The Foo Fighters - Classic or Dud?

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*sigh* Favorite band in high school. Yup. I guess that means someday in the future when I'm middle-aged I'll look back at my CD's and reminisce about the good old days when rock meant something, dammit, and my kids will look at me like I'm the biggest dork that ever lived. I know that's how I feel when my dad talks about Peter Frampton.

But no matter. They still rawk, in my eyes. "Everlong" remains my favorite song of the nineties, possibly favorite song ever. It took me a few listens to get into their new singles, though.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Without sounding too cynical - total dud, crap, shite.

I didn't mind the first record in the light of grunge, but from then on I've been nothing but bored senseless. Not even convinced by Sreynold's claim - 'most dynamic rock single' with that new one. YAWN!

Please convince me otherwise tho...

Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link

everlong is cool... most emo-ish top 40 song evah?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the song "See You." It's happy. Other than that, dud.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Kenny's got a point, actually. While I can see how the recent One by One laid on the post-QOTSA heaviosity a little thick for some, and There Is Nothing Left to Lose is unforgivably dull, The Colour and the Shape is a great mainstream-emo record that actually predated stuff like Jimmy Eat World by quite a few years. (Obviously, if you think JEW sucks, this probably won't sway you.) And the first record is probably one of the few one-man-band discs I still kind of like listening to.

Nick Simmons, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked most of The Colour and the Shape and the first album. After those, the only decent song is "Stacked Actors."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 06:13 (nineteen years ago) link

the ultimate "i don't get it" band. one that lots of people -- including people whose tastes i respect -- seem to like. but everytime i hear anything by them, they sound like grunge-gone-corporate blandness (like Pearl Jam, but less so).

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 06:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Never fail to dissapoint me. Every time. In spite of me wanting to like em. Maybe with another vocalist ??

kevin brady (groeuvre), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 07:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Mostly dud for me overall, but I have to hand it to their recording engineers - they all sound great. Call 'em the alt.rock Boston.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 08:43 (nineteen years ago) link

A band who have almost completely passed me by at every stage of their career, despite best mates / girlfriends loving them to bits. neither classic nor dud, but rather 'meh'.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Based on singles alone - eh. Too bubblegum, not enough personality.
Based on albums, their first was damn good.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The fact that they covered "Baker Street" - classic.
The cover itself - dud.

NO SAXOPHONES??

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Haven't made their 'Venus and Mars' yet

dave q, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud for polluting the QOTSA. Does Dave Grohl have to kibbitz with every band on the planet?
Dud for elevating the name Sunny Day Real Estate into a million record reviews as some sort of touchstone
I'd like him as a producer better

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Foo Fighters are quite nice, with proper songs and also making less annoying noise than Nirvana. Clearly better than Nirvana.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i agree with Geir! except for the final sentence.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

nirvana were far more melodic (and better) than the foo fighters. the foos have a few decent singles, but they don't even work as catchy pop music for me. i'm all on for a bit of straightforward punk-pop, but i need some catchy tunes. the foos don't provide.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Nirvana=more melodic
Foo fighters=more Harmonic
Geir=Most Iconic
Me= Least grammatic

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

they are really very poor indeed.
i'm listening to 'the colour and the shape' that i just burned on my i-tunes and i'm already considering deleting it because it's sullying the good name of everything else in my library.

classic: the line "sometimes i feel i'm getting stuck between the handshake and the fuck" from 'my poor brain', and that one riff from 'hey, johnny park!'

dud: everything else, including the stuff i haven't bothered to listen to

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

"Fingernails is pretty.."

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Such a bland, mediocre band. V. heartening to see an almost unanimous dud vote.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I hate their albums, but the singles are mostly great rock.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

They seem to get progressively worse with each album.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Kenny's original post just about nailed it by calling them his favorite band in high school. They weren't mine, but they seem like a band perfect for that role - so that everything they put out after you got out of high school, whenever that was, was bad. So I LOVE LOVE LOVE the first album, <i>Colour and the Shape</i> still holds up pretty good, I would cherry-pick from <i>There Is Nothing Left To Lose</i>, then I graduated high school and everything since then I've heard the single and found it tuneless and grating. I don't know if they actually changed their sound or anything, but their hold on me was completely lost.

Search: All of <i>Foo Fighters</i>, especially the singles plus "Alone & Easy Target" and "Wattershed"... off TCATS, the singles again ("Everlong" and "My Hero" for pete's sake!) and "New Way Home"... off TINLTL, "Stacked Actors," "Live-In Skin."

There's a bunch of other good stuff on those albums but that's the indispensible stuff for me. Definitely the best post-grunge mainstream rock band on the US charts, IMO.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

someday, someday, I will stop doing that

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i love the first album and the first album only. it's so different from the others, basically because it's a glorified demo tape.

latebloomer, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

"THIS IS A CALL" 4EVER + 4TW

roxymuzak, Saturday, 10 November 2007 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Dud.

Now, when I was in high school, a lad of just 15, having freshly sold my Howard Jones cassingles, I remember their self-titled debut album.

