Billy Joel C/D?

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last night I was haunted by the spectre of the Piano Man: not only was Billy Joel the "guest musician" on American Idol last night, but he also provided a lot of the background tunes for this episode of "Freaks and Geeks" that I was watching.

Now, despite a childhood familiarity with "Glass Houses" and still being able to do an embarassing karaoke version of "Uptown Girl", I truly loathe this man. And yet, I couldn't help but agree with his own assessment of his "talents" when he said he was "competent". I think his whole line was that he was competent at writing, at singing, at arranging, etc., that he knew how to do all the necessary things that go into pop stardom... anyway, he's just always seemed like the less interesting, less difficult, American version of Elvis Costello to me, and gawwwd some of his lyrics are awful ("slowly gets stoned"? what the fuck is that supposed to mean?), everything's too nice and neat.

Am I missing something?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 21:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I am not going to claim he is classic, but he is definitely less dud that a lot of people would claim.

"The Stranger" was among the better AOR albums.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 21:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm shocked Geir, I expected you to come rushing to his defense... after all, he's so "melodic".

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 21:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't change the station if he comes on the radio (unless it's "Piano Man"), so mildly classic.

paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 21:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I truly loathe this man.

I think you speak for all of us.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

To me he's always been a good example of why the whole singer-songwriter movement threw a number of people off course. He wouldn't make a bad songwriter-for-hire, but he's a very heavy-handed singer and producer ("Piano Man" is about accurate as he reminds me of someone performing at a Rush Street piano bar). "Uptown Girl" and "The Longest Time" are pretty good tho as they force him away from his usual vocal schtick.

You do know he played piano on "Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)" now don't you?

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like the album An Innocent Man. He's still the Beatles-wanna-be misanthrope he's always been, but the dream of boinking a supermodel inspires him to be more joyful. "Uptown Girl" is wonderful. A joyful Frankie Valli rip that simmers with disdain ("she's got her toys!"). "Tell Her About It" is another victory march and "The Longest Time" is about as tender as he could get. A few other singles are decent (and "We Didn't Start The Fire" is one of the more interesting Don't Blame The Boomers songs), but overall he's pretty annoying. PRESSURE!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What is interesting about "We Didn't Start the Fire"?

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Raggett in kneejerk dismissal shockah.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It's catchy and most people miss the message of the song (the U.S. was fucked up before the hippies sold out) thanks to the history-rap. Plus it has the couplet "Rock and roller cola wars AND I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!"

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

My aunt and uncle have a copy of Billy Joel's Greatest Hits Vols. 1 and 2 and so do all of their friends, it's uncannily omnipresent in an ahem certain milieu. Also the theater advisor would play the whole thing on Saturdays while we were building sets. When you're forced to listen to something that much eventually you have to develop a relationship with it a little more complicated that pure antipathy.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Theater advisor in my high school, sorry.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

His uptempo songs are generally classic-ish, but his ballads
are genuinely icky.


Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Did anyone see that MTV special about the poor junior high school student whose dad used to play drums with Billy Joel and whose speech was peppered with phrases taken from Billy Joel songs?

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"We Didn't Start the Fire" = self-righteous cop-out + sad ripoff of "It's the End of the World And We Know It"'s lyric and vocal delivery.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'd also like to note that Billy Joel claimed to be a Suede fan in a Rolling Stone article.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

that's up to you, isn't it? I just think it's interesting. He also claims to hate most of the songs he's done. Which doesn't surprise me, as he seems to loathe everything.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 22:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Listening to Billy Joel can give you a heart attack ack ack ack ack

William R Henderson (Cabin Essence), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 23:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dud of all duds. "Competent"? Sure but also mind-bogglingly awful. More than an American Costello, he strikes me as an American Gilbert O'Sullivan or Leepy Lee -- one with the bonus disorder of thinking he's the American McCartney. The only "rock" star I might loathe more is Frank Zappa and for similar reasons: Both combine a complete absence of talent with enough self-righteous smugness to fuel the next space shuttle.

