is taking customer support and site functionality more seriously than their predecessors.

treefell, Thursday, 31 December 2015 22:46 (one year ago) Permalink

it would be great if it didn't keep automatically downloading the installer exe file every time i buy something

sarahell, Thursday, 31 December 2015 23:55 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

anyone still using eMusic?
they've just redesigned the website and seem to have changed business model as well but I still have a 10year-old subscription that allows me download a certain amount of mp3's for a couple of bucks every month. So they still do that too for the moment.
But their catalogue is terrible. Loads of labels are simply not involved, I get that. But even for the labels that are on the site you just have to wait if a particular release will show up. Just some examples: new Sorority Noise album. Every other release on the label is on there and even some recent SN singles but not the album (actually, it wás at some point but now it disappeared again). Also: Toitoitoi. On Ghost Box. Label is available on the site. Record is out. It's on Spotify and 7Digital. But not on eMusic.
This is not new buy the way. I've got a folder in gmail of me e-mailing labels asking when a particular record will be on eMusic and them answering back, hm, it should be on there, let me check with the distributor.
The last few years I've been finding it harder and harder to spend my credits each month.

Joris Stereo, Friday, 12 May 2017 14:51 (six months ago) Permalink

i'm still using it. It's always been great for classical music and continues to be. I don't get much rock/pop stuff there anymore though it continues to be my way of buying new Robyn Hitchcock and Fall releases (though yes the last Fall one took a looong time to show up on eMu. Between new releases on classical and film score labels and archival/reissue electronic and kraut/kosmische type stuff I don't have a problem using up my 24 bucks a month.

I'm not clear yet on how the new model is different other than the site redesign.

fish louse (Jon not Jon), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:21 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm amazed that emusic still exists. Used to love them. It's like finding out that there's a big market for 78s. In all seriousness, I got an astounding amount of great music from this service. A billion years ago.

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:49 (six months ago) Permalink

I was over the moon in 2002 when eMusic began hosting all the old Daniel Johnston tapes, just weeks after me getting into him and thinking I'd have to order all these import cassettes

PaulTMA, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:51 (six months ago) Permalink

My wishlist slowly shrinked with all the dropped labels until I gave up on my grandfathered (+bonus credits) account in 2015. Feel better about supporting artists through bandcamp, too.

baby, we don't love you baby, we don't love you baby, yeah (Sanpaku), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:23 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm amazed that emusic still exists. Used to love them. It's like finding out that there's a big market for 78s. In all seriousness, I got an astounding amount of great music from this service. A billion years ago.

― dlp9001, Friday, May 12, 2017 1:49 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ooh owned

fish louse (Jon not Jon), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:53 (six months ago) Permalink

It's clear that they've been barely keeping the site ticking over since they decided to switch their backend to 7digital and putting all their effort into the new site.
It looked from the beta test that a lot of content that should have been on the site for months (new releases from Sub Pop as one example) would appear after the switch over.
Then the launch happened and labels like Sub Pop, Warp, Bella Union suddenly have no or very little in the catalogue. There's been no real explanation as to why this stuff hasn't appeared in the new live site but also no fanfare of new and returning labels. As a UK user it's very nice to see nearly 400 records turn up from Domino after years away.
There are a lot of disgruntled older users out there and I don't really see why anyone new would want to join up but I'm hopeful that once they sort their content issues out it will continue to be more than worth the money I pay for it.

treefell, Friday, 12 May 2017 19:51 (six months ago) Permalink

I've been a member since 2008. I've come close to cancelling a few times, what with the constant turnover in labels, sometimes it takes a while to find things you want. I just went there today and saw they've completely redone the site and it looks like half my wishlist has vanished - victims of label turnover I guess. It was great when you could get Blue Note jazz records from the '60s and major-label stuff. I almost cancelled after that disappeared, but then I found enough independent-label metal to keep me going. Now, I get most of that from Bandcamp, which has much better selection, so I'm not sure if I'll stick with eMusic much longer.

o. nate, Saturday, 13 May 2017 01:00 (six months ago) Permalink

Looks like they've added a bunch of avant-jazz labels: HatHut, ESP, Tzadik. I may have to start listening to that kind of stuff again.

o. nate, Saturday, 13 May 2017 01:05 (six months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Anyone want to help me with some Tzadik recommendations? I basically stopped paying attention around 2000.

o. nate, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:01 (three months ago) Permalink

Every time I see this thread bumped I expect a link to a news article saying they've finally folded.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:57 (three months ago) Permalink

hmm, I've been disappointed by recent Tzadik albums I've tried. Anything written by or featuring Zorn in the last 15 years seems to be an aimless mess.

I like these from after 2000:

Kayo Dot, Choirs of the Eye, 2003
Wadada Leo Smith, Lake Biwa, 2004
the Scott Johnson reissue, John Somebody
Ayelet Rose Gottlieb, Mayim Rabim, 2006

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 04:18 (three months ago) Permalink

I don't have any interest in the no-wave improvisational klezmer punk side of the label, but I have dipped into their New Music offerings. IIRC, I liked:

Maryanne Amacher - Sound Characters, Sound Characters vol. 2
Alvin Curran - Animal Behavior, Theme Park, Lost Marbles, Shofar Rags
Arnold Dreyblatt - Animal Magnetism, Who's Who In Central & East Europe 1933
Annie Gosfield - Burnt Ivory and Loose Wires, Lost Signals and Drifting Satellites, Almost Truths And Open Deceptions
Lukas Ligeti - Mystery System, Afrikan Machinery
Lois Vierk - River Beneath the River
The Cracow Klezmer Band - Balan: Book of Angels Vol.5, Remembrance

The latter group could be described as Penderecki does klezmer, and may get me into the genre yet.

tactical piñata (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 04:50 (three months ago) Permalink

last month I got every single Haydn Symphony from here for like $6.99 ...

sansa riff (sarahell), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 06:24 (three months ago) Permalink

The Morton Feldman Patterns in a Chromatic Field on tzadik is fantastic.

Also, emusic has reverted to certain albums which are one long track being priced super cheap. I just got two Feldman chamber music albums on Bridge Records for like a buck each.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 11:39 (three months ago) Permalink


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