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thanks! i was worried that these were all going to be like those Fall cd rereleases that were straight from vinyl, skips and all. i listened through the rest of the cds and the only other things i heard pops on were the two "in den garten pharaos" bonus tracks.

i'm really amazed at how good these albums are. and i've only got about half of them. apparently when you line all the cds up the spines will form an image which i believe is the same one of fricke on the back cover. the repetitive booklets seem kind of lazy but whatever.

anyone notice how Black Dice sound like "Affenstunde"?

amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm also disappointed about the general booklets and the complete lack of album specific content...
I got Letzte Tage, which one should I go for next?

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"Einsjager", "Das Hohelied Salomos" and "Herz aus Glas" are in a similar (rocky) vein

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

where can the full "spirit of peace" thing be found? is it on a rerelease?

amon (eman), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
as Dadaismus mentions upthread, many Popol Vuh fans await some of the unreleased? music from the films Aguirre and The Great Ecstasy Of The Woodcarver Steiner. THE tune I want (have wanted for 20+ years since I first saw Aguirre) features in both, if I remember. it appears in Aguirre while the roiling river is shown - as the relentless chaotic grind of nature burbles furiously - eternal suspended out-of-time chords like a bowed guitar effect (volume control fade-ups?) sound. this same music opens Steiner, soundtracking his slow-motion flight.

the music for both films is credited to Fricke. and it's easily possible to imagine this piece made by Popol Vuh, although it doesn't sound quite like anything else I've heard by them. could it be the piece is by someone else? (if so, ideas please?!) however, similar chords seem to sound in some more Vuh-like music that appears later in Steiner - so maybe it's just an intro to a longer piece.

due to the number of comments all around (check internet) about unreleased Herzog Popol Vuh, I'm guessing the same piece struck a chord with others...

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 18 March 2006 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone know if there's a place on the web that has Popol Vuh's lyrics? I want to figure out a line that Fricke is singing on one of the songs on Seligspreisung...

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.venco.com.pl/~acrux/selig.htm

1. "Selig sind, die da hungern
Selig sind, die da dürsten nach Gerechtigkeit
Ja, sie sollen satt werden." 5:59

2. "Tanz der Chassidim" 3:12

3. "Selig sind, die da hier weinen
Ja, sie sollen später lachen." 5:07

4. "Selig sind, die da willig arm sind
Ja, ihrer ist das Himmelreich." 3:10

5. "Selig sind, die da Leid tragen
Ja, sie sollen getröstet werden." 3:39

6. "Selig sind die Sanfmütigen
Ja, sie werden einst die Erde erben." 2:30

7. "Selig sind, die da reinen Herzens sind
Ja, sie sollen Gott schauen." 2:33

8. "Ja, sie sollen Gottes Kinder heissen
Agnus dei, Agnus dei." 2:39

o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Excellent! Thanks a lot for the post...
I was trying to figure out Track #6 (breathtaking song). I caught the "Ja, sie werden" but couldn't make out the rest of it.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

actually the rest of that site is pretty good. thought this was kind of funny:

"YOGA is an unauthorized release. Some Indian musicians visited me in my studio, and somebody else took the tapes and sold them under the name of Popol Vuh, but it had nothing to do with Popol Vuh, really. I'm playing harmonium and organ. I think it was released in Italy."

Florian Fricke, interview on Eurock.com

o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Pashmina, does the Agape-Agape remastered CD sound worse than the vinyl record to you? I'm wondering if I should bother getting it on CD - I'd like to do this with many of my albums for space reasons, but I don't want to get something that sounds worse than what I already have.

Pangolino 2, Monday, 17 April 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

letzte tage letzte nachte is so good!

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, Letzte is still far and away my favorite of theirs...The "Harum Dei Rarum Dei" chant is very beautiful, the way it shifts from minor to major key.