I was too much of a newb to know most of the material Foo drew their work from on their first album, but I really enjoyed (and still do) the clever pop tunes on the album. Even saw them on tour at a small local venue that year and got Dave's autograph on my flannel shirt (fuck you, it was a fad!) and ticket.

But even as a kid with bad taste, I never really got into The Colour and the Shape. It seemed to me that on that particular album, they became more generic and overproduced, and since then I haven't been a fan.

Their material is better than some of the other mainstream stuff out there, but give me their s/t anyday over what they're making now.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

as a kid with bad taste, I never really got into The Colour and the Shape

Makes sense.

roxymuzak, Monday, 12 November 2007 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Left out two key words in that quote.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

"indie fuck"

roxymuzak, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

rofl. If you're going to pigeonhole someone you might want to be in the vicinity. I'm as much an indie fuck as Ally McBeal was a pornographic television show.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

"as a kid", bro! chillax.

roxymuzak, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I wasn't aware that my neurons were firing any faster :)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Hesitantly classic. One great album (Colour), one good album (debut), a string of pretty decent mainstream rock singles (with a few duds tossed in), and a good live show means they can't be a complete dud in my book.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Otm, though I'd go one farther and dub everything after Colour/Shape a stinkpatch.

roxymuzak, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd say disc 1 of In Your Honor comes fairly close to being as good as the first two albums. Disc 2 really sinks the album's overall batting average, though.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Dud to the fucking max. I have a lot of hate for the Foo Fighters if only for their being a shining example of radio rock.

Bus Driver Stu, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link

o noez!

The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope it's not too late for Pat Smear's pixie dust to help now that he's back.

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I am a one way motorway
I'm the one that drives away
Then follows you back home
I am a street light shining
I'm a wild light blinding bright
Burning off alone

It's times like these you learn to live again
It's times like these you give and give again
It's times like these you learn to love again
It's times like these time and time again

I am a new day rising
I'm a brand new sky
To hang the stars upon tonight
I am a little divided
Do I stay or run away
And leave it all behind?

It's times like these you learn to live again
It's times like these you give and give again
It's times like these you learn to love again
It's times like these time and time again

This was written by a former member of Nirvana.

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure what point you're trying to make there, but okay.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

so, Nirvana sucked. Foo Fighters sucked too. what's yr point?

stephen, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah plenty of Nirvana songs have lyrics as lame as that. and none of them have cool 7/8 riffs like that song has.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

it is my belief that There Is Nothing Left To Lose is a very fine power-pop record (cf 'Generator', 'Learning To Fly', 'Aurora')

stevie, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Too inconsistent to be classic, too many good songs to be dud.

rogermexico., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

like the first album but not enough to listen to it, extremely puzzled by their continued existence and (apparent) vitality

Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Thematically they shifted from "alternative" jibberish to "DAMN, woman, why can't you stop me from cheating on you" hard rock just as rock stations did, without getting so blatantly macho as to turn off the old fans who can still listen to rock stations.

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

plus Grohl can still write a hook

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

whether or not you like nirvana, its pretty funny what a Hagar Grohl has become when you look back at his roots.

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

violet <3

the crowd singing along & her shyly smiling was so beautiful

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:30 (one month ago) link

Gaz!!!!

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:55 (one month ago) link

lol that he brought out his own mike?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:58 (one month ago) link

I think this is the first time I've ever heard Rami's keyboard

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:00 (one month ago) link

Crowd thought they were getting Roger & Brian

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:08 (one month ago) link

FUCK YES

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:10 (one month ago) link

Holy shit is that Omar Hakim?

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:17 (one month ago) link

yep!!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:20 (one month ago) link

Dave must have been like YYZ? Nah bruv

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:21 (one month ago) link

Geddy Lee & Geggy Tah, together at last

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:24 (one month ago) link

that was incredible

also i love that geddy and alex barely break a sweat cycling through three songs w two drummers who are both exerting themeselves to the fullest extent <3

same when they did “let there be rock” w brian johnson - foos are like half the age of acdc & everyone including lars were already gassed by the bridge lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:26 (one month ago) link

My theory about Lars is that he has a really, really bad back but it's not common knowledge, he's always up off the drum stool as soon as there's a break in a song.

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:36 (one month ago) link

Wouldn't it be great if they've flown in Kiss Guy, to do Monkey Wrench

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:47 (one month ago) link

sam ryder owned that stage like he was born in wembley stadium holy shit

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:49 (one month ago) link

Oh damn, now that looks amazing

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:53 (one month ago) link

Years ago, I saw Queen + Paul Rodgers do a gig at the terrible Wembley Arena (Roger even apologised for the sound halfway through) and Brian came to the front alone to do LOML and I had an involuntary meltdown, it was so lovely.