Burr (Burr), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 23:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

One of my friends said he knew someone they ended up getting a ride with Billy Joel once, and while in the car, Joel would not play anything except his music. Don't know if it's true, but I'd love to believe it was...

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

that sounds like a Prince anecdote, and like all Prince anecdotes, they sound even funnier when assigned to Billy Joel.

"Do you know who Billy Joel is?" Yes. "Good."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Attila, people.

hstencil, Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, I've heard that about Prince as well. With Joel (at least the way my friend was telling it), it was more an incessant, unsolicited "And here's something new I've been working on..."

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Raggett in kneejerk dismissal shockah.

Oh no, dear Amateurist. I've had well over twenty years to build up to that one. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

makes more sense when you add that it's new stuff. Looking for feedback makes more sense than wanting everyone to bask in the glory of "Big Shot" one more time.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Did you hear that Billy Joel's mom isn't really white?

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 17 April 2003 01:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I prefer his slower songs to his uptempo ones, actually. "Uptown Girl" is a stone classic, but "It's Still Rock and Roll to Me" is truly, truly awful. I like a whole lot of his 70's stuff when he sounded like an American Elton John. I adore The Stranger, "Just the Way You Are" included.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 17 April 2003 01:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

for some reason on "Uptown Girl" when Joel says "now she's looking for a backstreet guy" I keep expecting him to follow it with "and so am I!"

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 17 April 2003 01:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He deserves kudos for diversity
C'mon - Uptown Girl vs. Pressure vs. You May Be Right?
Also, can someone identify the BJ song about two high
school lovers who get a divorce? Nice uptempo song
with multiple boogie-woogie sections, always reminded
me of Ben Folds Five (who are totally classic).

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 17 April 2003 06:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I can't believe this is happening on ILXm

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Thursday, 17 April 2003 06:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well, Whitney, the reason it's happening is this:

When you're forced to listen to something that much eventually you have to develop a relationship with it a little more complicated that pure antipathy.

Truly OTM. Ned may have built nothing but hostility toward the man over the years, but most of us have had to also admit his good points at one time or another. And that creates confusion. He sucks. mostly, but not in some opressive, ubiquitous, meat-headed Phil Collins way. I'll admit, much of The Stranger still charms me, especially "Vienna" and "Movin' Out." They're little New Jersey symphonies, for all that's worth, which is admittedly not much. But at leat Billy Joel doesn't distance himself from his material -- he always honestly comes off as exactly the schlub that he is. And that's kind of admirable, though again, not much.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 17 April 2003 06:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Summer, Highland Falls" is fuckin awesome

TB, Thursday, 17 April 2003 06:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The version on "Songs in the Attic" especially. That's my favorite Billy Joel album, actually. Even the bad songs ("Los Angelenos," anyone?) re perfectly framed in their most appropriate setting -- small club when necessary, big stadium when necessary. And "Everybody Loves You Now" draws real blood.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 17 April 2003 06:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

can someone identify the BJ song about two high
school lovers who get a divorce?

I think that's "Scenes from An Italian Restaurant" from The Stranger. But that's not why I'm responding to this. I think all Billy Joel songs should from here on be referred to as BJ songs. That's hilarious.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 17 April 2003 06:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think his whole line was that he was competent at writing, at singing, at arranging, etc., that he knew how to do all the necessary things that go into pop stardom.

I'm coming in late to this thread, and rading it in pieces, so forgive if my responses are out of order of importance.

Did he really say that? When? Because that's perfect. If he can sum himself up in such an astute way, my respect for him has just jumped three notches.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 17 April 2003 06:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Did he really say that? When?"

He said it on Tuesday night's episode of American Idol, for which he provided the "music" (ie, they all just sang his songs). I thought it was a pretty honest self-assessment, actually. I still don't like him tho.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 April 2003 15:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

not in some opressive, ubiquitous, meat-headed Phil Collins way

I wouldn't be so sure about that. And as for that quote, it says nothing. I don't care if he's competent, for fuck's sake, I care if he (or anybody) does something that interests me, and he interests me only in the sense that I wouldn't mind browbeating him for all his albums-worth o' crap.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I used to think he was Neil Diamond pretending to be Bruce Springsteen.
I was wrong.
He's actually Barry Manilow pretending to be John Cougar Mellencamp.
And failing miserably.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

No one here likes Attila?

hstencil, Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

King of the Duds. I dare you to listen to "Pressure" 5 times in a row. You will become a murderer.

