The Foo Fighters - Classic or Dud?

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*sigh* Favorite band in high school. Yup. I guess that means someday in the future when I'm middle-aged I'll look back at my CD's and reminisce about the good old days when rock meant something, dammit, and my kids will look at me like I'm the biggest dork that ever lived. I know that's how I feel when my dad talks about Peter Frampton.

But no matter. They still rawk, in my eyes. "Everlong" remains my favorite song of the nineties, possibly favorite song ever. It took me a few listens to get into their new singles, though.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Without sounding too cynical - total dud, crap, shite.

I didn't mind the first record in the light of grunge, but from then on I've been nothing but bored senseless. Not even convinced by Sreynold's claim - 'most dynamic rock single' with that new one. YAWN!

Please convince me otherwise tho...

Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

everlong is cool... most emo-ish top 40 song evah?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the song "See You." It's happy. Other than that, dud.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Kenny's got a point, actually. While I can see how the recent One by One laid on the post-QOTSA heaviosity a little thick for some, and There Is Nothing Left to Lose is unforgivably dull, The Colour and the Shape is a great mainstream-emo record that actually predated stuff like Jimmy Eat World by quite a few years. (Obviously, if you think JEW sucks, this probably won't sway you.) And the first record is probably one of the few one-man-band discs I still kind of like listening to.

Nick Simmons, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked most of The Colour and the Shape and the first album. After those, the only decent song is "Stacked Actors."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 06:13 (seventeen years ago) link

the ultimate "i don't get it" band. one that lots of people -- including people whose tastes i respect -- seem to like. but everytime i hear anything by them, they sound like grunge-gone-corporate blandness (like Pearl Jam, but less so).

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 06:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Never fail to dissapoint me. Every time. In spite of me wanting to like em. Maybe with another vocalist ??

kevin brady (groeuvre), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 07:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Mostly dud for me overall, but I have to hand it to their recording engineers - they all sound great. Call 'em the alt.rock Boston.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 08:43 (seventeen years ago) link

A band who have almost completely passed me by at every stage of their career, despite best mates / girlfriends loving them to bits. neither classic nor dud, but rather 'meh'.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Based on singles alone - eh. Too bubblegum, not enough personality.
Based on albums, their first was damn good.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

The fact that they covered "Baker Street" - classic.
The cover itself - dud.

NO SAXOPHONES??

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Haven't made their 'Venus and Mars' yet

dave q, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Dud for polluting the QOTSA. Does Dave Grohl have to kibbitz with every band on the planet?
Dud for elevating the name Sunny Day Real Estate into a million record reviews as some sort of touchstone
I'd like him as a producer better

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Foo Fighters are quite nice, with proper songs and also making less annoying noise than Nirvana. Clearly better than Nirvana.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i agree with Geir! except for the final sentence.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

nirvana were far more melodic (and better) than the foo fighters. the foos have a few decent singles, but they don't even work as catchy pop music for me. i'm all on for a bit of straightforward punk-pop, but i need some catchy tunes. the foos don't provide.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Nirvana=more melodic
Foo fighters=more Harmonic
Geir=Most Iconic
Me= Least grammatic

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

they are really very poor indeed.
i'm listening to 'the colour and the shape' that i just burned on my i-tunes and i'm already considering deleting it because it's sullying the good name of everything else in my library.

classic: the line "sometimes i feel i'm getting stuck between the handshake and the fuck" from 'my poor brain', and that one riff from 'hey, johnny park!'

dud: everything else, including the stuff i haven't bothered to listen to

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

"Fingernails is pretty.."

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Such a bland, mediocre band. V. heartening to see an almost unanimous dud vote.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate their albums, but the singles are mostly great rock.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

They seem to get progressively worse with each album.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Kenny's original post just about nailed it by calling them his favorite band in high school. They weren't mine, but they seem like a band perfect for that role - so that everything they put out after you got out of high school, whenever that was, was bad. So I LOVE LOVE LOVE the first album, <i>Colour and the Shape</i> still holds up pretty good, I would cherry-pick from <i>There Is Nothing Left To Lose</i>, then I graduated high school and everything since then I've heard the single and found it tuneless and grating. I don't know if they actually changed their sound or anything, but their hold on me was completely lost.

