this is the thread where the ILM massive teach mark s a *LESSON*

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Anyway, I never tire of recommending Oum Kalthoum's Robaiyat el Khayam.

― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 10 May 2003 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know what I expect you to learn from it though.

― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 10 May 2003 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

Or listen to Louie Ramirez y Sus Hermanos, especially for "En un Beso la Vida," if you want something more immediately catchy. Take note of the brilliant delayed entry of the timbales. Admire the remarkable vocals of Azuquita which bing-bong around like an old fashioned pin-ball machine.

― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 10 May 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

(btw RS have you seen that Keely Smith is doing a NYC residency? thought of ya whn saw that)

― H (Heruy), Saturday, 10 May 2003 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, Martin... Haven't heard "The Bells," but if you like high drama weeping in your R&B, you might want to check out Jackie and the Starlites. The "hit" is called "Valerie," though the formula is more or less applied to every other song they do. More comical than sad, but I've never heard anything quite like it... I'll look for "The Bells"...

― flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Sunday, 11 May 2003 03:20 (twenty years ago) link

It's certainly on a Billy Ward & the Dominoes comp that I have, but you have to be careful as there are comps of, for instance, only the stuff with Jackie Wilson on vocals. That's all worth having too, of course.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 11 May 2003 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

Freddy Fender, "Wasted Days & Wasted Nights"

― dave q, Sunday, 11 May 2003 11:28 (twenty years ago) link

...or anyway some small thing abt something

so the suggestion:
Garmarna's Hildegard von Bingen alb (2001)

or if you should not care to listen to the entire record -- seven weird-to-wonderful folk'lectronic reworkings of the saintly abbess's songs + one a cappella + one original Garmarna instrumental; 'bout forty minutes all in all -- then take just one track, "Unde Quocompque"
that one 'has it all', more or less: bumping house-y beats and subdued micro-pulses, violin & hurdy-gurdy hoedowns, Emma's angelic plainchantin' & vocoder vox -- alternately or simultaneously

i dunno whether it'd change your views on Hildegard or Garmarna (in case you have any), but it could incline you to think different 'bout, say, Enigma's take on pop+medieval

...Garmarna's Hildegardiana should be downloadable, i supppose - if not, i can make you a cd-r

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 12 May 2003 14:09 (twenty years ago) link

i. julio today i found yr tape after exactly 3 seconds of looking, right in the middle of the shelf where i looked abt 4567878 times before = the work of the 50000000-yr-old alien martian goblins of hob's lane
ii. remind me was it LICK MY DECALS?
iii. i am back in action and thinking abt stuff on this thread (eg FREAK OUT at the moment, since i actually own it)
iv. don't stop till i get enough (obv i shall have to supply at least some comeback)
v. once again thx all, i am going to get my slsk chops in order soon and then hob's yr uncle

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 18 May 2003 12:42 (twenty years ago) link

yes it was lick my decals. on both sides. the remaining 5 mins was taken up with a secret extra track for you to guess (you have talked abt this track before on ILM, um maybe not this exact one track but you have talked abt the artist and what he is doing, this is also taped on both sides).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 18 May 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

i. Jean-Luc Guillonet, Axene (Groundfault)
ii. Hate Eternal, King of All Kings (Earache)
iii. Chaotic Dischord, "Fuck Religion, Fuck Politics, Fuck the Lot of You"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 18 May 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

(I don't know who Keely Smith is, H.)

― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 18 May 2003 17:14 (twenty years ago) link

'Kind of Blue', 'A Love Supreme'

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Sunday, 18 May 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link

sir lord baltimore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― duane, Sunday, 18 May 2003 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

Mungo Jerry's "Tramp"

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

Keely Smith was a smooth old jazz singer who was married to and worked with the mighty Louis Prima, until he caught her "performing s sex act on" (I can only think of one thing anyone would describe thus) an agent, I think it was.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 18 May 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

the version of that story i heard had this guy doing it w. keely & then he became aware of someone LICKING HIS BALLS, he turned round & Louis Prima punched him in the face

― duane, Sunday, 18 May 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link

best breakup story evah!

