(production) effects: search and destroy

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you know, like the different kinds of effects you can run audio through to change what it sounds like. Also, which do you think have been used the best/worst historically, and give examples!

Search: compression. It's like audio MSG; it's hard to put into words how it changes a sound ("it makes things sound, uh, cleaner....um, more compact??") but it does make things tastier (I've always loved how songs that are compressed like hell sort of tickle your ears like they're about to explode). Ex: The Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star (natch)

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 06:42 (sixteen years ago) link

the next person to use that damned vocoder effect again should be publicly flogged

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:09 (sixteen years ago) link

you mean autotune? yeah, that should pretty much be banned.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I like that vocoder effect. :(

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, me too. I've noticed that I ususally like it when it's used to make things sound cool and hate it when people use it as a play for irony. Like, yeah, yeah, we get it, NO YOU ARE NOT COOL AND YOUR SATIRE IS WEAK AND STUPID.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:26 (sixteen years ago) link

search reverb, destroy chorus

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Without chorus there would be no "Call of Cthulu"!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i will not back down about this vocoder bullshit!!

every fucking pop, country, whatever band is using it. that last madonna track, the 007 soundtrack thing. UGH! and now there's an HBO commercial song that is a straight rip off of that song. and on the Disney channel (I DON'T GIVE A FUCK THAT I WATCH THE DISNEY CHANNEL) has a show w/the little girl (who's now more of a big girl) from the Cosby show called That's So Raven. and she uses that damn effect and i want to barf.

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Woah, Rudy makes music!?
http://digilander.libero.it/paolocupra/Robinson/rudy.jpg
(is she hot?)

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 08:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Ech! I just realized how pervy that made me seem! Obviously I meant "is she hot these days", and I didn't really mean it it was just a wise crack! yeesh.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 08:33 (sixteen years ago) link

you actually are going to feel a little pervier. it's the YOUNGEST girl from Cosby show. younger than little rudy, Raven-Symone.

before:

now:

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

!? That little shit always annoyed me. Rudy was way cooler.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Search: Spring Reverb, Tape Flange and Tape Echo.

Distroy: Harmonizers

Mike Taylor (mjt), Thursday, 27 March 2003 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

i love the sound of spring reverbs. especially when you don't even play anything and you just hit the amp.

lovely

JasonD (JasonD), Thursday, 27 March 2003 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Destroy: digital distortion

dave q, Thursday, 27 March 2003 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I still like vocoders too.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 March 2003 11:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I like how the little girl from Fresh Prince grew up to be tremendously hot... Ashley?

Oh, and, on question, filtersweeps!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 27 March 2003 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Search: deladeladelay

oops (Oops), Thursday, 27 March 2003 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

The only production effect Greg Sage from the Wipers uses is an Echoplex. Works for me.

die9o (dhadis), Thursday, 27 March 2003 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

search the hell out of tape delay - i used to have a copicat on loan from someone and it was the most fun i've ever had with an effects unit.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 27 March 2003 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Search: reverb including well-used gate reverb, wah pedal when used as phaser, chorus when used for planky early Cure / Peter Hook guitar sound, tremelo especially on certain vocals, delay that's actually global on an instrument and not inserted on dramatic phrases.

Destroy: wah pedal used as wah pedal except on certain funk organs, digital distorion, octave addition, the psychedelic watery-flange except in really limited circumstances, over-groomed delay, U2-style guitar delay-riding.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 28 March 2003 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link

search: using all of them at once
destroy: using them individually

ejad (daje), Friday, 28 March 2003 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link

search: Dunlop Rotovibe because it's the best named pedal ever.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 March 2003 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link

You guys are really limiting yourselves.

Search: the Decimator, wah, flange, chorus, delay, vocoders (any band), BP LP & HP filters of all varieties, gated verb, halls, rooms, garages, amp modelling, ring modulators, Macintalk samples, backwards anything, delay, compression, fuzz, overdrive, pitchshifting, record crackling samples, timestretching, digital and analog varieties of all of the above.

Destroy: recorded music

Millar (Millar), Friday, 28 March 2003 04:20 (sixteen years ago) link

record crackling samples

oh jesus christ no

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 28 March 2003 04:21 (sixteen years ago) link

search: Lee Perry/Augustus Pablo style everything echo'd until the echoes are echoing, talkboxes used with synths Roger Troutman-stylee, big reverbs off of snare hits

destroy: that chorus setting they drowned nearly all 80s drum tracks in, overusing dynamic range compression

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 28 March 2003 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Does anyone like real music?

