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No c/d thread yet? Would be very interested to know what my fellow ILMers think of Oneida. I can't claim to have heard everything they've done, but I love Doin Business In Japan, Enemy Hogs, and find the new album ummm, interesting. What's the word? They seem to be one of those bands who are never what I WANT them to be. Which is, well, I'm not sure exactly. Maybe more of an expansive soundscape kind of thing than a bunch of acid-rock chuggers. More often than not, they seem to fall somewhere inbetween. Still Funsome.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

They were great when they played here some time ago. Weird but good mix of more straightforward psych-ish indie rock songs with nice singing and guitar solos and the percussively-hammer-away-at-a-couple-chords pieces. I scanned an older album in a store and didn't like it very much.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i only have each one, teach one but it's a beautiful item. great psych and a beautiful package (on vinyl).

j fail (cenotaph), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 14:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't really love the albums I've heard, but live they are fantastic. They bummed out some ancient hippies who were there for the "psychedelic" music by playing one chord at an extremely high volume for 6 or 7 minutes. It was great.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 14:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I got anthem of the moon and each one, both seem interesting but I prefer Circle

tigerclawskank, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

love them. my favorites are probably enemy hogs, each one teach one, and the liars split 10". they're going over to the u.k. soon, so all y'all over there should show up and buy them drinks. there's not a nicer, funnier bunch of acidpsychfreakout purveyors to share bourbon with than these fellows.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Really? any more info on that, Lauren? Like when? where? etc.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Plus, they are extremely easy if any leftovers from gr0upiecentral frequent here.

Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i think they're at the underworld on may 31st, and rumor has it there's a secret show somewhere in london on the 30th.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

May 31st = my birthday!!!!

*whispers* yay...

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Absolutely incredible live - I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone exude as much happiness (or hit the drums as hard) as Kid Millions

Jerry (Jerry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

lone voice of dissent:

they are a (take your pick) safe/tame/mild version of the providence/brooklyn noise-rock axis. they take less chances = have more appeal (they play slower, embrace just a touch more melody)... give me parts and labor over oneida.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

When I saw them, Kid Millions was sick, and they had two drummers to replace him. It takes 2 men, playing at the same time, to take his place.
Oh yeah, and they were really nice, especially the bass player guy.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i like the way that their name sounds like "one idea"...

gygax!'s face has been printed on a bank note

schnell schnell, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't get the hype. They kinda sound another college radio sheened stoner rock band... not bad but *shrug*.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I didn't start to love Oneida till I saw them play out regularly. Since then they've become one of my favorite bands in town. They regularly shut down anyone they play with.

To say nothing of the money we spent on geting "EOTO" just so. I guess cursory examination reveals nothing special but go deep with them. They're not the kind of band whose appeal is evident after one or two listens.

http://www.enemyhogs.com for the tour reports. they are good readin.

mosurock (mosurock), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

oneida kick the ass of whiners.
oneida smash.
oneida kill puppies.
oneida stumble, yet never fall.
oneida-weeble wobble?

edde, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i've got to take issue with the idea that oneida are lame ducks in the ny/ri noise stakes. there are influences in common, though i think that they're trying to do something different than most of the bands of that ilk. they wind up with a different sound, but it's intentional and not a watered-down imitation.
as far as their live show goes the off-nights tend to be truly echh, but when they're on it they're ON IT. nothing slow, nothing safe - they are some of the most aggressive players i've seen, to the point of injuring themselves and ruining equipment.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 20:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think where they're lacking is interesting songs, though if the Liars split is any indication, they may be improving. But yeah, they are great performers and well worth seeing if they're playing yr town.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 21:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i think i saw them on an "ecch" night. the record didn't grab me either. kindly note: i've been listening to "13 monsters" on ultra-repeat for the last 4 hours...

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 21:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I am a phone rep for Oneida! (Potato co., I've never heard the music.)

Fivvy (Fivvy), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 23:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You Got to look into the......lightlightlight*infinity*
The records are great!! Still waiting to see em live.

brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 23:55 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Who are these bands from Brooklyn that are better than Oneida and play in their style? I want to hear them and form my own opinions.

