Siouxsie Sioux's voice...

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After listening to several live Banshees recordings, I believe the nicest thing I can say is, "Hmm, rough around the edges."

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 May 2003 20:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I still like some of the songs, but I have less and less patience with her voice with each passing year.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 1 May 2003 20:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Are you both insane?

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 1 May 2003 20:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The studio is often your friend. It is very often her friend, and yet her voice is still utterly wondrous and is perhaps most so with the Creatures, actually.

That said I still think Nocturne is possibly the Greatest Live Album Ever That Isn't Something Else I Might Be Forgetting Right Now And Yes I Know James Brown Live At The Apollo Is The Standard Answer For Good Reason But That Need Not Be The End-All And Be-All...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 May 2003 20:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

She can't sing well, in conventional/technical terms, and her compensations for it aren't interesting enough to make up for that lack, so no I'm not insane.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 1 May 2003 20:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It's a pouty yelp.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 1 May 2003 20:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think her voice is less effectively judged as "singing" and more effectively judged as "melodic oratory." (That's not even a joke, either.)

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"vocal theatre" was the term I was going to use.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I truly never thought I'd be motivated to actually use this phrase but....

SIOUXSIE ROXXX, U R ALL GAY!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

her voice is great, it's the lyrics that are crap.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Don't get me wrong, I still LOVE The Banshees; "Night Shift" has been rocking my world for the past two weeks. HOWEVER, whatever she does when she sings the words "night shift" is deeply, deeply unsettling; I now understand why she had to stop singing for a while or face losing the ability to speak. She's a textbook case of how to get nodes on your vocal chords.

Also, comparing what she did on the live version of "Land's End" (aka One Of The Most Gorgeous S&TB Songs Evah) to the studio version shows some SERIOUS studio influence.

HAVING SAID ALL THAT: siouxsie roxxx i amn't all gay

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Siouxsie Sioux is fantastic. However, Karen O is her fault, so I'm thinking of revising my stance.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The lyrics are crap, but some of the songs are still good.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 1 May 2003 22:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I was just passing through here - does that mean I'm gay too?

Davlo (Davlo), Thursday, 1 May 2003 23:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the jury's out on that one

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 2 May 2003 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Poly Styrene's the one for me. She sounds a bit like Siouxie, only better.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 2 May 2003 03:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It's totally an insult to the whole "poison roxx u r all gay" phenonema to call this thread gay because quite honestly it's TOTALLY BEYOND.

Her voice is great. It gives me chills. YOU ARE ALL MENTAL.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 2 May 2003 03:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I'm mental. I'm mad for it, me.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 2 May 2003 03:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

As regards listening to live Banshees recordings (or indeed studio ones I guess) it's very important to consider what period they come from. Siouxsie started to have all sorts of problems with her voice around (IIRC) '79/80 and basically was told that the way she'd been singing was rapidly destroying her vocal chords and that she had to learn to sing in a completely different way or she'd destroy her voice completely.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i love her voice now more than ever - i keep singing 'Happy House' in my head and i had to download a whole loada Banshees the other week and just grabbed a load of album tracks - i might have to get some Creatures next.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

my recent memory of Siouxsie is her on TV saying she didn't 'think James Dean Bradfield has that nice a voice at all, actually' or words to that effect, heh

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

A great singer is a singer who can interpret a song, and live it, as it's meant to be.

So yes, Siouxsie IS a great singer in her own way.

Technically perfect singers are incredibly boring on the whole - it's textbook singing, passionless. Give me rough round the edges any day.

russ t, Friday, 2 May 2003 10:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Damn you Stevem - I can't seem to stop singing "Happy House" in my head either now!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Hong Kong Garden - that's such a funny lyric. "Chicken chow mein" - hard to sing in a Siouxie Sioux voice while holding a straight face, but she manages it.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 2 May 2003 11:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Go back and listen to "Cities in Dust." Those vocals pin me to the floor.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

...her voice on 'Melt'.....beautiful.
...and 'Last Beat of my heart'.

russ t, Friday, 2 May 2003 14:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Can we pay attention to the context of the original remarks?

"AAfter listening to several live Banshees recordings,..."

Her voice is absolutely gorgeous on the studio albums, especially many of the songs listed here ("Last Beat Of My Heart" SWOON!). HOWEVER, she does some really ugly things with her voice on the newest live album. Sometimes it works well ("Metal Postcard"!!!!). Sometimes it's horrifying ("Land's End").

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 May 2003 21:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I saw some book that had pictures of Siouxsie performing back in tthe olden days. Apparently she liked to play show with her tits out.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Friday, 2 May 2003 21:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

She also sported a swastika, but that was "just to shock the squares," apparently.

nickn (nickn), Friday, 2 May 2003 23:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Didn't all the british punkers sport swastikas back then? Besides the Clash of course.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Friday, 2 May 2003 23:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dan, I got the original context of remarks and agree with ya.

Don't know why ppl are having a hard time seperating Siouxsie album version from Siouxsie live.

H (Heruy), Saturday, 3 May 2003 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

my .02:
Siouxsie is a Goddess with the voice of an evil angel. Speaking of her in anything but a tone of reverence is an act of heresy. What some think of as her weaknesses are actually her greatest strengths. Bow down before her and beg for her forgiveness, thou philistine infidels.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 3 May 2003 00:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Custos OTM.