And "Uptown Girl" has this Nazi-step march ham-fisted oppression that top none other. I had his greatest hits I & II when I was in 7th grade, but just because I learned to play "She's got a way" for this girl I had a crush on. He is a miserable sod, on top of everything. He must hate life. He has his few, few moments, but on the whole, the most abhorrent artist I can bring to mind. Sorry.

see: Elvis Costello

Anyone seen "Movin' Out" yet?

david day (winslow), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

see: Elvis Costello
Hey, Hey, HEY! Lets have none of that. Comparing Billy Joel to Elvis Costello is like comparing Josef Stalin to JFK. The former is the problem, the latter is the solution.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

see: Elvis Costello

WTF? Have you ever heard Elvis Costello?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I dunno, often I sympathize completely with David there on both of them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Costello is the English Joel. I've just never gotten anywhere near this devotion people have for that lonesome, lonesome man.

Joel's addiction to WINE is also a bit sad. I mean, Christie won't even let him near the kids.

And that song "River Of Dreams"?

>quiver<

david day (winslow), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like Attila, HS--Do you own that LP?

die9o (dhadis), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

re: costello

i've own all those "great" records he's made and really really tried to like him. really. i tried. i failed.

Maybe BJ can help me out here:

I must be looking for something
Something sacred I lost
But the river is wide
And it's too hard to cross

indeed.

david day (winslow), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Costello is the English Joel.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Costello is the British David Byrne...on massive, near-toxic doses of methamphetamines. There is no similarity between Costello and Joel, except the fact that they have white skin and sing in English. Thats it.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

nope d!390, I haven't even heard it. But I'm at least cognizant that it exists...

I have a soft spot in my heart for "Pressure," "It's Still Rock n' Roll...," and the ultimate (wait for it)...

..."It's My Life." How can a guy who's song was used as the theme for "Bosom Buddies" be a dud?

hstencil, Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

...and really really tried to like him. really. i tried. i failed.
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Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 17 April 2003 16:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

WMJ: Hey, Henley, what's that thing you always say when you and Frey are wrapping up a tart reply to a stupid question?

DON: "Well, yeah"?

WMJ: WELL YA PICKED A FINE TIME TO LEAVE ME LUCILLLE. (LONG ISLAND COUNTRY, THAT'S RIGHT!)

pplains, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 01:47 (two years ago) Permalink


Billy Joel agreed to shift a Friday night show at Madison Square Garden to Saturday to make way for His Holiness.

(“What’s he going to say, no?” joked Mr. Cohen, who is also Mr. Joel’s production designer.)

pplains, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 09:19 (two years ago) Permalink

To quote Hunter Thompson quoting Stalin, "Fuck the Pope. How many divisions does he have?"

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 12:19 (two years ago) Permalink

The Swiss Guard doesn't stand a chance against the reformed Eagles.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 12:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Krokus says Bring It On! We've even got our own Joe!

http://i.imgur.com/RV1nw6s.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:44 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I'm not a fan, but I cobbled together a list of twenty songs.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:17 (two months ago) Permalink

Good list, but whither Laura?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALp9rfnPJ8c

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Friday, 14 July 2017 13:44 (two months ago) Permalink

the chip on his shoulder is his muse, for better or worse

good line. accurate.

happy to see you rate "don't ask me why" so high. curious as to your thoughts on the conspicuously missing "new york state of mind."

when is the damn billy joel poll happening?

fact checking cuz, Friday, 14 July 2017 15:53 (two months ago) Permalink

Whither "Pressure?"

