METAL for ART-metallers

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I thot i'd put this on it's own thread, having delusions of grandeur and all, like i do:
i like ART-metal - everytime i delve into REAL-metal i come out disappointed.
what i like is: phantomsmasher, kevorkian solution, khanate, earth, meshuggah, luttenbachers, orthrelm, crom-tech / octis, harry pussy, electric wizrd's "dopethrone" (but definitely not the one that came after that), melvins, upsilon acrux, stretchheads, mats& morgan, circle, ruins, buttholes circa "locust..", fushitsusha, fuckhead, naked city, faxed head (to a degree!), etc.
anaal nathrakh would be good if they didn't sound so danny elfman and the guy did wOnkier solos.
harkonen almost make it as do craw - v.close.
gorguts "obscura" sounds really grey and ordinary to me.
does REAL metal hold secrets of time signatures & psychedelic mentalisms? or is it all verse chorus verse middle 8 while grown men act "games workshop"?

bob snoom, Thursday, 24 April 2003 12:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't put a lot of what you listed above as metal.

harry pussy => no wave-ish

fushitsusha => psych blues

naked city => art thrash metal ;-)

but most of what i've heard from this list is far better than any metal I've heard.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 12:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Esoteric are about as psych as metal gets. I like their Metamorphogenesis album best. Google their webpage, it has full streams of every album. Maybe check out Burzum's Filosofem as well.

And Julio = blasphemer!

original bgm, Thursday, 24 April 2003 14:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ho ho!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 14:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Check out Frederick Thordendal's Special Defects fo' sure and Cynic, maybe even recent Death.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 April 2003 14:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Julio: The streets will run red with the blood of the unbelievers!

original bgm, Thursday, 24 April 2003 15:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 15:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

hahahaha... next time Julio... next time.

original bgm, Thursday, 24 April 2003 16:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Also, I'm not exactly a big fan but my friends LOVE the Devin Townsend solo albums and they kind of remind me of a metal MBV. Much more pop than anything mentioned on this thread, too.

original bgm, Thursday, 24 April 2003 16:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I was actually thinking of Devin Townsend for this thread, and that made me go download the new Strapping Young Lad album. Devin's cool, he's got some humor in some of his stuff and very personal production style (HUGE wall of sound).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 April 2003 16:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm keen to see what Isis is up to.

umm, Sleep, Boris, Lightning Bolt...

Ruins rule!

autovac (autovac), Thursday, 24 April 2003 17:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

since this thread is probably going to go nowhere fast, has anyone heard that adris hoyos/weasel walter collaboration? burned flesh or something similar?

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 24 April 2003 17:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The verse/middle 8/chorus structuring in metal has pretty much disappeared since '85 hasn't it? OK, apart from all the retro thrash bands of the last half decade but that's why it's, well, retro...

Paradoxally it seems like it's never the "art" style (or "avantgarde", "experimental", "open minded" or whatever label they're marketed under) bands that kick off any real innovation, somehow all of them tend to fuck around with one or more styles in various interesting ways but never really progress. Napalm Death/Repulsion develop grindcore: three years later we have Naked City. Winter slows Celtic Frost down to a thick bleak sludge: a decade later, Khanate/Sunn 0)). NY hardcore emerges in the early 80s and borrows thrash riffs somewhere along the lines: Meshuggah twists and turns the concept nicely half a decade later. Possessed/Death/Morbid Angel establish death metal: Pan.Thy.Monium plays bizarre DM riffs with a saxophone six years later.

On the other hand, nothing really new has come out of metal in the last five, six years (compared to the abundance of new ideas in '85-'95) so maybe these kind of bands can live up to their promise of taking metal in a radical new direction.

