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got it off of soulseek and though it lacks the angular metal-prog brilliance of "nothingface," it does have a more streamlined approach that definitely reminds me of "angel rat."

and good lord is it nice to hear snake singing again.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 20 March 2003 09:38 (twenty years ago) link

also, they're touring with sepultura starting in the middle of april.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 20 March 2003 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

I forgot what it sounds like but at least its not Anthrax so err Classic in its day

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

Did you hear about how Jason Newstead (now in Voivod) challenged Metallica to a rock off? ~_~

original bgm, Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

I've listened to it three times, and I don't think I can take a fourth. As with Rush returning to "basics", I guess I appreciate the effort, but it sounds really leaden and lost to me. And to my ears Snake sounds downright awful at least half the time. Count me disappointed.

Now, let's talk about the new Stratovarius album...

ara, Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

If you're looking for a second part of "Nothingface" you're lost!
Voivod are a very interesting band because of their continous evolution and self re-invention from CD to CD... there's no album that sound similar to another... you know it's the same band, but the sound always evolves. If something I've learned after time is that Voivod isn't a two or three times listening band. It's always difficult to get into their productions from the very first time. It has happened to me with every single Voivod album since "Dimesion Hatross" and remember "Angel Rat" was hard to get into, but when I got the idea and the vibe it turned into a wonderful album.

Jav G, Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

You know, I love pretty much everything this band has released. Though my favorite album of theirs is probably "Phobos", which I guess a lot of people hate because of the vocals.

Anyways, I was still excited about this new one, until I heard three songs of it. "We carry on", "Rebel Robot" and "Gasmask Revival".
Snake doesn't sound particularly good here, the riffs just aren't as much fun as before, and all in all the songwriting just isn't slapping my giraffe. I -might- pick this up if I stumbled upon it when in one of my patented "robot CD-buyer" moods, but euh, it's amazing how those three songs completely blew my anticipation-bubble.

Oh well, at least it's not a pure "return to Nothingface" or anything like that, which would've been pretty depressing too. Though this DOES sound like a sequel to The Outer Limits, so not exactly a natural progression from Phobos. But then, it's been a fair share of years, and half the band is different.

New Stratovarius? Hahaha, man :D

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

HA!... well to be honest i just cant get Stratovarius, so let's keep on with the Voivod topic ;).
I agree, this three songs aren't as exciting as i expected too... as exciting as almost every Voivod album has been (though Rebel robot is slowly growing on me). But there are songs like The Multiverse that really seem to kick ass. What I've realized is that no one or almost no one of the contributors in this topic has listened the full album (nor do I). I've just listened excerpts from amazon.com and of course the three songs single.
Snake voice isn't great, agree! i guess it's lack of production, his voice is all over the music, not faded along the music which would be a lot better IMO.
It wouid have been great if the atmosphere of this CD was like "Outer Limits", but then again: isn't Voivod a great band because of their unique evolving style?.
After all, if this selftitled album isn't great, there's no problem at all... lets' go backwards in time into the Voivod history:
After "Angel Rat" (which was dissapointing for almost every Voivod fan, but not to me) it came "The Outer Limts" which is awesome!; then they released "Negatron" which IMO is their worst album, but after that album "Phobos" saw the light which is an amazing dark and powerful album... one of their best.
so, what were you saying about the new Stratovarius?

Jav G (Jav G), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:52 (twenty years ago) link

the album is far too long, yes? would selective editing have maybe improved it? vastly? getting rid of some of the filler-type tunes, tightening it up to 30-40 minutes, maybe.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

Gah, I saw "We Carry On" on MuchLoud last night. What a colossal disappointment! Sounded almost like crap bar rock with that lame chorus.

(Does anyone know what the song they played before it was with the falsetto vocal and guitar shredding? It was pretty good.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 23 March 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link

They used to be a hairmetal band when they first started, didn't they?

Sean (Sean), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:43 (twenty years ago) link

[quote]They used to be a hairmetal band when they first started, didn't they? [/quote]

Nah, they started out as simplistic thrash metal, not TOO far from Venom et al. Well, I suppose you might mean just that when you say hairmetal. If so, hi!

Then they started throwing in more fanciness for the next few albums, then they just ditched the metal and went for that Nothingface style of hard rock, which was pretty darn nifty as well.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Monday, 24 March 2003 10:11 (twenty years ago) link

eight years pass...

anyone heard the live thing from earlier this year, warriors of ice?