Famous Athlete, Thursday, 27 March 2003 00:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

hey bilbo bagginsess: when i saw oneida in pdx, one of the main problems was the crap sound, the bass buried, etc.

as for parts and labor -- they definitely have something going on, though going somewhere different than Oneida. parts and labor definitely have potential, though i dont think all their pieces are together yet. the primary difference is see between oneida and parts and labor, though, is the garage thing, the striata of mudhoney etc that free floats in what Oneida is doing.

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 27 March 2003 00:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
I love "Antibiotics", maybe despite the (v brief and mixed pretty low anyway) singing.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 August 2003 21:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

After reading about Oneida around here and a few other places, I picked up "Enemy Hogs" back in May and found it to be a pretty good listen.

I think some of their tunes sound not unlike spastik early Sebadoh (esp. some of Gaffneys strange tunes), with a better production. Mind you, I doubt this is a comparison that they would want to have levied upon them.

I'm heading to Bloomington on a CD binge/purge in a few days and probably will search out another Oneida album.

earlnash, Tuesday, 26 August 2003 13:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard the new disc yet? Comes out in October, I think.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 14:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

secret wars?
i thought it was a january release?

eedd, Tuesday, 26 August 2003 15:55 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
onion article notable for setting.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they're playing friday at midnight at tonic. be there or be square, you snooze you lose, etc.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I fucking love Oneida.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

dude. totally.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Secret Wars is great. It's the first album of theirs I have and I am liking it...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 03:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they're also playing next Friday at Newsonic space in brooklyn and the Crazy Rhythms DJ Squad are gonna be, I don't know, DJing.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 04:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

New album is great as I've already mentioned elsewhere (in conjunction with the clueless fucknuckle who reviewed it in Friday's Guardian) but that article isn't one of the most inspired.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 10:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

onion article notable for setting.
-- gygax! (gygax0...), January 28th, 2004.

that guy complaining in the onion article is a total ILXOR. ha ha.

dj oneida, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 10:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Where the hell is Newsonic space?

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 16:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It's at 76 Rutledge Street, between Beford and Wythe -- way southside Williamsburg. Haven't been there yet, so I don't know what it's like.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 16:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

uh, BEDFORD and Wythe, obv.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 16:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

while on the subject of people enjoying themselves at shows...anyone from the Cle area remember, what was his name, Bleeding Ears John? Running circles upstairs at the Stereolab concert at Fairchild in Oberlin, or throwing pork rhinds everywhere at a Cul de Sac show at Speak In Tounges, I thought he was just some asshole who came to shows to annoy people, then me being told "oh, he's a real music lover, he just get's drunk and excited."

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 17:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

nope, but both those shows postdate my Oberlin/CLE days, I think. He sounds awesome, though. Not that there's ever seemed to be a shortage of kickass rockin-out maniacs in Cleveland.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 17:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

note to hurlo: i have the recipe! expect it momentarily! now can i be on the list for friday?

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 17:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

if hurlo can't help...you can be a (shutter) DJ groupie...

Newsonic is a pretty odd space. I think it's a Wesleyan thing. Don't know the people, but they used to have lots of art-music type events. But also heavy on the Shy Child/El Guapo axis. I remember low ceilings and carpeting and lots of Jews outside. Lots of Jews inside as well, but considerably less observant.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

lauren, props coming via email. and blueberry pie recipe.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

haha. elderly ny rock community in being meatloaf-making, pie-baking homebodies shocker!!

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sounds like the the nu-Williamsburg tentacles stretching ever further south.

By the way, I could use both of those recipes.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 20:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

meatloaf recipe is yours, if you'd like.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 20:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

likewise the pie, as long as you swear to use wild blueberries...and if that's yr real email.

I like the suitable derailment of this thread.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 20:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah it's real, and yes I swear, you'll have to tell me why wild blueberries, in the email.

To bring it back around, Fat Bobby loves pie.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 22:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

who else is playing the Newsonic show?

Russ, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 23:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

nice jam. they didn't play that one on saturday.

chris forsyth w/ band was excellent too, they are playing bk again next month to which i will definitely go.

adam, Monday, 12 January 2015 20:07 (three years ago) Permalink

it seems like a movie about abusive teachers who "force greatness" out of their carefully chosen students and that's not my thing at all, movie about drumming and teachers aside. i dunno. maybe it's like the Nadia of drumming movies.

― vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 18:48 (1 hour ago) Permalink

Since that kind of "greatness" is so anathema to what I consider great in drumming, I just feel like I'm going to have to go in not thinking of it as a music film. Then again music films generally tend to be even more fraught with cliches, impossibilities and fanciful myths than biopics in general.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:11 (three years ago) Permalink

Although it's not totally without precedent in the real world (pretty sure Buddy Rich did see music as that kind of competition, for example).

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:12 (three years ago) Permalink

"Whiplash" is good imo

i hope it's good, but have a reaaally hard time imagining that it feels real to anyone with similar experiences. honestly i'm mostly hoping for hilarious camp.

virtuoso thigh slapper (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:24 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, i definitely saw all the stuff kid millions criticizes about the film as intentional, that ultimately the whole thing is about the sort of folly some people engage in, people who think you can turn somebody into charlie parker by throwing a cymbal at their head, and how some people have an exceptional kind of magnetism to where they can actually get folks to believe something that self-evidently stupid. that's not really a "jazz" thing per se.

rushomancy, Monday, 12 January 2015 20:45 (three years ago) Permalink

russian olympic jazz

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:47 (three years ago) Permalink

which reminds me I really wanna see that soviet hockey team doc. which takes me even further afield from this thread.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:48 (three years ago) Permalink

that's why i compared it to Nadia -- the camp and the cartoonishly mean coach

vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:48 (three years ago) Permalink

clearly there is not much intersection between fans of the tv movie Nadia and Oneida
lol

vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:49 (three years ago) Permalink

ah didn't catch the ref

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:50 (three years ago) Permalink

lol xp

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:50 (three years ago) Permalink

You couldn't hang with Oneida and their crowd unless you knew Nadia backwards and forwards

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:50 (three years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

oneida-headz - is there any way to get the recent brah tapes other than on cassette?

Couple of Brah Tapes tracks here:

http://jagjaguwar.com/blog/2015/01/european-tour-announce-oneida-to-perform-eleven-shows-in-europe-tour-starts-319/

Position Position, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:11 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
two weeks pass...

Never sure which Oneida thread is "the" Oneida thread, but full recent set put up by NYCTaper:

http://www.nyctaper.com/2015/03/oneida-february-27-2015-the-bowery-ballroom-flacmp3streaming/

Like this minus the first song "Cedars", which just doesn't work for me for some reason. They cover This Heat, which is probably not a good idea for most bands but their take on "S.P.Q.R." is pretty sweet.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 March 2015 22:43 (three years ago) Permalink

ooh thanks for this. I'm still looking for a way into this band. I have The Wedding, Secret Wars, Anthem Of The Moon, and the Nice EP. What am I obviously missing?

sleeve, Thursday, 5 March 2015 23:15 (three years ago) Permalink

honestly i feel like these live recordings are their best work!

tylerw, Thursday, 5 March 2015 23:26 (three years ago) Permalink

Rated O and Each One Teach One are my favorites.

Tomás Piñon (Ryan), Thursday, 5 March 2015 23:27 (three years ago) Permalink

Each One Teach One is great, but I like Anthem of the Moon and Secret Wars a lot too (and Rated O). They really are best as a live experience though.

grandavis, Friday, 6 March 2015 01:18 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah Each One and Rated O pretty much spell it out.

Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Friday, 6 March 2015 01:32 (three years ago) Permalink

^ agree w this. honestly think the wedding and secret wars see them trying to be something other than what they naturally are (traditional rock band, rather than a god-level psychedelic groove machine), to generally disappointing effect. they have moments, those more song-driven albums, but nothing to stand with their best work. agree that the live show is the only way to truly know the O.

