― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
As for the band, I got an anthology out of the library once and decided that "For Your Love" was, in fact, their best song. Nothing against 'em, and the Beck/Clapton/Page pedigree is impressive -- but guitars aside, I'll take the Animals.
― Jesse Fox (Jesse Fox), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Evan (Evan), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
"for your love" and "shapes of things" are both really interesting, musically -- "fyl" for that harpsichord and the drums that sound almost middle-eastern or indian, then the chunky mid-section where jeff beck just riffs like a motherfucker, then back to the more delicate harpsichord-and-drums; "shapes of things" with its really pompous almost-martial beat -- and the "freak out" guitar in the middle and end (though it's marred by really clunky lyrics). both must have sounded really weird to people when they come out and compared to everything else on the radio (which may be why they have a reputation?) i also vaguely remember "you're a better man than i."
that's about it afa the yardbirds go.
― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
No, it's not just you. Lester Bangs thought so, too.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
I almost feel like I'm being kept out of an exclusive club. "How come everyone else likes it and I don't?" kind of thing...
― paul cox (paul cox), Monday, 31 March 2003 03:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
That guitar break in "Happenings Ten Years Times Ago" is still amazing.
― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 31 March 2003 06:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 31 March 2003 06:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Monday, 31 March 2003 11:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― dave q, Monday, 31 March 2003 12:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
The Rhino 2cd collection called The Ultimate! is quite good. You can really tell when Page starts playing guitar in the band in the collection. The early blues tracks sound as much like the prototype for Nuggets garage rock as The Stones.
The Animals were great up until Alan Price left the band. The psychedelic Animals are pretty corny, you have to wonder what Burdon was thinking with those songs like "Monterrey" and "SF Nights".
― earlnash, Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Errrr...so what does it mean *exactly*?
― Worried ilXor, Thursday, 29 April 2004 21:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
i completely forgot that i inherited the "little games" single (b/w puzzles) from my mother and was digging around in my 7" collection today. this band rules. can someone tell me where to go from here?
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
everyone's been really helpful so far!
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 5 February 2005 17:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 5 February 2005 17:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 5 February 2005 17:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 5 February 2005 17:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
YIKES, sorry, no way. did you listen to their earlier pre-psych stuff as well. (not that i don't think s.f. & parachute and all the singles and b-sides from that period aren't plenty catchy/poppy and powerful as well, i do, but the early daze as beat/r&b powerhouse is when they truly made a name for themselves and were ripped off by everyone and their mother.)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Next: The Marmalade...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Hey Eddie, do you have this record? (I wrote it up on my blog after I bought it out in Oregon during the holidays):
Charley D. And Milo - S/T (Epic) Gentleman pot-farmers unite! This record is a warm breeze of a thing. And again, I must have missed the Mojo that hyped it cuz this is right up their King Parsons/Beechwood Sparks alley. Lovely harmonies, lotsa guitars, acidic baths of twang. Great cover of Richard & Mimi's "Pack Up Your Sorrows". It ends with the weary drug traveller's mantra "Om Sweet Om". Brain-fried C&W fans need this now.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
is this anything like kraftwerk's "ohm sweet ohm"?!?
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Not to mention the amazing Euro groups whose main influence was the PTs like the Dutch Outsiders.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 6 February 2005 00:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 6 February 2005 02:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
The Yardbirds were let down by their management and record labels who probably didn't know exactly what to do with them. If their manager would have pushed them towards putting out LPs and playing up the acid guitar hero stuff, they might be looked at somewhat different.
That being said, I still can't figure why "You're A Better Man Than I" wasn't a big pop hit. I think that song had hooks out the yin yang and it wasn't even released as a single in most places.
Jeff Beck could never quite put and keep together a proper rock band. For such a great guitarist, he doesn't have too many good songs with his name attached other than some of the fusion mid 70s matierial. The first Jeff Beck Group album and parts of the second are really impressive. If he could have let Rod Stewart and Ron Wood write the tunes and just wail on top, that could have been the biggest band of the early 70s. Beck even got another chance with the Cactus/Vanilla Fudge rhythm section, but again no songs or singer of note. It's all listenable and interesting, but one has to wonder what could have been.
The Pretty Things' "Balloon Burning" is a great song. I love that one.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 6 February 2005 02:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
I say the Byrds too, but I also say Blue Cheer. And maybe The Shadows of Knight if only cuz they had an album called "Backdoor Men"
― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink
It means a lot.
And the Yardbirds weren't just good some of the time, they were THE BEST some of the time.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink
And yeah, hard to keep all the various permutations of the records straight.
― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink
Walter, I won't ask to see your list of fifty bands ...