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 September 2011 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

New album reviewed by xhuxk:


Also, albums 2-4 are on Spotify now via Sanctuary and albums 5-7 via Geffen. Some of these have been out of print for a long time.

timellison, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

Great read xhuxk! Funny but that article also linked to a review of the new Bad Relgion. What a trip that two of my favorite 80s/high school bands are still rocking in the free world.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:48 (ten years ago) link

This new one is fantastic. I was late to the game on these guys, missed out on their 80s heyday, but I can't believe how great Target Earth sounds.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:11 (ten years ago) link

If you need to know anything more Jon, hit me up. I'm a fanatic Vodhead.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:16 (ten years ago) link

Well, where is the best place to go back to the classic era? I picked up the War and Pain reissue from a couple of years ago, but not sure where to go next. Seems like Dimension Hatross or Nothingface seem like favorites, but I'm wondering if I'd gain more from a different record. For what its worth I think I like the vibe on War and Pain more than the execution, if that makes sense. I can see really liking where they're going to journey between that and the 2003 self-titled (where I climbed on), but it doesn't feel quite there yet.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:22 (ten years ago) link

It makes a lot of sense. War and Pain isn't great at all. Nothingface is my favourite by a stretch.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link

The classic trilogy is Killing Technology (thrash) / Dimension Hatross (space thrash) / Nothingface (space prog).

All of those are excellent albums, although I have a recurring issue with the fact that the sub-par bonus tracks on Killing Technology CD are incorporated into the track listing... Wish they'd stick with the same order from the vinyl and put "Cockroaches" and "Too Scared to Scream" on a separate disc, or at least at the end.

Regardless, those three albums are perfect and really run the gamut from harsh execution to almost sterile perfection over the course of only a few short years. Once you've digested those, hit me back.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link

Dimension Hatross is my favorite. It was my first record of theirs, and it took me forever to get into it. But when it clicked, it just sounded like the best idea ever. Rrroooaaarrr is its own kind of brilliance, too.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link

The best one that no one talks about is Phobos. Definitely on par with their best, but poorly distributed. Also has godawful bonus tracks, not thanks to Newsted.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:05 (ten years ago) link

War and Pain isn't great at all.

Taking a deep breath. Not getting upset. Don't want to punch anybody at all. Everything's subjective.

fuck off like a diamond (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 09:59 (ten years ago) link

Thanks Nate! I wouldn't say War and Pain is awful, it just more seemed like the band getting warmed up. I think I'll go with either Hatross or Nothingface next, the tag "space" in front of those descriptors perks my ears up a little more.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

Piggy RIP. the apocryphal story going round my hesher circle was that he learned his chops by figuring out how to play Yes songs backwards

llurk, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Man, Target Earth is way better than I had any right to expect.

The Jacket Bastard (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 18 March 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...


Elvis Telecom, Monday, 29 July 2013 22:41 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Listening to Voivod's Nothingface for probably the first time in over 20 years has been pretty interesting. The thing I heard more in their sound is how much progressive rock breaks there are in each tune. They also break down into some pretty harmonically gnarly stiff breaks that kind of remind me a bit of the Minutemen in some ways except with a big stack guitar sound. There are just bunches of little 8 and 16 bar breaks/bridges in these tunes. It's got a medley like thing in the song structure.

earlnash, Thursday, 24 October 2013 22:15 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Reading above, so weird that I've been playing Voivod and Minutemen all day today!

Never really heard much Voivod before now, but this is pretty fun (especially as my thrash exposure is mostly limited to super famous Metallica/Slayer stuff and proto black metal Bathory). Definitely a prog thing happening, but the playing is (kind of awesomely) loose, like a hardcore band reaching for into thrash Rush.

Dominique, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:38 (eight years ago) link

for into

tho I've only heard the first three records so far, hopefully they don't become too Tool-ish? (ie, too technical and not fun)

Dominique, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:38 (eight years ago) link

I don't think they ever become super-technical, but they do get a little proggy on Nothingface (still more reliant on Piggy's weird, dissonant textures and Blackie's bass churning along than super complex songwriting), then a bit more straightforward on Angel Rat and Outer Limits. When you listen to War and Pain -> Nothingface they really went through an astounding amount of evolution.

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 1 December 2014 00:14 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

What does "Hatross" mean? This question has not occurred to me until today.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 9 September 2017 15:52 (five years ago) link

ah, it was in the liner notes all along.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 9 September 2017 20:57 (five years ago) link

one year passes...


fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:33 (four years ago) link

I saw voivod coheadline with soundgarden (prong was the opener) in 1991

Favorite show

President Keyes, Saturday, 22 September 2018 03:02 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Totally missed the news of all these reissues but don't recall where I heard about the new album.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 16 November 2018 17:21 (four years ago) link

New one is my favorite since Dimension Hatross - 30 friggin years ago!