But I can see why for lots of people 'real' metal isn't very interesting: invariably it is based on the presumption that the whole darkness/evil/long hair/beer/spikes&denim&leather/"Bang your head for Satan" paradigm is GOOD and should unapologetically be celebrated (explicitly or implicitly). Throughout the years the music has changed pretty dramatically, but every band keeps insisting it's all still done in the spirit of (insert old 70s/80s metal band X). If that's a turnoff (and face it, it IS for most people who did not grow up thinking at some point in their life that Black Sabbath/Iron Maiden/Metallica/Morbid Angel is the coolest band on earth), it's not surprising that if they like the aesthetic side of metal, they'll go for bands that operate outside of the traditionalist metal paradigm but use its techniques, melodicism or structures.

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 24 April 2003 18:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

siegbran- appropos of nothing, what do you think of Viva Emptiness? I'm still getting used to it. don't know if i like it as much as Last Fair Deal...but i kinda say that about every new album. It took me a while to truly love Tonight's Decision as well, cuz the production, drums, and vocals through me off a bit.Katatonia are one of the few bands i can think of that i have to acclimate myself to with every release, but once i do they never leave my stereo. They keep me on my toes!

N.P.-Killing Technology!! art metal 87-style

scott seward, Thursday, 24 April 2003 18:56 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ooh, i thought of a record that kind of fits this thread - of cabbages and kings s/t 12". sounds like venom if they came from the new york noise/scum/art scene.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 24 April 2003 19:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Best art-metal project I can think of at the moment is Maudlin of the Well.

Mikhail Capone (Mikhail Capone), Thursday, 24 April 2003 22:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

re Khanate - I think the vox make it something else that perhaps they weren't intending, it sounds like Nazareth slowed waaay down, or maybe Bon Scott-era DC if you're feeling charitable, I know they were trying to get away from 'southern sludge' but it sounds more like Molly Hatchet than Crowbar ever did

also re Electric Wizard, yeah 'Dopethrone''s better than the new one, but "We the Undead" is great

dave q, Friday, 25 April 2003 08:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

And 'Return Trip' from 'Come My Fanatics' destroys all other Electric Wizard songs.

M Carty (mj_c), Friday, 25 April 2003 10:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i think most of us are curious to have uncovered the gems already, and the fucking champs, oxbow, and nomeansno i guess we can take as read. and i guess what i mean by "art-metal" is guitar music that is exhilarating w/out reference to (much) jazz or steve reichery.
bands i would be interested in guidance around are:
neurosis i just don't like much

bob snoom, Friday, 25 April 2003 16:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

tarantula hawk's latest is pretty good - actually everything i've heard has been, but the new one particularly so. muscular prog instrumental epics with heavy bass and synth work, not super-complex or anything; sort of an american version of magma's "de futura" with absolutely no jazz influences discernible. maybe. way more interesting than neurosis these days.

your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 25 April 2003 16:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

that khanate album was a waste of a cd-r

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

would anybody include old man gloom here?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Hmm, would you really call The Fucking Champs art metal? To me they're pretty much the worst of 80s metal done instrumentally. There's a few neat moments (These glyphs are dusty is pretty neato) but I find the band to just annoy me more and more.

Yeah, I know I'm supposed to have some ironic stance etc, but no way, I'm going to enjoy music because it moves me in some way, not because it's totally ironic, like, woah, where's my white belt.

As for art metal, hrmm, I'm surprised to see Gorguts maligned, as "Obscura" is one of my favorites as far as this is concerned.
As is Cynic's "Focus", which is a truly beautiful album, strangely enough, considering the band started out as yet another Florida death metal band. Be warned that this album has some "robotic vocals" that many people find absolutely disastrous.

I'll gladly second Maudlin of the well.
I know a lot of people who'd say Agalloch, so I'll mention them, though I personally find them about as interesting as Accept.

Sigh deserves a nice big mention, particularly the HAil Horror Hail and Ghastly Funeral Theatre albums. Take simplistic 80s metal ala Venom etc, then add a curious penchant for progrock and experimentation. It shouldn't work, but it does quite well. The latest album is quite good too, though it's more hardrocky, but chockful of "vintage synths", as ol' progists would put it.