Search: All of <i>Foo Fighters</i>, especially the singles plus "Alone & Easy Target" and "Wattershed"... off TCATS, the singles again ("Everlong" and "My Hero" for pete's sake!) and "New Way Home"... off TINLTL, "Stacked Actors," "Live-In Skin."

There's a bunch of other good stuff on those albums but that's the indispensible stuff for me. Definitely the best post-grunge mainstream rock band on the US charts, IMO.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

someday, someday, I will stop doing that

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i love the first album and the first album only. it's so different from the others, basically because it's a glorified demo tape.

latebloomer, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

"THIS IS A CALL" 4EVER + 4TW

roxymuzak, Saturday, 10 November 2007 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

Dud.

Now, when I was in high school, a lad of just 15, having freshly sold my Howard Jones cassingles, I remember their self-titled debut album.

I was too much of a newb to know most of the material Foo drew their work from on their first album, but I really enjoyed (and still do) the clever pop tunes on the album. Even saw them on tour at a small local venue that year and got Dave's autograph on my flannel shirt (fuck you, it was a fad!) and ticket.

But even as a kid with bad taste, I never really got into The Colour and the Shape. It seemed to me that on that particular album, they became more generic and overproduced, and since then I haven't been a fan.

Their material is better than some of the other mainstream stuff out there, but give me their s/t anyday over what they're making now.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

as a kid with bad taste, I never really got into The Colour and the Shape

Makes sense.

roxymuzak, Monday, 12 November 2007 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Left out two key words in that quote.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

"indie fuck"

roxymuzak, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

rofl. If you're going to pigeonhole someone you might want to be in the vicinity. I'm as much an indie fuck as Ally McBeal was a pornographic television show.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

"as a kid", bro! chillax.

roxymuzak, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

I wasn't aware that my neurons were firing any faster :)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

Hesitantly classic. One great album (Colour), one good album (debut), a string of pretty decent mainstream rock singles (with a few duds tossed in), and a good live show means they can't be a complete dud in my book.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

Otm, though I'd go one farther and dub everything after Colour/Shape a stinkpatch.

roxymuzak, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

I'd say disc 1 of In Your Honor comes fairly close to being as good as the first two albums. Disc 2 really sinks the album's overall batting average, though.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

Dud to the fucking max. I have a lot of hate for the Foo Fighters if only for their being a shining example of radio rock.

Bus Driver Stu, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

o noez!

The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:10 (twelve years ago) link

I hope it's not too late for Pat Smear's pixie dust to help now that he's back.

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:10 (twelve years ago) link

I am a one way motorway
I'm the one that drives away
Then follows you back home
I am a street light shining
I'm a wild light blinding bright
Burning off alone

It's times like these you learn to live again
It's times like these you give and give again
It's times like these you learn to love again
It's times like these time and time again

I am a new day rising
I'm a brand new sky
To hang the stars upon tonight
I am a little divided
Do I stay or run away
And leave it all behind?

It's times like these you learn to live again
It's times like these you give and give again
It's times like these you learn to love again
It's times like these time and time again

This was written by a former member of Nirvana.

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:13 (twelve years ago) link

Not sure what point you're trying to make there, but okay.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

so, Nirvana sucked. Foo Fighters sucked too. what's yr point?

stephen, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

yeah plenty of Nirvana songs have lyrics as lame as that. and none of them have cool 7/8 riffs like that song has.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

it is my belief that There Is Nothing Left To Lose is a very fine power-pop record (cf 'Generator', 'Learning To Fly', 'Aurora')

stevie, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

Too inconsistent to be classic, too many good songs to be dud.

rogermexico., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

like the first album but not enough to listen to it, extremely puzzled by their continued existence and (apparent) vitality

Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

Thematically they shifted from "alternative" jibberish to "DAMN, woman, why can't you stop me from cheating on you" hard rock just as rock stations did, without getting so blatantly macho as to turn off the old fans who can still listen to rock stations.

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

plus Grohl can still write a hook

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

whether or not you like nirvana, its pretty funny what a Hagar Grohl has become when you look back at his roots.

