Top 100 Artists who you suspect are common soundtracks to sexual assault

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100) Dave Matthews Band

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

99) Limp Bizkit

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

98) John Mayer

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

make it stop!

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)

97) Puddle of Mudd

― original bgm, Monday, 24 March 2003 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

96) Paul Oakenfold (Is that even his name? Visions of scummy college guys playing bad electronic music and groping stoned girls through haze of bonghits)

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)

95) jeffrey lewis.

― matthew james (matthew james), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

94)The Vines

― Charles McCain, Monday, 24 March 2003 17:12 (twenty-three years ago)

93) Bloodhound Gang

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 March 2003 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)

92) Brotha Lynch Hung

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:05 (twenty-three years ago)

91) EMF ... hahahaha

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)

90) Ani DiFranco (in all seriousness)

ypos

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

89) Rod Stewart (particularly "Tonight's The Night")

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

88) Barry White

Any person who is made to have sex listening to Barry White is being assaulted.

― Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Please explain Ani.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:44 (twenty-three years ago)

87) frank sinatra

― Daniel Booze (Daniel Booze), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Jon, I was about to post an explanation, but then I sort of felt like I was writing a how-to-date-rape for dummies guide, and I really don't want to do that.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:49 (twenty-three years ago)

This is obnoxious bullshit. Please stop.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Alvin & the Chipmunks, Mitch Miller, etc.

― christoff (christoff), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Dance Dance Revolution?

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

But Ani (supposedly) only appeals to lesbians, Horace!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Let's not keep silent on the hidden menace of lesbian date rape guys!!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Dude, my curiosity is seriously peaked as to why Ani D's name is on this list. Not delivering now = Just. Plain. Wrong.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

think counter-clockwise
think earning trust to betray
think sleazoids with no scruples

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

86) The Strokes ("hipster" in bad leather jacket feeling up girl after dance night)
85) Any techno

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:59 (twenty-three years ago)

wow, this thread is really offensive.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh come on, it's only rape. Where's your sense of humor?

― Paula G., Monday, 24 March 2003 20:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean it's not like I haven't made more than my share of terribly offensive jokes but...I don't know, I'll just stay the fuck out of this thread, it hurts my feelings

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

no wonder Jon Williams placed higher than me on the ILM's Most Obnoxious Posters thread! I've obviously got serious work to do [rolls up sleeves]

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

troll

1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare kook. 3. n. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.

Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.

The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.

-- The Jargon File

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:30 (twenty-three years ago)

your candor is astonishing

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)

nick, one's curiosity is "piqued." pet peeve, sorry.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

and yeah, this is bullshit.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

84) BEN FOLDS (FIVE)

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:42 (twenty-three years ago)

That's what I figured GC, but I'd rather be completely wrong than mispell the appropriate word.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:49 (twenty-three years ago)

83) Dashboard Confessional

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 01:55 (twenty-three years ago)

82) Anything by Queen

― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 01:59 (twenty-three years ago)

> 83) Dashboard Confessional

YES!!!!!!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 02:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I had a girlfriend once who thought it would be really funny if I dressed up like a frat boy for Halloween, and she dressed up like a date rape victim. Had to pass on that one. Can you say "issues"? I knew you could.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 06:15 (twenty-three years ago)

obvious objections to this shitty thread aside. but jeffrey lewis??

― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 07:00 (twenty-three years ago)

81) Indigo Girls -- back in the day in college, it's was always the record cro-mag frat boys owned and pulled out to show how "sensitive" they were.

80) Bright Eyes -- Indigo Girls for a new century.

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 07:30 (twenty-three years ago)

also, i hardly think jon williams is endorsing "date rape" -- it's really not much different than American Psycho, though shorter and better written than anything Ellis ever did.

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 07:35 (twenty-three years ago)

i went to the doctor
i went to the churches...

the closer i am to fi-ine yeahhh...

hey, wait a sec! doesn't

79) Sublime

have a song titled "date rape"?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 07:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Antiseen, believe it or not (wink), also has a song of the same dubious title.

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 07:41 (twenty-three years ago)

sonic boom has an ep, called data rape that i'm AIMing you about right now, circuit bender.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 07:56 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread does not offend me.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 08:06 (twenty-three years ago)

78) Tori Amos (to get the sensitive girls to "give it up")

― Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 08:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm offended that JBR is unoffended.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 08:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I still can't believe there's no mention of AC/DC's "Night Prowler" on this thread, a song that I - inveterate AC/DC fan that I am - am sort of conflicted about. I mean, Bon, who I always loved for his personality, his humor, his asides, his frequent self-deprecation; never did he sound as evil and vindictive as he does on this track. Even with something like "What's Next to the Moon" from Powerage; yes it starts w/ the line "tied my baby to the railroad track", but ends up w/ "It's your love that I want / It's your love that I need!". He paints himself as the desperate - but still beyond despicable - jilted lover.

Whereas "Night Prowler" is pure indiscriminate evil. Of course, it's somewhat redeemed by - of course - Bon's humor. He delivers his last ever words on record as the song crashes to a close on side 2 of Highway to Hell: "Shazbot! Nano nano!"