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink
Yardbirds discography is very confusing. I only have an appallingly mastered compilation CD. I have a few things on mp3 though and they sound much better, so I need to get some remasters I guess. My favourites are the hits really - For Your Love, Heart Full Of Soul, Evil Hearted You.
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink
this thread is a good reminder to try and remember to look for some yardbirds..
theres a good description of the shooting of "Blow Up" in that kinda crappy "Ready Steady Go" book. 'course i can't recall what the story was exactly. ill look it over tonight and report back in the morning.
― bb (bbrz), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink
I can't think of any British bands from the '60s that I would place above the Yardbirds though.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink
Thanks for the info and thanks for posting the song. Cool stuff! Makes them sound like the MC5.
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:36 (nine years ago) Permalink
I love the Yardbirds but when they crap out they really go all out. "Pafff...BUM that's a sound called LUUUV!"
― Brio, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:02 (nine years ago) Permalink
damn that velvets cover rocks
― crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:06 (nine years ago) Permalink
i think there's some story about the Velvets and the Yardbirds playing on the same bill ... Jeff Beck carrying a gun around or something ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:20 (nine years ago) Permalink
Are we sure that's really the Yardbirds? This seems too good to be true.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:22 (nine years ago) Permalink
Definitely sounds like the Yardbirds right at the end of the song, wouldn't have known otherwise.
Did a search and turned up this bootleg:
(Shrine Exposition Hall, Los Angeles, CA, USA, 31/05/68)
1. The Train Kept A Rollin'2. Mr. You're A Better Man Than I3. Heart Full Of Soul4. Dazed And Confused5. Shapes Of Things6. I'm A Man7. Smokestack Lightning8. Beck's Bolero9. I'm Waiting For The Man -Bye Bye Bird -Happenings Ten Years Time Ago -Drinking Muddy Water -New York City Blues10. I Wish You Would11. Hey Gyp
The Yardbirds Featuring Jimmy Page Live At The Shrine - Another show featuring Jimmy Page with The Yardbirds. This show, a bit more complete has an over exuberant taper in spots however, the sound quality get's pretty good in places. Another nice document of Jimmy Page
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:38 (nine years ago) Permalink
yeah, dunno if these links will still work, but that show is over here: http://musictravellerstwo.blogspot.com/2008/12/yardbirds-with-jimmy-page.html
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:41 (nine years ago) Permalink
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kTObUFWzaKA/ST_5z5hQo4I/AAAAAAAABs4/w5fcygnxfsc/s1600-h/Fillmore+Poster.jpg
^ I'm liking the look of that gig.
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:47 (nine years ago) Permalink
Oops, no picture. The one with Cecil Taylor and It's A Beautiful Day anyhow.
Bumping this for Tom D. The idea of that Velvets is still amazing me. Know anything about it?
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:31 (nine years ago) Permalink
oops, should read 'that Velvets cover'
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:32 (nine years ago) Permalink
They might have played with them!
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:38 (nine years ago) Permalink
Also, Page something of an aficionado of US underground music, yes?
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:39 (nine years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I guess he was. Wasn't he a big Spirit fan or something?
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:40 (nine years ago) Permalink
And Kaleidoscope, and Buffalo Springfield et al
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:41 (nine years ago) Permalink
Not to go all off-topic, but: "Psycho Daisies"!
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 5 February 2009 11:10 (nine years ago) Permalink
Kinda like that engineer album. Not too keen on the early blues stuff.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:31 (nine years ago) Permalink
Yeah, Roger the Engineer is great. And Psycho Daisies too! B-side of Happenings Ten Years Time Ago, what an amazing single.
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:57 (nine years ago) Permalink
Not a big fan of the Yardbirds, beyond the famous songs
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:59 (nine years ago) Permalink
Somewhere I have an old Rolling Stone wherein it says, in the Random Notes section, that The Yardbirds changed their name to Led Zepplin, which in hindsight, is a pretty terrible name for a band.
The hook that follows the chorus of "Heart Full of Soul" always (still) gets me.
― factcheckr, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:18 (nine years ago) Permalink
Full circle for this thread: the VU book Uptight says the Velvets were originally slated to be the band in Blow-Up, but it went to the Yardbirds instead.
Anyhow, Yardbirds are classic. Clapton never topped his work with them, by my reckoning.
― dad a, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:51 (nine years ago) Permalink
always thought the riff @ 2:35 of this stooges track
sounded like happenings ten years time ago
― eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:18 (nine years ago) Permalink
made me a edit recently. loop madness.yardbirds-train kepta rollin (ettiem kepta editin)
― andrew m., Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:52 (nine years ago) Permalink
Eman, Iggy was a big Yardbirds fan, so you are probably onto something.In some interview he talks about listening to "Heart Full of Soul" and thought to himself "Well, what's my heart full of?" (Napalm, obv)
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:02 (nine years ago) Permalink
I guess I mean he IS a big YB fan.I love their psych shit, some of the early "rave up" stuff is great, too.Especially "Here Tis"
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:03 (nine years ago) Permalink
also "i'm not talking" and "i got a right"
― eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:53 (nine years ago) Permalink
For that matter, the MC5 version of I'm A Man on '66 Breakout owes more to the Yardbirds than to Bo Diddley.
