bob dylan - self portrait

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"what is this shit?" - greil marcus

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

currently on constant rotation: "all the tired horses" and "the boxer"

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

"Copper Kettle" is one of my all-time fave Dylan tracks. Great singing throughout.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

It's an anxious object. Impossible (?) to divine Bob's intentions here, and his answers to q's about it have been contradictory. The lazy drawl and scaling back of expectations he introduced with John Wesley Harding (esp the last two tracks) reaches its apogee here and--is it a sight to behold? Not to behold? The pictures inside the gatefold are nice.

Are anxious objects of value in themselves?

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Much of it is somewhere between outtake and pisstake: bum notes, going out of key, voice cracking. Vocal barely in synch with backing track. I wonder what the studio guys thought -- or maybe there are more perfect takes rotting in Columbia vaults?

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Some background.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the record. But it's easy to say that after buying it in the early nineties for a buck. I imagine those who anted up upon its initial release were a bit perturbed.

I mean how can you not love the piss-take on "Like A Rolling Stone"? Self-portrait!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

That's not a piss-take: it's from the notoriously bad Isle of Wight performance.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Well I read it as one. So it is one. So nyah.

I mean why in the heck put it on the record then?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

My understanding of piss-take is that it's a deliberate goof. Well whatever it is, it's bad. My take is that Dylan at this point was anti-careerist (see, he stopped playing live among other things). What interests me most is that something as intermittently beautiful as Nashville Skyline (which derives much of its charm from its apparenly offhandedness) can lead up to this, which many people took to be a gesture of contempt for his audience.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Forgot that one in the "ugliest cover ever" thread...

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Dylan is nothing if not deliberate, even though his attention span is notoriously short. I always read SP as a self-conscious shedding an audience though beyond that, perhaps one could infer that Dylan is also attempting to shed the burden of the identity that he had been shouldered with. It’s like wiping the slate clean with a record so uncomfortably bad across every aspect, from the production through to the vocal delivery, like Dylan was permitting himself the opportunity to start again, even if it was merely in his own mind. Perhaps the title of Dylan’s subsequent record is one of his most symbolic.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 10:15 (sixteen years ago) link

'Dylan' (the OUTTAKES from 'SP') is even better!!!

dave q, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha even I haven't heard that.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The first Dylan record I ever owned. (Though my parents had Bringing It All Back Home for some reason. They never listened to it, they never listened to anything.) I was really into two-record sets back then, they seemed automatically cooler. For years, "All the Tired Horses" was my favorite Dylan song.

A friend of mine sent me the CD last year. I liked the couldn't-give-a-shit sound of it at first, it's so sloppy and his voice is so weird. But I fell asleep halfway through. There are some really weak songs on it. The three Fritz and Andrew mentioned are outstanding, though.

Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I tend to think that the album may have been partially a willfull gesture of contempt or some kind of joke, but it mostly just a profound expression of disinterest. Apparently Dylan trusted the studio guys to overdub backing tracks on preexisting vocals in a few cases, and in other cases he was just messing around and learning about the capabilities of the studio and the session players. And didn't bother to get a perfect (or even suitable) take. If you look at how prolific (and perfectionist) Dylan was in the mid-'60s, how many demands were being made on him and how much he was asking of himelf, this kind of meltdown is understandable.

Self Portrait is v. interesting in relation to New Morning, which might be read as a response to the "singer-songwriter" idea which was so ballyhooed at the time and which Dylan himself helped to foster. I mean, New Morning can be understood both as an advance (in the level of seriousness and engagement) and a retreat (from the genre-based stylings of the last two records)--a more committed record and ... possibly ... a "sop" to the audience? I dunno. I rather like the record, though not as much as Planet Waves.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

this LP does two things for me consistently. reminds me of how close the relationship between lightfoot and dylan is...also, that I need to listen to "It Hurts Me Too" much more often

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steve k (stevek10), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

So what if his shit stinks.

I've always enjoyed Self Portrait for its relaxed, non-confrontational approach. It's definitely in my (Dylan) top 10.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I think we may be seeing a real revision(ism) here!

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I mean I basically never could see what the hubbub was about. I agree w/ christoff's take (not sure i'd put it top 10 tho). It's just another side of bob dylan (har har).