Soylent News Service (contenderizer), Friday, 6 March 2015 04:19 (three years ago) Permalink

*makes mental note to attend next London Oneida show*

Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Friday, 6 March 2015 10:41 (three years ago) Permalink

oh snap http://www.songkick.com/artists/261418-oneida

Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Friday, 6 March 2015 10:42 (three years ago) Permalink

I missed the boat on them for a long time too, and found a way in through first the song "Run Through My Hair", then that 10th-anniversary comp they gave away. After that I was hooked.

hardcore dilettante, Friday, 6 March 2015 13:59 (three years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

new EP out on Rocket Recordings

http://rocketrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/positions

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 4 December 2015 14:40 (two years ago) Permalink

Want. But $20 shipping...

dronestreet, Friday, 4 December 2015 14:57 (two years ago) Permalink

So want. The $45 all-in price tag to Canada is effin rough, tho.

hardcore dilettante, Friday, 4 December 2015 23:38 (two years ago) Permalink

Bingo. Would gladly buy @ a merch table, though. Crosses fingers.

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 4 December 2015 23:54 (two years ago) Permalink

Accidentally ordered a couple copies anyhow. I guess at this point if kid millions was selling his owl figurines at sotheby's I'd be like "what the fuck anyhow, who needs to eat, I'll just put Antibiotics on loop and stare at these hypnotic owls til I starve to death."

hardcore dilettante, Monday, 7 December 2015 06:18 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

and track:
https://youtu.be/yUwywyqvNkA

Dinsdale, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

DAMN.

To our friends and fans:
Oneida drummer Kid Millions is in the hospital in Los Angeles following a serious car crash. He is expected to make a full recovery but will be unable to play for some time. (1/3)

— Oneida (@oneida_official) March 2, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 March 2018 16:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

yikes, glad that it's not much worse ... one of the very best drummers out there ... there's a tune on the new one that features some unbelievable playing.

tylerw, Friday, 2 March 2018 16:18 (seven months ago) Permalink

in better news, just got wind of this:

CHARNEL GROUND is a meeting of Chris Brokaw (Come/Codeine/The New Year etc). on electric guitar, James McNew (Yo La Tengo, Dump) on bass, and Kid Millions (Oneida/Man Forever/etc) on drums, dedicated to exploring the outer and inner regions of instrumental rock music. 'Charnel Ground' was recorded in Brooklyn NY in 2016, and informed and dedicated to pivotal transitions.

https://soundcloud.com/gerardcosloy/charnel-ground-the-high-price

tylerw, Friday, 2 March 2018 16:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeesh

the one time i saw oneida live, kid millions was sick, and they had two replacement drummers, because they said that's how many drummers they needed to replace him

na (NA), Friday, 2 March 2018 16:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

Damn, hope he has a speedy recovery. :(

Had dinner with him once when a friend was involved in an early Man Forever piece (the one with the 1/2 hour long single-stroke roll, which was great), just a super nice and genuine dude.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 2 March 2018 16:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

last year's man forever record has some great stuff on it — the Laurie Anderson collab is unreal.

tylerw, Friday, 2 March 2018 16:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

oh no!!!!
kid millions!!! he is total monster drummer and i love his collaborations with other people, he has a generous spirit. get well soon colpitts!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 2 March 2018 19:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

One of my favorite (secret) ILX posters of all-time. He's doing okay btw.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 2 March 2018 20:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

wait
wut

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 2 March 2018 20:40 (seven months ago) Permalink

I've... said too much... never mind! ;-)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 2 March 2018 20:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

i come in peace
just got excited there for a second. he is a person i would really enjoy having a conversation with and maybe i already have!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 2 March 2018 20:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

!

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 2 March 2018 20:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

One of the best drummers around, obviously. Feeling for the guy and wishing him a full recovery.

bunny slopes, Friday, 2 March 2018 21:08 (seven months ago) Permalink

tfw you make a possibly ill-considered joke on Oneida's twitter about this and they finally hit 'like'

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Saturday, 3 March 2018 00:37 (seven months ago) Permalink

"shepherd's axe" is sharp, music for (millions in) hospitals

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

there is a gofundme thing for kid millions here:
https://www.gofundme.com/manforever

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:14 (six months ago) Permalink

good to hear -- will donate.
the charnel ground record that just came out (kid millions + james mcnew + chris brokaw) is a total blast.
https://charnelground12xu.bandcamp.com/

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:30 (six months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Whooooooa. Tempted to get a backup copy...

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:45 (one month ago) Permalink


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