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got it off of soulseek and though it lacks the angular metal-prog brilliance of "nothingface," it does have a more streamlined approach that definitely reminds me of "angel rat."

and good lord is it nice to hear snake singing again.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 20 March 2003 09:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

also, they're touring with sepultura starting in the middle of april.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 20 March 2003 09:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I forgot what it sounds like but at least its not Anthrax so err Classic in its day

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Did you hear about how Jason Newstead (now in Voivod) challenged Metallica to a rock off? ~_~

original bgm, Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've listened to it three times, and I don't think I can take a fourth. As with Rush returning to "basics", I guess I appreciate the effort, but it sounds really leaden and lost to me. And to my ears Snake sounds downright awful at least half the time. Count me disappointed.

Now, let's talk about the new Stratovarius album...

ara, Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

If you're looking for a second part of "Nothingface" you're lost!
Voivod are a very interesting band because of their continous evolution and self re-invention from CD to CD... there's no album that sound similar to another... you know it's the same band, but the sound always evolves. If something I've learned after time is that Voivod isn't a two or three times listening band. It's always difficult to get into their productions from the very first time. It has happened to me with every single Voivod album since "Dimesion Hatross" and remember "Angel Rat" was hard to get into, but when I got the idea and the vibe it turned into a wonderful album.

Jav G, Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You know, I love pretty much everything this band has released. Though my favorite album of theirs is probably "Phobos", which I guess a lot of people hate because of the vocals.

Anyways, I was still excited about this new one, until I heard three songs of it. "We carry on", "Rebel Robot" and "Gasmask Revival".
Snake doesn't sound particularly good here, the riffs just aren't as much fun as before, and all in all the songwriting just isn't slapping my giraffe. I -might- pick this up if I stumbled upon it when in one of my patented "robot CD-buyer" moods, but euh, it's amazing how those three songs completely blew my anticipation-bubble.

Oh well, at least it's not a pure "return to Nothingface" or anything like that, which would've been pretty depressing too. Though this DOES sound like a sequel to The Outer Limits, so not exactly a natural progression from Phobos. But then, it's been a fair share of years, and half the band is different.

New Stratovarius? Hahaha, man :D

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

HA!... well to be honest i just cant get Stratovarius, so let's keep on with the Voivod topic ;).
I agree, this three songs aren't as exciting as i expected too... as exciting as almost every Voivod album has been (though Rebel robot is slowly growing on me). But there are songs like The Multiverse that really seem to kick ass. What I've realized is that no one or almost no one of the contributors in this topic has listened the full album (nor do I). I've just listened excerpts from amazon.com and of course the three songs single.
Snake voice isn't great, agree! i guess it's lack of production, his voice is all over the music, not faded along the music which would be a lot better IMO.
It wouid have been great if the atmosphere of this CD was like "Outer Limits", but then again: isn't Voivod a great band because of their unique evolving style?.
After all, if this selftitled album isn't great, there's no problem at all... lets' go backwards in time into the Voivod history:
After "Angel Rat" (which was dissapointing for almost every Voivod fan, but not to me) it came "The Outer Limts" which is awesome!; then they released "Negatron" which IMO is their worst album, but after that album "Phobos" saw the light which is an amazing dark and powerful album... one of their best.
so, what were you saying about the new Stratovarius?

Jav G (Jav G), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the album is far too long, yes? would selective editing have maybe improved it? vastly? getting rid of some of the filler-type tunes, tightening it up to 30-40 minutes, maybe.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Gah, I saw "We Carry On" on MuchLoud last night. What a colossal disappointment! Sounded almost like crap bar rock with that lame chorus.

(Does anyone know what the song they played before it was with the falsetto vocal and guitar shredding? It was pretty good.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 23 March 2003 21:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They used to be a hairmetal band when they first started, didn't they?

Sean (Sean), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

[quote]They used to be a hairmetal band when they first started, didn't they? [/quote]

Nah, they started out as simplistic thrash metal, not TOO far from Venom et al. Well, I suppose you might mean just that when you say hairmetal. If so, hi!

Then they started throwing in more fanciness for the next few albums, then they just ditched the metal and went for that Nothingface style of hard rock, which was pretty darn nifty as well.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Monday, 24 March 2003 10:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

eight years pass...

anyone heard the live thing from earlier this year, warriors of ice?