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

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Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 20:03 (four years ago) link

Foos breaking up on my bday as a gift to me but also to hit home that no trace of my youth remains.

dc, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 20:11 (four years ago) link

I can only really name 2 Foo Fighters songs released in the last 11 years, and nothing since 2007 or thereabouts.

// C U R I O S I T Y K I L L E D T H E C A T // LOVE (Turrican), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 20:20 (four years ago) link

i can name a few

You Don't Have Anything
Song For A Man
Adventure #11
Grateful
All Are Content
Blister and Rage
Do Not Follow
Searching For Real
Force Emerge
Main Disconnect

nomar, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 20:29 (four years ago) link

well fuck

http://pitchfork.com/news/63909-foo-fighters-mock-breakup-rumors-with-hilarious-video-and-nick-lachey/

admittedly the video is kinda funny at points

Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 March 2016 04:36 (four years ago) link

Nick Lachey vocals an improvement

Toof Seteltha (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 March 2016 05:01 (four years ago) link

the possibility of them ever breaking up being raised is the biggest improvement

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 March 2016 05:06 (four years ago) link

but it doesn't matter cos you know it will just be Dave Grohl documentaries 24/7 on Netflix in 2020

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 March 2016 05:07 (four years ago) link

more like foo farters

Neanderthal, Thursday, 3 March 2016 05:07 (four years ago) link

more like poo parters

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 March 2016 05:22 (four years ago) link

i can name a few

You Don't Have Anything
Song For A Man
Adventure #11
Grateful
All Are Content
Blister and Rage
Do Not Follow
Searching For Real
Force Emerge
Main Disconnect

You made those up!

(didn't you?)

Mark G, Thursday, 3 March 2016 11:25 (four years ago) link

Well, he's done, done and he's onto the next one. (you see what I did there? Forgot to repeat that line 17/5 times, that's what)

Mark G, Thursday, 3 March 2016 11:28 (four years ago) link

17.5 but nm

Mark G, Thursday, 3 March 2016 11:29 (four years ago) link

what a bummer

flappy bird, Thursday, 3 March 2016 20:14 (four years ago) link

their joke video only made me wish nick lachey were the frontman of the foo fighters

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 March 2016 20:16 (four years ago) link

me too. he's good!

flappy bird, Thursday, 3 March 2016 20:51 (four years ago) link

i heard a song on the radio while going to walmart the other day. it had this grownup sadman chorus part and the guitars got all chunky for a minute at the end. i went home and sang it to my cat who said it was foos. then i listened to it a couple more times on youtube. it's okay. foo fighters!

leet gentlemen's club (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 March 2016 20:58 (four years ago) link

[saint cecilia]

leet gentlemen's club (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 March 2016 21:00 (four years ago) link

I GOT ANOTHA CONFESSION TO MAAAAAAAAAYKE

Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 3 March 2016 21:11 (four years ago) link

"bands you were surprised to learn had not broken up yet"

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 4 March 2016 01:47 (four years ago) link

i heard a song on the radio while going to walmart the other day. it had this grownup sadman chorus part and the guitars got all chunky for a minute at the end. i went home and sang it to my cat who said it was foos. then i listened to it a couple more times on youtube. it's okay. foo fighters!

― leet gentlemen's club (contenderizer), Thursday, March 3, 2016 3:58 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah "Saint Cecilia" is nice. i find it funny that they went across the country recording their last full-length in 8 different studios and painstakingly documenting the process and wound up with probably their worst album, and then during the tour they knocked out an EP recorded on buses and hotel rooms that's a bit lighter on its feet.

some dude, Friday, 4 March 2016 02:16 (four years ago) link

first album is sick

billstevejim, Friday, 4 March 2016 05:53 (four years ago) link

I love the third one. A great power-pop album.

pantsuit aficionado (stevie), Friday, 4 March 2016 08:55 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

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yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Sunday, 24 July 2016 06:02 (four years ago) link

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I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 July 2016 06:03 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifwc5xgI3QM

how's life, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:02 (three years ago) link

These guys are surely the alternative rock Status Quo by this stage? Like, everything after their third or fourth album just blurs into one huge fucking mush of samey to me now.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 5 June 2017 18:53 (three years ago) link

that new single seems to change shape enough to keep my attention

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 5 June 2017 18:55 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

i really wish i loved this band more as things like the recent rick astley thing and this are rather wonderful.

http://www.nme.com/news/music/foo-fighters-under-pressure-cover-student-2152109?utm_content=manual&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nme

mark e, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:45 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

I watched the perfectly enjoyable THOR last week and it was almost ruined after the fact in the end credits thanks to what ended up being an especially terrible Foo Fighters song.

this is a bad band.

omar little, Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:09 (two years ago) link

they should have quit 20 years ago

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:12 (two years ago) link

i got another confession to make!

