Musicians whose political sympathies are to the right

I remember reading it in The Book of Rock Lists by Dave Marsh. There was a list of at least 20 of them, but those are the only ones I remember.

And isn't Gary Numan a Tony Blair supporter these days? (I know full well that Blair isn't a lefty [even before he tongued Dubya's bunghole].)

What about "When the Shit Hits the Fan" (which reads like damn near every 'let's get them fat welfare mothers' talk-radio rant ever blathered)?

Can you grasp the situation?
or is it getting out of hand
riots,killing in the streets
over the color of a man

everybody looks the same
with their head stuck in the sand
every one looks the same
'til you see where they stand

reactionary politics
are the order of the day
it makes me really sick to
see the poor,treated this way

caviar and limousines
high finance and jelly beans
decorate the east wing california modern,
it's great to be the king

did you see the demonstrations in another land
over weapons annihillation care of uncle sam

the stock market does not reveal
the arms that they have sold
half the world can't get a meal
the war is getting cold

a bushel or a barrel
neither can be saved
you feed your beef with wasted wheat
to dominate your crave

can you hear the foreign voices
can you understand?
every great civilisation crumbles in the sand
organizations and their plans
i'm anti swa,anti klan
P.L.O.,J.D.L.,they can all burn in hell

um, igor stravinsky?

I always took this song to be "ironic."

I can't think of anyone who does this who doesn't seem primarily interested in button-pushing, and doesn't come across like a parody.

huh? are you suggesting that it's not possible to actually believe in republican ideas? or just that it's not possible for a musician?

more on conservative 'punks' in this article

GOPunk

Francis Scott Key.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, April 13, 2003 1:44 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not a musician.

Jurado?!

Absurd

(the band)

i mean obviously any NSBM

http://thequietus.com/articles/04439-micah-p-hinson-interview-obama-bush

Stephen O'Malley was cool with running white power record ads when he had a zine IIRC but I guess that's more of a hand-wavey libertarian "it's about the art" situation

Tom Araya is a Trump fan (Kerry King is not)

black panther

Curious that so many literary modernists (Eliot, Pound, Wyndham Lewis et al) were on the Right, but so few musical modernists ever have been - I can't think of any offhand.

“As for Webern, he forsook his onetime socialist views to become an unashamed Hitler enthusiast, greeting the invasion of Denmark and Norway with almost orgasmic prose: “This is Germany today! But the National Socialist one, to be sure! Not just any one! This is exactly the new state, for which the seed was already laid twenty years ago. Yes, a new state it is, one that has never existed before!! It is something new! Created by this unique man!!!…Each day becomes more exciting. I see such a good future. It will be different also for me.”

Excerpt From: Alex Ross. “The Rest Is Noise: Listening to the Twentieth Century.” iBooks.

Garth Brooks was mentioned at the top of this thread but is that really true? He came out with a pro gay song in 1992, when he was the biggest country star in the world.

LOL, yes, was about to post Webern.

wow that Micah P Hinson guy is fucking stupid

also it was hongro that said Garth so ymmv

Dave Mustaine

Jesse Hughes

Kid Rock

Yet Webern inspired a whole generation of composers who embraced his brand of serialism as a means to ensure that art music could no longer be coopted by genocidal ideologies.

I doubt serialism is 'inherently' left-wing but I can think of very few on the right who care for it, or even take it seriously for that matter.

lol

MPH: what's that thing called when you put your guitar up to...

ABG: Feedback.

What do those initials stand for?

Garth Brooks was mentioned at the top of this thread but is that really true? He came out with a pro gay song in 1992, when he was the biggest country star in the world.

― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:43 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's not. He's pretty vague about it, and it's unclear to what degree, but while that's insufficient evidence alone, it's pretty clear his sympathies lean more to the left than the right.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/garth-brooks-country-musics-square-liberal-dad

There are extremely few musicians who are right wing and who I am or have been interested in - off the top of my head I can think of Bryan Ferry and that's about it. But there are many writers (admittedly not contemporary ones).

NSBM to thread

Regarding the Elvis/Nixon thing, based on Careless Love, just about everything Elvis did from 1972 onward was done on drugs, for drugs. He wanted the badge from Nixon to travel with drugs and guns with impunity. It’s tragic how bad he got.

xpost metal's extreme right/fascism problem has been a hard stumbling block for me since I started listening to it. not just the musicians, man sometimes you're just chilling with a metal fan and then he just drops something anti-Semitic or extremely racist and then looks at you funny when you look at him with a judgmental eye.