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

After reading a million interviews with Dylan, I honestly believe that he never sat back and formulated concepts for his record. I don't think they're reactions to anything. I think all his stories about "I made that record so people would stop listening to me", etc. are a crock -- stuff he made up later to explain poor albums. I read an interview w/ him where he said he recorded his albums because somebody at Columbia called him and said, "When is the next record coming?" Sometimes he had good songs laying around (maybe most of the time), sometimes not, I really think that's as deep as it goes.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah and why does everybody (by which i mean greil marcus) piss themselves in glee over the raggedness of basement tapes and get all bummed out by the raggedness of selfportrait?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

uh, because the raggedness works well on one and not on the other, perhaps?

s woods, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I think the arrangements on Basement Tapes exhibit a restlessness, and the positive pressures that talented musicians exert on each other. Whereas much of Self-Portrait seems evidently rushed, indifferent to me.

I don't think the story is as prosaic as Mark asserts. Self-Portrait stands as something of an abberation in his career. There's also the fact of its title and that it's a double record. I think contempt for the record company breathing down his neck, and probably just some free-floating perversity, enters into it.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah obv., scott, but it's not that different a raggedness in spirit. and greil in particular is mellifluous and purple in his prose about the basement tapes being the whole history of american folk tradition in one sitting, etc. and selfportrait being a gob in the eye

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I agree that Greil is hyberbolic in both directions. But I think the goals of the sessions were different. Dylan didn't even have much intention of releasing the basement material, whereas by most reckonings many of the sessions for Self-Portrait were done by a distinterested Dylan to satisfy record company concerns that he wasn't in the studio enough.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not that different a raggedness "in spirit," but neither is the impromptu jam session taking place in your neighbourhood blues bar right now, and so what? Should he like both records because they attempt to do the same thing? (Which they don't anyway--I agree with Amateurist's second last post completely--but even if so...)

s woods, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm just saying its funny that he (& generally accepted rock-lore) reserve highest praise and most passionate despair for two records that share a tossed-off, casual, jokey, anti-cool vibe not seen in a lot of dylan's other work.

just a point about the thin line between love & hate and all that. no need to get mad.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

...lest we reference Metal Machine Music?

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

no thread's complete without at least one MMM reference.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a terrible record by any standard, including terrible records. I can't abide Bob Dylan after 1967, at all. Did he make "SP" in Nashville? Weren't he and the Moby Grape on Columbia together at that point? He should've gotten them to back him up, that would've been fun at least.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Fritz, didn't mean to lose ma cool--sorry.

s woods, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

no no i was just spouting off

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't abide Bob Dylan after 1967, at all.

That pains my heart.

He did cut most of Self Portrait in Nashville--but he cut much of Blonde on Blonde there as well.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Dylan session information

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Thx for session info.

I'm conflicted about BD. I know he's a great songwriter--really I do--and when someone plays me his '70s/'80s stuff or even his last few things, I go, oh yeah, hmm, I almost like it, but then I just get dragged by the backing. I just like all the things that everyone else likes pre-motorcycle wreck, and I do like the basement tapes an awful lot. It's one of those things, I have a few artists I know I should like more I guess, like Van Morrison, but there's something so boring about them, to me...

Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Do you like country music?

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I love country music.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmm, I'm trying to suss out what you don't like about his late 60s/early 70s recordings (I would agree with you about much of the things that came after).

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, I do like country music. I grew up in that neck of the woods, you know, Nashville, Chattanooga, and Atlanta (3 places I spent my formative years). I guess I can't get past the fact that those recordings are so low-energy, first of all. Dylan is like Elvis Costello, when the backing is energized it works great, but when he's just another guy with words and some backup musicians, it just doesn't grab me. The Nashville guys are great for sure. But that style seems to have inhibited Dylan. I mean I heard "Stuck Outside of Mobile" the other day and it's so boring. And the words aren't really that good, he's trying so hard to be...gnomic...it isn't something I choose to listen to, I simply don't find Dylan's words all that entertaining, he's pretentious. I do like basement tapes because he really is gnomic, and the Band is so good. "Odds and Ends." He sounds more like he's having a good time, and that's so important. "Self-Portrait" is just inept, I cannot be convinced he had some overriding aesthetic to work through there. Again, he's such a strong songwriter that for ex. Hendrix doing "Watchtower," that's amazing. I guess what I'm groping toward here is the fact that they're really simple songs, ridiculously simple in fact, and what they need is more inflection, somebody to come along and not be so reverent toward them; he doesn't do enough with them in my opinion.

Plus he's like the Beatles--I'm sick of people telling me he's great. To me Faron Young or Booker T. and the MGs are great, I don't really care one way or the other about Bob Dylan. That's just me--as I say, I recognize his achievement.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I largely agree w/r/t "Stuck inside of Mobile...." The backing seems tentative to me, uncommitted (hmmm, and they had more than 20 takes before they got the master, I wonder if that means anything), like a bunch of Nashville sessioneers trying to "rollick" but only getting to "jaunty." Still the "(weird suspension of the melody) oh . . . mama ... can it REALly be the END . . . (cue hook) to be STUCK inSIDE of MObile with the MEMphis BLUES aGAIN" part is brilliant.