Another pair that I personally don't care for, but that might be worth mentioning are Korova (now Korovakill) and Angizia.

But screw it all; just get some Bolt Thrower! *performs thrashing, headbanging and general stereotypical 'hessian' moves*

I honestly don't know if any of these bands will intrigue you mister, err, Snoom, given that most of the bands you mention tend to veer closer to hardcore, or at least doom metal and sludge.

Perhaps CSSO (clotted symmetric sexual organs) will tickle your fancy. Grindcore meets psychedelia.

Sorry for the dreadfully scattered style of this post, but it got written in increments while doing other things.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The last 30 seconds of "Angel Present" from the last Discordance Axis album is the most pummelling rock music I've ever heard.

Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Converge are my fave in this bag, and the new lickgoldensky.

Sasha Frere-Jones (Sasha Frere-Jones), Friday, 25 April 2003 19:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

old man gloom could fit, if isis do. but then it's a slippery slope towards neurosis.

your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 25 April 2003 19:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I like Agalloch. Their last one sounded like a bunch of metalheads who like Bark Psychosis. Good stuff. As is Discordance Axis' The Inalienable Dreamless and Old Man Gloom's Seminar III.

original bgm, Friday, 25 April 2003 19:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

But there ain't anything all that artsy about Discordance Axis outside of their lyrics/packaging, really. Just fast, brutal grind. As good as that type of thing gets, IMO.

original bgm, Friday, 25 April 2003 19:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Who needs variation, experimentation or progress when you've developed a style as insanely charismatic as Bolt Thrower has? Like Motorhead, they've struck gold and will NEVER change. And everyone's happy for that...

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 25 April 2003 21:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, siegbran, i have "realms of chaos" and i've never felt compelled to buy anything else.

as for agalloch...can't stand the vocals. that's the problem with most metal bands with non-shrieking/growling vocals, they're just awful. ved buens ende i like, despite the vocals.

your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 25 April 2003 23:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I like Origin.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 26 April 2003 15:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i find it most quizzical why the kevorkian solution aren't HUGE! they really are fantastic.

bob snoom, Saturday, 26 April 2003 16:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah i liked that track bob.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 26 April 2003 21:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i don't think the f.champs are being "ironic" or that they expect you to appreciate them in an "ironic" way.they have great pop tunes and they rock. orion was always my favourite metallica song anyhow.
what about KEELHAUL and the DAZZLING KILLMEN? i know nuffin baht'em innit.

bob snoom, Sunday, 27 April 2003 11:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Bob Snoom, you might be right. It's just that the last few times I mentioned my problems with them, people told me just that, "ohh, it's irooonic, man!"

I feel sort of silly for being part of this thread, as I realized that I'm not quite sure always what people mean when they're talking about art rock etc.
For me Morbid Angel's "Blessed are the sick" is much more artistic than say something like Converge or Boris (though I love both of those bands)

As for the "does REAL metal hold secrets of time signatures & psychedelic mentalisms?" question of the initial post.. Undoubtedly, though mainly the former... Psychedelia often strikes me as the opposite of what most metal bands want to do. Though bands like Esoteric certainly have delved into that direction.
I still say someone should send a bunch of Gong, Amon Düül II etc to Gorguts!
Come to think of it, to go back to Morbid Angel, I often find a lot of Trey's solosections to delve into psychedelia in a way. That guy is plain weird.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Sunday, 27 April 2003 12:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I still say someone should send a bunch of Gong, Amon Düül II etc to Gorguts!

how about we send them a muffin basket with some CDR copies of "yeti," "you," "tago mago," maybe the silberbart album. see what happens.

your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

someone should send gorguts some conlon nancarrow and ornette.
howabout SLAYER post "south of heaven" that's a whole buncha stuff i know nothing about.
and BURNT BY THE SUN is that all 4/4 in fast / slow? or do they get cyclical in a gastr del style (i am so going to fall asleep if they don't!)
THE (shockingly underexposed) KEVORKIAN SOLUTION i'll say it again - if you yrself want something interesting grind/ mathcore wise stick "grind365" in a search engine and y'll probly come up with the guy who can sell you their cd for peanuts.

