whoa that's intense!but also uh oh -- i better hurry up!!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
LL I bought Affenstunde and In Den Garten Pharoahs based on yr recommendations and I love them! So thank you. Those Spanish LP reissues are really hard to find in the US.
― sleeve, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
always glad to be of service!
i'm right about the essay inside, right? i'm pretty sure that i've read that before but i can't find it -- i think there was a scan of a magazine or something? it seemed like a lot of familiar info to me and my memory is not spectacular, so maybe it's just the same info recycled in a different format?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
Seriously, though, where can one buy these in the States? Been looking everywhere. No distros, no shops, and not even any US-based online sellers that I've been able to find.
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
i don't know that you can unless your local store ordered them from wah wah. if you're serious about buying them, i would recommend buying them from norman records in the UK. they were great and a human answered my emails!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link
Noted. It's just, you know...shipping. Brutal.
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Oh, I know! But if you want to receive the records, you have to pay to have someone carry them across the ocean.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
I just feel like some joint getting wholesale prices (as such) would be selling these for like 35 USD as opposed to 45 USD. I shouldn't really be allowing myself to afford either of those prices, so $10 goes a pretty long way. Of course, that would-be store doesn't seem to exist, so here we are. Thanks for the advice, re: Norman Gonna feel so guilty, but it's gonna feel so good finally to hear the b-side of that Yun single after all these fucking years. I've never once found a copy!
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
Yeah it's gonna sting, but unless you enjoy making phone calls that lead nowhere and general disappointment, ordering from a source that you 100% know will deliver is better. Esp if you have been waiting that long! Geez.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link
as far as Hosianna Mantra goes, there isn't even a copy on Discogs. just get it from Norman, it'll be gone son.
― sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
SOON
ha, you got all sassy for a second there
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link
Ha. There were several copies on Discogs, last week. The cheapest one, of course, didn't include the 7".
― winnebago taco, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
np: my first ever hearing of Seligpreisung (the Fichelscher interview reminded me I didn't have it)
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
I really want that one.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
It's just the digital DL from emusic, not the vinyl, to be clear. Did not expect the singing!
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
it's the only one where florian sings! i think it's a nice change of pace. total cymbal mania too iirc.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
The spv bonus track is, of course, another arrangement of florians Agnus Dei melody aka kaspar hauser ditty. I feel every reissue has one!
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
cantare cantare cantare plod plod plod plod.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of Florian's Agnus Dei tune, I want to mention "Gutes Land" off 1jaeger & 7jaeger-- after they play the Agnus Dei for a few bars, there's the stirring piano chord + cymbal crashes and then everyone makes as if to take flight but the strangest thing happens-- three different Fichelschers (hard right at low volume, center at normal volume, hard left at normal volume) stammer awkwardly for several bars, completely failing to come up with anything eloquent to say, and THEN things take off. It's always struck me as the strangest passage; it doesn't seem deliberate, more like a bad improv moment, and yet Danny overdubbed himself twice in the same awkward manner so...?
Also, I think we can all agree 1jaeger is the most hi-fi of the classic PV records, no?
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
man I need to get decent CD reissues of the rest of the first 10 records or so (I have the first two on vinyl now), any ideas as to which ones I should seek out? I note upthread that dodgy vinyl-ripped Italian CDs were mentioned, don't want those.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
I prefer the Spalax CDs to the SPV reissues in some cases, very strongly so with Letzte Tage, somewhat so with Herz aus Glas. I haven't heard the SPV Einsjaeger to compare but the Spalax sounds fantastic. SPV Bruder des Schattens sounds great, so does SPV Hohelied. SPV Nosferatu sounds a little distorted to me but I only have a few tracks of the spalax to compare. SPV Sei Still... sounds okay to me, haven't heard the Spalax but I don't think that is a very well recorded album to begin with, so. I remember the celestial harmonies CD of the Pharaohs sounding good.