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:56 (one month ago) link

Nandi should just be their drummer going forward :)

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:28 (one month ago) link

Missed the first 30 minutes but from what I've seen I don't think there's been anything wrong tonight. The long gaps between acts maybe.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:32 (one month ago) link

Paul :))

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:46 (one month ago) link

All this endless fucking around changing drumkits, I suppose it's apt

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:49 (one month ago) link

this has been good, but this Oh Darling is not.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:52 (one month ago) link

disagree

this show is like christmas for me

also its been making me cry on the regular

so many of these bands/artists have already lost ppl in their lineups so the layers of meaning going on are v overwhelming at times

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:53 (one month ago) link

I was just thinking about that; there's a lot of people who performed today who will never play for an audience this size again, if at all.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:59 (one month ago) link

Aurora <3 <3 <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:01 (one month ago) link

dave wasn’t kidding - shane hawkins pounded the shit outta those things!

i dunno if i’ve ever sat in my pyjamas singing & crying for this long in the middle of the day lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:29 (one month ago) link

I got a late start watching this, but Brian May really is the Mr. Rogers of hard rock.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:42 (one month ago) link

this is really something

Taylor Hawkins' 16-year-old son, Shane, does his father proud as he sits behind the kit for @FooFighters' performance of "My Hero."#FooFighters #TaylorHawkinsTributepic.twitter.com/PU705CpO2R

— CONSEQUENCE (@consequence) September 3, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:49 (one month ago) link

Oh God I just got to Times Like These 😭

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:52 (one month ago) link

yeah that destroyed me

like in a way i couldn’t believe he was playing & hosting the whole thing because its gotta be still so painful but of course he’ll do it because he’s dave & taylor’s family deserve it & he doesn’t know how not to — but when he broke down part of me was like i wish he didn’t feel like he had to

you know? it’s so much to carry & perform
& try to power through

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:58 (one month ago) link

also rufus taylor did an amazing job
half thought to myself shit if this is an audition he’s got the job, the whole band was looking at him with heart-eyes emojis

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 22:37 (one month ago) link

He also looks kinda like Taylor, minus 20 years.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 3 September 2022 22:54 (one month ago) link

right!? crazy

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 23:17 (one month ago) link

taylor minus taylor

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Sunday, 4 September 2022 00:07 (one month ago) link

Son of Taylor

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 4 September 2022 00:14 (one month ago) link

I wonder if MTV or someone is planning to stream the Los Angeles gig, I would think so given the charity aspect.

MaresNest, Sunday, 4 September 2022 11:18 (one month ago) link

Looks like there'll be a lot of crossover in the guests from yesterday, but a few LA-only appearances (Alanis, Joan Jett, etc). WVH again, Rush again, Homme again, Brian and Roger again.

https://www.foofighters.com/news/first-los-angeles-lineup-announce/

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 September 2022 17:31 (one month ago) link

oh great! cool that Alanis will perform <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 September 2022 18:06 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2KnD7sfpoA

here's the complete clip of "my hero" with shane hawkins

cannot describe the way this makes me feel

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 September 2022 18:54 (one month ago) link

That was fantastic. Aw, Pat hugging the kid at the end.

Has Dave had a perm?

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Sunday, 4 September 2022 19:37 (one month ago) link

Pat seems like such an open, joyful/caring dude.

I think Dave’s just in need of a hot oil treatment. Dry scraggly just like mine :(

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:07 (one month ago) link

Par Smear lost band members in the Germs, Nirvana and now in Foo Fighters, too

StanM, Monday, 5 September 2022 03:38 (one month ago) link

Shane looks like he stepped out of a 70s Disney animation. Beautiful clip, one thing I really enjoyed was the band working with him to keep it all stuck together so well. Wonderful musical and human skills.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 5 September 2022 05:20 (one month ago) link

I only caught a moment of highlights but I enjoyed the guy from the Darkness out there in a silver jump suit open to the pubes.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 5 September 2022 05:23 (one month ago) link

Saw 60 seconds of "My Hero" and I was shattered, I don't know how I could manage to watch the whole concert.

Sam Weller, Monday, 5 September 2022 14:00 (one month ago) link

Sam still pretty shook that Gaz and the lads put their differences aside to reform.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Monday, 5 September 2022 15:52 (one month ago) link

Pat Smear lost band members in the Germs, Nirvana and now in Foo Fighters, too

― StanM, Sunday, September 4, 2022 10:38 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I hadn’t thought about this, but yeah.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 September 2022 18:28 (one month ago) link

yeah well that happens when you live to be 150 like Pat Smear

akm, Monday, 5 September 2022 19:24 (one month ago) link


same when they did “let there be rock” w brian johnson - foos are like half the age of acdc & everyone including lars were already gassed by the bridge lol

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, September 3, 2022 2:26 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Of all the drums at this event Lars is about the last one I would pick to play an AC/DC song given his extreme allergy to anything close to a groove

The Pretenders I thought were great

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 16:09 (four weeks ago) link

james gang reunion was my personal fave but i enjoyed pretty much everything

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:12 (four weeks ago) link

i think i like the Medicine at Midnight album more now than i did than when it came out

love dies young is v good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=val3oj4wpxQ

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 September 2022 02:11 (two weeks ago) link


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