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 08:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah, not AC/DC. If you're using that logic, you'd go:

77) The Rolling Stones

(Brown Sugar)

76)Gun n' Roses

(Paridise City)

etc etc etc

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 09:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Unlike John D, I actually have been the victim of sexual assault.
Unlike John D, I actually don't find this thread offensive, I find it curious.

Curiously enough, the first time I was sexually assaulted, Metallica was playing in the background. I think that says something.

― kate, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 10:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Umm.... how would one "dress like a date rape victim", I wonder?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 10:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I actually have been the victim of sexual assault

Why would you brag about that?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 10:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Why do *you* interpret my statement as bragging? You really have some issues there, JBR. I am merely stating that as someone who has actually *experienced* the situation in question, I am slightly more qualified to establish whether this thread is offensive or not.

― kate, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 11:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I am merely stating that as someone who has actually *experienced* the situation in question, I am slightly more qualified

I'm just saying. Some women don't like to play the "victim" card. But go right ahead.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

You are the one projecting your "victim" idea onto me. I never used the word. There's a difference between stating what your experiences are, and "playing the victim". Take *YOUR* preconceptions elsewhere, please.

― kate, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 11:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I apologize for my outburst, Kate. People have different ways of coping with things.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 11:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I heard there was an instance of

75)Nirvana's 'Polly'

being sung by two guys while sexually assaulting someone. I think they may have missed the point.

― Bob, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 12:08 (twenty-three years ago)

74) Ocean Colour Scene

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

73) Ja Rule and his stupid moustache

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

IN MY EXPERIENCE... (I am only typing that once, so I don't get accused of generalisations throughout this post.)

...one of the worst parts of the aftermath of sexual assault is other people trying to dictate your reactions for you. JBR and John D have (perhaps unintentionally) tweaked two of my biggest bugbears. I am reacting to the stereotypes, rather than the people expressing the viewpoints.

First off, there is the Sensitive New Age Guy who acts as if anyone even talking about rape is SOOOOO offensive to women that we mustn't discuss it at all. They do this under the guise of being sensitive towards women, but really... it's because it makes THEM uncomfortable to talk about it.

Second, there's the Survivor who gets so defensive that if you even mention your own experiences, you're accused of "hiding behind victim mentality" or the like.

Rape is a double assault in that you are not just physically assaulted, but you are also made to feel ashamed, made to feel that it is your fault, and made to feel that you CAN NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT what has been DONE TO YOU. Do people who are hit by cars or have their houses broken into get this kind of enforced shame? No. Talking about rape, even in a lighthearted way, is not offensive. NOT TALKING about rape, and making it seem like something shameful that you should keep quiet about for fear of being seen to "boast" - THAT is FAR more offensive to me.

As trolling as the genesis of this thread may have been, I think it's a valid question, something really interesting and important to discuss. And yes, ILM often discusses things in very flippant and potentially offensive ways, but I'm not going to stand back from the discussion cause someone makes a flippant "Serial date rapist, what's on your walkman?" comment.

Music affects all of our emotions - it heightens our romantic feelings when we're in love, it heightens our desolation and depression when we're sad. The music doesn't cause the emotion, but it does stir and affect it. So why not discuss what kind of music potentially stirs and heightens aggressive and mysogynist emotions?

People talk about Frat Boy Rock in regards to date rape. Interesting. Let's talk about nu metal and its relation to the assaults that take place in the moshpits of debacles like the last Woodstock. And talk about Nirvana, and men missing the point of lyrics like "Rape me, do it again" while perpetrating rape. (Did this really happen, or is it another urban myth? I'm curious...) I'm interested in the *assumptions* about what a rapist would listen to as much as what they *actually* listened to.

BTW, do I think it was a coicidence that the boy who assaulted me was listening to Metallica? I don't think so.

― kate, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:30 (twenty-three years ago)

'BTW, do I think it was a coicidence that the boy who assaulted me was listening to Metallica? I don't think so'

Seriously, why?

― dave q, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean, I'd hate for somebody to scan my CD collection and come to the conclusion that I was Ted Bundy.

― dave q, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Did you read my post at all, Dave Q? I didn't say that the music *caused* his aggressive emotions, but that listening to aggressive music when you are feeling aggressive is probably far more likely to make you *act* on that aggression.

― kate, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Well this gets into subjectivity problems. If somebody listens to powerviolence or gabba or something, Metallica might be 'mellow' to them. Attributing essentials to specific records, too many situational factors come into play. I listen to Geto Boys to relax and get my mind off shit.

― dave q, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)

IIRC, most power violence is quite PC.

kate, thanks for posting that.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Go, Kate, go.

Sublime's "Date Rape" is about a date rapist that gets sent to jail for said offense and then gets raped in jail IIRC.

How has no one mentioned
72) Eminem? Hello?

― praying mantis (praying mantis), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:09 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...

Michel Polnareff

― dave q, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

to me, the point is that a person with aggressive tendencies is more likely to listen to aggressive music. the music isn't responsible; it merely reflects the individual. and if a person is really hell-bent on rape, he isn't going to give a shit what's on the stereo, whether it's low or mortiis.

― call mr. lee (call mr. lee), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

To people who were offended by this thread, see: George Carlin - Rape Can Be Funny, for further explanation on why you're a moron.

― David Allen, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh PC, the death of me![/mocka]

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― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh crap, my masterpiece is ruined.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Ministry
The Mentors
Etc.

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

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