― Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 28 February 2004 10:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 February 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 29 February 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Clarke B., Sunday, 29 February 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link
I got the dual disc BBC Recordingsdisc and, well, holy fucking shit. Multiply all previous "they shoulda been huge" comments by a factor of 100.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 September 2004 07:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine. To Hell with you and your gradual evolution! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 11 April 2005 07:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 December 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 24 December 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 December 2005 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 23 February 2006 08:16 (eighteen years ago) link
The SoundHouse of LoveChameleonsEcho and the Bunnymen
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Sounds like a plan to me!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 February 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 24 February 2006 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 24 February 2006 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Am listening to All Fall Down this very second and "Monument" just finished. Dr. C said it a couple of years ago so I don't have to.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― San Carlos, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.myspace.com/magicbullets
― San Carlos, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link
I suspect I'd probably think Winning was a lot nicer if the 'I'm gonna make it after all!' sentiment wasn't offet by the 'Hang on a minute, this guy jumped in front of a train three years ago!' realisation
In my case, I now realize that I have the exact opposite feeling about the Sound and Adrian B. -- when it comes to figures like, say, Jim Morrison or Ian Curtis, their sound and the post-death cults (for lack of a better word) combine to create a resultant expectation that is often hard to properly escape, especially if like me you encounter them well after the fact.
Admittedly I did the same with the Sound as well, hearing them first well after their breakup but before Adrian died, but like, say, Billy Mackenzie and the Associates, when I hear the Sound I hear life, I hear exultance for lack of a better word. For all the most intense moments that Adrian can create with his words and singing, there is a grace and soaring resonance that causes me to rise, not sink. The comparisons with U2 and Bono don't work for me because there is something here that is strong but not overbearing, a true warmth -- and the more I think about so many of the band's contemporaries, the more that seems to be near unique, that the lighter singing voice (if only by degrees in some cases) compared to others is what gives the Sound its unique feel still for me.
I hear the Sound and I hear an embrace, not hectoring or rabble-rousing. That to me is a true gift.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
That for me is spot on, and nicely put to boot.
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, that sort of warmth you talk about is really evident on "Fatal Flaw" - that sort of falling-into-place moment when it reaches the motif that repeats to the end is one of my favourite drawn-out repetitive outros of ooh, ever.
― Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link
You'd have hoped that he'd weathered the storm, but by all accounts he got more ill as time went on.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 3 March 2006 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link
"It's 1976 and Tim and his pal Adrian Borland (who at the time was in a punk band called 'The Outsiders' and later on fronted a band called 'The Sound') and an amazing rock drummer called Bruce Bizland (no one knows what happened to him) make a band and do about two gigs then stop...they sounded a bit like the rocky instrumental bits on that David Bowie album 'The Man Who Sold The World' didn't they. They never gave their band a name either."
I've often meant to investigate The Sound but never got round to it. Maybe sometime I will.
― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Friday, 3 March 2006 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 3 March 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
What a great song... I wish he had sung all screamy like that more. Great great band.
they were v.good live - I must have seen them 10 times or soAhhhh! $*#@&!!!
― giantBehemoth (makelove), Thursday, 16 March 2006 07:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 16 March 2006 08:11 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.renascent.co.uk/
...then go down to the albums section. Please to note the *FIVE* live Sound albums from 1981 to 1985 now available -- they're all taken from Dutch radio broadcasts, and all are midpriced at that.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 23 June 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ricki Belloni (Pangolino 3), Thursday, 13 July 2006 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link
That thread on Crawling Chaos reminded me of these guys; I saw that same OGWT clip linked above on one of those late night 'Whistle Test Years' programmes a few years ago, and they blew me away. But I never got around to picking up the Renascent reissues, and they're out of print now as the licence expired. Supposely Warner Bros is supposed to be re-releasing them, but when? Anyone heard anything?
― MacDara, Sunday, 20 May 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Listening to All Fall Down today and am convinced that it was way ahead of it's time - while simultaneously being a spiritual successor (however you wish to define that) to Scary Monsters
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link
classic
a. party of the mind is an amazing song b. total recall is one of the best-ever semi-bitter post-breakup songs c. some of adrian borland's solo stuff is heart-breaking
― dell, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Too little discussion about this amazing band that seems destined to remain lost in time. Their catalog was out of print for years, back thanks to Renascent and now back out of print and going for stupid money on Amazon (except the live albums, which is better than nothing). Looks like their last album, "Thunder Up" is on eMusic. Wasn't Warner supposed to reissue their first 3 albums?
Anyway, The Sound surely kept me sane when I was young - such passionate music, and lyrics that kept saying "Keep going!" "Winning" still revs my engine. Any other appreciators of the sadly missed Adrian Borland?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Classic because I made a killing on Lion's Mouth; wasn't fussed by the music, sadly. Still, the profit meant I could buy more records.
― brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, on Spotify too.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, 24 April 2022 22:53 (two years ago) link
this incoming second layer comp popped up on bandcamp today:
https://daily.bandcamp.com/album-of-the-day/second-layer-courts-or-wars-review
hadn't actually heard 'courts of wars' before... fuuck, amazing song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_01T9uFgew
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
'or' not 'of' obv
yeah I first heard second layer through that song on a Messthetics comp. So cool!!
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:40 (one year ago) link
“that song” - courts or wars
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
(wide eyes emoji)
i'll be back in later with thoughts.
― kiss me while the world decays (Austin), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link
Second Layer is arguably more Joy Division THAN Joy Division. Fantastic, singular work - wonderfully dark and deep.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link