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:37 (two years ago) link

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UTM.

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:36 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

i'm almost stunned every time i hear a post-Everlong foos track because they're always vv featureless and bland and despite Grohl being the wacky chive king throne god and future twice-inducted RNR HOFer there's zero personality and songcraft that comes out in any of their music, and even the early superior stuff is fairly blank corporate uber-competency completely divorced from his persona.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 00:46 (seven months ago) link

when hate-shazamming any generic rock song i'm unfamiliar with, the answer is always "foo fighters"

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 00:47 (seven months ago) link

They are very My First Rock Band.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 00:51 (seven months ago) link

excellent summary omar little.

i used to think of them as "whatever album came out while you were still in high school is their last good album," but maybe i was wrongly generalizing from my own experience where that would be "there is nothing left to lose." tho in hindsight that only has like 3-4 tracks i'd still consider more or less good, hmmmmmm

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 01:53 (seven months ago) link

I still think There Is Nothing Left To Lose is a very very strong power-pop record

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:50 (seven months ago) link

I keep getting YT clips recommended to me of FF gigs where they seem to be endlessly getting fans up on stage to play their own songs or a parade of classic rock cover versions and fucking about doing crowd-pleasing goofy things, it's all a bit Vegas.

The other guys (apart from Hawkins, perhaps) perform like they are simply there for the paycheck, Ghrol can keep up the illusion that they are a real band and not just a vessel for his songs, but he really should have just stuck it out as a solo artist, like a Gen-X Billy Joel.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 12:45 (seven months ago) link

there is nothing left to lose has “aurora” and “generator,” the best foo fighters deep cuts. they’ve never released a completely solid album but yeah the albums get markedly worse after that one. (except for wasting light which was weirdly pretty good)

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 12:50 (seven months ago) link

"live-in skin" was my personal jam deep cut from that one. i wish i could re-inhabit the excitement when my buddy and i first scored a leaked radio promo mp3 of "stacked actors" and believed the impending album would be one of the hardest-rocking CDs ever pressed.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 13:47 (seven months ago) link

"when hate-shazamming any generic rock song i'm unfamiliar with, the answer is always "foo fighters""

--Nick Cave

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:23 (seven months ago) link

Foo Fighters are 21st Century butt-rock.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:32 (seven months ago) link

I think the second album and *maybe* the first are both "completely solid"

Wasting Light is probably close ... like 84% solid

Grohl has a forever pass, he can do what he wants as long as he wants and I'll still like him ... as long as I don't have to listen to the albums.

alpine static, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:42 (seven months ago) link

I still think There Is Nothing Left To Lose is a very very strong power-pop record

― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, February 12, 2020 2:50 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

“Aurora” is so great. There was a point maybe 10 or so years ago where I thought Paramore could do a great cover version of that album.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:45 (seven months ago) link

Aurora, Generator, MIA, Stacked Actors, Learning To Fly, Ain't It The Life, Live-In Skin... There isn't a song I'd skip, and there's quite a few I genuinely love. After that, his hit-rate gets spotty, and he's definitely more a craftsman than someone given to maverick inspiration, and he'll forever be living in the shadow of his first band, and he'll never be cool, but I certainly reckon Foo Fighters remain a net positive. And Sonic Highways was a great TV show (if a lumpen and patchy LP).

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:07 (seven months ago) link

xp Grohl knows what he's doing. Hundreds of people rely on his success in order to keep working. They could easily record an edgy record if they really wanted to, but it would be too much of a business risk or whatever.

billstevejim, Thursday, 13 February 2020 03:45 (seven months ago) link

I thought "Rope" was good actually, and that was 2010s. But I don't recall if it charted that well.

billstevejim, Thursday, 13 February 2020 03:51 (seven months ago) link


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