bob snoom, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 11:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
....aaaahh... and as if by magic a bit of listless surfing turns up the fact that THE KEVORKIAN SOLUTION have a new cd out (i think they're trying to keep it secret or something!) it's called "allsymbolsarebastards" and i don't have it yet but boy am i overexcited about that only 5 engleesh ponds as well. hopefully moreof the same (more cartoony discordance axis except you can hear what they're up to, lofi ambient interludes, stop starty stop start).
I AM WONT TO GET OVER EXCITED. you go too and you get overcited ex! i cannae wait!

bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Bob Snoom, I am *still* convinced that you are FMM!

kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

what's FMM?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i can neither confirm nor deny until i know what FMM means

bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Fish Man Merman?
Full-on Mighty Morphin'?
Frumpy Middleaged Mum?
Finnish Meat Market?
Furtive Mincing Minnie?
Fat Monkey Molester?

bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:58 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

or all of the above?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i'm as guilty as a girl can be!

bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Now that someone revived this thread, could someone give me a clue on Art-Metal? I like Tool, Neurosis, Isis, Katatonia. Please, hold those raspy vocals...

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

This is one of the greatest ablums i have ever listened to brings true talent and amzing melodic riffs in to one cd.
With some of the most unbelievible drumming ever from the worlds greatest Sean Reinert(former death drummer).
If a fan of heavy ,melodic or plain talented music this is definately one to buy
Or if a drummer looking for a challenge listen to songs like urboric forms.
Not really for the nu metal sort of fan but for anyone who likes the different as this album will keep you listening for hours with extreme changes for heavy to melodic.
Over all one of the greatest ablums ever made.
One you must buy!!!
..................................oh, amazon! you do mked me gigle

bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Anyone heard Noxagt? No guitars but its Bass, drums and Viola. Heavy stuff. They're on the same label as Lightning Bolt, Pink & Brown etc.
Load Records

Raffles, Friday, 11 July 2003 18:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Taking a cue from American noise acts like Lightning Bolt, Pink and Brown and Death From Above, Noxagt (pronounced “noxact") leads the Nor-wave invasion with bass, drums and viola. Massively heavy while maintaining some of the pomp and bombast of Scandinavian metal, the trio creates a dark, vast wall of doom.Formed in Norway in 1999, originally as a solo project for bassist Kjetil D. Brandsdal, Noxagt became a power trio in 2001 with Nils Erga on viola and Jan Christian L. Kyvik on drums. The group subsequently released the Pantyland CD EP, a split 7" with Hellfire and a live 7", as well as appearing on four various artists compilations, two of which were included with the foremost experimental music magazine, Wire.Noxagt's full-length debut, Turning It Down Since 2001 — a relentless assault of deep grooves, pounding drums and viola noise — was released by Load Records in May of 2003.

Raffles, Friday, 11 July 2003 18:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

what exactly is 'Norwave' movement?

Raffles, Friday, 11 July 2003 18:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I see nobody mentioned Yakuza. I like 'em, even managed to sneak a review of their last CD into The Wire. Also, re Electric Wizard: I love Let Us Prey, but Come My Fanatics... is still the keeper from their catalog. I tried to like Boris, but fell asleep in the middle of Absolutego. Amplifier Worship has a few moments of nice crunchiness, though.

Don't like Ved Buens Ende, but definitely check out Fleurety - just as weird, but more developed and more interesting.

I love Isis, Orthrelm, and have even warmed up to the new Locust CD (though I don't think that's metal in any sense, but I love the keyboards).

Also, for non-metal noise-guitar kicks, check out the last CD by Raoul Bjorkenheim's Scorch Trio (can't remember title; it may not even have one).