Joe (Joe), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Das Hohelied Salomos is where it's at.

nervous.gif (eman), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 04:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I read that SPV are reissuing Sei Still, weisse ICH BIN, For You and Me, Cobra Verde and Brueder des Schattens, Soehne des Lichts on CD in their digipack series. Didn't their edition of the Nosferatu soundtrack have all of "Brueder des Schattens..." except with a short version of the title song along the music that was on the old "Nosferatu" LP? I was hoping they'd be clearing up some of the weirdness in the catalogue with the reissues, but maybe not. I guess "Spirit of Peace" isn't out yet, either, but they'll be dealing with all the different labels Popol Vuh were on in the late 70's onward, so maybe these last ones are trickier.

Ricki Belloni (Pangolino 3), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Just picked up Sei Still, weisse ICH BIN. really nice choir vocals throughout. Now all I need is Brueder des Schattens, Soehne des Lichts.
I also saw a new Popol Vuh compilation on SPV called 70s Progressives. As far as I could tell it was stuff from other albums but not entirely sure. Anyone know if any of the tracks are unreleased? Here is the Amazon listing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F7MB1Y/104-2466127-0630344?v=glance&n=5174

Q('.'Q) (eman), Saturday, 10 June 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

woot

a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

oh i guess i need cobra verde too. man i'm so ghey for this group.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

and thx for the emusic link, i'm using the free trial to get them shits

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually a lot of the bonus trax on these releases look as if they're well worth having - but do they actually give you any proper information on what they are and where they're from? The titles of some of the tracks look suspiciously made up too - i.e., record company find untitled piece on tape, "Uhhhhhhhh, what will we call this one?" "How 'bout "King Minos Part 4" or "Aguirre Part 27"?"

Il mio nome e' Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 June 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

There's no information about the extras. The reissues are dissapointing generally in this respect.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 June 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

haa yeah bonus tracks.. more like bogus tracks. they remind me of the bonus tracks on the amon duul 2 remasters where they are just slightly varied alternate versions of tracks on other albums. i think the only exception to this so far is the long one on "affenstunde", which turns out to be better than the actual album. otherwise they aren't really anything to get worked up about. if i get a chance, i'll go through and list matching bonus tracks to albums.

listened to some of cobra verde last night, half of it sounds like a gas album without the buried house thump, fucking awesome.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link

yo eman, if you want to settle for a tape of Brueder Des Schattens... let me know. hell, i could probably rip the thing. it's only like four tracks or something.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

ian, got it already but thanks. i'll probably end up buying it anyway

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the two bonus tracks on In den Gärten des Pharaos treated me really well. reminded me of that '71 beat club TV piece, when they were just doing slabs of moog drone -- very simple stuff but their aim is true

that 'Train Through Time' track on the Affenstunde reissue I like better than the album!

the Aguirre bonus track is basically the title theme one more time with one extra overdub, probably not worth buying the album again if you've already got it, but I don't mind hearing it three times a sitting

very curious about that 70's Progressives compilation, someone figure out what that is and post back.

I still don't have all the 70's albums, I'm kind of spacing out the purchases at this point, savoring each new one. I just finally bought Hosianna Mantra, zero gravity

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

70's progs comp is just like "the best-loved songs of PV," as far as i could tell - i just saw it for the first time the other night

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

tracklisting for "70s Progressives" w/ album names

1. Wanderer Am Himmel 8:18 (?)
2. They Danced, They Laughed, As Of Old 4:50 (Agape-Agape)
3. Eastern Sunrise 4:12 (?)
4. Am Tor 3:47 (?)
5. Love-Love 5:24 (Agape-Agape)
6. Der Große Krieger 3:10 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
7. Wo Bist Du? 5:40 (Der Nacht der Seele)
8. Dort Ist Der Weg 4:29 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
9. In Deine Hände 3:01 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
10. Calling You 4:42 (?)
11. Oh Wie Nah Ist Der Weg Hinab 4:36 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)

the 4 tracks i couldn't place only had a reference to what looks like another comp. called "florian fricke"
http://www.progarchives.com//Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6250

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

AMG sez they're from Herz aus Glas

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ah there you go then. what's up with the track titles differing between amazon and amg?