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
einsjäger is my fave pv
i heard das hoheleid salamos for the first time yesterday — so gorgeous
― clouds, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
thanx Jon! xp
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
The SPV Pharaohs is a little distorted, too. The Einsjaeger sounds good, as I recall, but I haven't really put it on in a while. As for Letzte Tage, Letzte Naechte, I've never heard a release that didn't kinda sound like shit; still the "Haram Dei Ra" SPV bonus track with Florian singing was worth the price of admission, for me.
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of Florian's Agnus Dei tune, I want to mention "Gutes Land" off 1jaeger & 7jaeger-- after they play the Agnus Dei for a few bars, there's the stirring piano chord + cymbal crashes and then everyone makes as if to take flight but the strangest thing happens-- three different Fichelschers (hard right at low volume, center at normal volume, hard left at normal volume) stammer awkwardly for several bars, completely failing to come up with anything eloquent to say, and THEN things take off.
i relistened to that part with this comment in mind and i think he's trying to create a windup type feeling? like this isn't itthis isn't it
BOOM CRASH this is it
but i dunno. i love that part!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
also the LT-LN Spalax cd that i have sounds ok to me but it's also the only one i've heardif that ever gets reissued i'm going to go crazy and buy three
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link
It is truly strange and challenging to me to contextualize.
IDK like a lot of Vuh this record is about searching and questing and this passage perhaps evokes the stumbling that takes place along the way...
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
xpost
The Aguire soundtrack is really amazing. I just love how it sounds. I got a feeling its going to become one of my favorite ambient records, it just has a great tone.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link
More likely the result of trying to record a rock song with two people, one on piano and one on drums, not your usual method by any means. There are a few tracks where the piano and drums go slightly out of time or, for instance, the end of "Letzte Tage", where there's a drum fill that's out of synch...
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:25 (ten years ago) link
^^^tom d you have been neglecting your breathing exercises haven't you >:[
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
So after her career with Popol Vuh, Djong Yun seems to have ended up in North Korea, or at least she was there eight years ago. (Brief thread on her father Isang Yun here.) Has she ever been interviewed about her life? I'm really curious – starting with how someone who could sing like that could just stop.
― with hidden noise, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
Been a huge PV fan for years but only just discovered the Gila connection this week. Mind-boggling.
― Call the Cops, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
Wow. I knew none of those things, re: Yun. Thanks for posting that interview.
― winnebago taco, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
her father is isang yun? whoa!
― clouds, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
wow, that's intriguingi wonder what she does all day?! she lives in pyongyang?!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
Reissues are in at Fuestron, btw. Or they were, a few days ago.
― winnebago taco, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
^^^ was just about to post this when i saw the update.fusetron v reliable ime.
― ian, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
i missed out on the reissues at Wall of Sound, got there a few days too late :(
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
sorry, that was me!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
all this djong yun stuff is news to me - wow!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
god help me I just bought three more of those reissues from Fusetron
thanks, I think.
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 November 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
prediction: you won't regret it
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 November 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
yeah, popol vuh are pretty much The Best Band Ever, so there is no worry. you will be having a great time.
― ian, Thursday, 21 November 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link
I know, huh? Somehow I missed this band amidst all my years of exploring exactly this kinda sound, I always just thought of them as a Herzog soundtrack band. Never realized all the connections with ADII etc. By the way thanks to Tom D (I think, yeah?) for his excellent overview at the beginning of the thread.
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link
― ian, Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:00 PM
having a great time with side 1 of Hosianna Mantra right now, god damn
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
how to live
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
i mail-ordered the hosianna mantra reissue but it hasn't arrived here yet. gorgeous album though.
― lime pickle (get bent), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
I keep wanting to buy the Herzog box but find myself unable to pull the trigger. I love Aguirre - all time top ten - but I already own it on CD. The only other Popol Vuh I listen to a lot is Hosianna Mantra, if that gives you an idea of what version of Florian's wild circus I most enjoy. I don't know the other four soundtracks included in the box and I understand that one of them - Nosferatu, maybe? - features very little Popol Vuh. I also hear the book is not really any great shakes. Anyway, should I buy this?
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 5 December 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link