I like Nashville Skyline because it seems, musically at least, like a real engagement with country music. The arrangements are taut and well-thought-out, though of course the overall affect is fairly lazy.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, "Mobile" seemed like a "gas" at the time...those crazed words and that rather banal, third-hand music...and the first time anyone heard it back in '66, same...but now...it could've been so much better, that suspension you're talking about (the song is kinda derived from "I Will Turn Your Money Green") could've been so much more mysterioso.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I brought this record to work so undoubtedly by tomorrow I will have manifold revelations. My first ones: it's uneven. His singing on "Days of '49" and "In Search of Little Sadie" is unforgivably bad. "Let It Be Me" is the crux of the record: not exactly good, but a strangely affecting goof. "Minstrel Boy" is a mess.

Best suspension ever in a pop song: The Bailey Brothers' "Rattlesnake Daddy." You'll think your record is skipping!

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
well, fuck me. i like it.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Twenty takes of "Stuck Inside" and he still flubs that line about building a fire on Main Street, eh?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 08:42 (fourteen years ago) link

And he didn't take another shot at "She's Your Lover Now" when the band blew the song nearly seven minutes in?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I like this. And the "Dylan" album. Hah!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 3 March 2005 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link

That demo on the Bootleg albums shows that "She's Your Lover Now" would have been the best thing he ever did if only he had bothered to do another take.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 3 March 2005 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

he refers to this in Chronicle Vol 1 as (paraphrasing) "I threw everything at the wall and if it stuck, I put it on the record. Everything else ended up on [Dylan]. He pretty much sums it up as a big fuck you to having Counter-Culture Deity foisted upon him. Leave me alone, I'm a family man, etc. His recount of this period I found really funny (disguises and abnormal behavior in public places, of course he could be bullshittin')
But yeah, I really like this record. I'm still to chicken to plunk down any change for Dylan, though.

Will(iam), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Heck, I found a near perfect copy of "Dylan" for £2. If it had not had the 'history', all the tracks would have appeared on the 'bootleg' vol 1-3 (well, any of the tracks could have).

1 track is offairly rough sound quality, the rest are Dylan of less intensity, but nothing is 'really bad' to my ears.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I like to think that Bob is referring the Monty Python foot in "Foot of Pride".

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 May 2013 05:31 (six years ago) link

what makes SBB hokey is the synth horn

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 11:03 (six years ago) link

SOMETHING'S THE MATTER BABY THERE'S SMOKE IN YOUR HAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR.

do u think it's about America

ignore that question

do u think it's about America

sure – if you're Bono

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:35 (six years ago) link

ONE HUNDRED

dylan albums without filler: highway 61, john wesley harding, uhhh live '66.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 6 May 2013 18:15 (six years ago) link

Nashville Skylines pretty solid.

i have opinions about empire burlesque (Treeship), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:30 (six years ago) link

nashville skyline is kind of all filler. in a good way.

tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 19:38 (six years ago) link

incidentally I just googled "who is the girl on the back of empire burlesque" and found this thread:
http://www.expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=68556

so many completely ridiculous guesses! A lot of people are near blind, apparently.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:42 (six years ago) link

lol at that being emmylou harris!

tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 19:44 (six years ago) link

that's not even the worst guess!

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:46 (six years ago) link

nashville skyline is kind of all filler. in a good way.

― tylerw, Monday, May 6, 2013 2:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i see what you're getting at but no. "i threw it all away" is nobody's idea of filler. it's one of his very best songs IMO.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:28 (six years ago) link

but the whole album can be read as a "tribute" to those country music LPs of the era (say, by roger miller) that are like 26 minutes long and include a few instruments and "trad arr." tunes to save money on royalties. just completely unpretentious but (at their best) still committed to quality.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:29 (six years ago) link

Yep. New Morning is where tries to transcend that style.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:30 (six years ago) link

also you have to wonder if the back cover of a very mundane even glum looking nashville cityscape is bob being a little tongue in cheek

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2629/4013250338_30c76ed815_z.jpg

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:33 (six years ago) link

also the playing on this record

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:33 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

bonerville, population: me

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/node/31036

adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:21 (six years ago) link

:D

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:23 (six years ago) link

wait so the self-portrait reissue is only gonna be in the deeeluxe version?

j., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:29 (six years ago) link

yup. :(

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:30 (six years ago) link

The Standard Version contains 35 tracks on 2 CD's, and soft cover perfect bound booklet
The Deluxe Version contains 4 CD s and two hardcover books housed in a hardcover slip case
Book # 1 contains 4 CD's and liner notes
Book # 2 contains the photos from John Cohen and Al Clayton.
The 2 bonus CD's will contain the newly remastered version of Self Portrait and the complete 17 song recording of Dylan & The Band performing live at the Isle Of Wight in 1969
The vinyl version contains 35 tracks on 3 LPs (and 2 CDs) plus a 12" x 12" booklet that includes the liner notes written by Greil Marcus, the essay from Michael Simmons, and the photographs from John Cohen and Al Clayton, and pictures of the original tape boxes and cue sheets.

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:38 (six years ago) link

It would be great if Greil Marcus's liner notes were just, "what is this shit?".
Or has he come around?

brio, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:01 (six years ago) link

"Self Portrait" was the first (and for a long time only) Dylan record I heard. My dad had a copy of it and as a 12 yr old just getting into music it was a real "huh" record for me. Took me a long to figure out that wasn't yr normal Dylan record.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:10 (six years ago) link

how much is the deluxe going to be?

adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:11 (six years ago) link

at the mo, it's $125 on amazon to the ~20 for the other : (

j., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:21 (six years ago) link

damn bob that's a cold shot

adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:29 (six years ago) link

bummer about the pricing but i'm really excited that this music is seeing release, especially the isle of wight stuff. i love this period.

tons of good discussion upthread. it sucks that greil marcus' review was reduced to "what is this shit" because it's actually a really long and thoughtful review, even if i disagree with some of his assessments.

marcos, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:52 (six years ago) link

http://expectingrain.com/dok/div/greilmarcusselfportrait.html

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:54 (six years ago) link

that is a wonderful review, one of his best ever imo -- love how all over the place it is.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:17 (six years ago) link

The four questions: The four sons gazed at the painting on the museum wall. "It's a painting," said the first son. "It's art," said the second son. "It's a frame," said the third son, and he said it rather coyly. The fourth son was usually considered somewhat stupid, but he at least figured out why they'd come all the way from home to look at the thing in the first place. "It's a signature," he said.

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:26 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This is damn great!

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:22 (five years ago) link

yeah that sounds awesome.
kinda can't believe that they're not including the new morning version of "tomorrow is a long time" though. that one is great! (can't find it on youtube tho).

tylerw, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:27 (five years ago) link

#bootlegnerdgripe

tylerw, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:30 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

oh man these outtakes. "these hands" sounds like an early slow train coming demo

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:41 (five years ago) link

FYI: the super box is on sale at Popmarket for $82.99, Vinyl for $52.99 for next 20-odd hours. Still too expensive but tempting.

http://www.popmarket.com/details/28811265?feature_id=28808750

EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 August 2013 17:45 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

regardless of the Bootleg/Expanded Reissue version, this is a p funny record. Some great stuff, some terrible stuff, some goofy stuff. The two attempts at Little Sadie are both bad, The Boxer is so totally wtf, and the Isle of Wight performances are a mess. But Early Mornin' Rain is awesome! And a bunch of it is v pretty. It's strange that he does *all* his voices here, including the Nashville Skyline voice on "Let It Be Me". Such a hodge-podge, kind of his White Album except there's a bunch of shitty covers and not nearly enough decent song material.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:44 (one year ago) link

yeah self portrait itself is entertaining.
the isle of wight stuff on there the most convincing argument that dylan was self-sabotaging — that "like a rolling stone" is the worst performance from the show. as a whole, it's a great set.

tylerw, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:46 (one year ago) link

"Let It Be Me" is as good as anything else on Nashville Skyline and New Morning

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:56 (one year ago) link

I still don't get what's so unusual about The Boxer. Is it the fact that he's covering it at all? It sounds like bob Dylan covering The Boxer to me

brimstead, Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:42 (one year ago) link

I vastly overrate this album, totally love it

brimstead, Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:43 (one year ago) link

Re: the Boxer - it's the shitty overdubbed/doubled vocals

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 September 2017 00:10 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

a side effect of getting really into self portrait is "days of '49" is stuck in my head forever

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 July 2019 12:33 (two weeks ago) link

RIP Poker Bill

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 July 2019 16:46 (two weeks ago) link

also another self portrait is def the best bootleg series installment i've heard

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 July 2019 16:48 (two weeks ago) link

yeah, it really makes a strong case for that era

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 July 2019 16:50 (two weeks ago) link


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