I mean, I bought a dirty rap album growing up, and maybe I worried the dude wasn't a good guy and had a rap sheet. I bought a 2nd wave black metal album, I had to worry that I was giving money to dudes who viewed the Third Reich as a "missed opportunity".

A bunch of great conductors and composers were actively involved with the actual Third Reich, although I don't think any of them are still able to collect royalties.

yeah I sold my Li Stadelman bobblehead as soon as I found out

Ha

LL Cool J used to be (not sure if he still is)
Wayne Newton's creepy ass is
Agnostic Front's best album is ignorant as hell

https://www.villagevoice.com/2005/11/03/50-cent-defends-george-w-bush-against-kanye-west/

Connie Francis endorsed Nixon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKMvvPQU38U

but I'm not sure if she recorded this song of her own free will or if was forced into it by her domineering Mafioso dad

*if she was forced into it

Charlie Daniels posts this EVERY DAY

Benghazi ain’t going away!

— Charlie Daniels (@CharlieDaniels) February 26, 2018

Gary Barlow and Tony Hadley

xp

Maybe he's just trying to reassure the Libyans who live there.

I just idly googled Tommy Rock, bubblegum Fowley collaborator, and he has a homemade web site with a MAGA hat on it.

the dudes from Mr T Experience. one of whom wrote very nutbar blog articles in the Dubya era

How has MES gone missing from this entire thread?

Anyway a lot of these sound less like actual political opinions and more like persona-building provocations. As an affectation that douche's opinion on Medicare or whatever is probably doing the same work as his his cigarette holder.

ha yeah that's probably true

the dudes from Mr T Experience. one of whom wrote very nutbar blog articles in the Dubya era

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, March 3, 2018 10:39 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not complaining, I'm just figuring out
How everything left us behind
I got my problems, I'm aware of them
I'll take care of them, never you mind

You're still repeating prerecorded things
They used to say in universities and
Books on left-wing politics and law
About underlying structures that
So far as they mean anything
Still won't support the personal
Connections that you draw

Institutionalized misogyny
That's all that stands between
My baby and me

Whoo!

Now science tells us I'm hardwired to
I'm required to, do it with you
'cause I'm a man, and you're a woman
And that's what those kind of people do

I stole that line from Woody Allen
Isn't it amusing? I wish
I could make you understand
What Woody Allen meant
If there's no such thing as
Objective reality, why can't we quit
Our jobs and just imagine we won't
Have to pay the rent?

Institutionalized misogyny
That's why they're charging rent
To my baby and me

Michelle, ma belle: Ton beau
Michel Foucault
A Foucault dependence
Always ready to go

I think we're alone
I might have known (ooh!)
She's got Chomsky on the phone

Institutionalized misogyny
That's all that stands between
My baby and me
My baby and me
My baby and me

Tobin Sprout of GBV, at the very best bi-conservaturious.

GBV as a whole seem pretty conservative at least with a small c tbh.

A couple of Dictators have lost their minds on social media with their conservative views.

Dick Manitoba has become fiercely Zionist and was anti-Obama, pro-Netinyahu and very pro-Trump. A couple years ago be blocked me on Facebook when I explained why I thought Netanyahu was a neocon warmonger who did not help Israel and pointed out that I did so as a Jew (on mom's side even though dad's last name is far from Jewish) and before he blocked me he sent me a message that I was the kind of jew they threw in the ovens.

Also Ross The Boss is a notorious pro-Trump derp. My run in on Facebook was a little less contentious - he called me a "shitbird" when I said something about Trump he didn't like on a mutual friend's page. I guess it makes more sense when you consider he was in Manowar too.