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 16 November 2018 17:23 (four years ago) link

has nothingface been reissued yet?

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:36 (four years ago) link

No reissue yet... different label? Mechanic?

The new one is really good! I like the King Crimson-y riffs on some songs.

DEATH PUPPET (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 17 November 2018 20:21 (four years ago) link

There's still the Geffen Nothingface on Spotify.

timellison, Saturday, 17 November 2018 22:27 (four years ago) link

I noticed that two of their newer albums have been released in one package as well.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 November 2018 22:35 (four years ago) link

A new Japanese reissue of Nothingface is floating around out there on Amazon (19.99) and ImportCDS (12.99); I've not seen it up close though. I have a feeling it's a sort of bare bones reprint, not like a formal "reissue" reissue. I sort of prefer that anyway. Ripping Corpse's Dreaming with the Dead came out like that a few years ago, just a straight reprint, no liner notes or essays, no remaster, just the same as it originally was. Perfect, really.

Devilock, Sunday, 18 November 2018 03:26 (four years ago) link

Angel Rat got the same treatment.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 18 November 2018 03:28 (four years ago) link

I think.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 18 November 2018 03:28 (four years ago) link

Any consensus on the pre-Nothingface reissues v the late 80s originals?

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 18 November 2018 06:31 (four years ago) link

uh voivod were a blind spot for me forever and... this band fucking rules?????

the new one is excellent too

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 18 November 2018 15:00 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

Voivod go horn rock at the Montreal Jazz Festival!


Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Monday, 1 July 2019 14:37 (three years ago) link

This is so great - thanks for posting!

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 1 July 2019 14:40 (three years ago) link

holy shit third stream metal

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 1 July 2019 14:44 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Listened to Killing Technology for the first time this week. Fucking glorious. Best first listen I've had in an age.

Has these reissues + new album made them bigger/getting their due?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 20 December 2019 19:17 (three years ago) link

I'm not a complete catalog listener or up to date on Voivod's new record, but their EP from a couple years ago called "Post Society" is a good record. It's got lots of weird angle riffing and they are just so tight and smooth playing those jagged melodies. Voivod have always had some real unique groove to them.

earlnash, Saturday, 21 December 2019 04:17 (three years ago) link

I think The Wake is better than Post Society but with more of a down vibe, but I love the King Crimson-esque riffing in the title track and the general progginess. But there are no bad Voivod albums IMO.

I'd be curious as to whether those reissues had any effect on their standing, I feel like they probably mostly sold to older fans who wanted the live tracks and demo stuff.

"Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 21 December 2019 05:56 (three years ago) link

Post Society was good yeah, but I'm definitely a Wake man.

but yeah. they were fun to see live playing the new album earlier this year.

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 December 2019 05:57 (three years ago) link

I've been listening to the self titled one and a live record called Lives I found used in the past few days. Voivod have done so many sounds, many in the same tune. There are parts that are doom, parts that are prog and hard psychedelic edge to it.

One side-group from Voivod that I have heard and dug is that Kosmos CD, which is pretty 70s inspired spacerock in a Hawkwind/Krautrock way.

Voivod is definitely a band I'd eventually like to hear it all.

earlnash, Saturday, 21 December 2019 13:08 (three years ago) link

Listened to The Wake, RRROOOAAARRR, Katorz and Phobos last night and thoroughly enjoyed them all.

"Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 22 December 2019 06:54 (three years ago) link

I've been making my way through the Voivod discography discography and I can't help but feel a weird kinship btwn them and NoMeansNo, and kind of conceptualize them as the metal equivalent - not just the Canadian aspect or their respective longevity, but something about the unfussy production and focus on musicianship and attitude, while lacking self-seriousness (though Voivod were never nearly as jokey as NMN at their wackiest)

maybe it's just hinting at an overall canadian sensibility I have yet to fully diagnose

Simon H., Sunday, 22 December 2019 07:45 (three years ago) link

they both have great churning deep cuts called "The Tower", too

Simon H., Sunday, 22 December 2019 08:11 (three years ago) link

Canadian bands and good ass bass tones 🤷

"Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 22 December 2019 08:44 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

"There is only one solution
Eat them one by one!"

