POX - Britpop

Blur - For Tomorrow (Where it all began for me)
Shed Seven - Dolphin
Shed Seven - Where Have You Been Tonight? (I'm a survivor of the by now probably extinct Shed fans (if they ever existed!), could name a lot of their stuff but I'll stick with two better known songs)
Pulp - Common People
The Verve - Lucky Man
Super Furry Animals - If You Don't Want Me To Destroy You
Cast - Sandstorm
The Charlatans - One To Another
Menswe@r - Daydreamer
Manic Street Preachers - Design For Life (probably the only one that would count, considering the restrictions I set myself)

*Trash/ Beautiful Ones - Suede
*Live Forever/ Wonderwall - Oasis
*Anything by Pulp but especially Razzmatazz, Do You Remember..., Babies, Disco 2000, Sorted and Common People.
*To the End/ End of a Century/ Charmless Man - Blur
*Sale of the Century/ What do I do Now/ Statuesque, Nice Guy Eddie - Sleeper
*Slight Return - The Bluetones
*Being Brave - Menswe@r
*Insomniac/ King of the Kerb - Echobelly
*Only Happy when it Rains - Garbage
*Girl from Mars - Ash
*How High/ North Country Boy - Charlatans
*Anything by fucking Dodgy (all shit)
*Wake Up - Boo Radleys
*Reverend Black Grape - Black Grape
*That Super Furries song that goes 'you're on my mind, every day and every night'

Well these all categorised my 1995/ 1996 anyway. Have fond memories of them all (except Dodgy). I guess you had to be there.

menswear - i'll manage somehow
elastica - vaseline
suede - every monday morning comes
pulp - underwear
sleeper - inbetweener
bluetones - are you blue or are you blind
echobelly - insomniac
ash - petrol
thurman - she's a man
blur - bank holiday

+ / -

But that mightn't count as Britpop coz Supergrass is pretty good.

1. Staying Out For The Summer - Dodgy
2. Country House - Blur
3. The Day We Caught The Train - Ocean Colour Scene
4. Slight Return - The Bluetones
5. In a Room - Dodgy
6. Wonderwall - Oasis
7. End Of a Century - Blur
8. Tattva - Kula Shaker
9. Olympian - Gene
10.DOn't Look Back In Anger - Oasis

elastica - connection
black grape - kelly's heroes.

i don't consider yankee-grunge-producer-dominated garbage britpop. but that's just me ;-)

I'd forgotten about Kula Shaker and OCS for a reason.

If you're talking about the music I still find it hard to understand why people might opt to take Travis, Stereophonics, Coldplay over Pulp, Blur and 'Coming Up' era Suede. And, even though I got slagged for this, I'd still take Sleeper over The Strokes - which is no way intended as a knock at Mr Casablancas, but I never felt they had songs as good to be honest. At least, they never moved me as much as 'What do I do Now?' which I still reckon is one of the best break up songs ever written.

But Britpop had a lot of shit and paved the way for Embrace and the other dregs that followed in 1997, so I understand the HATRED.

I'd also (mebbe this should be a new thread) like to propose Pulp as the finest group ever on account of the fact they've never made one bum album and have been consistently great fro 'It' to 'We Love Life'.

as for sleeper, they are def one of the mediocre britpop hangers-on. i don't particularly like the strokes either, ftr, but wener and co are best forgotten. i found the last pulp album to be a little dull in places...

I would say the main difference is that those bands were mainly around in the mid 90s, while Travis and Coldplay are mainly around now.

Personally, I would rank Travis and Coldplay as slightly better than most of those. On the other hand, they don't come near to the best and most underrated Britpop band, that is Dodgy!

Oh, go on then, I'll spoil myself:

1. Boo Radleys - Lazarus
2. Blur - This Is A Low
3. The Prodigy - Voodoo People
4. The Stone Roses - I Am The Ressurection
5. Kula Shaker - Tattva
6. Ash - Uncle Pat
7. Dodgy - So Let Me Go Far
8. Radiohead - My Iron Lung
9. Blur - Chemical World
10. Garbage - I'm Only Happy When It Rains

I was using a very wide definion, i.e. anything that was called Britpop by other people.

Oh and Alright by Supergrass is a fucking fantastic song.

Now I admit I was pushing it with Garbage (no pun intended) but my defence of that is that the pop-tastic first album was in the collection of everyone who had Ash, Pulp, Sleeper, Blur et al and along with Louise Wener, Shirley was the indie boy pin up. BUT... Prodigy and The Stone Roses (and McAlmont and Butler??? WTF???). Come on...

Although a few years too early for the Britpop craze (if chronology isn't considered, then The Jam and Squeeze were Britpop too), I can buy The Stones Roses being Britpop. Certainly not records like "Fools Gold" or "One Love", but a lot of their debut album consists of melodic and very English-sounding guitar pop with a 60s influence.

Prodigy, though. Absolutely not!

I mean: Americans Brad Jones and Cotton Mather both released some marvellous British-sounding albums during the Britpop craze, but I wouldn't call them Britpop either...

But I argree - they're not Britpop, nor are The Stone Roses.

I think Britpop I think Blur, Pulp, Oasis and all the hangers on. That's Britpop. Though if you want to get really picky then Pulp probably weren't Britpop per se, on account of the fact their sound just suddenly caught on, despite the fact they have a body of work which points towards the evolution towards His N Hers and Different Class (and 'I Spy' and 'FEELING CALLED LOVE' on Different Class hint at something a lot darker - 'This is Hardcore' no doubt).

But most Britpop bands were just wagon jumpers, Shed Seven, OCS, Sleeper, Kenickie, Alisha's Attic, Northern Uproar, Menswe@r and maybe even Ash.

The one album they released during the Britpop era sounds less Britpop than the one they released as early as 1989, plus it was considered crap by most fans.

Stone Roses were definitely an important influence on Britpop, but - like The Jam, like Squeeze - I wouldn't call them Britpop.

As for The Jam, they were just 15 years early for being Britpop. Other than that, they had a lot of musical similarities with Britpop.

The Great Escape wasn't Blur's best album either and it sounded about as Britpoppy as the Second Coming. Does that not make it Britpop?

Yes it was. Even better than "Parklife" IMO :-)

and it sounded about as Britpoppy as the Second Coming.

"The Great Escape" was possibly the most Britpoppy sounding album ever released.