― dad a, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:13 (nine years ago) Permalink
Woah! Never saw the Stooges link before!
The archetypal Freakbeat band. I really need to upgrade from my crappy beat-up Vinyl greatest hits.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:17 (nine years ago) Permalink
Sundazed dropped the news on Facebook today that they'll be putting out the Little Games lp in mono on cd & vinyl in December. Only two bonus tracks tho: "Puzzles" & "I Remember The Night".
― Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:54 (seven years ago) Permalink
are there any bootlegs of the brief beck & page lineup? paging tyler
― baby beluga (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 January 2013 19:44 (five years ago) Permalink
not that i know of? this one is tricky -- http://vivalesbootlegs.blogspot.com/2009/02/yardbirds-feat-jimmy-page-jeff-beck.htmli think there are two shows though, one w/ beck, one w/ page.
― tylerw, Monday, 28 January 2013 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink
in case anyone missed it, i wrote a little something about the VU/Yardbirds thang (along with mp3) here: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/01/15/the-yardbirds-im-waiting-for-the-man-vu-cover-live-1968/
― tylerw, Monday, 28 January 2013 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink
here's the high point of the beck/page y-birds recorded outputhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47NPJQq8h8
― tylerw, Monday, 28 January 2013 20:30 (five years ago) Permalink
actually a pretty rockin' milkshake commercial tbh.
― tylerw, Monday, 28 January 2013 20:31 (five years ago) Permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpcyWKKY9-s and here they are playing in 1966 -- page on bass, I think?
― tylerw, Monday, 28 January 2013 20:43 (five years ago) Permalink
jim mccarty + whoever is playing as yardbirds in my town but tickets are like 40 or 50 bucks so screw that. i got ghostface tickets and they were only 30! anyway, i fuckin' love yardbirds and i have listened to their (post-clapton) records a TON in the last 5 years or so. hoo boy, so addicted. so great. i could rave about them all night.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 April 2018 01:06 (one week ago) Permalink
This, from last year, is really awesome, especially the live disc: https://www.discogs.com/Yardbirds-Yardbirds-68/master/1269951
― brimstead, Sunday, 15 April 2018 02:01 (one week ago) Permalink
I would skip the McCarty-birds and get that killer Yardbirds '68 comp. I think it's my fave reissue from last year.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 15 April 2018 04:36 (one week ago) Permalink
Roger the Engineer was pretty much the shape of hard rock to come.
― earlnash, Sunday, 15 April 2018 08:13 (one week ago) Permalink
Reviews say Yardbirds '68 has the Anderson Theater set that's been available before, but it's fixed up to sound clearer. Question: does it sound *that* much better to justify the premium price?
― Josefa, Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:02 (one week ago) Permalink
Sounds quite good, finally heard it yesterday. But not compared it with anything. Just been shared on torrent sites. But I'm still thinking of buying it.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:21 (one week ago) Permalink
Haven't heard it yet, but the original issue had overdubbed crowd noise (from bullfights), so presumably this reissue sounds better.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:26 (one week ago) Permalink
EVERY live album should have overdubbed bullfight noises.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:33 (one week ago) Permalink
the new ugly things claims that they are not actual bullfight noises, the myth beginning with a misinterpreted jimmy page quote.
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 15 April 2018 17:28 (one week ago) Permalink
It was actually Jake Holmes who said it had bullfight noises.(and Scott otm)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 April 2018 19:20 (one week ago) Permalink
and it wasn't even released on matador
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 15 April 2018 23:01 (one week ago) Permalink
What's the deal with "Knowing That I'm Losing You" being released without the vocals (as they'd already been on Cumular Limit)? Is Pagey afraid of being sued by Relf's estate for not acknowledging Keith wrote the lyrics to the second verse?
― Lee626, Monday, 16 April 2018 04:51 (six days ago) Permalink
FWIW, I have the original issue of the Anderson Bullfight show and the new remaster completely smokes it.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 10:32 (five days ago) Permalink
Fun stories about the Anderson:
http://bedfordandbowery.com/2018/01/the-anderson-theater-forgotten-forerunner-of-the-fillmore-east/
― Josefa, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 14:00 (five days ago) Permalink
that was the anderson, huh? i was actually in there! when it was the "cbgb theater" in the late 70s. saw the jam. mick jagger was in the house that night w/ jerry hall.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 14:49 (five days ago) Permalink