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 11 July 2003 23:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Darkspace is awesome for that, too, but a different vibe.

rockapads, Sunday, 27 July 2008 17:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

man, I love that last time of orchids record. not sure that they were at all metal (esp. by that point), but THERE was a band that were doing their own thing. a shame they called it quits; they were at the height of their game.

I love how they took this fragmented, spazzy off-shoot of prog and made it into something so pretty and epic. I mean, they really make you work for it, but when a song climaxes, it can be pretty amazing. the "darling abandon" track that's streaming on paper thin walls is the perfect example. people should listen to that.

still bummed that I missed them open for koenjihyakkei. :-/

original bgm, Sunday, 27 July 2008 18:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

fucking great list of music up there from scott

Frogman Henry, Sunday, 27 July 2008 19:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

The best album I've ever heard for working to is Earth Pentastar. I can play it over and over and never get tired of it.

Nate Carson, Monday, 28 July 2008 00:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

Erik Davis wrote a great thing in the Voice, about art waltzing its way into metal, againe and againe: think the title was "Only A Northern Song," or close to that, and still in the online no doubt. Leave us not forget Mastodon, Nadja, Yakuza.

dow, Monday, 28 July 2008 04:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

New Velvet Cacoon double 'Atropine' announced for Oct/Nov on the Full Moon Productions site: "This album was carefully created over a four year period under the closely supervised influence of mandrake, hemlock, datura stramonium, henbane, belladonna and jesaconitine isolate. Most of the drone library was originally recorded to DAT and buried in the ground for two years before reviving them for use."

Soukesian, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

New album by Lustmord is pretty good. Arguably more conventional than previous releases, in that it doesn't sound like being pulled out of airlock into space, but identifiably him.

aldo, Thursday, 11 September 2008 08:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Finally got around to downloading "Where the black stars hang", which you recommended to me ages ago. Immense! Perhaps not metal as such, but a lot of the 'ambient' BM I've been listening to recently approaches a similar feel. I'd be surprised if Darkspace weren't fans.

Soukesian, Monday, 15 September 2008 15:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Soukesian, Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

Stunning clip, zero information, as per with Velvet Cacoon. Appears to be a track from the new VC CD. Could be a fanvid from found footage - if so, I'd like to know where they found it.

Soukesian, Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

can someone educate me about Ascend? There's one album titled "Ample fire within" here in the store.

Marco Damiani, Saturday, 6 December 2008 16:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's great and the best thing Greg Anderson has been involved with in years!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 6 December 2008 16:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

okay, I'm going to buy it NOW! : )

Marco Damiani, Saturday, 6 December 2008 16:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's more like sunn o))) than Goatsnake but better than the formers recent output. I think it's better than the Pentemple album.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Agreed Ascend is Greg's best stuff in years. It's with the Iceburn / Engine Kid guy. There's one track of swirly backwards guitar drone that is just outstanding. Worth buying.

New Velvet Cacoon? Psyched!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

New Velvet Cacoon . . real soon, according to their Full Moon Productions page. The vid almost makes me believe it's actually going to happen.

Soukesian, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ascend = great. I'm really loving this album.
ready to be blown away/ sucked in by the new Velvet Cacoon!

Marco Damiani, Monday, 8 December 2008 08:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

I have my copy of the new Velvet Cacoon "Atropine" double CD from Full Moon Productions - huge, absorbing ambient drones and tones, though I miss the driving-rain drum machine.

Their long-lost "P aa opal poere pr. 33" LP is finally out as a limited release from Starlight Temple Society, and my copy is ordered. I have two leaked versions, one with a really horrible Goth drum track, and one that's guitars only - be interested to see what they've settled on for the official mix.