Great lyric. Really love this album, it's not just the album that I wanted from Voivod, it's what I wanted from Sonic Youth (I always thought they had similar moments, probably shared influences).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

Anyone know if/when a next batch of reissues are coming out? I want Angel Rat this year.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 24 January 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

The reissues were all Noise Records releases and the later ones were on Mechanic and MCA IIRC? I would love reissues/remasters but I'm not holding my breath.

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 25 January 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link

The 2018 Nothingface and Angel Rat are both Japanese? I probably go with that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 25 January 2020 04:26 (three years ago) link

Oh I didn't see those. Yeah I'd be curious to hear them.

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 25 January 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

There's bits of interview with Away and recommended albums by two other bands.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 3 July 2020 18:47 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

don't know if this is already well known but the (mostly instrumental) prog-punk band Removal did a bunch of singles with different singers on them including Snake


Shaidar Logoff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 07:32 (two years ago) link

It's from like 2005 so apologies if I'm late

Shaidar Logoff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 07:32 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

Really digging The Wake

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 September 2021 22:22 (one year ago) link

It's really good! I love the King Crimson touches on some of the riffs.

Shaidar Logoff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 15:09 (one year ago) link

yeah that was one of my favorite releases that year. and the material is great live too.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 15:11 (one year ago) link

Second last track is my favorite so far

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:19 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Rrroooaaarrr really surpassed my expectations, there's a part in the last track where they sound like a force of nature, incredible.

I'm sure I heard Nothingface and Angel Rat were getting another reissue after master tapes were found? (am I imagining this?) Only LPs were released so far.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 February 2023 17:10 (one month ago) link

I've never heard their first three albums in their entirety because the songs that made it to the Best of Voivod compilation sounded really unformed compared to Dimension Hatröss.
I wonder if I didn't know that they were from Québec whether their music would sound as wintery to me as it does.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 February 2023 23:41 (one month ago) link

master tapes found?

wiki sez:

The master tapes for Voivod's MCA-era albums were long thought to have been destroyed in the 2008 Universal Studios fire; this was later disputed by Blacky, who revealed in late 2019 that the master tapes for Nothingface, Angel Rat and The Outer Limits were located in a facility in Pennsylvania, after persistently questioning Universal staff, and claimed that they are now in his possession.[24][25]


dow, Saturday, 11 February 2023 00:01 (one month ago) link

I'll wait patiently for Angel Rat, assuming it will eventually get the reissue treatment the early albums got.

I think Killing Technology is absolutely as good or better than the next two albums. I think I might like Rrroooaaarrr more than Nothingface but maybe I need to return to the latter.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 February 2023 17:08 (one month ago) link

just announced a US tour. but I don't think I can go. sucks as they're a great live band (and a great band in general)

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 February 2023 17:43 (one month ago) link

early Voivod is def underrated. people undersell it sometimes because it's very diff from what became their signature sound but I dig it all, esp Rrrrrooooar

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 February 2023 17:47 (one month ago) link

kinda like the early stuff the best… i wonder if jack rabid has heard angel rat or nothingface, they really don’t seem far away from the muscular atmospheric post punk thing he likes.

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:42 (one month ago) link

There's just so many great pummeling moments on Rrroooaaarrr, the way the band talked about it I expected an immature work but they are extremely good songs

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:02 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

From Real Gone Music, reissues of Nothingface and Angel Rat:

Voïvod are nothing short of a legend in their native province of Quebec, and remain one of the most intriguing metal bands ever. Though their early, mid-‘80s albums pegged them as a thrash metal band, within five years their sound had changed dramatically, incorporating elements of prog and psych while maintaining the tricky chord changes and tempo shifts that made them such a fresh voice in the genre. And these two records were key to their stylistic transition; 1989’s Nothingface scaled a commercial peak for the band, and heralded their new direction with a cover of Pink Floyd’s “Astronomy Domine.” Our metallic red pressing marks the first time this essential record has been widely available at retail on vinyl since its original release…grab it while you can! Its follow-up, 1991’s Angel Rat, moved the band further into spacy psychedelic territory with such tracks as "Golem" and the title track. A mesmerizing, moody head trip of a record, produced by Terry Brown of Rush fame and originally only released on vinyl in europe. Metallic blue pressing. Both records have been remastered for vinyl by Peter Moore, and sound spectacular. Good for either cranking your speakers or burrowing deep inside your headphones!
They reissued The Outer Limitsin 2021. More info: https://realgonemusic.com/search?q=Voivod

dow, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

listening to Synchro Anarchy right now, this is really good!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:22 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah their last two have been magnificent. Just pros doing what they love and very well

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:23 (two weeks ago) link

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