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 September 2011 12:35 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

New album reviewed by xhuxk:

http://www.spin.com/reviews/voivod-target-earth-century-media?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter

Also, albums 2-4 are on Spotify now via Sanctuary and albums 5-7 via Geffen. Some of these have been out of print for a long time.

timellison, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:33 (four years ago) Permalink

Great read xhuxk! Funny but that article also linked to a review of the new Bad Relgion. What a trip that two of my favorite 80s/high school bands are still rocking in the free world.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:48 (four years ago) Permalink

This new one is fantastic. I was late to the game on these guys, missed out on their 80s heyday, but I can't believe how great Target Earth sounds.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:11 (four years ago) Permalink

If you need to know anything more Jon, hit me up. I'm a fanatic Vodhead.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:16 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, where is the best place to go back to the classic era? I picked up the War and Pain reissue from a couple of years ago, but not sure where to go next. Seems like Dimension Hatross or Nothingface seem like favorites, but I'm wondering if I'd gain more from a different record. For what its worth I think I like the vibe on War and Pain more than the execution, if that makes sense. I can see really liking where they're going to journey between that and the 2003 self-titled (where I climbed on), but it doesn't feel quite there yet.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:22 (four years ago) Permalink

It makes a lot of sense. War and Pain isn't great at all. Nothingface is my favourite by a stretch.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:41 (four years ago) Permalink

The classic trilogy is Killing Technology (thrash) / Dimension Hatross (space thrash) / Nothingface (space prog).

All of those are excellent albums, although I have a recurring issue with the fact that the sub-par bonus tracks on Killing Technology CD are incorporated into the track listing... Wish they'd stick with the same order from the vinyl and put "Cockroaches" and "Too Scared to Scream" on a separate disc, or at least at the end.

Regardless, those three albums are perfect and really run the gamut from harsh execution to almost sterile perfection over the course of only a few short years. Once you've digested those, hit me back.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:53 (four years ago) Permalink

Dimension Hatross is my favorite. It was my first record of theirs, and it took me forever to get into it. But when it clicked, it just sounded like the best idea ever. Rrroooaaarrr is its own kind of brilliance, too.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:02 (four years ago) Permalink

The best one that no one talks about is Phobos. Definitely on par with their best, but poorly distributed. Also has godawful bonus tracks, not thanks to Newsted.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:05 (four years ago) Permalink

War and Pain isn't great at all.

Taking a deep breath. Not getting upset. Don't want to punch anybody at all. Everything's subjective.

fuck off like a diamond (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 09:59 (four years ago) Permalink

Thanks Nate! I wouldn't say War and Pain is awful, it just more seemed like the band getting warmed up. I think I'll go with either Hatross or Nothingface next, the tag "space" in front of those descriptors perks my ears up a little more.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:35 (four years ago) Permalink

Piggy RIP. the apocryphal story going round my hesher circle was that he learned his chops by figuring out how to play Yes songs backwards

llurk, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:00 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Man, Target Earth is way better than I had any right to expect.

The Jacket Bastard (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 18 March 2013 12:27 (four years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Today is DIMENSION HATRÖSS today

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 29 July 2013 22:41 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Listening to Voivod's Nothingface for probably the first time in over 20 years has been pretty interesting. The thing I heard more in their sound is how much progressive rock breaks there are in each tune. They also break down into some pretty harmonically gnarly stiff breaks that kind of remind me a bit of the Minutemen in some ways except with a big stack guitar sound. There are just bunches of little 8 and 16 bar breaks/bridges in these tunes. It's got a medley like thing in the song structure.

earlnash, Thursday, 24 October 2013 22:15 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Reading above, so weird that I've been playing Voivod and Minutemen all day today!

Never really heard much Voivod before now, but this is pretty fun (especially as my thrash exposure is mostly limited to super famous Metallica/Slayer stuff and proto black metal Bathory). Definitely a prog thing happening, but the playing is (kind of awesomely) loose, like a hardcore band reaching for into thrash Rush.

Dominique, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:38 (two years ago) Permalink

for into

tho I've only heard the first three records so far, hopefully they don't become too Tool-ish? (ie, too technical and not fun)

Dominique, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:38 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't think they ever become super-technical, but they do get a little proggy on Nothingface (still more reliant on Piggy's weird, dissonant textures and Blackie's bass churning along than super complex songwriting), then a bit more straightforward on Angel Rat and Outer Limits. When you listen to War and Pain -> Nothingface they really went through an astounding amount of evolution.

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 1 December 2014 00:14 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

What does "Hatross" mean? This question has not occurred to me until today.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 9 September 2017 15:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ah, it was in the liner notes all along.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 9 September 2017 20:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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