Soukesian, Monday, 24 August 2009 19:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

What's good in the avant metal world lately?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 14 June 2010 17:33 (eight years ago) Permalink


Nate Carson, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

2nd or 3rd time ive seen them recommended on ILM in the past week.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hi Christopher,
I'm writing to inform you that we do not have Rotting Christ - Aealo on red vinyl. We do have it in stock on blue which we will gladly send you

peabo bison (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

did you purchase it?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 September 2010 22:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

New Agalloch album is imminent:

Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Monday, 27 September 2010 23:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

cant wait to hear it!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 September 2010 23:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hope it gets released on vinyl

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 15:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Really getting into Agalloch, thanks to the metal poll. The band achieve exactly what I always thought Black Metal should but never previously has for me, ie vividly evoking snow-bound forests and mountains.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 15:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

hurrah!! Success for the metal poll!! I hope everyone discovers lots of good stuff because of it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 15:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Is there any other BM I might like? Basically nothing too lo-fi. And I don't like blastbeats.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 15:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

You should ask on the actual poll thread, I think there's others more qualified there to help you. Do you like Absu?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Absu has blast beats iirc - amazing band, amazing drummer

sarahel, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've just checked out a couple of tracks, they sound interesting. Thanks. I'm cool with blastbeats in moderation actually. It's only when they go on for an entire song without variation that I find it tiring, like in lots of first wave BM stuff I've heard.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

youre looking for more atmospheric BM? Try Drudkh.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

New Drudkh is a bit more post-rockish, so I dunno if you would prefer that or the other stuff.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, they sound kind of like what I'm after. Plenty to be getting on with, cheers.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 23:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Tried real hard w/ the Vlevet Cacoons, but couldn't get into em. Sound great as background music, like having a thousand amplified cats purring at you, but there's no there there. It's just a pleasant tone, carried out for forty-some minutes. I have way too many "pleasant tone" records.

goddamnit this sounds so fucking incredible ^^^^

must seek out now

hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 21:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:05 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Not sure how 'arty' High on Fire are. Not that that's the article's biggest problem.

But now I know this thread exists I might use it to dump any and all weirdo-metal bands I discover that don't fit on the Branca-metal thread to the resounding indifference of all.

meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 25 June 2015 20:42 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Why didn't you?
What are the best Art-Metal albums of 2016 then?

Aluk Todolo - Voix
Oranssi Pazuzu - Värähtelijä
Schammasch - Triangle

what else?

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:23 (one year ago) Permalink

New Dysrhythmia is great:

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I've ordered that but dunno when it will arrive. a couple of weeks I think so not gonna listen to a stream and will wait for the CD but as I own all of their albums and liked them a long time I am looking forward to hearing it!

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Does it differ to the other albums, sund4r?

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Ha, I don't know their other albums tbh. I have one of Kevin Hufnagels' solo albums, which I like a lot. (Need to get the new one.)

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:27 (one year ago) Permalink

oh! Ive been a fan of them since the 2nd album. Mr HCI loves to annoy me with pics of his demo cdr he got when it came out. Ive never ever seen one on sale anywhere

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:32 (one year ago) Permalink

btw that Schammasch album I managed to get Mark S intrigued enough to listen to it a few months ago and he seemed to like some of it. So I really really recommend giving it a shot. It might be a bit over-ambitious but I find it quite rewarding to listen to.

It does help of course to listen to the album in 3 different sittings.
I have the triple lp so have a break inbetween each side so it feels more like listening to 3 different albums (which tbh it is)

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:41 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

"Swiftly following their Triangle triple album, Schammasch return with the first of a number of releases exploring the 19th century poetic novel, Les Chants de Maldoror by Comte de Lautréamont. Centred around a protagonist who opposes God and renounces morality’s conventions, this long-prose poem certainly lends itself thematically to an ambitious metal act"

Odysseus, Friday, 9 June 2017 21:19 (one year ago) Permalink

It has a bit of an industrial feel to it. Its short (32 mins) but very good.

Odysseus, Saturday, 10 June 2017 22:35 (one year ago) Permalink

black metal jazz!

Odysseus, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:15 (one year ago) Permalink

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