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 14 July 2017 15:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Inspired by Alfred's blog post, I took Greatest Hits Vol. I & II out with me on last night's dog walk. I didn't really need to hear "Piano Man" ever again, and I never liked "New York State of Mind" even a little bit, but good call on the link between "Captain Jack" and "Walk on the Wild Side;" the song definitely feels like a suburban Lou Reed to me (probably why, as a teen, I always ID'd far more with it than any Lou I had heard at that point). "The Entertainer" is a lot of fun as well--the "it took me years to write it/they were the best years of my life" lyric is exactly what I'm assuming Alfred means by that "chip on his shoulder is his muse" line, and the clunkiness of "stuck on the shelf like another can of beans" is Billy at his most adorkable (the way he constantly undercuts such attempts at poetry with graceless turns of phrase is a lot both a lot of what I find charming about him, and probably why he gets no respect). "Say Goodbye To Hollywood" is a "Be My Baby" riff only slightly less powerful than "Just Like Honey."

I like the Stranger a whole lot more than Alfred does, apparently. "Scenes From an Italian Restaurant" and "Only The Good Die Young" would likely top my own list of fave Billy tracks, and Chuck Klosterman OTM re: "Just The Way You Are."

A bit more hesitant about dipping into the 80s stuff (probably on tonight's walk), but hoping to be surprised.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 14 July 2017 16:02 (two months ago) Permalink

Billy at his most adorkable

yes

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 July 2017 16:04 (two months ago) Permalink

I know you don't like angry man Billy but I think "Pressure" is a kinda cool catchy tension headache of a new wave rip

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 July 2017 16:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Here's my Spotify playlist of Billy Joel's Greatest Non-Hits.

pplains, Friday, 14 July 2017 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink

I want to know if they played "Miami 2017" at the All-Star Game the other night.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 July 2017 17:00 (two months ago) Permalink

i want a billy joel tracks poll more than anything in the world

mainly bc i still dont know the albums very well

i love him tho, and greatest hits 1 & 2 is a regular go to

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Underrated Leonard Cohen cover on Volume 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sly0MmNQzE

Eazy, Friday, 14 July 2017 18:36 (two months ago) Permalink

tracks poll is actually just a few down in the queue! i'm stoked, y'all! <3

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 15 July 2017 00:15 (two months ago) Permalink

veg & Alfred I would do a Billy Joel listening club like the Eagles or Rod

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 July 2017 00:18 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah i'm down w/ that idea too

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 15 July 2017 00:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Here's me on a Billy Joel listening thread.

http://i.imgur.com/FIgBONr.jpg

pplains, Saturday, 15 July 2017 02:22 (two months ago) Permalink

omg ums YES a listening thread! that would be even better than a poll

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 July 2017 02:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Count me in on listening thread.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 July 2017 03:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Shall we punt the poll down the queue a ways then, and have a listening thread instead? Then give it a few months for the listening vibes to percolate through the ILM hivemind and see whether there's appetite for a poll at that point? I've been in line for the poll since um (checks) .. August of 2013... but to me a poll and a listening thread sorta amount to the same thing - excuse to listen to a bunch of the artist and talk about them song by song.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 15 July 2017 04:17 (two months ago) Permalink

i like that idea!

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 July 2017 04:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I think "Allentown" is also my #1 with "Laura" as my #2, and this bump is eerie because I tweeted about "Laura" twice in the past week.

billstevejim, Saturday, 15 July 2017 05:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh but I've determined that the lyrics of Allentown are kind of annoying working-man Bruce Springsteen bullshit but musically it's pretty fucking dope.

billstevejim, Saturday, 15 July 2017 05:38 (two months ago) Permalink

eg & Alfred I would do a Billy Joel listening club like the Eagles or Rod

― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown),

DON: Well, yeah.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 July 2017 12:49 (two months ago) Permalink

cool! ok! imma get on this TODAY

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:19 (two months ago) Permalink

what would be the period covered?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:35 (two months ago) Permalink

I feel like everything? I dunno even in his peak period outside of maybe the Stranger I feel like there's lots of stuff ppl don't know?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:40 (two months ago) Permalink

that's a lot of material! When col and I have moderated them, the sheer drudgery of everyday posting required time limits. At least the Eagles catalog is small.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I was thinking chronological, but not including Hassles/Attila just cause that'd bog it down right at the start? (Maybe double back to those as special features though?). Basically, Cold Spring Harbor to River of Dreams.... open to other approaches though!