Manitoba was also recently arrested on charges of third-degree assault, criminal mischief and attempted strangulation, sounds like an all around great guy there.

over the weekend i saw someone on FB mention that sub pop bloke, Eric Matthews, is a Trump supporter and puts crap on his timeline.
they weren't wrong.

his twitter activity is sparse but comes correct with the Ben Garrison and PJW retweets plus this entirely indefensible controp

90's Scott Walker #NeilHannon @ScottWalker https://t.co/NELDr1Q6Kz

— Eric Matthews (@TheEricMatthews) October 7, 2017

jsus that's worse than being alt right

Dick Dale:

And it's not just the music Dale prefers from back in the [1930s]. "Things were much better back then, you didn't have a deficit," he says. "The greedy, money-hungry people that run this government now [May 2016], that's why they don't want Donald Trump near them. They're scared he'll come in and kick out the freeloaders. Trump isn't going to take that crap."

Well that's rich.

that's really sad. i like "it's heavy in here" a lot. :(

Matthews has been garbage for years; he was spouting shit back last decade. So he's just gotten worse.

Yeah, it put me off even getting anything past "Fanfare"

Actually, what put me off more, was when I picked up the album and track 1 was "Fanfare" and track (last) was "Fanfare (reprise)" and I thought "Sounds like only one great track then"

ah that sucks about matthews, i like his stuff...

Dick Dale:

And it's not just the music Dale prefers from back in the [1930s]. "Things were much better back then, you didn't have a deficit," he says. "The greedy, money-hungry people that run this government now [May 2016], that's why they don't want Donald Trump near them. They're scared he'll come in and kick out the freeloaders. Trump isn't going to take that crap."

Well that's rich.

― Sam Weller, Monday, March 5, 2018 4:56 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is so fucking tragic, this is the same guy who's literally out there touring with his declining body because he has no retirement or health care because this country sucks so much, yet he's worried about these fictional "freeloaders"

Yeah and hate to harp on DiNizio but he also crowdsourced his healthcare while simultaneously being libertarian

https://www.gofundme.com/ok2dm0

It's almost as if a social safety net is a good idea

xpost
Yup. Dick is supposedly *doubly* insured but still incurs monthly $3,000 medical bills.

Tobin Sprout of GBV, at the very best bi-conservaturious.

― Van Horn Street, Saturday, March 3, 2018 6:26 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ever since the various FB shares revealed this years ago I've chosen to ignore this fact, kind of like how I ignore it when getting together with similarly minded family. Tobin always reminded me of my Ohio cousins etc. anyway.

xpost considering the shitty coordination policies of lots of plans, that's not surprising (albeit infuriating). Often secondary plans have "non-duplication of benefits" rules so instead of just picking up the rest of the tab, they will only pay the difference between what the primary plan paid, and what the secondary plan would have paid if they had been the primary plan. so that could mean if Plan A (Medicare or whomever) paid 80%, and Plan b normally pays 90%, Plan B only adds an additional 10%.

so you could be paying expensive premiums for two plans and STILL be responsible for 10% of your medical costs, which if you're old and have a chronic ailment that requires any kind of expensive recurring inpatient or outpatient care, can add up to excruciating totals.

Wow that sounds so much better than our communist health system

re: dick dale - that sort of thing reminds me of when people quote william s. burroughs to try and prove how horrible gun control is. people, i don't care how good a book naked lunch is, a guy who shot and killed his wife is not a persuasive argument _against_ gun control.

yeah Matthews is a fucking weirdo. sounds like he's gotten even worse. he friended me on FB at one point (I have no idea why) and I dumped him when he started getting really weird. I mean he's not so much just a conservative but like, a fucking crazy person.

I mean he's not so much just a conservative but like, a fucking crazy person.

― akm, Monday, March 5, 2018 6:51 PM (two minutes ago)

i mean, not to say that all crazy people are conservative, but aren't we at the point where it's safe to say that there are no non-crazy conservatives left in america?

jeff flake? mccain? romney? these guys are conservative and not insane racists.

i mean, they might be the only 3 left, but you know what I'm saying.

man, when you're arguing for _john mccain_ as a sensible and not insane conservative things have gotten pretty fucking bad

michael bloomberg?

Exene Cervenka

& Billy Zoom

I know he's already been mentioned upthread, but wow, Jesse Hughes.

No one mentioned John Maus and Arial Pink? Felt like it'd be crowing too much to do so on the Maus thread. Always knew there was something off there

It's funny how in 2003 this did feel like an oddity and now you can't move for the fuckers.

all the Ariel p/JM stuff is either in their individual threads or lost in one of the monthly politics threads

yeah Ariel Pink got excoriated in some other thread recently, or two even.