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 28 March 2003 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

everything echo'd until the echoes are echoing

well-put

oops (Oops), Friday, 28 March 2003 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
are tape delay / analogue delays really that good and really that expensive? (haha my flatmate says 'yeh, £1000, i swear your face off' but i think he's lying). do i really need one really?

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

oh and which ones are best (boss?) and which ones are not etc.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

And can someone explain why I might want to use dynamic range compression?

may pang (maypang), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

The only actual genuine analogue delays I'm aware of that you can buy new are the blacet time machine which isn't too expensive (I mean I have one, so it can't be) and the modcan super delay which is a bit dearer, but has a higher bandwidth apparently. I have some modcan modules, but not this one. The Blacet unit does an awesome dub delay, among other things. There was a Moogerfooger unit, but it was a limited edition, and I believe it's sold out now. These are all genuine analogue, but solid state (IE they use a BBD chip) units. I have no idea if anyone's making a tape delay these days, but the old eighties roland units are well thought of, and sometimes are available at a reasonable price - "Space Echo" and "Chorus Echo" are the model names. Personally I wouldn't buy a tape delay, b/c I am a lazy fux0r who can't be assed w/changing the tape loop, demagging the heads etc. I did all that shit w/reel-to-reel m/cs in the past, and I don't ant to go back there coz it's a drag.

The line 6 modelled delay units, available in pedal or rack format are supposed to be good and reasonably cheap, and are reported to do quite a convincing sim of the old analogue delay sound. Probably worth demoing a unit if you can.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks nf, that sounds a lot more complicated than i could ever believe. i'll go check out those solid state machines then.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, they're still making tape delays! I did a search for them about a year ago and found, I think, two companis that still make them. I's sorry to say I don't have the websites so you're on your own.

I used to use the Multi-vox tape echo. It eventually broke down/became unreliable but it was a lot of fun. It had a built in spring reverb. These things, a couple years back, were going for about 250 on ebay.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

If you're any good at soldering, cozen, the entire blacet range is awesome creative fun & amazingly good vfm as well. You're in Glasgow iirc? Next time I'm up visiting my sister, I can bung them in the back of the car if you want to try them out.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

a-ha!

http://www.hiwatt.com/data/HiwattFX.html

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

also, this dub discussion board has some info

http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discus/messages/1/1.html?1073681442

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, glasgow, but it'd probably not be worth yr bother letting me fiddle with it (though much thanks fr the offer!) i'm just an interested amateur. until i learn to play a bit more pedals that price are outwith worth.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

destroy: gated reverb

kevin erickson, Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

search: the jessica baliiff and that other guy CD--'clear channel'

the revreb is reverberated and delayed so much you never know what you're hearing if it isn't her voice

it's -this- close to invisible music

Ian Grey (Ian_G), Sunday, 11 January 2004 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link

search: acoustic plate reverb
destroy: nothing--everything has its moment/place

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 11 January 2004 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I recently got a Roland Space Echo tape delay/reverb unit and had to clean it up a little bit and hunt down tape reels for it. The sound is fantastic though, its incredibly fun to play with, it's a strange, almost organic, experience to manipulate it. I would like to figure out how to slow the tape speed motor down so that some of the settings would allow longer delay times, but the schematic I have is a little too labyrynthine for me to figure out how to do it. I will say that this unit is infinitely different from dealing with standard digital delay pedals, the sound, the feedback, the level of flexibility is all different. I highly recommend it!

Shakey Mo Collier, Sunday, 11 January 2004 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...
search: using your computer through guitar pedals
destroy: pro-tools

don (don), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

fifteen years pass...

plate echo, from Franlab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6eZ_JbmBDw&feature=youtu.be

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:57 (two months ago) link

the next person to use that damned vocoder effect again should be publicly flogged

― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:09 AM(sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you mean autotune? yeah, that should pretty much be banned.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:11 AM (sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, if fucking only.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 May 2019 20:04 (two months ago) link

real space echoes go for a pretty penny these days, jealous of those who got to snatch one up before they became pretty unaffordable

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 11 May 2019 20:52 (two months ago) link


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