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 3 May 2003 01:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The rough edges of her voice are EXACTLY what makes it work sooooo welll. Its a "Queen Titania voice": Its both Elfin *and* authoritative. Like a pixie all growed up and vocal cords tinged with vodka burns.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 3 May 2003 01:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

oh come on, thas a bit rich

H (Heruy), Saturday, 3 May 2003 01:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yep. Like coffee with just a bit of irish cream.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 3 May 2003 12:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Like she recorded in Heaven and sent the tapes to hell for mastering.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 3 May 2003 13:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Subthread: How does Gitane Demone compare? Any opinions?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 3 May 2003 14:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Okay, I listened to _Nocturne_ again and it's just age; back in 1982 she could still belt like a champ, but she's really, REALLY struggling on _The Seven Year Itch_ (compare the versions of "Night Shift" to see what I'm talking about). So, I backpedal slightly.

Also, how the hell have I lived my life thus far without ever hearing "Icon"???????

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 11 May 2003 11:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Helltime, I saw Siouxsie & the Banshees last year and I can attest to the fact that she sang in her bra (black with rhinestone cups) for the last half of the set. And she looked fabulous. (And she was 45 years old at the time.) Oh, and the show itself was just as sharp.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 11 May 2003 12:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I was at that show (Roseland, Jeanne?) and as much as I love her/them, we left early.

Siouxsie & the Banshees Reunion - a Review.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 11 May 2003 14:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Heh, I wonder if this new live recording I heard is the Roseland show? It's definitely from the same tour.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 11 May 2003 16:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

How did I miss that thread the first time around? I was wanting to go to that gig; now I am glad my laziness and forgetfulness prevented me from attending.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 12 May 2003 01:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

If the recording was the new live cd (due later in May, I think), then it's the July 9th, 2002 concert from the Shepherds Bush Empire in London.

Should I not buy it and stick with Nocturne then?

Paz, Monday, 12 May 2003 03:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

New Siouxsie video for the track: Into a Swan on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-vN9wYLls8

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ALRIGHT!!

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I hope to be reviewing it for the new Plan B.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This should get its own thread, really, but in the meantime here's the cover:

http://www.untiedundone.com/graphics/mantaraycover.jpg

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

grrr http://www.untiedundone.com/graphics/mantaraycover.jpg

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

God, she's gorgeous.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the music reminds me of Depeche Mode

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This is the kind of single that without sounding like 'OMG best thing evah' really wets my appetite for the album. I really like the tabla break, makes me wonder how a collab with Timbaland would sound.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

P'fork review is out. Just bought tickets to see her in October. Bring it on.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 12:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

she stormed out of the interview with MOJO this month. changed her press officer because of it. makes for a fascinating read.

pisces, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

link?

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It's a commanding, accusatory, stentorian voice rather than a pleasant melodic one. It basically forces SATB's to follow the thematic route that they've always taken. Which I like a lot.

I never had her down as a looker, though.....

PhilK, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

i just read that Ned interviewed Siouxsie today !

djmartian, Monday, 4 February 2008 22:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like to imagine that the exclamation point is pronounced "stop"

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 00:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I did indeed interview Siouxsie today. Only for a short period of time, but a good interview, some interesting answers. The story will run next week in the OC Weekly.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 01:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Nice work, my son.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 02:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

You made it bro!

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 07:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Naturally you asked how Budgie is?

Bob Six, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 07:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Indeed, good work there, Mr R.

As for her voice--she's pretty challenged pitch-wise. Even i the studio she's always on the verge of drifting a bit off, but in the studio, that also adds to the drama/anxiety of listening to her.

The timbre of her voice is what's awesome/disturbing/hot.

i, grey, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 17:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Naturally you asked how Budgie is?

Har har.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 17:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

My feature is up.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

I saw an awesome young Siouxsie/Banshees cover band over the weekend - a trio, with the lead singer handling Severin's bass lines as well - and my friend and I agreed she sounded as good as the original.

German Disco Songsmith (Dan Peterson), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:01 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

"Love Crime", her first song in eight years, was featured in the finale of the TV series Hannibal, broadcast in August 2015. Series creator Bryan Fuller, who had contacted her in November 2014, described the collaboration with Brian Reitzell as "epic". On 4 December, "Love Crime (Amuse-Bouche Version)", was made available via download stores as a digital-only single.

Completely passed me by. Hopefully more new work to follow.

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=G-Apl5jEWBM

ilxors ananimus (onimo), Monday, 11 January 2016 20:36 (three years ago) Permalink

this is great

Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Monday, 11 January 2016 20:39 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-siouxsie-siouxs-haunting-hannibal-finale-song-love-crime-20150831

"Siouxsie hasn't even stepped foot in a studio for eight years, and she said that this piece was the first thing that she heard that inspired her to do anything," Reitzell said. "And the good news is that I'm going to do a few more tracks with her. I've written a few more, and we’re not sure how we're going to release the track, and that's kind of unfortunate, but it will be out."

ilxors ananimus (onimo), Monday, 11 January 2016 21:30 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Isolated vocal from The Killing Jar

https://youtu.be/SHf6lrrlLnk

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:36 (two months ago) Permalink


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