Agreed that it's a more unwieldy catalog than the Eagles. OTOH the most familiar stuff is smack in the middle of the chronology - would be weird not to get to Allentown and Don't Ask Me Why etc., but also unsatisfying not to delve into the lesser-heard records...

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:55 (two months ago) Permalink

OK. I'm convinced.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 July 2017 14:02 (two months ago) Permalink

I think there's a lot of ppl like me who know tons of Billy stuff but never really owned a lot of albums because he was always everywhere on the radio and MTV

Atilla is a whole different thing and doesn't count I'm, though I like it

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 July 2017 14:13 (two months ago) Permalink

So, I've been compiling a spreadsheet and I count 149 unique songs that could conceivably be included - - - though that's including later live covers of things, duets with Tony Bennett and Rosie O'Donnell, Elvis covers on the Honeymoon in Vegas soundtrack, etc., much of which could be eliminated, or consolidated by covering several related songs on a single day. If we really do stick to the 1971-1993 'core' discography it's more like 125 entries. How long was the Eagles list, roughly?

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:01 (two months ago) Permalink

How would you handle Songs In the Attic?

pplains, Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:02 (two months ago) Permalink

I was pondering that but I think it'd be either a matter of just noting, when we hit those songs, that they later showed up on that album in 1980-era live recordings, or, when we hit 1981 it's like a little, OK, break time, this three-day weekend's listening is Songs in the Attic, share your thoughts and feelings. I mean, later live albums, who cares, but I feel like that one's kind of part of the 'canon' for Joel fans.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:05 (two months ago) Permalink

I feel like list the main studio albums

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 July 2017 17:45 (two months ago) Permalink

tbh, since he has almost zero non-album b-sides etc., there are virtually no 'iffy' cases until after The Bridge so i can kinda read the room at that point and see how we're doing. i mean we have to have "the night is still young" and "you're only human," and i mean leaving off "why should i worry?" just seems mean.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:18 (two months ago) Permalink

How long was the Eagles list, roughly?

TOO LONG!

But seriously, probably around 100 songs (counting reunion stuff).

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:30 (two months ago) Permalink

I say, lets do the Cold Spring Harbour through River of Dreams discography, excluding live stuff (does Songs from the Attic have any non-album material?) but including the rare odds and ends like the GH bonus tracks, and perhaps "Why Should I Worry." Billy certainly has a more manageable discography than Elton, and didn't you guys do that (I didn't follow it)?

Also, I think doing the listening thread prior to the tracks poll makes sense as a way for those of us who only really know the hits to get deeper into his catalogue, even if it means suspending the tracks poll if its turn comes up in the queue. I think it'll make voting more interesting.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:54 (two months ago) Permalink

I love this idea. Joel is one of those artists I've always wanted to delve into - I basically only know his zillions of singles. I wouldn't vote in a poll until I've listened to at least some of his classic albums

Vinnie, Sunday, 16 July 2017 01:40 (two months ago) Permalink

got caught up in stuff today but i think i can launch thread tomorrow!

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 16 July 2017 01:52 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the idea of the Songs in the Attic interlude as suggested - i have never listened to his live stuff so a good core live album tucked in the middle would be kinda enjoyable imo

It sounds do-able!

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 July 2017 01:53 (two months ago) Permalink

i love you ILM.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 16 July 2017 07:32 (two months ago) Permalink

just trying to find the exact right image to top the thread....

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 17 July 2017 02:09 (two months ago) Permalink

:D

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2017 02:10 (two months ago) Permalink

much as i love the guy, i went with something just slightly more punchable

IT'S BETTER THAN DRINKIN' ALONE: The Official ILM Track-by-Track BILLY JOEL Listening Thread

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