i think my favorite thing about empire burlesque is that photo
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
i never seek it out but i always have time for 'rainy day women' (i am a little horrified that that's what ties 'like a rolling stone' for highest charting dylan single). at this point i think i may have more time for 'she's always a woman' than 'just like a woman'.
― balls, Monday, 6 May 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link
"just like a woman" is kind of really gross.
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Monday, 6 May 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link
i wish it didn't share an album with "visions of johanna", the greatest song of the 60s.
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Monday, 6 May 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
fave on that lp is stuck inside of memphis...close 2nd i want you
btw y'all know that next bootleg series will cover self-p/new morning sessions right? or have we covered this already?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 05:07 (ten years ago) link
er stuck inside of MOBILE
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 05:08 (ten years ago) link
just like a woman is heavy dumb. leopard-skin pill-box hat is GREAT, the part where the doctor steals his girl is better than when it happens to leonard cohen.
tell tale signs has all kinds of good stuff on it including the definitive version of "someday baby" from modern times.
i like "something's burning baby" too but it's definitely on the hokier end of the dylan apocalypse spectrum. (my favorite pious dylan dystopia is "foot of pride". they take all this money from sin. build BIIIIIIIIIIG universities to study in. sing amazing grace ALL the way to the swiss banks.)
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 6 May 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link
he's singing about hisself from 5 years earlier maybe
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link
I like to think that Bob is referring the Monty Python foot in "Foot of Pride".
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 May 2013 05:31 (ten years ago) link
what makes SBB hokey is the synth horn
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 11:03 (ten years ago) link
SOMETHING'S THE MATTER BABY THERE'S SMOKE IN YOUR HAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR.
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
do u think it's about America
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
ignore that question
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
sure – if you're Bono
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
ONE HUNDRED
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
dylan albums without filler: highway 61, john wesley harding, uhhh live '66.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 6 May 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
Nashville Skylines pretty solid.
― i have opinions about empire burlesque (Treeship), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
nashville skyline is kind of all filler. in a good way.
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
incidentally I just googled "who is the girl on the back of empire burlesque" and found this thread:http://www.expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=68556
so many completely ridiculous guesses! A lot of people are near blind, apparently.
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
lol at that being emmylou harris!
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
that's not even the worst guess!
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
― tylerw, Monday, May 6, 2013 2:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i see what you're getting at but no. "i threw it all away" is nobody's idea of filler. it's one of his very best songs IMO.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link
but the whole album can be read as a "tribute" to those country music LPs of the era (say, by roger miller) that are like 26 minutes long and include a few instruments and "trad arr." tunes to save money on royalties. just completely unpretentious but (at their best) still committed to quality.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLwhDb7J7TY
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
Yep. New Morning is where tries to transcend that style.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
also you have to wonder if the back cover of a very mundane even glum looking nashville cityscape is bob being a little tongue in cheek
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2629/4013250338_30c76ed815_z.jpg
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
also the playing on this record
bonerville, population: me
http://www.bobdylan.com/us/node/31036
― adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
:D
― Treeship, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
wait so the self-portrait reissue is only gonna be in the deeeluxe version?
― j., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
yup. :(
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link
No
http://www.amazon.com/Self-Portrait-1969-1971-Bootleg-Series/dp/B00DW5IM9Q/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1373992643&sr=8-2
― waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
The Standard Version contains 35 tracks on 2 CD's, and soft cover perfect bound bookletThe Deluxe Version contains 4 CD s and two hardcover books housed in a hardcover slip caseBook # 1 contains 4 CD's and liner notes Book # 2 contains the photos from John Cohen and Al Clayton. The 2 bonus CD's will contain the newly remastered version of Self Portrait and the complete 17 song recording of Dylan & The Band performing live at the Isle Of Wight in 1969The vinyl version contains 35 tracks on 3 LPs (and 2 CDs) plus a 12" x 12" booklet that includes the liner notes written by Greil Marcus, the essay from Michael Simmons, and the photographs from John Cohen and Al Clayton, and pictures of the original tape boxes and cue sheets.
― waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
It would be great if Greil Marcus's liner notes were just, "what is this shit?".Or has he come around?
― brio, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
"Self Portrait" was the first (and for a long time only) Dylan record I heard. My dad had a copy of it and as a 12 yr old just getting into music it was a real "huh" record for me. Took me a long to figure out that wasn't yr normal Dylan record.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
how much is the deluxe going to be?
― adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
at the mo, it's $125 on amazon to the ~20 for the other : (
― j., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
damn bob that's a cold shot
― adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
bummer about the pricing but i'm really excited that this music is seeing release, especially the isle of wight stuff. i love this period.
tons of good discussion upthread. it sucks that greil marcus' review was reduced to "what is this shit" because it's actually a really long and thoughtful review, even if i disagree with some of his assessments.
― marcos, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
http://expectingrain.com/dok/div/greilmarcusselfportrait.html
― waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
that is a wonderful review, one of his best ever imo -- love how all over the place it is.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
The four questions: The four sons gazed at the painting on the museum wall. "It's a painting," said the first son. "It's art," said the second son. "It's a frame," said the third son, and he said it rather coyly. The fourth son was usually considered somewhat stupid, but he at least figured out why they'd come all the way from home to look at the thing in the first place. "It's a signature," he said.
― waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/bob-dylans-lost-1970-gem-pretty-saro-premiere-20130807
lovin this
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
This is damn great!
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
yeah that sounds awesome. kinda can't believe that they're not including the new morning version of "tomorrow is a long time" though. that one is great! (can't find it on youtube tho).
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
#bootlegnerdgripe
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
oh man these outtakes. "these hands" sounds like an early slow train coming demo
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
FYI: the super box is on sale at Popmarket for $82.99, Vinyl for $52.99 for next 20-odd hours. Still too expensive but tempting.
http://www.popmarket.com/details/28811265?feature_id=28808750
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 August 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link
regardless of the Bootleg/Expanded Reissue version, this is a p funny record. Some great stuff, some terrible stuff, some goofy stuff. The two attempts at Little Sadie are both bad, The Boxer is so totally wtf, and the Isle of Wight performances are a mess. But Early Mornin' Rain is awesome! And a bunch of it is v pretty. It's strange that he does *all* his voices here, including the Nashville Skyline voice on "Let It Be Me". Such a hodge-podge, kind of his White Album except there's a bunch of shitty covers and not nearly enough decent song material.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link
yeah self portrait itself is entertaining. the isle of wight stuff on there the most convincing argument that dylan was self-sabotaging — that "like a rolling stone" is the worst performance from the show. as a whole, it's a great set.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link