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 18 May 2003 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

oh man. I had no idea that's how Prima and Keely Smith broke up. That's...ugh. me no like that story.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 18 May 2003 22:04 (twenty years ago) link

this is not the lesson i wz expecting so DUANE WINS!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:24 (twenty years ago) link

it's in a tosches book, good stuff

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:28 (twenty years ago) link

Interstellar Space by John Coltrane and Rashied Ali since you seem to have dismissed St John (which is pretty understandable if you've ever read anyone write about him or if you've ever been stuck in a room with someone talking about how spiritual A Love Supreme is).

― hamish (hamish), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:40 (twenty years ago) link

well, if spirituality = dull, i guess. i agree. that record is annoying anyway. add full muso desription of what a giant step giant steps is, and why ad infinatum.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

that record is annoying anyway.

Which one? Interstellar Space or A Love Supreme?

― hamish (hamish), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:31 (twenty years ago) link

i already like interstellar space hamish, but i will relisten and write about it i promise

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

albert ayler does not make spirituality dull tho'.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

where you stand on Sandinista! is thee acid test. What's the sinkah-view?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

agree julio. its the conception of spirituality that certain a love supreme apologists feel obliged to weary you with that's dull.

ALS hamish.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 19 May 2003 12:09 (twenty years ago) link

love supreme apologists? spirituality or no, what is there to apologize for about one of the most unique and intense bands in jazz (or anything else) throwing down?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 May 2003 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.piratehaven.org/~beej/pirates/images/pyle/plank.jpg

ILM teaching mark s a lesson.

― Rockist Scientist, Monday, 19 May 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

You may never get to it but the Luda album is in fact named "Back For The First Time".

"Southern Hospitality" is just the great single from it.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 1 June 2003 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

mark please write ten paragraphs about limp bizkit f method man - 'n2gether now' !!

― trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

At the FAP on Sunday I added Amnesiac to mark's list.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:34 (twenty years ago) link

Mark, did you ever listen to the Rough Guide tape I sent you (A Rough Guide to Music the Rough Guide Wouldn't Touch with a Ten-Foot Pole)? Not that I'd expect it to change you, but I want to know who you think rocks harder, Celine or LeAnn.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

i only ever listen to things i think i'm going to write about (this isn't true)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

do da real one next

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:52 (twenty years ago) link

trife has it on vinyl

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

i told mark i would make a tape for him next after minnas dirty south tape!! if he cant find da real one and limp bizkit by then i will put them both on!!

― trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 June 2003 23:22 (twenty years ago) link

teaching mark s a *LESSON* response one: ZAPPA

teaching mark s a *LESSON* response two: DE LA SOUL

teaching mark s a *LESSON* response three: FUNKADELIC

(i'm gonna try and do some nice short ones next)

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 15 June 2003 14:05 (twenty years ago) link

teaching mark s a *LESSON* response four: LOUIS PRIMA

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 22 June 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

five months pass...

(this is not defunct just helladelayed btw as i have an actual real project w.a deadline)

response five = tyrannosaurus rex/unicorn but don't hold yr breath (sorry lady lurex)

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

Fun fact re 'my' submission - it's not produced by Sandy Pearlman

― dave q, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

So are you grooving on the new Tull XMAS album, Dave?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.stalk.net/paradigm/images/06.jpg

― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

NRBQ
Ted Hawkins
The Soul Rebels
All three will make you think about music...differently

― Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Thursday, 27 November 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...

having good reasons doesn't stop me feeling bad abt how this got sidelined :(

i still hope to return and deliver smore one day

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 25 September 2004 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link

If I can get my tape deck working properly, I will try to do you a tape of those I cite above. And maybe some other people's, if I have room and the tunes. It'll be an enjoyable tape even if you don't write about it.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Of the tracks nominated I can only find Shaky Mo's Johnny Otis and Ethan's Limp Bizkit/Method Man choices. And I'll add something by the Rebirth Brass Band, suggested by Jordan, too.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

i have limp bizkit/method man

also i have access to slsk these days!! i am currently d/l-ing yard on yard of gryphon!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Heavens, man, if you have slsk and need music we shall provide.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

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