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Downloaded three albums *for free* from emusic last night, Affenstunde, Hosianna Mantra, and Einsager whatever. Could have had four if it wasn't for the extra tracks, and too lazy to work this out beforehand, so I got three Colourbox tracks as well.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Just got the two fer, Einsjäger und Siebenjäger/Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte at Wayside, a great deal for $18. I'm loving the serpentine guitar solos on Letzte -- a few moments almost sounded like Television!

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

... I often describe Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing as a cross between David Gilmour and Tom Verlaine... in fact, I'm surprised I hadn't done so on this thread till now!

One Man's Mede Is Another Man's Persian (Dada), Friday, 8 September 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Up above I forgot to mention this album:

http://www.enricobassi.it/playsmozartfrontpic.JPG

... which I haven't heard, but I think I can imagine what it sounds like, and which I used to see a lot in one record shop in Glasgow and almost bought until I realised I was a fan not a fool

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:00 (seventeen years ago) link

So, are these albums all worthless then or what?

Sing, For Song Drives Away The Wolves
Shepherd's Symphony
For Me And You
City Raga

I see them around cheap-ish, but life's too short to be a completist if they really are that bad.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I've played "Shepherd's Symphony" once and "City Raga", errrrrrrr, once also - so I wouldn't bother, personally. I quite like some of "For Me And You" (the bits that sound like Popol Vuh funnily enough). Never heard "Sing, For Song Drives Away The Wolves", it's re-recordings or re-mixings (sic) of old material, don't see the attraction in that.

However, have heard good reports on "Messa Di Orfeo", which is from 1999ish, have never actually seen a copy tho.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Messa di Orfeo seems kind of hard to find. It was only issued by some European label. I spent a while looking for it on Gemm.com, but never found a really good price. From what I heard of it on last.fm, it sounds amazing though. Way way better than the other Popol Vuh album I ended up buying.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Played "City Raga" again, it's rubbish, avoid it like the plague, I beseech thee

TS: Mick Ralphs v. Ariel Bender (Dada), Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing is awesome and inspirational. Remember when ILM was informative ?

Geordie Racer, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link

messa di orfeo is actually pretty good

am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Still not heard it. It's Florian tho and not Guido Hieronymous clogging everything up and ruining it?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

right

Messa di Orfeo (Spalax, 1998) documents a 1998 multimedia installation by Fricke (keyboards), Fiedler (video), Guillermina De Germano (vocals) and Maya Rose (vocals)

am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

This reminds me that I gotta get Cobra Verde OST this month when my eMusic creds refresh.

The big question about Fichelscher is where the hell is he? What does he do with his hands instead of doing that Kleiner Krieger thang?

Jon Lewis, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

hey the search engine's finding this thread again, it was lost for a while. I was trying to wake it up to say how good Messa di Orfeo is.

the first time the recitational comes on, I thought 'ok I could listen to that woman's voice forever', and was happyy when it turns out they were thinking exactly the same thing. and the return to electronics really works -- the sampled crickets & insect harmonics are great. finally found a copy of the CD this weekend and the booklet's filled with color photos of the recording sessions & installation, including De Germano at the mic and a picture of the huge chorus.

also been listening to Hosianna Mantra a _lot_ these last few months. you really have to be in a wispy mood I guess but sometimes I think this one's my favorite

Milton Parker, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

lately i've been listening to:
-bruder des schattens-sohne des lichts
-Letzte Tage, Letzte Nächte
-Herz aus Glas

that mid seventies stuff reallllly does it for me.

ian, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

remembered to check for pv on emusic, got four albs, and the first three tracks of hosianna mantra have been blowing my mind all day

69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

i guess i gotta listen to that one again. My copy has a bit of surface noise and it always agitates me. Does emusic have Bruder des Schattens? That's my fave, probably.

ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah it does - i ran out of DL's though before i could get it

69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

emusic has k-vuh.

Even Cobra Verde.

It's all in the recent remaster versions, which are not always superior to previous editions, but mostly fine.

Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Hosianna Mantra is probably my favorite, though it doesn't really compare to any of the others (not rock, not electronic, less clay binding it to the ground)

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

i need an LP copy of the aguirre soundtrack, if anyone has one to spare. even a crappy bootleg! ("need")

ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic ILM thread!

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link


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